No, the first hour is still shit, it just looks good when compared to the second half. >Still has the same teacher for some reason >Presents his work at a damn science fair >Things catchphrase is given dark implications >Forced relationships And so on.
>>78756455 Sure. >>78758813 >Things catchphrase is given dark implications From now on, every time the Thing says "It's clobbering time", he's hallucinating KO-ing brother Grimm >>78760401 Given Doom's dead.
You know what would have made more sense for Reed? Maybe, I dont know, lie about what his invention was so he could actually attract investors and then reveal what it really was? Because you'd think he'd be smart enough to realize people arent going to buy the inter-dimensional transport sales pitch and look at you like youre crazy. But then again nothing in this film is well thought out so
>>78756455 Here's the funny thing. After the controversy of Wolverine, Fox wanted to prove that it was author-friendly. They were gonna let Trank do whatever he wanted because they had faith in him due to Chronicle. However, once they began hearing reports of Trank being hard to work with on set, and once they realized that the movie wasn't what they expected, THEN they began to meddle, but at that point there was nothing that could be done to salvage this piece of crap. Ironically, if they had meddled from the begining and gotten rid of Trank sooner it might have ended up better.
>>78761240 He behaved terribly on set, he had uncontrollable substance abuse problems and he bit the hand that fees. Triptych of career death. On its own, any one of those (except possibly the last depending on how high it went) is salvageable.
Why did the US government think that they spent millions and "you delivered us nothing"? They proved that teleportation to another universe works, that's a HUGE breakthrough. And as for practical aplications, we now have a way of safely disposing of toxic nuclear waste
>>78761384 I hate nignogs as much as the next guy, but as long as the actor is decent, fuck it he can be whatever color he wants. Hell, I love James Bond, and if Idris Elba played the next one I'd see that shit in a second. Elba's got chops.
The thing that gets to me is when the actor or director get all high and mighty saying "OH you don't like this traditionally white character who's now black? Racist, why you gotta hate black people, huh?" Thankfully after Fantastic 3 & 3/5s and black Annie bombing and Fem Busters being pretty much DOA, I think the "changing characters for the sake of progressive-ness" craze is on its deathbed.
>>78758813 This... So much of this. Also the psudo-science they are showing with the shit explanation attached to it. Stop acting like man of science for gods sake. Even peter parker is smarter than this punchable version of reed.
>>78758813 Let's not forget the fact that they got their powers because they got drunk one night and decided to go to another dimension.
I mean holy shit, that's really it. They bitched that they were going to hire professional astronauts to go to this unexplored dimension instead of some barely 20 year old scientists, and then they got wasted and decided they'd go behind everyone's backs and go anyway.
>>78761284 The last one would really depend on how to recover from that, would Trank go on and do smaller projects and work his way back up again, or is he going to torpedo his chances like he did on Fantastic Four?
Even before he made that tweet denouncing Fantastic Four he wasn't likely to be working for Fox, Sony, or Disney any time soon.
>>78761104 Anon, this just wasn't the case. Fox started meddling months before filming began. And when I say 'meddling' I mean 'totally undermining Trank and his vision for the film - the vision that they'd previously enthusiastically approved'.
The cast for the film was announced in mid-February 2014. There was an immediate fan backlash against some of the casting choices - mainly Michael B Jordan but people also seemed very unhappy that the younger cast wasn't the version of the FF that they wanted to see. Within weeks - while Trank's version of the film was in preproduction - it was reported that Fox was quietly talking to other directors, asking if they would be prepared to step in at the last minute, ditch the existing script and make a more traditional FF movie. None of the directors Fox approached were interested - the revised filming deadline was very tight and they all seemed to feel it was a crappy way to treat Trank - so when word got out that Fox was looking to dump Trank, the studio denied the story. They didn't have anyone to take over, so they had to carry on with Trank's version or risk losing the FF rights. What they did instead was cut the film's budget by 20% a month before filming was due to start, meaning that Trank had to conduct an eleventh hour rewrite and cut a bunch of expensive action sequences. Trank knew before the first day of filming that the studio was against him and that he wasn't going to get to make the film that he'd signed on to direct, which was probably a major cause of his alleged poor behaviour on set (I say 'alleged' because I don't know how many of the 'Trank meltdown' stories were true and how many were just Fox sources getting a headstart in ensuring that Trank took the blame when the film inevitably bombed).
Fox basically lost their faith in Trank's vision when the casting backlash occurred. When they couldn't get anyone to replace him quickly they decided to cut their losses and cut their expenditure as much as possible (while still putting out a film, which would prevent the FF property reverting to Marvel). Once they lost confidence in Trank they should have released him from his contract - the fact that they didn't and we got a shitty movie as a result is entirely Fox's fault.
>>78774407 Dude, think about it, turning the characters into women turned away most of their potential audience and that fucking shameless children's hospital PR stunt turned away the rest. That movie lost its audience before the fucking poster was even revealed.
Maybe I'm wrong, who knows, but anyone with the slightest bit of common sense can see this movie was a baaaaaad idea.
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