I couldn't stand STAS as a kid. The stories were boring, even the art style looked horrendous to me, even though I liked Batman just fine. I don't know what it was, there's something very very different that used to put me off.
>>78707208 I felt the same way for a long time, but as i get older, i like STAS more. BTAS had better peaks (Amost Got Im is my favorite) but they really found their footing with Supes, and if you actually watch the series from start to finish, there's a lot more world building than Batman, ie: none at all.
>>78706969 dey bofe gud. i've been rewatching both lately. Trying to stick to chronological release but I accidentally got a bit ahead. I know Joker's Millions comes right after World's Finest, so you've gotta watch STAS to that point before TNBAing any further
>>78707749 They made some back in the day, they were all pretty crummy despite (or maybe because of) using the original actors (like maybe that was their whole budget) >>78706969 My sister certainly thought so. When we'd watch batman-superman-adventures we'd change the channel if it was a batman, because she was bored.. it was a compromise so we could peaceably share the tv
Honestly the only episodes of STAS I remember are ones with Darkseid, and the Livewire episode, yet I know I always tuned in for it. BTAS, on the other hand, I remember the majority of episodes vividly. I think BTAS was more gripping.
>>78707208 I couldn't either the only episode that's ever stood out to me was the one where Supes is taken over by darkseid (I think) and Kara has to fight him, but As I get older I'm not even sure that episode actually happened
>>78706969 It was good, but it really not as great as great as Batman. Especially the first two seasons. Maybe because so much time has passed since its first aired, but people severely underestimate the effect BTAS had on the animation television landscape. It was dark, it was Art Deco. Without BTAS you don't get to Gargoyles, you don't get to Justice League. If you're talking just pure influence STAS doesn't come anywhere close to BTAS.
I like superman better as a character, I enjoyed STAS more than BTAS as a whole, but as much as I prefer Supes, Batman has better villains, which are gonna get more of the spotlight in an episodic medium. So as much as I like STAS I can't say it's better.
ITT: Superfags attacking batman once again because they feel insecure over the fact that literally no one in the world likes their oc mary sue superpowered alien that will never have Batman's fame and attention
>>78708056 one of my favorite scenes was the last scene from the invisible man episode in BTAS. When the kid is talking to him from her window and telling him whats going on. Its cute and kinda deep. especially after you see him sitting on the roof of the house silently walking away, dark protector of Gotham and all that.
Everyone remembers it for episodes like HEart of Ice, Growing Pains and Mad Love, but no one seems to remember the bevy of I've Got Batman In My Basement, Cat Scratch Fever and The Terrible Trio we had to wade through.
On the whole STAS doesn't have episodes that really stand out as amazing like BTAS, but it also doesn't have nearly as many episodes that are nigh unwatchable.
>>78715971 I think on /co/ actually most people do tend to remember the down parts, to the point where maybe they overstate things. BTAS is certainly still a good show, but damn. There were a lot of garbage episodes. Pretty much every episode featuring a non-comic and/or animal-based villain needs to be outright skipped.
That's another thing: I feel like Superman had a lot more pathos as a character in his series for all the allegations that Batman is more "human" or "relatable". In BTAS, Batman often felt a little flat and one-dimension whereas everyone else had pathos and depth for him. In STAS, perhaps because of the overarching plot, you see a lot more of Superman's emotional highs and lows and get the sense that he's a much more tragic and complex character at times, especially when he fails to save Dan Turpin.
In general it feels like they took more risks with Superman in certain areas.
>>78716744 I lost my shit when Darkseid first appeared then when the big arc happened. Was a kid, no idea who Darkseid was before then... but he was such a powerful threat that I remember being in awe.
>>78716895 StaS is the best Superman in the DCAU. he was pretty shit in Justice league and JLU. though both him and batman weren't that great there. batman went full batgod and Superman was always fucking angry and whiny. everyone else was fine, but mostly because they had no previous show to base them on.
same for some of the criminals, like Bizzarro, who was more 3 dimensional in StaS, but is a throwaway villain in JL.
>>78717003 >>78717019 Watching it now, Supes' gallery doesn't have nearly the kind of ubiquity of Batman's or the camaraderie of Flash's but they each stand as their own entities. Mxyzptlk was great too.
>>78717806 You'll almost never see Superman's enemies team up the way Batman's and Flash's do (there are a couple handfuls of stories, but they're few and far between and always considered a big deal when it actually happens), but that's not necessarily a flaw when they're so varied and strong as standalone antagonists.
I agree with OP, but like most people here I think its because BTAS was first. It took them a while to find their feet and to refine their animation and develop the show.
By the time STAS came around they were experienced and could take all the tips and tricks they learnt from BTAS and apply them to STAS. Later, they took the combined skill and experience from STAS and created Justice League, which is simply amazing.
Its got naught to do with the characters and everything to do with the simple fact that Dini and co got better over time. Watch the first episode of BTAS and compare it to the last, you can see the development.
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