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Or /coc/ thread if that's what you look for in the catalog.

Wiki:
http://the-conservatory.wikia.com/wiki/The_/co/nservatory_Wiki

Doc:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1b_kW_QkFSAeCjGVP51kVG6J10gR8YLStcNpzPh-ARC0/edit

Last weekend's thread:
http://desustorage.org/co/thread/78445531/
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Oh, well this is a curios feeling. It's been a while since someone beat me to it.

But anyway

Last weekend's thread:

-More holiday pics were drawn
-GG's A-Z continued to have more progress
-Space logs, and further alien discussion with ray guns that shoot swords
-BreastQuest's story outline continues to be discussed
-Lucador lawyer superhero
>Traiga la ley al ring de lucha libre! Bring the law to the ring at the offices of Los Hermanos Lucha! Is someone suing you for saving their life? Bringing you to court for damages on the shop you kept from getting knocked down? Let us piledrive these cases into submission!
-CO & Friends Insurance and the role they play in the setting
-Thieves' Guild rehash discussion
-Animals genetically uplifted to be used as super soldiers?
-Space lizards: the differences between the dystopia far future planet and the version seemingly tweaked to be accessible to the general /co/verse setting
-Nora Elise, the fluffy moth snow fairy, now has a name.
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The most recent WIP of GG's A-Z.
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Spent the New Years putting an ancient back to sleep.
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>>78606070
How it feels to chew five gum.jpg
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>>78606536
With a bedtime story, a lullaby, or a sedative?
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>>78607117
A lullaby.
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>>78607391
How good is Alpha at singing?
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>>78607840
He can sing considerably well. He can make the run or stumble, he can make the final block; and he can make every tackle, at the sound of the whistle, he can make all the stadiums rock. He can make tonight forever, or he can make it disappear by the dawn; and he can make you every promise that has ever been made, and he can make all your demons be gone.
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>>78606352
To answer the question from last time, the snow fae mostly live in the Otherworld. Their biggest city is tentatively called Northwall, a city built into the side of a glacier, which contains a sort of "cold storage" for things the fae deem worth imprisoning in ice. Sort of fae /co/ntainment.

They do also have several villages in impassably snowy areas of the real world, whose duties include snowing things in at (in)convenient times. They're often in areas with very dangerous weather so snow fae set paths of dreamstone beacons so that anyone with magical sense can find their way to their villages no matter how thick the blizzard might be.

Maybe.
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>>78609125
A cold storage... I bet they have one of those elder gods frozen in there.
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>>78609707
You bet your bippy they do!
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>>78609896
I expect there to be a song/legend sung by the selkies about how they pulled that off.

And some local legends about a giant blue woman that has visited every Nisse village at some point or another and drained them of all alcohol.
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Girls on adventures
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>>78609896
North or south pole cold storage?

Feels like something you'd say is north pole, but it would actually be south pole.

The south pole has some really strange ways of freezing things.
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2lewd4/co/

http://the-collection.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=29107
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>>78610287
Skathi likes to pay them a visit from time to time. Sometimes it's nice to hang around with other blue folks, even if they're tiny! I have a doodle around here somewhere to that effect but I can't find it.

>>78612100
Middle pole. The icy arctic of the inner, other world!
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>>78612305
/aco/ seems to favor VFT.

>>78613269
I really should get around to making that Tir Tairngire/Characters page on the wiki.

There are just so many fae characters with distinct designs and little niches they fit into.

I'm starting to think of otherworld as being shaped like an inverted balloon that's still filled.
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>>78609896
I don't care what anyone says Punk>Goth.
And I just don't mean the sexual appeal, I mean the general aesthetic.
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Would Page 10-tan (the Thread Reaper) accept chocolate coins wrapped in gold colored foil?

You know, with the whole "two coins to cross the river Styxs" thing.
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>>78616994
I think she'd be like "heh, cute."
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>>78617336
Son might you be looking for the drawthread?
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>>78617288
She?

But the story prompt that popped into my head was Kid Cookie goes to the underworld to barter for someone's soul.
It's the soul of a pet.

>>78617336
Wrong thread. The current drawthread is >>78578773
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>>78617521
>>78617543
Woops, thanks for that.
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>>78614471
That's not an un-apt way to look at it. Celtic cultures believed the Otherworld was literally on the inside of the planet, hollow earth style.
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>>78618305
Going off of that space borrowing thing we were talking about last thread, I think of it like a balloon.

You know, a normal balloon, kind of spherical, but not too spherical, then you grab a part of it and twist until there's a smaller spherical looking shape attached to it.
The amount of balloon remains the same, but the points on the balloon relative to itself have changed.

So say the balloon is a portion of space and you have your fancy spaceship and set it to warp you to X co-ordinates, only X co-ordinates aren't there when you arrive, so you either end up somewhere else, blow up (because it might try to warp you around where it should be and you get pulled between two points or imploded between two points that shouldn't be touching), or you DO arrive at X co-ordinates, but what's supposed to be there isn't and you crash into a field that should be open space in the vacuum.
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>>78617543
>She?

I just assumed it's a she since 95% of /co/'s characters are waifus.
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>>78619556
The Thread Reaper looks male to me.

It's kind of hard to tell though since the hood is always up.
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>>78612305
Who this?
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>venis
I can only assume that she's a sentient Penis
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>>78619616
What does thread reaper look like?
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>>78618604
That makes sense. I think of it as space being kind of "folded" in certain places, rendering the fae realms hidden from the outside. Space that doesn't show up on maps. A similar principle might be artifically employed to separate the blueblood fiefs from the geographical world.
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>>78619937
It's poor form to post pics of The Thread Reaper unless a thread is past bump limit and also on page 10.

http://the-collection.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=page_10-tan

>>78619951
It's just how I imagine pocket dimensions working. For the blueblood fiefs I think more classical vampire magic might be more apt with people knowing its there, but not going there unless invited or having business to attend to there.

I'm not sure if planes work them same way as pocket dimensions, they could just be their own space without borrowing from a larger universe.
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>>78620062
Oh my bad
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>>78620062
Yeah, I think we're talking about the same concept, just with different terms.

Speaking of bluebloods, did anything ever come of Tantrum and the older blueblood lady?
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>>78620633
Aside from this pic and a name for the evil Blueblood lady of the story (which has probably been lost due the archives going down), it didn't get too far due to conflicts over in what way she would be manipulating Tantrum and if it was Tantrum's origin or not.
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>>78620830
Maitena, wasn't it?
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>>78621955
That looks familiar. That was probably it.

One of the things was a split between how she should be manipulating Tantrum.
One was about her stroking his ego, the other was something else like feeding him her own blood to physically control him.
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And then of course there was this guy.

I think he was Blueblood (the hero)'s sidekick or an idea for one.
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>>78623366
The vampire hunter, right?
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>>78623507
I think so.

I know nothing was ever really solidified about him.
We couldn't seem to nail down his origin or personality.
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What do I want to talk about?

/co/smic ones? Those seem to be getting thrown around in this thread, especially our version of Death.

Or maybe The Devout Symphony and The Moribund Marquess? It'd be nice to get that squared away, and we're already talking about The Lonely King's little meat puppets.
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>>78618305
There was that awesome tree they found on the East Coast buried upside down.

Then they dug it up and stuck it in a museum. Many neopagans were mad as hell.
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>>78627883
In the /co/verse the fairies probably protested.
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Has anyone added Alexfu yet?
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>>78627940
Is this a fusion?

>>78627919
I was under the impression they withdrew from human affairs and try not to engage with them.
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>>78628078
>I was under the impression they withdrew from human affairs and try not to engage with them.

Bug's characters and concepts are both the most important part of the /coc/verse and entirely separate from it depending on the person bringing up a concept.

This is a fine example.

Fairies (every fairy in the setting, since they were made by Bug and none others can exist now) live in a different dimension separate from the main universe...But then they're there protesting en masse an event in the main setting they're meant to be away from.

What if these protesters were actually consistent with what has been established?
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>>78628078
Maybe they protested in the Otherworld. You know, for the spirit of the thing.
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>>78628320
Well it's not like the everyday person in the setting wouldn't know about fairies since they invaded New York during the late 70s (because everything invades New York), so I don't think humans would really care what any fae has to say thanks to that little stunt.
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>>78627883
>Many neopagans were mad as hell.

/coc/ Britain is probably nationally Pagan as a state religion. It's likely that such a thing wouldn't have been removed in /coc/ Britain since even the ordinary person would understand the significance of such a thing.
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>>78629145
I don't like the direction we keep seeming to go with /coc/ Britain.

It just stands out too much if everywhere else in the setting is the same geographically and politically as the real world.

Unless everywhere else in the /coc/ world's setting is just as ridiculous and overblown, then /coc/ Britain should just be normal Britain with magical hot spots that became active when someone did something stupid.
That doesn't account for the talking dinosaurs, but that's an issue with timelines being merged decades prior.
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>>78629396
This is because the rest of the world runs on American Comic logic, where we're meant to accept that their world is exactly the same as ours despite everything making it so that would never be the case. It's safe, but not very interesting.
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I finally remembered again that I was writing that Erin story about her looking for the right golem for her Dark Heart teacher to inhabit.

Hopefully I'll still remember that when I wake up.
I further hope that I won't end up dragging that story on when I get back to continuing it. What I've done so far is already on the wiki.
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>>78629940
I always felt that was really lazy of the comic makers. They should've just solved all the problems of the real world with their fantasic super powers back in the silver age, then dealt with the ramifications of having an apathetic, lethargic global populace by maintaining the superhero-supervillain dynamic. That way the public continues to care enough not to slip into that emotionless void that drives them to commit crimes just to feel anything.

Sure, all the countries exist, but unless it's a PSA, why should who is running them ever be mentioned? Now, a fictional country, that's something you can away with a lot of shit with.
We have some of those, but we don't seem to use them much.

A lot of the times the setting just feels like a white void, like a blank canvas, and the characters just get moved around on the paper without actually being anywhere unless we've already made up someplace for them to be.
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Very slow night.
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>>78632611
So is the broken mask a Dark Heart who went through a war, pissed off a demon king, or pissed off the other Dark Hearts?
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>>78627883
>>78629145
I approve of this.

Could even be fun to have it played as this isn't even remotely weird.
>News headline: POPE MEETS WITH ARCHDRUID
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I'm thinking the ability to move stuff around with just your mind should be rare, even among aliens, though telepathy should be more widespread.

But having controls that you can just think to use should be fairy common even if you're not telepathic since you can do that with an ultrasound band around your think organ's carriage.
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>>78635905

Man, the Catholic church must be either really gimped or really badass in this universe, the Swiss guard + every single knight order must be active in the shadows
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>>78636234
Switzerland is probably exactly the same as reality in every fictional setting. If you ever take a good hard look at Switzerland, you realize why.

As for the Catholic Church, this is a world where people know gods exist, they just don't know which gods are doing what.
It's very Discworld-esque when you think about it since they are maintained by sustained belief.

Though they probably have a very powerful task force of paladins to deal with anything too overly evil happening on the planet.

I'd very much enjoy avoiding that "big churches are evil" thing since I feel it's rather played out.
Having it bogged down to tradition might make it resemble the bureaucracy of demons too much though.
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So what is a paladin's skill set in the /co/verse?

What's our standard paladin package?
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>>78636681

I figure we would be dealing with a very oddly medieval world, the churches would have a lot more sway and resemble international intelligence organizations instead of charities. They would be concerned with fighting the ongoing war against evil as well as keeping the souls of their existing believers in lineand safe, only actively converting through humanitarian missions. The Catholics would send their scholars study and document everything and hoard vast amounts of occult knowledge, literature and artifacts in the Vatican's catacombs as well as advanced technological and magical research facilities.

You'd have a pretty interesting tension between Catholics, Orthodox and Protestants, probably a lot more like Tehran and Mecca, since the nature of god is something far more complex and yet more perceptible to the common man. The coexistence with other pagan worships probably creates syncretism as well and the official canons would be much more colorful.

>>78638154

I imagine every single knight order would exist in some way(Hospitaliers, Templar, Lazarus, Sepulchre, St George, Teutonic, Santiago, etc), as well as companies, missions, militias and so on, all well incorporated to the hierarchy of the church as subordinate organizations tasked with watching and investing the supernatural.

The average knight or missionary would be trained as a priest and a soldier, also specializing in areas like languages, symbology, mathematics and so on.
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>>78639329
I'd rather it not be medieval since there's advanced tech just everywhere already in the modern day setting we have going.
Certain parts of the world could be medieval, but I don't think they should be the first places that come to mind.

I'd like the church to not come off as antagonistic since I feel it'd be too easy to put them in that role.
They want people to believe in their "one true god" yet there are all these very real, very tangible, very public gods walking around and I feel it's too easy to set them up as the bad guys in plots against other gods.
Especially since their own god just can't ever be bothered to come down from wherever and tell them that no, snuffing other other gods isn't cool.

And I'd like to avoid using real world historical people as much as possible since we have never once been able to deal with the baggage that comes with using them. That baggage has untimely crushed any ideas in these threads that use real world historical people.

I'm also worried that the big church in the setting will go the Hellsing route with Britainment playing the role of the Hellsing organization.
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>>78639329
I feel like there's some real potential for a separate reality in the /coc/ Multiverse where magic and the creatures that thrive on it never retreated so everything's high fantasy. The magic races didn't disappear to the Otherworld, humans mastered magic rather than relying exclusively on technology, paladins and fae make war on each other. Sounds like fun to me.
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>>78639615

Well, not medieval as in, sword and shield niggas running around, just the politics. The Pope would be quite powerful and religion would be very closely related to politics since evil and good are a concern just as much as order and chaos or wealth and poorness. People would be talking about the soul saving problem as much as the stock market problem. Far more casually of course. I bring up the knight orders because they are a prime example of how a large religion organizes force, through independent but loyal groups inside every country which don't overstep the local sovereignity, kinda like spy cells instead of mini-nations.

And i like the Dan Brown "CIA with robes" interpretation of the church, i think it's pretty fun to have this huge congregation of devoted people be more like a pragmatic and logical agency than a cult, it's what i think it would become if it actually needed to react to a much more chaotic world where they have an active role in more than just spiritual matters.
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Why does the non-existence of magic and science need to be explained? Just go the whole way and have some fun with it.

Who knows, we could even have a world setting that isn't just Marvel or DC, but with more fetish fuel.
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>>78640111
I see Britain being somewhat obscure in-world.

Like how people of old saw it as some gray, misty island on the edge of the world, with overcast skies and long nights, and strange stone structures and dark forests.
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You're minding your own business keeping reality in check when this guy slaps one of your universes out of the multi-sequence. What do you do?
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>>78640485
The problem with making Britain be this is that USA wouldn't be a country without Great Britain having existed and been great at some point.

And a good chunk of our characters seem to be running about some undisclosed parts of the USA.

>>78640521
Put him on a Mars-like planet and watch him rust for a few eons.

Who even maintains the narrative of the /co/verse's reality? The Archives just preserves it, someone else is probably editing/revising it.
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>>78640753
We could just split the world in half. A lot of the Euro ideas only make sense in their own little bubble.
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>>78641096
No, splitting things always causes more trouble and makes the individual pieces less appealing.

We could just ignore it until it becomes relevant to a story, then work it into the big setting afterwards.
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>>78620062
I wonder what Page 10-tan and Skull King thing of each other.

I wonder if Skull King has ever been in a situation where he corrects someone that he isn't Death, to their relief, then puts his arm around and points at Page 10-tansaying "That's this guy's job."
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>>78638154
So would the paladin brigade by annoyingly bright and flashy, or actually look professional?
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I didn't make a new picture as I'm drawing for another thread, so I guess I'll post a part of Bees story I had in mind for a while.

Bee and Venus toxic relationship

After Bee killed Cat's Pajamas to set cat meow free, Bee got captured by venus fly trap who used his seductive powers to keep him under control, Bee could've refused, could've fought against it but he just didn't have the will to do it, he didn't care.
It was not like he was in danger, atleast not physically, Venus has been since a long time in love with Bee, after he got his powers, he started to stalk Bee, he was obsessed. After he saw how devastated Bee was because he killed cats pajamas, Venus knew it was his chance to support him, to heal him, to make him his.
the first week Venus and Bee indulged in lust, bee couldn't refuse and he didn't want to either, parts due to venus seductive scent, parts because he just wanted to forget.
Day after day Venus took care of Bee while he was barely there or alive, nevertheless it was the best time of Venus life.

Bee could have keep going on like this forever but one day, as he was watching tv for the first time since weeks, he saw that the world had changed in the weeks he was gone, more and more metahumans had appeared, good as evil ones.
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>>78644406
What is this dumb shit
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>>78644158
Pragmatically dressed but proud to fly their colors. Uniforms that are functional but still let you know who they are at a distance.
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>>78645360
What kind of emblem/crest/symbol do they use?

Are there paladins from different faiths in conflict with each other or did the big faiths realize that all the paladins are getting their powers from the same source and resolve their differences to pool their resources into better fighting evil?

How do paladins feel about superheroes? Do some paladins become superheroes to increase the public's opinion of them/to gain popularity/good publicity for their faith?

Would /co/le be considered a paladin or just a chosen "hero" by whatever goddess torments him?
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One of the things I'm getting at is what should be the distinction between a paladin and a god's chosen champion?
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>>78650175
One wants to be it.
The other is wanted to be it.

One is a keen fanatic, the other a more-or-less- willing spoiled hero.
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>>78628078
Alexfu is /gfg/'s Frankenwaifu
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>>78650313
The only thing /co/le really wants is for the stalker goddess, who granted him all these divine powers, to go find someone else to bother.

But he's stuck with it now and as long as it remains that way he's subject to be pulled into stories that want to be told.
The loophole abuse to get out of that is to already be on a quest, and somehow the wording of his modeling contract is twisted enough to count.
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>>78650175
In D&D terms I'm pretty sure god-powered people can be paladins, clerics or druids sometimes. I'm sure there's other things as well.
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>>78651359
I think the difference here is being a paladin means the person is devoted to the god's given CAUSE by their own freewill and granted powers because of it, whereas a champion is a person selected by the god in question to do some task for them, whether they want to or not.
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I approve of unapologetically Pagan mystical Britain.

It could have even gotten this >>78640485 reputation after The Bad Thing. We've already established magical mist is a hell of a drug, so why not just say that the island was surrounded by mist and when it finally cleared it was all magic and Pagan?
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>>78653880
I don't think the talking animals and dinosaurs of class and sophistication much approve of Britain going ass backwards because of magic and fight to restore it tooth and nail.
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>>78653960
>I don't think the talking animals

Talking animals are MAGIC AIN'T GOTTA EXPLAIN SHIT as all hell. And there's one dinosaur that operates on Frosty the Snowman logic, so structuring an entire setting because of one character based on a typo is poor form.
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>>78654041
It's actually a convergent timeline merged into the main one that brought a lot of characters with it.

People got memories of things that never happened, banks suddenly had records of accounts and the corresponding amounts of money that should be in the accounts, physical locations materialized, and it all happened without anyone so much as batting an eye since they all thought that's how it'd always been.
That's happened at least three times because of Doctor SCIENCE fucking around with his time travel technology. We only ever seem to talk about the one that brought in the Victorian dinosaurs.

It probably happened during the 1980s. That decade was full of shit in the /co/verse.
Fae invasion, Machine Cult "final" showdowns when the Soviets couldn't keep it together anymore, timelines collapsing and merging, etc.

I could try to put together an in-universe timeline for the crazy shit that has actually been discussed and never disputed in the 8 years we've been at this.

I did it before, I just didn't include the fucked up time travel bullshit that merged continuities.
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>>78654189
Why does everything need to be in one big Zelda Timeline clusterfuck like the Big Two do?
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>>78654905
>MUH BIG TWO

Why do you have to whinge about that incessantly?
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>>78655001
Because it's clear that this thinking is holding back what can be done in these threads. Any attempt to do something other than what has been established for a totally different genre.
>No we can't have a mystical and magical Europe because of America and dinosaurs.

Even suggesting that it have its own setting has people get mad because then it doesn't tie together with American superheroes.

This makes sense for Marvel and DC who gain by synergy, but why do people on the internet need to obey these rules?
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>>78654905
It's not really a clusterfuck, I've just never gotten around to simplifying it and cutting it down to only the most basic need to know details.
It merely appears as a clusterfuck so no one will go poking holes in it since the internal logic depends on people not wanting to cross-examine it. No one likes considering the alternative that their memories do not contain the same memories that they did a few minutes ago, that's a terrifying prospect that most people would ignore to preserve their own sanity.

Simply put, there was an alternate timeline where there were talking animals and dinosaurs living alongside people, then, due to a time travel mishap, that timeline was merged with the main one and sent characters from the past to the present, while also replacing parts of the main timeline's past so the narrative inertia wouldn't snap back and attempt to retcon it.

Narrative inertia snap backs cause time to twist and collapse in on itself most of the time, nobody wants that.

It's like in Back to the Future where it shouldn't be possible for Marty to erase himself from history because then he wouldn't be able to go back in time in the first place to do the things that he did to get erased.
Though you'd call that a paradox, it's a good example of inertia and how time takes time to correct itself when it is tampered with.

Time can be tricked in this particular setting is what I'm partially getting at.
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>>78655182
No one opposed your suggestion of making an alternate Earth with magic everywhere.

Though the whole thing reminds me too strongly of Britbongsteros for me to be comfortable contributing to it.

Personally I don't care for making the British islands into magic backwards time land since I feel there are more interesting places that could be applied to.
Like parts of Africa, or the middle-east, or even sections of China that no one actually lives in like those abandoned modern cities. Imagine if one of those was built over a magic hot spot that suddenly became active and the city was filled up with spirits who thought it was built for them.
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>>78655332
I just finished reading through the thread, and all your posts read like your super into yourself, my dude. Do people just want to suck the fun out of Chaptor, and other talking animals? Really?
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>>78655390
Britain works as such a thing because even the modern version supports such a mood.

And Britbongsteros is 1) /tg/ 2) a D&D expansion pack, while this is more Mythago Wood crossed with Mononoke.

Besides, such a setting as this would actually lend itself to a whole world of stylised and thematically joined settings.
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Wall of text incoming.
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>>78655427
Yeah, I get that way whenever I'm trying to piece everything that's been discussed and has been around for years together into a cohesive narrative of this shared setting.

I'd be happier talking about one of Chaptor's grand adventures where he's solving mysteries or something, but no one ever responds when I try to talk about that.
I don't like discussing "lore" since "lore" isn't a story, but it's all that ever seems to be able to keep a thread up these days, and that's just the only way I can discuss it.

>>78655466
>the modern version supports such a mood
I just don't follow.

I'm not going to get why you want the British Islands to go back in time and be some kind of medieval soup.
It's just not interesting to me the way it's being presented, it feels rather generic to me actually.

I can think of some ways where it would be interesting to me, like having it so that does happen and some people remember what the islands SHOULD be like and are trying to fix it causing conflict with what's there now, but no one seems to want to entertain that way of looking at it.

It would actually give a plot to all the Britainment stuff at least.
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So these threads just became two parties bickering to themselves about some inane bullshit they think is right for a concept? What happened, baby?
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>>78655646
>>78655646
>What happened, baby?
/co/ changed
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>>78655690
Who the fuck are you, trippy? Besides wanting for attention.
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>>78655720
I have been around since the beginning, albeit as an anon at first. I have contributed to a lot of the ancient projects.
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>>78655646
Pretty much. Long gone are the days when there's a hundred different fun things going on in a /coc/ thread, some more retarded than others. Now it's just a few people talking about one thing that they never agree on until eventually all drive and conviction fizzle out and something equally messy and ill-conceived.
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>>78655764
That's because fun concepts get killed off. The last one I remember is Windbreaker, and you saw what happened with that.
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>>78655690
>>78655760
>>78655790
Oh wow. These thread have one of these, now. There's going to be point in near future where I'll miss when these were slow.
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>>78655797
?
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>>78655790
What do you mean? There's still plenty of fetish content.
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>>78656578
It was just stupid fun that everyone contributed to equally, instead of trying to micromanage it. The entire concept was just goofy too.
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>>78655646
It only ever happens to the larger concepts though.
The smaller in scale ones get settled easy
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>>78656614
Sounds like recent fetish project Golden Girl. Maybe your issue is that it's not about fart fetish in particular?
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>>78657034
Nah, I wrote the plot to Erika and participated in projects like 616 vs the Straw Hats too.
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>>78657034
I dunno man last week we had that one anon whining about how nothing here was serious and everything was fetish waifus that kept going on and on about how we absolutely NEEDED to talk about his Lara Croft ripoff because it was a "serious" idea.

>>78655598
Has also point that a lot of these threads have been taken over by deepest lore guys that keep piling on ideas and world-building but no actual stories or comics or even just design pictures half the time.
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>>78657321
exactly
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>>78657321
>Has also point that a lot of these threads have been taken over by deepest lore guys that keep piling on ideas and world-building but no actual stories or comics or even just design pictures half the time.

For years it's been this way, we haven't been suddenly 'taken over', people who are willing to keep up and produce are dwindling. I know i put a lot of my own projects on hold for the sake of sorting my shit out and gaining a little more experience.

And coming up with lore is how most people go about cteating those stories in the first place. Conglicts and motivations are rooted in the world.
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https://soundcloud.com/kaybeccab/avatarstudy5

I composed a little study on The Track Team's motifs and themes for Avatar
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>>78658869
Neat.
Makes me wonder, if /coc/ characters had musical themes, what would they sound like?
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>>78658047
Every world needs a strong foundation though and just mindlessly throwing out lore doesn't build that. Just piling more crap onto a character usually only makes fitting that character somewhere that much more difficult.
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>>78657321
>I dunno man last week we had that one anon whining about how nothing here was serious and everything was fetish waifus

we have posts like that atleast once a month, I doubt it is the same person.
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>>78659011

Depends on the kind of story too. Lore is very good when you plan for several interconnected stories AS LONG as you actually visit it instead of backpeddaling when you find out you don't like it in practice.
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>>78659526
That's part of the problem. Backpedalling and people who want to contribute not wanting to get bogged down by a bunch of irrelevant lore that was never actually used for anything.
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>>78658965
https://youtu.be/RaY1ihyBtbA
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>>78655598
>one of Chaptor's grand adventures

Chaptor receives word that his old protégé Parasso is up to something in the Alps, but what could he possibly hope to accomplish luring him there knowing they'd both be a step slower in the cold?

Parasso is wearing newfangled heated long johns in an attempt to get the drop on his old teacher.
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>>78659356
Didn't say it was the same person every time.

I am thinking very specifically of >>78530282 who railed on how Tatyana wasn't serious enough an adventurer and completely missed the point that there's a reason that serious canon and deep lore tend to result in nothing getting done; they're just not as accessible.


No let me be clear, I think world building has its place and is a powerful tool in our arsenal. I have see a couple things here that could probably use more of it. But I also think that a story is like a shopping cart. The heavier the load, the more muscle you need to actually move it.

The reason an idea like /co/nrad works is because it's light enough on the lore and design aspects that anyone can jump in, do a quick comic or picture or story, and jump out. Whereas if I wanted to do something for Brittainment I already feel like I'd have to at least devote a day to reading wikis and digging through thread archives just to make sense of all the lore. And do I really want to make that kind of investment?
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>>78660148
>No let me be clear, I think world building has its place and is a powerful tool in our arsenal.

It's place is when you are actually actively planning out a specific story, not when you are just doing it for the sake of doing it.
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>>78659910
Chaptor could easily prepare for that by keeping a thermos of 5-alarm carnivore chili with him. Just down the whole thing before stepping outside and the heat radiating from his belly will keep his vital organs warm no matter how cold it is.
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>>78660195
I think there's other places for it too though.
Like for example, we say that Golden Girl is a comic book in the /co/ verse, right? But the /co/ verse also has talking dinosaurs like Chaptor, so how does that mesh with a panel with non-sapient dinosaurs like up in >>78606404 ?

That's worth discussing if only to keep the thread from dying, and it's not piling details upon details in that case, it's somewhat relevant.
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>>78660240
Chaptor and his ilk are obviously very special cases. The huge overwhelming majority of dinosaurs in /co/verse are normal.
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>>78660240
That's really more of part of the character's story than lore/world building.

This: >>78660309 would most likely be the case, and why Chaptor is different would be a part of his charcter. There is not reason for tons of backstory lore around it. Just a simple origin story.
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>>78660199
So that's kind of like how those fluffy looking rescue dogs carry around a container of alcohol to help people they're digging out of the snow feel warm for a little while?

Parasso's plans would probably include keeping his former teacher out in the cold for as along as possible before engaging him.
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>>78661135
Damn, I just remembered there was this other idea for a Chaptor story involving Madame Danger hunting a yeti and Chaptor dealing with this same issue of it being a trap with the cold being meant to make him a step slower so he'd be easier to hunt.
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>>78662719
You know a lot of new evidence is pointing to dinosaurs being warm blooded or at least somewhere in-between, right?

http://www.livescience.com/51162-dinosaurs-warm-blooded-growth-rates.html
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>>78658965
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeLdKNGFUEI
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>>78658965
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIyRXvHmXxo
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>>78660148
>how Tatyana wasn't serious enough an adventurer and completely missed the point that there's a reason that serious canon and deep lore tend to result in nothing getting done;

But I'm reading that post and this isn't what they're saying at all. If you're going to lie about someone's argument at least don't post the argument.

>>You could just say "that sounds like Tatyana," but this hasn't been Tatyana for a long time. This also seperates the character from a backstory more interesting than she is. A young woman getting mad at superheroes is far less interesting than her anti-government wistleblower father.
>>Tatyana started as a world-wise traveller and investigator
>>This is all forgotten in favor of her being a pervert who likes taking pictures of sexy women.


And further on:
>>But I see this character being far more proactive than Tatyana (who is more passive and reactive)

Your entire point has fallen apart based on what you used to back up your point.

>The reason an idea like /co/nrad works is because it's light enough on the lore and design aspects that anyone can jump in, do a quick comic or picture or story, and jump out. Whereas if I wanted to do something for Brittainment I already feel like I'd have to at least devote a day to reading wikis and digging through thread archives

So you agree that guy's character is better than Tatyana, who requires knowledge of an entire separate country's politics to understand?
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>>78662950
>>78655646
Amazing.
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>>78662950
>So you agree that guy's character is better than Tatyana, who requires knowledge of an entire separate country's politics to understand?
No, I think "pervert that likes taking pictures of sexy women" is a reductionist claim, but still much easier thing to jump into and integrate with the rest of the /coc/ stuff since it doesn't require research into the behaviors of mongolian farmers and kurdish boarder guards. That a return to the perceived roots of the character (either by "fixing" the old one or creating a new one) rather than what the simpler caricature the character supposedly became would be to create something more complex yes, more serious yes, but also more esoteric as a consequence. And esoteric is hard to get people to spring for.

But whatever man, do your thing. Thread's big enough for everything.
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>>78662950
>who requires knowledge of an entire separate country's politics to understand?
Is this homework, anon? You treating it like a writers gig or something? Where's the chill, baby?
I can't wait for your next wall of text, after this. ;^)
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I'm back to ruin the thread!

Okay so it turns out if I convert the image to a jpg it makes the file size bigger, BUT if I convert it to grayscale after putting the text boxes back in and stuff it just about halves it, so now I don't have to worry about not being able to post it. That and the fact that we now have two whole rows done is the good news.

The bad news is I just can't seem to get the pose and angle for the A panel right.
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>>78663180
>characters are bad if they have too much backstory
>said in defence of a character that has a wiki entry for a character that doesn't even show up outside of backstory, and then wiki entries for each his underlings

Just saying it's pretty retarded.
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>>78663324
Just link it from imgur
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>>78663324
>get the pose and angle for the A panel right
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>>78663350
>>characters are bad if they have too much backstory
Shit, I didn't even get that from anon's dumb post. I read it as akin to >>78659753 post. Especially the bogged down/irrelevant lore part. But sure.
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>>78663398
I won't need to now, is what I'm saying. By the time this is done it'll probably top out at 2.5 mb max now that I took the color information out.

>>78663414
Thought about that but I kind of wanted more body since then I could establish her sleepwear. Also realistically there's no real way she could sleep on her stomach so poses like they didn't seem like they'd work..
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>>78659753
Isn't this what happens whenever anyone tries to bring up any sort of magic world or people?
>what about ...
>BUG DID IT BUG SIMPSON DID IT
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>>78663610
>no real way she could sleep on her stomach
Tiny image, but I hope it helps.
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>>78663669
...I'm not entirely sure she'd be able to sleep on her back either actually, but I'm enjoying researching how busty girls sleep so there is no losing here.

Worst case scenario I'm gonna go with that pose though.
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>>78663324
>>78663414
>>78663610

you do know tits are not solid balloons right, they can be squeezed and moved out of the way, or just spill out to the sides
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>>78662902
The theory had been presented to me, yes, but I always thought we were just going with the notion of fantasy dinosaurs with green skin that looked like big lizards instead of the feathered ones when it came to the ones who could talk.

>>78663324
I'd been imagining her shooting up right in surprise from bed.
Like waking up from a nightmare.
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>>78663779
I can sleep on my back, chest, and side. Side is the most confortable but the others aren't torture. I'm an F so I'm not quite as big as GG though.
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>>78663836
No shit, Professor. It's not like the purpose here is to exaggerate a physical trait. But here's a scientifically accurate comic, though.
You silly /co/conut ;3
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Why no biker girls?
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>>78663865
Science has ruined dinosaurs so I say bring on the theme park versions.
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>>78664077
Tats rides a motorcycle.
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>>78664077
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3nMnr8ZirI
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>>78655646
Yeah and half the time it's whether or not to tack on giant bouncy tits to a character.

Personally I'm in favor of it.
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>>78664611
At least for these threads.
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>>78664130
Is it some super swanky monster, or a case of "What country's this bike from?" "It no longer exists."
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>>78666196
Some old Soviet-era thing.
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>>78664611
Keep throwing that tantrum and I'll stick tits on everything just to spite you. It'll be like that South Park episode.
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>>78666196
PUT IT IN H
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>>78666268
Fun fact: people race across a frozen lake on soviet motorcycles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6LRvj6-7OQ
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>>78666415
Two tantrums don't make a right, anon-chan.
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>>78666415
E-even oppai Marley?
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>>78666416
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07vdtBMG4Kg

Yo, but Toriyama made those designs work.
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>>78666520
Yeah. It'll be like dividing by zero and the thread will 404 immediately.
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>>78666578
The Omega Option. You madman.
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>>78666520
>>78666578
>Implying that anon draws
But really, that already exists as Alt. Earth Marley.
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>>78666556
Am I the only one that loves shitty vehicles?

There's something so endearing about them.
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>>78666606
It's the nuclear option because she'd have a pair of bombshells.
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>>78666578
Shit already exists, see >>78666616
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>>78666471
Shit like this makes me think that the British Empire was just a dare gone too far.
>"So we told Britain to conquer the world ... they actually did it the absolute madmen."

>>78666670
Look at the poor thing! It wants to try so hard!
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>>78666857
For the purposes of the joke I'm pretending it doesn't.
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>>78666670
>>78666895

>a two stroke car

So cute!
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>>78667064
BIG FAT TITTIES ARE COMING FOR YOU MARLEY, IT'S ONLY A MATTER OF TIME. Just kidding she'll always be a dejected flatty.
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>>78667425
Looking at her mom she might wind up as a shortstack if she ever gets any estrogen in her system.
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>>78666196
>>78666895

I wonder if Tats ever gets tired of being such a stereotype.
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>>78667911
>Join me Marley, I appreciate your flat beauty
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>>78668235
FINISH IT.
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>>78667911
>>78668235
Keep digging in that dropbox folder, there's a better pic of Marley with giant tits in it.
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>>78668453
Well, I found this.
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>>78668453
>>78668677
This too.
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>>78668677
>>78668749
You fool! You'll doom us all!
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>>78668453
>>78668677
>>78668749
Here's another I somehow glossed over at first. These all look like they were done by the same artist.
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>>78668958
Mindwipe is a man of the people.
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>>78668958
That's the one.

Yeah, mindwipe did those.
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>>78669056
We gotta get him to do more peopling, then.
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>>78669750
He's done so much for us already.
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>>78669898
Here's to a healthy new year full of opportunity.
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>>78670091
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>>78671084
Who even puts vodka in their milk anyway?
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>>78671222
Russians
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>>78606352
>-BreastQuest's story outline continues to be discussed

Speaking of I've always wondered what this character does? Like I know he's a mechanical guy, but how so? Electrical engineer, robotics, software stuff, what does he actually specialize in? Or is he the catch-all machine prodigy.
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>>78672865
He maintains whatever tech his partner has that lets her still use the GPS in orbit.
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>>78674148
Yea but he's got his other backstory as a scientist. I mean being able to maintain complex equipment takes a lot of talent and training, I think it'd be useful to more specifically define that stuff.
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>>78666415
>>78664656

I'm not complaining! I liked Ma'am Aries, BreastQuest, and Golden Girl. Did my post seem sarcastic?
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>>78674431
Star by what role he needs to play in the story and go from there.
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>>78677572
Well electrical engineer would probably be the most useful for him, with some specialty in communications systems. I don't think the GPS satellite thing was part of him before, but that's actually a good idea and gives a purpose to the antenna on his back.
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>>78679143
I thought the GPS stuff was already well established.

That's the first thing someone told me about the character when I asked about the Bri crew.
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alright uh, my time to bump again

how do you -know- when you're overcomplicating things?
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>>78682071
>how do you -know- when you're overcomplicating things?

When they get too complicated.
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>>78682071
When it's a story - when you lose sight of the plot
When it's art - When it looks like the recent Ninja Turtle movie designs.
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>>78682071
It depends what you're creating, epic fantasy can stand a lot more baggage than a thriller can.
Generally I think you should try to only provide information necessary to the plot + information that expands on things your audience cares about (so if you probably shouldn't go into depth about irrigation; you might find it fascinating and have put dozens of hours into researching it but most people aren't going to care).
Also >>78682154
Of course there are always exceptions, lots of writers are famous/loved for doing exactly those things.
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A's done, and with it, the first three rows. Next up is probably going to be O or U, either way it'll probably involve fighting a kraken.
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>>78682719
Neat! I really enjoy your work, Sab.
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>>78682071
'sup, red
weird seeing your work when it's not the weekend
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>>78682719

Love the work you're doin' on Golden Girl, man. Great job!
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>>78666471
That is the kind of shit Tats needs to get up to.

>>78664130
Is she a squid?

>>78682071
Am I the only one who thinks this looks too real? The idea of uplifted animal soldiers is a sci-fi tale as old as time, but this is just not cartoony enough for how everything in the setting works. I mean that in a meta sense, where it clashes with art styles for us, even if everything looks that real in universe.

...Is this making any sense?
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>>78683416
It looks like a furry. It would look better if it was closer to Armor King from Tekken.
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>>78682719
Looks great.
Which letters don't you have suggestions for yet?
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>>78682719
N, can't do anything nighttime or nocturnal for N.
Nasty or Naughty seem like they would be No-Nos too.
Nailed Ne'er-do-wells - GG catching/stopping some kids from doing something they'd regret, like smashing windows with rocks.

Octagonal Occultists might work for O.
Guys in robes, trying to do a sacrifice thing or something like that.

Voodoo Vixen, or something with a voodoo doll not working because it doesn't look enough like GG due to a lack of GGs on it.
Though "vicious" is probably the more go-to for V.

X is still a challenge.
Xylograph and a suitable X noun could work for busting a crude counterfeiting operation.

Y still feels like it should involve yawning to lead into Z.
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>>78683557
Youthful Yawning?
X can be done if you count eXtreme eXtravaganza.
Or you could do Xiphos Xylograph? Xiphos being a swordfish, that is.
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>>78683647
A xylograph is a block of wood with engravings in it used for printing.

More than half of the X words I find I suspect did not exist until the 60s or 70s.

Though Xeroxing has apparently been around since the 50s.
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>>78683462

Ironically I think it would look better (again, this is all in a meta sense) as a furry. That cartoony aspect and less animal look would fit with the art style of the universe a lot more.

Either that or something along the lines of Tigra or Cheetah.

That character actually looks more like an animal than the actual animals I've seen drawn in this universe.

Besides, if you're making science animal soldiers, making them more human in terms of facial features would probably be better for unit operation as well. Like, cohesiveness and all that.
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>>78683647
A swordfish somthing is good for x, much less predictable than xeno-somthing.
Xylograph doesn't really work with it though, honestly most of the x combinations we've produced have been borderline word salad.
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>>78683921
X really does not allow for many options that work with alliterations.
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>>78683557
>X is still a challenge.
You could cheat and use X-Mas, XP, or XD.

>>78683817
That was my point with the Tekken reference. Make them Mostly human but with an animal feature, like an animal head
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>>78683921
They're trying to counterfeit swordfish, so... yeah. Probably ultra-Dadaist terrorists.
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>>78683950
Can't really do seasonal stuff in this case.

Not sure if XP would work since experience points has that "e", and I don't know if tabletop games were popular during the time period GG takes place in.
And extra dimensions also has that "e".

If we were going to cheat with X, I'd rather it be more like what >>78683647 said using action words.
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>>78683416
>Is she a squid?

A lot of adventure bikers in remove countries have a bit of a "if I crash out here I'm fucked anyway so why wear a helmet?" attitude.
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>>78666268
What an original idea that I'm sure you're in no way stealing.
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>>78685042
Well first off, more than one character can ride a motorcycle, you fucking idiot, and secondly Tats has been around longer than that thing you posted by several years.
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>>78685042
I know Psu posts here so I never know if it's him making these retarded shitposts or not.
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>>78685391
>more than one character can ride a motorcycle
lies
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>>78682719
Wow, just six panels left! We're doing pretty good here,

>>78683557
Last time I suggested a panel with the Racketeer that was originally for N, but could be changed to "Vociferous Villains!" and used for V.
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>>78685658
The tumblr filename suggests not. If it was the originator posting it, the filename would probably be related to their internal filing system rather than the easily-grabbed public one.
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>>78683462
>>78683817

see, that's precisely the point. They're not supposed to be cute or look so relatable, they're pretty much monsters, closed to a werewolf than a cartoon cat. They aren't friends to all of earth's kids, they murder people in gory ways for morally dubious reasons, without much care or remorse. They're wild animals put to service, they don't think like we do, they're the antithesis of a soldier revelling in the unnatural world of slaughter, they are predators and this is their very nature that's being let loose. I want to take this weird idea of the animal hybrid and actually play up that uncanny valley feeling to use it as a tool, the realism serves to resemble you of something living and familiar yet completely off. Starting off with a kinda silly concept and making it openly gratuituous, crude and gritty is much more fun for me than toning it down and making it bland furbait.

>Besides, if you're making science animal soldiers, making them more human in terms of facial features would probably be better for unit operation as well. Like, cohesiveness and all that.

i feel like animals are plenty expressive as they are, however, i support that putting this barrier between the viewer and the true nature of these characters is a good thing. They would only need to speak to do most work either way.
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>>78688313
I agree the the Racketeer should be included in this somewhere.

It'd be nice if we could squeeze in the Jade Empress as well.
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>>78690820
Or is she too much of an overarching villain to work in the standalone joke format GG uses?

Her whole thing is she's after all these magical artifacts that both heroes and villains are using.
Really feels like a bigger bad type.
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>>78692970
This strip alone has introduced at least two more villians so we're well on our way to a rogues gallery One panel won't break the bank anyway.
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>>78690553
I'mma smooch that lion. Get a face full of red.
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>>78693166
Where could we put her though?

She's a Chinese Mummy using magic to look not undead.
I suppose we could think of something for X using a Chinese word.
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>>78666471
>that bit about how they're doing something new in an unknown place, and how rare that is nowadays.

That made me sad...
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>>78680115
Well having a GPS system set up for cartography would be pretty useful. Although what with a big chunk of the moon exploding, what exactly is still floating around in space besides the satnav system Seymour links up with? Can't be too much.
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>>78695161
There's probably some abandoned space stations up there that could come crashing down in the wasteland as a convenient plot device.
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>>78695634
Maybe some orbital weapons platforms. Everyone loves a big space laser.
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Well well well.

http://foolz.fireden.net/co/

That's very interesting. A static archive dedicated to getting all the stuff moe had up so the other archives aren't crashing trying to import all that.

Now I can recover some of the Hazel greentexts.
And the Cosmic Crusader's script that was posted with the WIP pages.
And whatever else I can find.
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>>78683647
Remember that clusterfuck of minor characters in a skyscraper plot from two years ago? Found that thread in the static archive.

http://foolz.fireden.net/co/thread/56561241/#56599048

That might be worth a re-visit.

Next I should look for the Chicken Divine train robbery.
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>>78695020
It's pretty much the essence of adventure though.
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>>78666268
Chinese bikes are the new Soviet bikes.
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>>78699155
Soviet bikes have that old charm and actually work. Chink bikes just explode
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>>78699256
>Chink bikes just explode

They do no such thing!

They catch on fire then explode about an hour later in the back of the rescue van.
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>>78699749
Is that the bike or the rider?
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>>78701763
A little of column A a little of column B.
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>>78692970
>>78693166
>>78694103
I always pictured her as being Silver Queens arch nemesis, with the twist being that the arch nemesis relationship is observed from the sidekicks perspective.
None of the characters in the setting aside from Silver Queen even have magical artifacts so at the moment there isn't any possibility of this being a broader story arc even if people decided there should be one.
All of the Chinese words starting with x I could find were proper names which would be impossible to communicate the meaning of in a single panel.
Maybe we could do Nemesis somthing for N. Nemesis Knockdown works, although it feels a bit like cheating.
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>>78702474
Billy has a magic comb that let's him restyle his hair instantly.

Then there's that evil baby with the rattle that causes it to explosively duplicate.

I feel there were more characters with magical items.
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>>78702474
If she's a mummy, how about Necromantic Nemesis?
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>If she's a mummy
Cummy Mummy? Wait, no.
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>>78703499
I don't know that that would work. There's nothing about her that looks like it would have anything to do with necromancy so it might just make the panel confusing.
On the other hand Necromatic Nemesis is pretty good alliteration and I don't have a better suggestion right now.
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>>78704876
Does she have the ability to summon undead servants?

We haven't actually talked much about what she's capable of.
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>>78703045
I thought we weren't doing the baby because it was blatantly obvious lactation bait.
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>>78706705
Her controlling an army of terracotta warriors was the most popular suggestion. I don't recall any one suggesting undead minions.
>>78707689
Another hyper-intelligent baby character was suggested in later thread. It wasn't an obvious fetish enabler but I agree that it might be wise to avoid babies in general.
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>>78706705
>>78708094
If not undead servants, maybe the panel could depict SQ and GG somehow causing the concealing magic to fail, exposing her mummy self?
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>>78708094
I thought it was "jade golems as well as a magical compass that allows her to track other magical items".

I suppose she could imprison souls in the jade constructs and that could count as a form of necromancy.
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>>78707689
GG's not exactly subtle herself, but hey.
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>>78711038
There is a less-than-fine line between giant boobs as comedic fanservice and blatant lactation fetish material.
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>>78711038
>>78713572
I think a good way to look at it is to actually count the panels in >>78682719 where the punch line is boobs. Yeah, the boobs are always present, but only there's currently like 6 or 7 panels that wouldn't work conceptually without them compared to 13 that would. That's the kind of ratio GG works on; 1/3rd boob jokes, 2/3rds golden/silver age nonsense
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>>78711038
>>78713572
BQ also had to get away from the milky menace. /co/ should just make up a lactation based heroine if people are so intent on it.
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>>78714738
That comic is not representative of all her material, and the fewer boob punchlines are because there's only so many words for boob.

That said, yes, oppai loli is a step removed from lactation fetish and it's probably best to keep it that way.
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>>78714860
>That comic is not representative of all her material,
Wasn't saying it as, but even counting her other comics done so far, it's still about the same percentage wise. The only way it'd skew otherwise is if we count the 34 as well.
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>>78714843
They'd have to go to /aco/ for that.
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>>78715094
I haven't been keeping count so we'll leave it at that.
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>>78690553
>when your girlfriend is on her period dot jpg
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>>78715286
In terms of images with more than one panel in actual comic form, by my count there's

SFW: 6 (with one being "non-canon" due to the presence of the /aco/lyte Wizard and one still being drawn as we've seen in this thread)
NSFW: 2

Overall though, including all the content of GG currently drawn, there's:

SFW: 33
NSFW: 12

And this is just by my count and I am actually very tired right now and had to count more than once each time.

While the porn hasn't overtaken it, the quality of some of the porn made is quite high.
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>>78717078
It wasn't a question of SFW vs NSFW, it was a question of boob gags.
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>>78627883
>>78629145
Totally imagining some edgy teenage Wicca-like girl...Only she's totally right and the world around her supports her beliefs.

In fact, that makes me wonder. What if Henges were magical gateways? Not quite Stargates, but more like power sockets, only they carry magic and not electricity.

So there's this massive issue with Pagan groups and single believers throwing up stone circles around and causing all kind of shit.

Just imagine the news headlines.
>TEENAGE GIRL ARRESTED IN SCHOOL MAGIC ATTACK
>A 15 year old girl, who cannot be named for legal reasons, was arrested this Tuesday for constructing a stone circle in the woods near the school, in order to summon a familiar to read test answers and Think her the results...
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>>78718783
>Totally imagining some [...] girl
STOP THE PRESSES

Spoilers, this character exists, her name is Erin
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>>78718783
>Why not use the time you used to build this circle to study for the exam?
>M-MUH OLD WAYS

>>78718993
Makes sense. Neopagans split pretty hilariously between the genders.
>male neopagans: MUH WARRIOR CULTURE NICE TREE JESUS HERE'S MY AXE
>female neopagans: MIH WITCHES AND MAGIC SISTER MOON SPEAK TO ME
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>>78718993
Did Erin actually have any belief in such things? Besides, stone circles are pretty much the most British paganism you can have, and she hates the British.
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>>78709898
Could that be clearly communicated in only one panel?
>>78710890
I didn't see the jade construct idea getting as much support, but it's entirely possible that I missed a thread where it did. Feel free to make a case for it.
Imprisoning souls seems a little bit dark compared to most of whats in already.
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>>78719042
Erin confirmed secret teaboo.
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>>78719128
"Magic is universal! Celts aren't British! France invented magic!"
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>>78719025
>>78718783
>She secretly manages to get a familiar after all
>"O great and noble Cait Sidhe! I implore you, what is the square root of a in this query?"
>"I'm a bloody cat spirit, not one of your mathematicians! Now if the question was 'how to survive the fae' or even 'how to correctly hunt mice the cat way' then I might know the answer, silly girl!"
>Sadgirl.jpg
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>>78719113
>Could that be clearly communicated in only one panel?
Maybe SQ using her magic bracelets to reflect light onto her, revealing her mummy nature? She could be recoiling away from the light, creating a half-and-half visual effect showing that her human appearance is a magical illusion.
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>>78719042
I don't think she did.

She just did that stuff because she was bored and no one in her group of friends had any better suggestions.
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>>78723440
I'm sure one of her friends believed it, even if they didn't openly admit it.

Also, anyone else reminded of Jamanji when they think of Erin's backstory?
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>>78719113
Well her name is the Jade Empress, so it'd make sense she does something with jade.
Like imprisoning people in jade, or controlling jade.
Unless of course her mask is made of jade and her magic is jade colored when she's using it.

But jade constructs just feel more inline with her developing concept than terracotta warriors.

>>78724521
I never thought about that, but I can see it. Playing what you think is a normal game then then getting whisked away some some strange place.

The similarities are pretty broad though.
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>>78723440
>>78724521
One of Erin's character traits is a willingness to consider things most people would dismiss as impossible and always try to see for herself.

If her friends had reason to believe the magic would work, she was probably ready to believe it to.
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>>78726009
She's never really struck me as a particularly imaginative person.

In what ways is she more imaginative than my current impression of her?
Which is that of a person who will just accept things as presented unless she has a reason to doubt them. Yet she's never come off as overtly naive, more like "you can say whatever you want and I won't call you out on it because I have no reason to fight you over it" or "there's nothing to gain from convincing you otherwise".
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I know that the DFC have advanced mechs like KNIGHTS (albeit in very small supply), but as far as the rest of their armory goes I guess it's your standard tanks and troop transport/APCs? I know it was discussed they might have VTOL stuff but they don't have jets or anything right?
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>>78727793
If they had jets then places like The Pit wouldn't be able to exist and the rebel base wouldn't have remained hidden.

It's safe to assume the DFC have no long range reconnaissance that doesn't rely on directly deploying people.
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>>78727793
>>78728279
Might not even have tanks. The KNIGHTS are probably all the heavy mechanized units they need. There's no war or any comparable power to them, they probably only have advanced APCs with maybe a large cannon or missile launchers
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>>78728851
If you're going to armor the troop mover, you might as well stick guns all over it too.

That'd be my first inclination.
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>>78731193
Probably a standard model with a large tank-sized cannon and a few variants. Probably missile launchers, miniguns, maybe even a flame thrower. They probably have a few smaller vehicles with sensor suites on them, or they could just use beacons thats they drop around the wasteland.
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>>78731290
Sounds more like what The Pit would do with troop movies than the DFC since they're all about uniformity.
The DFC probably don't have enough resources to get all their APCs decked out with guns anyway, so they make different models with different purposes.

They probably don't even let their troops paint things on the sides of their vehicles, meanwhile you'd see all kinds of pin-ups and tits painted all over Pit movers which double as propaganda against the DFC.
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>>78731443
Or they could just use a modular system for their APCs. Instead of manufacturing a whole new APC they just make weapons that they can swap out. That way you can keep the numbers down due to the resource problem but still have a realistic amount of variants. I mean a real, organized military force like the DFC wouldn't just have one model of APC.
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>>78731555
Their organized, but we don't know just how many vehicles and resources they have at their disposal.

I suppose that could be the focus of one issue of BQ, someone doing reconnaissance since the intel will have undoubtedly changed from the time the DFC defects of their group joined them.

That or Seymour can get an old satellite working to spy on the mega city from above.
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>>78731727
Well we can at least assume that there's a few hundred. The Megacity would be able to make that many just considering the sheer size of it. Enough to be able to field a few dozen at a time if necessary with backups. A fully mechanized unit with actual tactics for anti-vehicle fighting probably wouldn't exist though. Not to mention a lot of those weapons systems wouldn't get too much use, considering only large factions like the Pit or that car gang would really be able to fight back with their own vehicles.
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>>78731965
The size of the mega city is something I've been curious about.

Just how big is it? Because I keep imagining something like a city-state when I feel I should be imagining something about 1/4th the size of Mega City-1.

It probably has underground parking for some of their equipment.
A tactic could be to present a threat that makes them put everything into the fray, then sneak a team in through some underground tunnels to blow up something inside of the city.
Either a power plant or the Empress herself, though I'd imagine they'd want to keep the city mostly intact so it could continue to be used after capturing it.
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>>78732138
It's supposed to be pretty big but not like the size of a state or anything. I think it'd be acceptable to rename it since "megacity" seems to give people a misleading size estimates. It's probably about the size of the New York Metropolitan area, maybe a bit bigger. Megacity seems like a placeholder name that just never got changed.
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>>78732401
In my mind, I keep seeing The Pit as being more expansive than the megacity, but the megacity as being more built up.

Is it just a normal city, but because it's the only proper city left it's called "mega"?
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>>78732721
Like it has a ton of skyscrapers, paved roads, robust electricity and city services, ample defense and food production. Water is plentiful. Basically it's the only thing resembling a pre-cataclysm city in the area that BQ takes place. It's a glittering jewel in the otherwise harsh desert. I don't think the Pit should be bigger, but having it be more flat like a European city sounds good. Also some favela styled slums for flavor.
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>>78732896
Well there's a pic of The Pit on the wiki page for it, and I remember seeing a pic of the megacity, which had this very large central structure I think.

Were their tiers and wall separating the poor from the rich? I think there were. Each had a different level of effort put into making them livable, but all of them had mandatory cleanliness levels they had to maintain.

Was there an idea for a guy whose job was doing this? Or was that a Rat King type person who lives in the sewers? I don't remember much about it other than impressions.
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>>78733034
Well the tiered design was never finalized, just thrown out there in concept. It needs more work to really iron out the details of each level. And there was a chess themed administration structure that Mindwipe threw out there that had some work done on it but again nothing was finalized except a few things.
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>>78733034
>>78733150
Plana's palace however was finished.
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>>78733150
The concept is there, but the walls are a bit too high to really be totally functional. They'd block out too much sun at that height and it'd be difficult for patrols on top of them to spot anyone climbing the things.

So her personal castle has its own tiers surrounding it separate from the city? Maybe that's where the snobby shit eating aristocrats all live and the city is where actual work gets done.
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>>78733359
I'm not really too keen on the tiers idea, at least the way it's presented in that illustration. If there must be tiers it should be like Midgar or Hengsha. Instead of a bunch of multilayered things it should have maybe 2 elevated layers. Really a sort of hive setup would best so you can maximize all the area you have. Plana's palace itself is separated from the main city on it's own elevated area.
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>>78734137
A hive set up?

Like a beehive? Different combs are different blocks?
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>>78734275
Like a hexagonal grid structure with interconnected buildings via skybridges. Makes it super easy for a city planner and enables a lot of quick, easy travel throughout the city.
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>>78734476
Sounds dreary and cold.

Also probably a bit more than they'd be capable of in post-apoc.
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>>78734972
>dreary and cold

It sounds like an actual futuristic city that is designed to accomodate several million people. Plus it's a leftover that avoided total destruction, they've just added a bit of what they can manage.
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>>78735324
Futuristic cities always look dark to me, like it's always overcast and raining over them without exception.

If it's using a hive-type structure than it should be making us of solar power where every window is equipped with internal solar cells.
I don't think Mad Max gasoline rules are in effect, so they must be getting power from somewhere else and this seems likely.

It'd also make collateral damage to the city a necessity to actually shut it down.
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>>78736174
Well as far as power goes you could just slope the a lot of the tops of the skyscrapers and plaster them with solar panels. Would also give the buildings more of a shiny look. But then again it's the future so you can go a little crazy. Maybe a big underground geothermal power station to set up a lava area, or hydro electric stuff.
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>>78736616
A large power plant would be a primary target for any attackers, though they probably are arrogant enough to think no one would ever attack them head on.

This sort've stuff would only ever play a role in one of the final issues where they're actually fighting the megacity.
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>>78736858
>This sort've stuff would only ever play a role in one of the final issues

Even if the screen time is small, stuff like this needs to be hashed out. Keep in mind that the megacity is right next to Yellowstone, so there's plenty of places to hide things outside of the actual city proper in dense forests and the like.
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>>78737595
OK, yeah, didn't know it's next to Yellowstone.

That is a really terrible place to build a city unless it was built to keep that blind pimple of a super volcano from exploding, could add another reason to not destroy the city, or be a self-destruct feature where the whole thing goes up in a pillar of lava.

Lava lake power plant sounds probable now.
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