The lesson we can all take away is, Stick with Batman. Other images just don't seem to work for these threads.
So... WORK ON YOUR ART.
It's me again. Here's what is probably the final animation model for that flash series I've been working on. I'm very happy with it.
This is coming along very well. Are you planning on using gradients and blurs on the crystal like what you're doing with the background? I feel like the clarity and contrast of the lines on the crystal betrays it's depth.
I have no idea if I'm complicating things when it comes to sketches. I draw forms clipping into other forms for every single detail, yet I see sketches like >>78605202 where the thumbnails aren't nearly as complicated.
Do I just not understand how to draw in 3D?
These look fun.
When you are just starting out you'll probably need more complicated construction. When you gain some confidence your sketching will get simpler and faster as well.
Sure anything you're working on.
>Start a thread on New Year's Eve
>dies on New Years Day when everyone hung over on an empty board
I thought the fat batwoman was funny, but I guess we only draw serious art not funnies.
Sorry if this isn't the right place for this, but do any of you art guys wanna hook up and take a look at some of my scripts? I'm always impressed by the talent in these threads, and since I'm trying to make my way in the small press as a writer, maybe one of you fancies working on a project together?
I'm more than happy to pay for your services.
He looks trippy.
Personally, I don't like how his feet are pointed inward.
I associate that with girls, because that's simple way of feminizing a posture to make the character look more demure and child like.
You can reach me on this email: email@example.com
At the moment, I'm looking to self-publish something online, probably to the Amazon Kindle Store. It's a very short science-fiction comedy story about a cow abducted by aliens.
Are you looking for comic book art, with panels and word balloons or just illustration?
Also since you are actually paying, if you wanna get flooded with applicants try the DeviantArt forums too.
>be writefag that can barely draw
>want to start a comic strip
>talk to some artists about collaborating
>people seriously expect me to pay them over £50 for 4 panels of art
Guess I'll just try to get better at drawing instead...
I didnt expect them to work for free, I offered to pay and one of them wanted $150 dollars per strip, that's damn near the starting page rate for big 2 comics.
I'd at least understand if they were big names with a following or if it was a extremely detailed work.
I'll do it for 50$ a strip.
What kind of style are you looking for, webcomicy Penny Arcade, generic animu, Peter Parker Spiderman newspaper strips?
Put up a strip script and what you want, and I'll draw some sketch comps, you can hire me if you like it.
It'll beat drawing furry porn.
It depends on the panels but think of it this way.
Take there usual price. Now multiply that by the amount of panels you need.
If you have 10 panels in a page, that's 10 pictures really.
I'd quite like a webcomicy look for my strip, I've always found that look quite appealing for more comedic stories. $50 sounds more than fair -- please do contact me on the above email address to discuss all the details and run your eyes over the script, if you'd like.
I'm really keen to collaborate and self-publish!
>I'll do it for 50$ a strip
And is that for just pencils?
>What kind of style are you looking for, webcomicy Penny Arcade, generic animu, Peter Parker Spiderman newspaper strips?
A cartoon sort of style is my only preference, but realistically I'm fine with whatever works.
>Put up a strip script and what you want, and I'll draw some sketch comps, you can hire me if you like it.
You got an email address? I don't like posting my ideas online.
I am going over the crystal with softer lines to make it feel a bit more "Real" and less graphic, but I don'g want to lose that sharpness completely. Doubtless I'll have to give it another pass afterward.
>200 word essay due tomorrow
>drawing weird bug erotica
Drew this stuff for a little /tg/ project that is being worked on.
And this because I got a haircut and drew myself with a haircut that had nothing to do with what I got.
Working out character/style design for the next round in a comic tournament... progress is slow but satisfying so far...
There's some inspiration from him. Mostly because I look at how he simplifies things to make them easier to read.
Also page composition.
I also knew that using a house like this was very mignola but it's a small comic for fun so I don't really give a hoot.
Haven't drawn anything in at least 7 months or more, but I just watched all of game of thrones for the first time and decided to try out a quickish sketch of Drogon.
These look very lively. I sense you have some trouble with the arms though. Try playing around with the arms till you feel comfortable with them. Starting from the shoulders: could they be even further back or would they better hunched further forward?
The details look good, but the drawing is pretty disporpotionate/wonky. I recommend learning construction drawing for more solid proportions.
Paypal doesn't need to know exactly what you're drawing.
I love being a nerd and enjoy my freetime doing this kind of drawings!
The arms look like that because she is slouching, so if you roll your shoulders up it kind of looks like you have no neck.
Unless you are talking about the one to the left, in which case that's just the first sketch, and the first sketch is always horrible since I can never making anything look like how I want the first time...
Now my foreshortening with limbs definitely could use some work... I understand the concept, but it never look right to me.
You seem to understand the principal. The problem is towards the end you're forcing the perspective a bit too much. Like it seems you want to badly have the limb in a normals 3/4angles and so write around the wrist the foreshortening starts falling apart. Not that I blame you. It can be tricky.
Just scanned in this pic of Ladydevimon I've been working on and will begin the lineart tomorrow.
I'm not the best at perspective either so my advice might not be the best. But the angle you've drawn the fist at is basically straight. Making it not mach the Flow of the drawing with anything tilted to the left. Also the top of the fist is facing us, the viewer making it a appear as if they're pointing their fist somewhat towards the camera. Once again I may be wrong. I'm not particularly an expert at this subject.
Fair enough. Here's just something I noticed that looked a little off.
He probably learned the fundementals, worked on his gesture, shading, proportions and anatomy instead of just freestyling it. Lots of hard work can work wonders, especially when you're steered in the right direction.
Yer not drawing horny enough, no faps for you until you improve.
Copying photos, not tracing... of country singers.
Animu and country music, quite the bastion of American culture.
what do you guys think of using references?
Famous artist do it all the time.
It's literally the best way to learn how to draw, and definitely a good way to figure out a shape if you're having trouble. While it's important to be able to draw from your imagination, Drawing from life/using references is more than fine.
icon i'm working on for my portfolio blog, coming up with the design was the trickiest part because whenever I need an icon I literally just look for screencaps from something like Goof Troop or Fraggle Rock or what have you
i've kinda wanted to fix the bottom of this guy's coat because the original was clunky and hard to animate around...(the original was kinda entangled in his feet).
do you like any of these, if so, which? or have any better coat ideas? hmm hmm
You obviously need to do studies when getting gud.
As for referencing when doing finished stuff, that's up to the artist.
If you draw furry porn or comic books you can't rely on reference too much. (You can't go looking up references of bodybuilders doing triple backflips all the time.)
A regular illustrator can probably rely on drawing from ref a lot more.
on second thought i kinda like this......?
does this one look better?
I'm afraid I don't follow you. Nevertheless, here's an update.
The last thing I've completed.
A lot of people seem to like it.
dumping some latest art, some commissions and some fanart
Painting my waifu
Really like these. Nice job.
I was making some sketches about a man who is angry at paladins.
Fuck it, might as well post my very slow progress.
>tfw your hand shakes like you have stage 4 Parkinson's every time you try to draw and you aren't even as good as row 1
I consider copying photos and from life to be good for practice but it's pretty fucking hack-y to do it in your actual work that you're selling. I lost so much respect for Rockwell when I learned that he literally just copied photos directly. That's just photography, not painting.
Cheat senpai, use brush stabilizers.
>having respect for commercial hacks
>doesn't know photo refs are used EVERYWHERE and by EVERYONE
Ah, sweet summer child
A large part of the Western art tradition was the illusion of life a master painter could create.
That magical quality turned slowly into irreverent novelty as photography developed into the definitive standard for representing reality.
It's up to you to use photos, and now digital tech as part of your toolset.
Well, here's a sketch.
I must have had The Criminal Code on my mind at the time. Sorry for the awkward angle.
By copied do you mean he like traced them? Because even if he's drawing reference from actual photos, as long as the values and anatomy and shit is decent I still think that's an accomplishment. Lord knows I can't get that shit to look good reference or not.
Who are you? I like you. Give me links.
it's ok if it's tumblr, I won't tell nobody
I'm sad that I've never looked at these threads before. I was expecting cringeworthy donut steel shit, but everybody here is actually good.
and here's another sketch
I call it Suitcase Man
First of all, I am totally jelly on >>78628040 and that dude is infinitely better than I am.
She obviously uses photo references for each of the better ones on the list, and I don't know why, but I know from experience that there are people who can't do figure drawing, or drawing from head for shit, but can copy a photo 1:1 perfectly. And I have no clue about how that works.
>can't do figure drawing, or drawing from head for shit, but can copy a photo 1:1 perfectly.
Different aspect of eye hand coordination and muscle memory.
To draw comics or illustration you must adept at everything.
Ironic that even the best illustrators are seen as hacks cause capeshit while plebs praise bored girls who learned to copy head-shots of movie/rock stars REAL GUD.
Ironic that even the best illustrators are seen as hacks cause capeshit while plebs praise bored girls who learned to copy head-shots of movie/rock stars REAL GUD.
And that's the reason why I hate everything
Contributing, even though its more of a /v/ thing.
And I finished the Meowth. Some of the faces are a little morph-y, so I might try again but use Gumball and make an expression sheet with him.
I dunno if either of you or anyone else here are still looking for a commission artist but I've been looking to contribute to some projects recently for some extra income and would be happy to do as much comission work as needed. you can see some of my character work here.
None of these pieces took more than a day for me to complete so you can expect a very fast completion time. I can be reached at Duplexidemic@gmail.com if anyone is interested in collaborating.
I haven't drawn too much Pokemon in awhile, but I think probably Gengar to draw. Typhlosion is my favorite Pokemon in general.
Looked up a video of jim lee drawing batman and got this out of it
1. Learn how to take a photo, resize, clean up, shit's simple
2. It's a fucking doodle, m8, I mean what the fuck. Go draw 1000 more of this, seriously.
3. DON'T FUCKING POST EVERY SINGLE FUCKING DOODLE YOU EVER DRAW YOU NEEDY FUCK JESUS
4. Draw some different types of people, girls, dude, big dudes, old bitches, dogs and shit, not the same emo dark eyed faggots.
5. Work on your fundamentals, read art books, watch tuts, practice. If that shit's too hard just redraw the same fucking guy obsessively over and over until it's the only thing you can draw, ooh la la, it's you frikking "style."
6. Have fun.
That's okay, but capeshit artists drawing 3/4 head sketches in 2 minutes at conventions is the worst possible thing you should consider imitating.
1) Art takes time and thought. These portraits at cons are awful (aside of the value of "this popular artist sketched this for me") and they're entirely mechanical.
2) Drawing heads like that is something you really want to avoid to "practice" on. Draw full figures with more interesting head positions, and their hands visible.
how do you guys do it every day? I just can't bring myself to draw anymore
I hate it
there's always one guy who hates everything I do and tells me I'm garbage/should kill myself literally every time I post something
and behind him is a crowd of people who just click "like" and don't say anything else
I tired getting better at realism, and it's all too stiff
anything I draw with any stylization at all gets ignored/roasted
I can't find a fucking middle ground, and every single picture I draw looks like it was drawn by a different person
drawing makes me want to kill myself, but it's the only thing I'm even half good at
Truly there is no greater test of patience than painting hair
>people who just click "like" and don't say anything else
You can be a social media whore or just take your time to fuckin' improve m8.
I know we live in the PLEBbook, TWATter age and shit and half of you wee lads know nothing else, but face it, drawing is just another skill that must be learned, line by line, image by image.
There is no SHORT CUTS, no magic formula, no easy way, only brute force attacks, day by day.
It's a siege, not blitzkrieg.
Can you imagine a musician posting 200 videos of themselves strumming first chords they learned?
A writer filing up their blog with two paragraph beginnings of unfinished stories, and whinging about not getting enough positive feedback?
YOU WANT FUCKING UPVOTES, YOU WANT LIKES, YOU WANT RETWITS AND "FANS?"
PLAY THE FUCKING GAME, DRAW THE POPULAR CHARACTERS, FOLLOW DANK MEMES, CREATE DRAMA, HAVE GARBAGE OPINIONS ON TRENDING SHIT.
REBLOG, KISS ASS, ALWAYS FUCKING SMILE, "HE WAS A GOOD FRIEND"
Look, we draw, we create, and doing so we expose ourselves to ridicule, shame, and fear.
But there is hope, joy and love, in sharing ourselves with the whole world, it's like those fucking sea turtle eggs hatching on the beach, each little fucker bumbling his way to sea, to home.
It is the chance we all take, in life as in art.
Remember you are not alone, it is a journey a hundred thousand have taken before and a hundred thousand will in future.
The only person you are competing is yourself.
I'm out of cliches, I'll bump this bitch out of page 9 now.
Draw for yourself, friend. It might be better for you to stop posting for a while and study on your own. Handling criticism is something you can't avoid, but if it's making you hate your art it can't hurt to shut yourself off from it a little.
What's important is that you can appreciate your progress because you can see it more than anyone else.
>abrasively and non-constructively criticized
I'm afraid, this will never not happen, to anyone, least of all on 4chan.
What's he'd saying, whilst being an ass about it, is for you to get some more experience under your belt, as it were.
Might I suggest you draw, let us say ~10 more figures and post the best one here again?
Or perhaps a collage of recent work all together so we may better judge your work in context.
Showing improvements between works, no matter how minuscule, may be far better conducive to encouraging further practice than one single drawing.
I used to draw a lot as a kid until middle school and then would draw very occasionally since then. I'm now 23 and for years I've wanted to get back into drawing and have decided to just jump in and do a few drawings every day. This is from Day 1, a quick drawing of a bust in my room. Thoughts?
I started cleaning up but stopped because I feel like I should focus on actually drawing and cleanliness will come later.
Right side is obviously me, also from yesterday.
I GOT YOU F.AM
And a quick sketch from this morning based on some awesome art from Bruce Timm. Any recommendations on a drawing app on an Android tablet? I'm also curious about inexpensive courses on art that you all would recommend.
Autodesk sketchbook would be the best.
You can buy or pirate.
Type in Gumroad on a torrent search engine.
Also Gnomon though they are mostly 3D.
There are a ton of good shit on youtube as well, just search for the type of art you wanna learn about and don't forget to watch x2 faster for longer vids.
They sketches look good, maybe you wanna brush up on your line-work before going to colors, but looks like you wanna paint more then draw, you might wanna look up "speed-painting."
The Elvgren set demonstrates well what using references is about. He didn't simply copy a photo or even copy the pose. He used the reference to better understand his subject matter and then used that knowledge to create the picture.
Everyone in the professional world who isn't doing super stylized stuff uses reference, period.
5000 hours in FireAlpaca
I know it's fanart, but I'm proud of it
semi Perfect Blue fanart as well
It can work, I'm just not that good.
Deviant Art ID I did for myself
>tfw I made a new years resolution to draw something, even if only a scribble, a day
So far, so good. I almost failed on the second, though. Had like 2 minutes until 12 o'clock.
Anywho, this is...a product of a interesting concept executed poorly. I took parts from animals I liked and stuck them all together making a cheap looking furry hooker. Needs revising. Bat ears and lizard heads don't blend so good.
Some studies from this evening.
>tfw jury duty tomorrow
I'll get plenty of sketching done, at least.
exactly this. i can draw almost any heroine/hero using the exact same headstyle. and you'll find jim lee, adam hughes, marc silvestri, etc etc using the exact same method. do a search for _____ con sketch and prove me wrong.
if you want to learn how it's done (and by a terrible artist) look up cartoon block on youtube
Working on a D&D illustration for my friend and his group fighting monsters in his current campaign. First time REALLY trying to paint. Spent a good long while painting this and trying to get the subtleties right.
No idea why He wanted it 8.5x11 size....
Download Paint Tool Sai, it's like 10MB. like nothing, and try it.
It retards & delays the brush strokes and evens it out so you can achieve finer lines on a tablet without nervous hand jitters.
It's excellent for inking.
But it also slows your pace IMO, I prefer my own fast raggitty lines to a smooth one.
have you seen how David Finch and Freddie Williams use photoshop with their Cintiq to digitally ink? is that because of lazy mouse? currently i have to bring everything into Manga Studio in order to get clean lines.
that, or print it out to scale, and lightbox it and ink it myself on board.
I went from using gimps to medibang paint pro. I like this program but I want to make my future work look less ms paint-ish.
this is the last thing i drew in manga studio
Sure, I guess.
But I wouldn't recommend it over Sai as a drawing/painting app.
It is, like PS, meant for photography.
Sai, or Kritas, or Manga Studio is far far better in comic book art creation than Gimp or even PS, though of course PS has since become a monster with Adobe shoving everything in that already bloated beast.
Sai isn't free, btw, license cost like $50.
Oh, thanks. Didn't know Sai wasn't free. But what if I work on my art at a pixel detail and don't use anti aliasing. Would something like Sai, Krita, or manga studios still be better for that sorta thing?
Why does the model change so radically with each expression? They all look like separate cats. At least when bugs Bunny pulls a face you can tell it's still the same character. Decent work though.
If you mean Pixel Art, for doing game art and animations, the best would be Graphic Gale, though most people use PS for that these days since the trendy hipster indie game art isn't very detailed.
Sai, Krita, or manga studios was developed for higher resolution print illustration, you can use it for pixel stuff perfectly fine, but I'd rate PS, Gimp, and Graphic Gale (and other dedicated pixel art apps) because of their wider functionality.
You might also want to check out Mischief, it's a vector based resolution independent drawing/painting app.
I got stuck.
First she was suppose to be on a flower with leaves covering her, and then I was like... wait that look right, and now I don't know what to do a background and forgot draw the leaves on her.
Also I cannot draw legs bent in worth shit.
I posted the digital version of this page before but ended up hating it so I redid it traditionally
http://imgur.com/IUgSKHT <- "original"
Rough is right, ow.
Learn to not chicken sketch, also pink on white kills. Try a grey background.
Man don't be a fuck
Then get on drawing the leaves- she looks nice and organic still and the legs don't look bad at all. If anything I take issue with the mouth placement but I am unfamiliar with the sytle. The background seems nicely placed but perspective wise should be shifted "Down" more
Seem a bit stiff, and the arms(mainly her left) is a bit off. However your lines are nice, your values are nice, face is well proportioned and the texture of the pants are nice. It's a WIP so I can't say much about your lighting and shading.
I like it.
here's a BG for a point and click game project.
OBVS a draft kinda but what are your thoughts? (boat is placeholder for sprite)
anything i should change?
Looks pretty cute. Reconsider the size of things for the next BG. The sky could take larger space (unless you aimed for a more cramped, intimate feel for this screen). Are the mine-hill-things ideal size? You know the best. The sign is bit too big, I think. Also I'm not really fond of the text. It looks like it's hand drawn (did some character use a giant brush on it?) Maybe the text could be bolder.
Looks pretty refined. The hair and top look good, but the shadowing on especially her legs seem rather bland. Add more light or darker shadows for contrast.
A good way to see the values since the beginning is by filling the base layout with gray.
>A good way to see the values since the beginning is by filling the base layout with gray.
Thanks for the advice. I've been trying to use more hatching to do my halftones. Should I just make a layer with a grey fill or make a layer that has enough hatching to be a grey fill?
I haven't really tried rastering and halftones. Better google it out.
For learning, using gray background and using different shades of gray to test out shadows can be useful, atleast.
Just finished this up, satisfied with how it looks for now.
Yea, it's a Webley-Fosbery Automatic. As for the shirt, it's probably not the best design, I agree.
Just a character design practice.
I probably should have, but I wasn't planning on drawing a background so I just sort of did it like this.
Not for a webcomic, and as for if I could produce this type of work for one quickly, I don't know as I haven't tried. Why do you ask?
I call him Broc the boxer because he's got broccoli hair. I'm trying to learn how to paint and having huge trouble with it... I'm not really sure how and there aren't any tutorials for painting in the program Krita
drew a battle wizard on break at work today. Initially intended her to be a character for a comic I've been allegedly working on for the past... 5 years? But I'm apparently just kidding myself. It's just a character, the comic is never going to happen at this rate.
I made some characters from Undermeme today.
Sorry for the shitty camera quality.