Superman thread

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Flashpoint Paradox is so hopelessly edgy it makes me feel sad for supes

>Crash lands on an alien planet after Krypton blows up
>The asshole human government locks him in a lead cell full of bright light making him anorexic and weak

What the fuck was up with the writing team that day? Does someone have a massive hate boner for Supes?

>>78569364
>Artists?

Anyone but Ross.

>>78569403
I wouldn't call it anti supes, its sort of an elseworld anyway isn't it?

>>78569403
Maybe they did it to show how bleak the world would be without Superman? Just look at Kingdom Come; that was depressing as fuck.

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I love TAS growing up. DCAU's og supes is probably my favorite Superman, if not one of my favorite super heroes in general. The only comics I've read were Doomsday and All Star, and I must admit to being disappointed with both. All Star > Doomsday for sure, but it was still pretty "okay," by my opinion. I read All Star because people seem to point to it as quintessential Superman, and Doomsday because I saw it on sale for $8 and thought, "it was chosen to be animated; surely it's good..."

What are other trades I should try? Collections are good too; if it's a classic/staple era/run.

Plus I kind of scorn All Star because anyone who wants to argue that Superman is OP will usually point to it and gloss over that whole thing about him being super-charged to the point that it was slowly killing him.

>>78569364
>Animations?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2WVlmNqMMs

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Movie
> Man of Steel (2013)
Outfit
> Mix of the MOS & BVS suits, use the stronger colors and engravings of bvs, but the round buckle of mos.

Artist
> Lee Bermejo

>>78569601
My nigga. Tim Daly is STILL the voice of Superman to me.

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>>78569876
>Lee Bermejo

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Did someone say superman thread?

>>78569364
How come Supes never uses his powers in tandem? Like he'll fly at a guy and then stop before he punches. OR he doesn't go full on ATATATATATATA mode. He should do it more often.

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>>78570129
>>78570096
I can't take it

>>78570216
I'm pretty sure he flies into people to tackle/punch/slam them like... all the time.

>>78569364
While Morrison and Waid are the GOAT besides the classic creatives, the best canon Supes remains Johns/Donner/Busiek/Gates/Woods era. (disregarding later New Krypton and Reing of the Doomsdays)

Superman and the Legion of Super-Heroes and Final Crisis: Legion of 3 Worlds ftw.

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I love this motherfucker

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>>78569364

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GOAT Supes strip

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>>78570383
Always inspires me to help people

>>78569364
I feel like 1988 Ruby Spears Superman doesn't get nearly enough recognition, especially for the super baby bumpers.

Which I can't find a clip of so here's the intro and Wonder Woman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxS_MT22mSk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSZeYzQbZyE

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Comfy Loeb run

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>>78570267
You mean whoever wrote this?

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>>78570545
And this?

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>>78570267
>>78570577
And this :(

>>78570577
God it's like the writers of Man of Steel looked at this and said...

>"I'm going to make the exact opposite moment of this!"

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Based Supes face

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Remember, be American, kids, Superman said so!

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Fuck it I'll post these too

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>>78570629
True, there was a billion better ways to use Supes' parents and they choose one with the emotional impact of a brick

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Here's hoping batman vs superman will make up for MOS

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>tfw you'll never share a bed with Clark

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>>78570096
>>78570129

Adventures of Superman by Ron Marz & Doc Shaner based on Iron Giant is awesome

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>>78570800

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Could someone explain to me the pull of Superman? Why is he so interesting to some/what makes him more than just "guy who can do everything?"

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Anyone inspired by Supes yet to start the new year with all your best? I am.

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>>78569601

Serect Identity & For All Seasons

>>78569364
I've been watching Legion of Superheroes, and I like that iteration of Superman.

>>78570545
>fucking Loebgirl redeemed

>>78570267
Secret origin a shit

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>>78570872
To me, it's cuz he can do anything, but he chooses instead to stick his neck out helping people.
Also this is all I have of Supes in my folder, it was a pleasure posting

>>78570937

Well good for you.

>>78570545
Supergirl looks like such a dumb bimbo in that run

>>78570800
>>78570813
I loved those issues, they were really full of heart

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>>78570631

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Superman in Gotham is just fantastic

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>>78571205

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SupesxCatwoman is adorable

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>>78570937

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>>78570414
Jesus, why was Wondy's theme so hip

>>78571666
I liked it

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>>78571700
I did too

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>>78569601
If you like the DCAU, you should check out the Superman Adventures books which are the comics put out to accompany TAS. I don't think it's in trades, however, but you can find it on a variety of sites for download.

There's a batch of collections of the Silver Age and Golden Age stories in a variety of way, some of the GA stuff is pretty different from TAS but not the SA stuff, so it really depends. Collected Editions blog spot is a good source for reviews of trades as is the Superman Homepage.

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In case anyone wants this.

>>78570872
I like seeing someone fight for truth and justice with the power to back it up. No matter how many bad guys there are, they won't be able to stop him from doing the right thing.

>>78571997
Thank you

>>78571919
>I don't think it's in trades

They have started collecting it actually. First trade came out two months ago

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>>78570319
Ah, All Star.

I think this divides people who can get emotional over a scene like this, which is probably the fan who have some connection to this type (Silver Age/Reevesverse/iconic role model) of idea of Superman and the reader/fan who wants a superhero/cape story.

>>78570800
The Flowers for Bizarro story and the art related one are also really good. These stories are collected in three trades that you can get in print or digital and are over-all solid to really great.

>>78572287
sweet

>>78570414
where can I watch these?
are they hidden on some corner of youtube perhaps?

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>>78570414
It's just not as classic (and considering they had more access to more modern tech to produce), they don't stand up as well as the The Fleischer Studios ones.

>>78570422
That's one of my favorite images - I am not too fond of the art on him here, though.

>>78570545
Superman and the LoSH is actually a great story and proof that, at one point in time, the Cereal King really had a good imagination and a way of bending and using the existing mythos with whatever current story he (and DC) wanted to tell, something he doesn't quite mange as well since around Blackest Night.

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>>78571277

>>78569420
>not liking Ross
You can't kill yourself fast enough.

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>>78570813
I'm not a fan with the forced relationship, even if it was only a few panels, but the Convergence Superboy and the LoSH's also had a lot of heartfelt moments.

>>78570925
You mean the Kal-El that Brainy has a major man-crush for?

>>78572792
That had Clark/Ayla, right? Hard to think of a worse ship

>>78572834
Yeah. But he's Superman! Who wouldn't? :^)

>>78572855
Yeah, and I wasn't sure why that, versus someone who might make more sense, or even simply not to include it -- or just make it a tight friendship/trust versus the romance potential.

>>78572856
I can't stand the opening title credit music, it just dates that show way more than the art ever could. But the episode where Brainy dreams about Superboy is just so Fractured Fairy Tales.

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>>78572989

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>>78573003

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>>78573045

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For the Man Who Has Everything is probably my favorite Superman story and will probably remain that.

I also really enjoy the take on the character in DKR and DK2 even though it is a very a-typical one.

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>>78573060

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>>78573077

>>78573066
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV1giYzoo-c

They did a pretty bang on interpretation of it for Justice League Unlimited.

>>78573134
I read somewhere that episode is on record as the only adaptation of his work Alan Moore doesn't dislike.

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>>78573091

>>78573066

This one is probably something that got improved up by being animated >>78573134
, it streamlined the story a bit. Although I am sorry that they cut out Jason or didn't replace him with Dick (most people would not have known it should/would have been Jason).

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>>78573213

>>78572580
they're uploaded on youtube by WB if you want to pay for it

>>78572690
well Fleischer was movies this was TV and came out 4 years before DCAU

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I can't wait for batfags to get absolutely BTFO by Supes in 2 months.

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>>78573165
>>78573153
>>78573134
>>78573066
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnCbFRgRWJE

>>78573134
met dave gibbons recently and asked him about it, he liked it and said while it was simplified it kept the core theme of the story

I didnt like the adaptation

>>78573165
They couldn't use any Robin because of the Batembargo.

It was good enough for what it was, but I don't know. Wouldn't say it was better.

>>78569364
Superman 64 was literally the only thing he's in that I truly hated. Even the Returns game had some redeeming features.

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>>78573502

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>>78573515

>>78573244
I'd really rather not.

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>>78573630

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>>78573646

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>>78573610

>>78570344
> ManOfSteel.jpg

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>>78573764

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>>78573476
I really liked this scene. It shows what superheroes should all be about; even if their quest is futile, they should at least try.

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>>78573785

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>>78573800

>>78573659
is that miracle drug by u2

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>>78573903

>>78573816
This make no sense considering that Barry is not Quicksilver

>>78573918
Morrison JLA was truly one of the best

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>>78574018

>>78573538
I'm sure you can find a torrent of it somewhere, maybe a DL

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>>78574030

>>78571277
Why did they model Superman off of Eliot Rodger in this pic?

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>>78574087

>>78573538
>>78572580
so this is weird, someone combined all the episodes into one giant mp4

http://veehd.com/video/4900599_Superman-1988-Ruby-Spears-Complete-Animated-Series-5-2-hrs-mp4

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>>78574405

>>78574376
This is the kind of stuff I wish I could have more of. Where can I get it?

>>78574436
>>78574420
>>78574405
>>78574391
You know, part of me really thinks that Morrison was right, Superman is an idea that goes beyond comics

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>>78574485

>>78574391
Action 800 was 10/10

>>78572977
I liked the opening music. It sounds very heroic, and fits with the theme of the show. I don't get how it dates it though.

>>78574591
What's this from? I like the writing.

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>>78574798

>>78574488
That's one of the Superman Adventures we were talking about at the start of the thread. You can tell because he's modeled on the same art as the DCAU/TAS Supes.

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>>78575042

Is the character of Superman deminished by being an alien?

He's not a man at all, so how can he really represent the best a man can be? How can he inspire us to greatness?

What if he looked nothing like a human? It's really a pretty big coincidence that he does, when you look at the green lantern aliens and see that, aside from kryptonians, really no other aliens look remotely like humans.

If he looked like a giant bug would we still be able to look up to him as something to achieve?

>>78575114
>so how can he really represent the best a man can be?
he has great power. he strives to use that power for the betterment of mankind rather than for selfish gain. His being an alien does not diminish his altruism.

>>78575205
Maybe he's only so altruistic because his brain works differently

Maybe humans are literally not capable of his kind of selfless do-gooding

see the problem here?

>>78575114
That's a very Luthor way of thinking. That the origin of a being is the end all be all of their entire existence.

The message has always been "inspiration through action." A compassionate hand offered in a time of need, a shield in a time of danger, hope when there is nothing but darkness.

If a kind being sought to offer their incredible gifts to the entire species without need of payment or worship or servitude, could we as a species look past their outward appearance and focus only on the good that's there?

That's the real question, can we be more than we are and accept that good can come from anyone, anywhere, anytime, regardless?

>>78575114
>Is the character of Superman deminished by being an alien?
75 plus years he has existed this has been asked and answered again and again . what the hell do you think.

>>78575280
I think it is, that it would be much more inspiring if he were actually a human with powers doing the things he does

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>>78575114
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>>78574503
Yeah, there's just so many good variations on Jonathan and Martha and Clark's upbringing; on how that provides his moral center and certainty in himself that was missing in large chunks of MoS and are missing in many other stories they are trying to tell in the past few years.

>>78575322
>>78575266
>>78575114

Superman's alien origin was an extrapolation of the immigrant experience. Many children of the 30's were transplanted into the US themselves, a brand new country may as well be an alien planet when you're that young. So is it still relevant?

A child from one world, raised by another's culture, trying to understand his place in the latter and rediscover the meaning of the former. You're goddamn right that's still relevant.

>>78574608
I'm talking about the Legion of Superheroes animated show and their late 80s disco cross with metal music? I think you are thinking of something else....

>>78574701
This was a great story.

>>78574813
It's All Star Superman, issue 6. I'm not the poster, I had to check myself but I was pretty sure due to the artwork.

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>>78575528
> Clark waers this the rest of the time

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>>78575785

>>78575655
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctX5cQ1epKI

This was what I was thinking of. Is there more than one adaptation of legion of superheroes?

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>>78575062
There was so little to really like in this run, that some of this stuff really stands out.

>>78575108
Have to go walk the dog, he's giving me the death glare, but what is this from? You've actually pulled out something that stumped me.

>>78575266
You've gotten better answers, but here >>78575269 you are pointed to the crux of much of this: can we look past outward appearance and focus only on the good? That's a very basic question and just think that we arrive at it from reading a comic book. That is in the inherent value of Superman.

>>78574231
Super Baby is at 20min

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>>78570414
>mfw I had no idea Superman had a cartoon in the eighties until this very moment

I always thought Lois and Clark was the first TV adaptation of post-COIE Supes.

My mind is blown.

>>78575857
Yes same one. We just have different tastes. I just found it too fast paced and high energy, as compared to say John Williams or the TAS soundtrack.

>>78575952
written by Marv Wolfman as well, there's a download link in the thread

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we need more golden age style supes in this thread

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>>78576818

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>>78576827

>>78574061
This speech would fit really well following the events of MoS.

Anyone remember that one page where superman is looking at a computer of all the people who had died?
And he felt really guilty about all the people he couldn't save.

What run was that from? I can't remember and it's killing me.

>>78570872
hmmm, imagine a superhero that is genuinly good and from there on spiral ideas what that superhero would do and keep drawing comics of those ideas for the next 80 years...
Its a bit of a boring idea but in this age of necksnapping and killing millions to save billions its kind of unique to see a hero that legitimately saves people.
I would also argue that Superman constantly inspires people to be better than themselves but that is a discussion for another thread

>>78570872
He's an idea that transcends his medium, the man who will never let you down, what we should all aspire to be. You don't need powers to be Superman, just a good heart.

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>>78569876

>Stories
Kingdom Come

>Animations
STAS, although there's not a whole lot of good one sot choose from

>Movies
Man of Steel
I know I have shit taste, but I just like seeing Superman getting some worthy fight scenes and that scene where he destroys the world engine is Superman af
>Writers
Johns maybe? I don't know, I am a shitty comic book fan so I'm not all caught up on writer names

Artists>
Aaron fucking Kuder, nigger

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> mfw Superfamily isn't prolific as the Batfamily

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>>78577698

>>78570872
He can do anything he wants, but all he wants to do is help people

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>Stories
Secret Identity > Birthright > For All Seasons > Man Who Has Everything > Lex Luthor: MoS

>Animation
STAS

>Movies
Man of Steel

>Writers
Geoff Johns. My top five stories are non-Geoff Johns, but Johns has written a lot of Superman and all of it is consistently great.

>Artists
Jason Fabok

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Anyone like edgy Supes?

It's hard for me to love the curren iteration of Superman... It just feels like they're trying to whittle out all the things that made him human, relatable, an at heart down to earth kinda guy who happens to become embroiled in cosmic level events.

Is there anything I can do beside retreat into the old books? Has new Superman any of those moments I can look to?

>>78576848
>criminal fucking shits

>>78579369
the only nu52 supes I've read is Morrisons run and the first bats/supes arc and he seemed super human in those

>>78578938
Hey, it's Calamity Jane.

Byrnes run is the GOAT run for me, great golden age stuff with some silver age elements made the definitive modern superman.

In johns run I missed superman fucking with thugs by scaring the shit out of them

>>78579290
He's okay, he still has a heart of gold in there

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Tiny Supes and tiny Bats

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Anybody read this? It's bretty gud.

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>>78579369
I think Pak's Action Comics has a lot of those moments, and Johns' Superman did too

I really, really liked the first few issues of Pak's Truth stuff but boy did that go horribly off the rails

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>>78581125

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>>78581144

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Also I liked that he was pretty pumped to do regular human stuff that he didn't normally get to experience, like eating a burrito or drinking with his JL buddies

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I recently rewatched all the live action Superman films and I would rank them in descending order of quality and personal enjoyment thusly:

1. Man of Steel
2. Superman Returns
3. Superman
4. Superman II (Donner cut)
5. Superman II (Lester cut)
6. Superman III
7. Superman IV: The Quest for Peace

If I were to include Supergirl I'd probably rank it above Superman IV.

>>78581076
No, why do u like it?

What's the difference between Superman's solo series and action comics?

>>78581201
How about the animated movies? Here's mine.

1. Vs The Elite
2. All-Star
3. Unbound
4. Doomsday
5. Brainiac Attacks

>>78573952
AB-solutely.

>>78581162
Damn. This sounds like fun. This is the "Truth" storyline?

>>78581732
I've only seen the first 2, how are the last 3?

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I know people on this board have mentioned Joe Kelly's work and Joe Casey's Superman stories as being great for the character.

Does anyone remember Steven Seagle's Superman run? I don't remember much from it. I have to find it in my stash and dust it off to re-read it, but I remember liking it. Anyone else?

Pic unrelated.

>>78581898
Yeah, started in Action Comics 41. Went downhill after 44 or so unfortunately

>>78581683
Different writers, different supporting cast, usually different story focus

>>78581898
>>78582012
The ultimate Truth experience so far is the first arc of Action followed by the second arc of Superman.

Only time will tell whose finale is best.

>>78582152
Pretty much, when Action got bad Superman improved

I kind of get the feeling Pak had to suddenly re-write a lot of Action because it real weird real fast

>>78581660
Its basically a Golden Age Superman story focused on Clark's early years. I like when stories focus on that stage of his life.

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>>78576818
>>78576827

>>78583763
Good

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>>78570656
Superman also said this.

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>>78569364

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>>78585318
>based Kyle and Supes

>>78585421
Thank you

>>78584417
To be fair though, it's not like they were Japanese expats in America.

>>78575062
I almost cried...

>>78569403
>Does someone have a massive hate boner for Supes?
Who is DC/WB?

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If they remade the Superman vs Muhammad Ali story for the 21st century, who would Superman fight?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ak92QMGvvo

Nobody ever posts the best Supes theme.

>>78570414
I watched the whole series and really enjoyed myself. Clark was so fucking dorky and cute, the baby/flash back moments were top tier and the writing wasn't bad at all. It's sad it's a relatively unknown show but at least it was something.

>>78570629
They looked at the character himself and did the opposite of everything. That's why I'm hoping this Superman turns out to be Bizarro.

>>78577142
I think that was a fan comic on Tumblr. It didn't have any dialogue of I remember correctly.

>>78569364
should have started with this, OP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebXB0lBoaQ0

>>78590688
Op here, you are correct, damn

My favourite runs are the original Siegel-Shuster and the Byrne-Superman council one.
As for stories, my favourite are Whats so funny..., All-star,Grounded-Red Son,Earth 1, Peace on Earth out of the top of my head.
>>78570872
>Why is he so interesting to some/what makes him more than just "guy who can do everything?"
Well, for starters, he can;t do everything as anyone who actually read a superman book can attest to.

And I like him because he has the best morals which, in good recent stories, are faced with the actual shit we have to deal with and how he deals with the dillema, even if he fails and resorts to killing like in the 90s or MoS is interesting. Also, how it shows how important upbringing is. He's not Super for being an alien with superpowers, he's super because of the values thaught to him by hard working righteous parents.

His rivalry with Luthor is also interesting since its the kind of rivalry where you sort of support both sides. Personally, I think humans should estimate ourselves higher than we do, so I can sort of relate to Luthor ( even if, of course, I prefer Superman to win since he's the right one n the end).

And when handled well, he can have good scifi stories.

Him being bro with Batman and not reusing villains as much as other heroes (save for Luthor) are plusses too. Specially since I dont really like most of his usual villain gallery aside from Lex.

>>78570895
Some blessed, beautiful anon was storytiming Secret Identity a few weeks (read: more like months probably) back and I wound up not getting to read all of it. Is that anon still here, willing to storytime? Does anyone else have it?

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>>78574391
>>78574405
>>78574420
>tfw I'm a cop and I do this
Hope it works if the time comes.

>>78572707
holy shit, why did they hire a One Piece artist to do fucking Superman?

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Does anybody have that single panel where Superman's talking to Lana or Lois or somebody, about how Lex Luthor left Earth to be a space pirate, and then tries to get them to put on gravity boots?

>>78570319
I wish there where more storiies with the DC 1million gold Prime Superman

>>78590163
Rhonda Rousey

>>78590163
JOHN "The Bull" Marsh

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http://snapjudgment.org/evil-d

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>>78575577
It's more relevant than ever. People seem to be forgetting that lesson these days.

Also, this is probably my favorite Superman page from the last few years

>>78571256
What is this from?

>>78593114
why on earth did they ever stop making Superman comics like this

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>>78593221
Imagine if instead of Pre-Convergence Superman, they brought Silver Age Superman to the New 52 universe and he was just this absurdly overpowered eccentric getting into wacky adventures.

>>78593290
we can dream, anon. we can dream...

>>78593290
>Silver Age Superman fights one of his modern day villains and keeps frustrating them by pulling powers out of his ass

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>>78569364
>Clark Kent©®™ AKA Kal-El©®™, Superman©®™, created by Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster meets Bruce Wayne©®™ AKA Batman©®™, created by Bill Finger and Bob Kane
>I Love bringing DC Comic Book Superheroes©®™ Together!
>This Kal-El©®™ Man of Steel©®™ Superman©®™ Has A Good Grip!
>You Should Not Pick a BATMAN v. SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE©®™ with this person
>Oh! MMMM! BOYS!?!©®™

What on earth did he mean by this?

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>>78593392
>Nu52 Clark has to do something in space for a week and asks Silver Age Supes to cover for him at work
>Supes spends the work week messing with Lois's head and giving Jimmy random superpowers

Does anyone have the pic of Supes punching Braniac so hard that several versions of him feel it or something to that effect?

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>>78594456
I got you, senpai

>>78571343
What is this from?

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>>78594626

>>78594627
Batman/Superman 14

>>78593412
>Bill Finger has top billing

It's a coincidence and nothing more.

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>>78594898

>>78594456
>>78594538
My Kryptonian nigga

>>78593091
DAT FLOW

When did you first learn about Superman?

Anyone have that short comic about the ghost of Krypto following Superman?

>>78594538
>>78575108
where are these from?

>>78590163
Manny Pacquiao.

Then Supes has to deal with the overwhelming Pinoy asshurt if he wins.

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Just saw these. The Superman and Aquaman figures are just too darling to pass up.

>>78575353
dang what is this from?

>>78590256
Yeah it was pretty great

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>>78577142
I've found it. Hiding in the depths of my hard drive.

Superman: All in a days work.

Superman can do anything, literally anything, but this really shows that he can't do everything.

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>>78601216
>but this really shows that he can't do everything.

He will never stop trying to, though.

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>>78592321
Here. Apologies for the memeshit, I couldn't find a version without.

>>78596262
When I was really little, I had a video tape with a bunch of old Fleischer Superman cartoons on it. Probably my first exposure to capes in general

>>78569601
I've also only read All Star as well as some stuff from the 75th Anniversary book but All Star sold me on it after the first few issues. About to start reading the Brainiac trade by Geoff Johns. More interested in Kelly's run but I am utterly lost on how to read his run even after realizing you have to read other writers and books. Never ask but if someone has a download link for that I'd be so eternally grateful.

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Would anybody happen to have this whole comic?

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Clark is a vegetarian in Superman: Birthright. <3

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>>78601511
That stuff about seeing souls is awesome and I'm glad it's come up a few other times too.

> Pic not really related, unless you can see the dbz fans and their anguished, buttblasted souls.

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>>78601511
I really see no problem with it. It's not like he's shitting on people who eat meat it's just that the man has so much compassion and empathy in his heart that he won't even eat meat. Why can't you be more like Captain America, anon?

Superman doesn't have to eat, he just does cuz he likes it

>>78584417
he never actually said that its just a propaganda
poster that says he did.

>>78601485
It's the Grant Morrison Action Comics runs but one of the backup stories he didn't write. I've been cleaning up so just saw this, did you want a link to it?

>>78596262
Probably when I was little from the Donner movies although I had probably read at least one comic book beforehand. My mom was really cool and she had a group of other mothers she traded with - so they swapped romance or western novels for themselves/husbands and comics for the kids. I read comics my entire life and never hit a store until college.

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>>78593611
because reasons?

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>>78593000
You need to read the Ron Marz story from the same run and the next to last (Strange Visitor). Those have some of my favorite pages.