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Why is this allowed?
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It's a bruised hand, what's the problem?
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What's wrong with old guys being half naked?
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>>68811706
Yeah I don't know how that got past the Disney censors. Now that I think about it the show gets away with alot of stuff
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>>68811706
I know, right?
Fuckin' Shriners taking over my TV.
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Dipper and the last episode of the first season had a bloody nose, and in the episode with zombies there was tons of gore and Stan storming in covered in green blood.
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>>68811983
All shriners are freemasons, and all freemasons are illuminati puppets. So this is more true than you think.
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Different censors give different amounts of fucks. Sometimes subtle innuendo won't even get past, sometimes an entire episode concerning the takeover of a city by a manic cult will only be banned because it contains strobe effects.
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yeah, how can a show be on hiatus for so long?
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>>68812692
>Soup & broth
>innuendo

I don't get it.
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>>68813732
Broth-L
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>>68813732
>Broth L
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>>68812692

Because of all the merchandising, Phineas and Ferb probably acts as a censor lightning rod for other Disney shows.
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Alex Hirsch himself said that Disney cares way more about sex and love stuff than violence.

There was going to be a mention of spin the bottle on a flyer and they shut it down immediately.
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wow, somebody got a scratch
call the fucking police
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>>68811735

Not bruised, it's bleeding. But I agree, what's the problem? It's just blood.
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>>68815629
>>68815653
>>68811735


It's a kids show, there's shouldn't be any blood at all. It's inappropriate for them to see. This is why we have tv censoring so this DOESNT get shown
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>>68815772
Is this one of those bait thingies?
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>>68815772
Slow down soccer mom. I don't think 4chan is the place for you.
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>>68815772
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That's why moms buy their kids Cowwadoody, right? To keep them away from these terrible Disney cartoons.
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>>68815772
EVERYONE POINT AND LAUGH AT THE BIG SISSY!
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>>68815629
Congratulations. You successfully pointed out the quote-unquote 'sarcasm' of OP's bait.
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>>68815772
Ironic retardation is still retardation.
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>>68815772

Uhha. I'd been watching rated R movies ever since I was five, this? This is barely anything at all. Just a quick shot of him bleeding from being cut with a pipe. You're acting as if his arm was ripped off and blood started shooting out of his arm stump. You must be trolling.
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>>68815772
>Kid cuts self and starts bleeding
>HOLY SHIT MOM WHAT DO I DO WHATS HAPPENING
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>>68815772
See this? This was in literally every episode. No one ever complained.
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>>68815882
>>68815902
>>68815918
>>68815970
>>68816008
>>68816011

Think about it, why is not okay to show love and sex on kids shows but it's ok to show violence and blood? What kind of backwards logic is that? Either you ban all of something or none of something.
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ITT
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It's really fucking sad that CN's standards and practices forbid shows from showing blood. Talk about it all you want sure, sexual innuendo ok. But blood, something every kid will see at some point if they don't live in a bubble? NOPE
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>>68815772
here's that response you wanted
Hey guys, when's the new Gravity Falls supposed to come out?
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>>68816101
Because kids know what it's like to hurt yourself, but they don't know bout sex yet.
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>>68816101
This isn't violence, it's just blood. He cut his hand and it bled.

Showing injuries is good for kids, that way they don't think that beating themselves over the head with pipes and shit is okay.

Showing sex would lead to kids having sex.
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>>68816100
Now look at CN. They are fucking scared of this. Don't expect the PPG reboot to be faithful to this.
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>>68816140
They don't. Finn from Adventure Time had a sword literally made of blood, and I know for a fact he has been shown bleeding on more than one occasion. What they forbid is showing gore.
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>>68816140
>>68816242
>CN hates blood but are okay with AT and SU constantly having sexual implications in their shows
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>>68816178
Febuary
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>>68816203
Not if you show sex as something utterly horrifying. Like a realistic rape.

>>68816242
It was a red sword. Big fucking whoop. And Finn doesn't bleed. Get bruised or scratched? Sure, CN is fine with that. But no open wounds showing blood. Unless it's some monster with multi-color fluids.

And AT is fine with decapitation and de-limbing, Just don't expect fluids.
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>>68816183
Going by that logic it should be ok to show kissing,gf/bf,and sexual implications since kids these days are familiar with them now. Only very few shows will actually show that stuff if any at all
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>>68816100
This unsettled me as a kid. Not because of the blood itself, but the fact that Him could bleed AND was the only one in the intro shown to bleed. I don't know why, it just creeped me out.
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>>68816329
You raise a good point, CN confirmed for pussies and I will boycott if they don't have a realistic rape scene by the end of the year.
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>>68816140
>>68816203
I don't get why it's such a issue to show some injury and blood. Who the fuck didn't get scratched up, broke a bone or needed stitches as a child?

I cut my palms open with a box cutter when I was five, tripped into a metal fence and split my head open to where I needed 27 stitches, fell out of a tree and broke my arm, flipped over bikes, stepped on hot coals, smashed half my baby teeth out, etc. Kids are fucking tanks. My dad has a video of me when I split my head wide open, gushing blood like crazy and in the video I didn't cry, my dad put a bandaid on me and I was totally fine. Later my mom bugged and took me to get stitches, but getting hurt seems like a normal thing for kids.

I had my tonsils removed when I was a kid too and I had asked them to keep them so I could see what they looked like. They did and I thought it was the coolest thing ever.
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>>68816417
>inb4 Breezy
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>>68811925
It's disney.

Somewhere along the line, they decided "You know what, fuck it, let's see how far these showrunners are willing to try to push the envelope."
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>>68816217
I don't know what to expect from the reboot. Definitely less violence (though CN's recent change in management might help, idk), but then if they just kept it the same as it used to be it wouldn't be worth rebooting. Hopefully they don't make it a sitcom like they did with Teen Titans Go!, but they might. The fact that the execs have been willing to push some boundaries with shows like Adventure Time and Regular Show gives me some hope.

All I know is, if the animation is half as good as "Dance Pantsed" was I will be watching every episode.
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>>68815772
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>>68816329
Except you know that time when Joshua was shown forging the sword, the Demon was shown sucking the blood out of both Joshua and Jake, and the Demon got his blood back out of the sword. There were plenty of fluids.
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>>68816101
Why would a child not be aware of blood? Nosebleeds, papercuts, scrapped knees, all of that shit happens to kids.
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>>68816409
Maybe this will help:

In all 3 of the episodes which feature HIM personally getting into a fight with the girls, he figuratively curbstomps them at least once. In two of them ("See Me, Feel Me, Gnomey" and "Speed Demon") the girls actually never beat him.
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>>68816531
Barely visible red mist coming out of invisible pores. Who the fuck cares? Call me when they have a bloody nose with dripping fluids.
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>>68816100
I think it's important to illustrate to children that if you jump kick someone square in the mouth you're likely to knock a tooth out.
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>>68817212
Give a mouse a fucking cookie...
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>>68815772
They've showed blood in Arthur multiple times. Chill the fuck out nigga.
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>>68816100
Genndy has always been known to push the envelope when it comes to what's appropriate to show.
See symbiotic titan
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>>68817551
PPG is Craig McCracken.
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>>68817602
It's *mainly* McCkracken. Tartakovsky did some direction, production and writing. He and McCracken did a lot of collaboration back then.
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>>68817602
I thought Lauren Faust worked on PPG?
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>>68817776
She did.
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>>68815772
are you european by chance?
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I agree OP
Why is such a long ass hiatus allowed
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>>68811706
That's a scrape, doesn't count. But still Disney channel is somehow doing better than daytime Cartoon Network in this area. They got away with Dipper bleeding a teeny tiny bit from his nose, which is actually impressive.
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>>68817551
This is the correct example. In Samurai Jack, everyone was Robots.

In Sym-bionic Titan, Lance kills - straight up kills - dozens of soldiers within the first two minutes of the show's first episode. He does this again in episode 11(?), and in episode 16 he stabs a traitor in the fucking gut.

As to the sex part of censorship, everyone knows the twerking scene, and in episode 19 Ilana is wearing that towel I attached for a good 3 minutes

Genndy gave no fucks in Sym-bionic Titan.
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>>68817056
I think banning blood is to make the violence less scary.

But taking the blood away makes the violence look like it's not dangerous and doesn't hurt. Arguably worse.
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>>68817551

I believe there was an episode of Dexter where the mom cuts off a chicken's head, and blood is shown.
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>>68816242
>I know for a fact he has been shown bleeding on more than one occasion
No, he has not. Scrapes and bruises yeah but not real running red. Monsters can bleed but it can't be red. I'll give up my ATfag badge if you got an example.
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>>68818263
Exactly, children need to be aware they are not invincible. Gravity Falls is far lower in the slapstick scale than say, EE&E.
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>>68818098
They showed him bandaging it up complete with blood coloring the wrap.

But yeah, still better than CN who can't stand blood beyond dialogue.
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>>68816304
Plausible deniability. Innuendo is up to interpretation, if somebody complains.
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>>68818098
>scrape

A large pipe hit his hand and the blood went through the bandage. I'd hardly call that a scrape
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>>68818125
the part that stuck out to me as violent in symbiotic titan is when the ape-like villain dude fucking snapped a guys neck and the shot lingers for a second.
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>>68818125
Let's not forget lance was staring at her naked body for a good few seconds after he beat that one monster
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>>68818472
>>68818409
I was just judging based on the picture, I stand corrected. I should catch up on GF.
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>>68816531
That was a pretty good attempt to skirt the rule. I'd call it "vaporized blood mist".
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>>68818499
This scene? Modula's fight against the resistance in episode 1. Shit was brutal, and he didn't even break a sweat.
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>>68818499
The discretion shot makes it more brutal, I love it.
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>>68818812
So who here thinks he had a mutradi under his hat controlling him?
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>>68819007
Very likely fan theory - it would explain Modula's sudden change in loyalties, his miraculous survival, and why his face is never shown in present day but is shown in flashbacks - but it always seemed like a red herring to me. It's just so damn obvious; it is literally staring you right in the face. I prefer the idea that Modula was so damn tough that he was able to survive alone on Mutrad against insurmountable odds, that he actually did turn traitor for his own survival, and that he was able to convince the Mutradi he was worthy of their leadership.
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>>68816327
fuck
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>>68819007
It's possible, but he has a good reason to be pissed off at the king.
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>>68816327
Mid Feb. Thought it was this month but I just checked this morning. It's a pacifica episode.
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>>>68813732
Whorehouse
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>>68819406
Is it true we only get 3 seasons of the show then it's done forever?
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>>68818812
yes that scene! Thanks, I was neck-snap anon and god if that scene didn't sell me on this show.
shame it'll never be finished.
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>>68817842
But Europeans got this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf_kGtoxYPY
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>>68819586
Holy shit
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>>68819496
No idea but that's probably what's going to happen cause of the ratings tanking. I hope not but you know how much corporations like their fat paychecks.
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>>68819586
Jesus fuck. Fucking Germans.
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>>68816101
german detected
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>>68819990
>>68820026
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>>68819586
>moohoohoohoo
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>>68819946
You do know it was conceived as being three seasons to begin with, right? Like it would cover the summer one season per month and then be done by (in continuity) September.
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>>68820336
Wait, how long is American summer vacation? Also I am sure many of those episodes take place over more than one day
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>>68820429
It varies state by state and school district by school district, but for the most part it's either May-August or June-September.
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>>68820512
Three whole months, hu. They are from California and arrive there in June. So that would make it really August or September
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>>68816101
The fact is, it's much more likely that the children will try to have sex with each other than it is that they'll fucking murder each other.
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>>68816101

It's not actually. One, this isn't violence, he got nicked by a pipe that was sucked into the portal, two, sex is not something kids understand. And no, don't give me the bullshit that kids "know" what sex is. They really don't. Sex IS a mature subject, whether you like it or not, and no child, NO child is mentally capable of fully understanding what it is.

Whine more.
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>>68815772
I think you got lost, pal. The board for weenies is down that way.
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>>68816203
>>68821730
>>68822085

>not showing it prevents it from happening

Yes we all know how well that's working these days right?
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>>68822085
Purging all reference to sex is not beneficial, though. It creates a forbidden fruit thing. I mean there are lots of things that kids can't understand.

The example here doesn't suggest that blood is okay in kids' media, anyway. It's almost always forbidden. Gravity Falls is getting some crazy leeway.
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>>68822382
>>68822510

Kids=/=Teenagers
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>>68822313
Fuck you.
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>>68822583
>k-kids these days a-aren't having sex it's just teenagers I s-swear!
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>>68822583
I do not know what you are implying
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>>68822583
Yes good goyum . kids don't have sex ever it's impossible. Our kids safe media sees to that
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>>68815772
Too bad it's you vs the world fagget.
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>>68822788
>>68822937
What, did you read "Brave new world" and though 'Yea, this is a great way to raise kids!'
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>>68822937
How old is a "kid"?

Are we still arguing that kids seeing sex will make them have it? I think our bodies take care of that.
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>>68823101
12 and below and I'd say seeing sex makes them more likely to have it
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Grunkle Stan did nothing wrong

Grunkle Stan will do nothing wrong
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>>68823233
I feel like his hard on for that portal will get in the way of what's really important to him
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>>68823232
It's not like little kids don't experiment on their own.
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>>68822824

A show with sex in it aimed at a teenage demographic would make sense, a show aimed at 6-11 year olds does not.
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>>68823388
Yeah that's why I said more likely. instinct and hormones pretty much call the shots even without outside influences
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>>68823660
>ask a legit series of questions calling out flaws with the censorship in televised programming
>get accused of trolling/baiting
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You're all missing the point, that the scene was used to illustrate how Mcgucket/Stan/Stan's brother lost his sixth finger.
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Sunday night. Drunk. Feel like spoiling some shit. I work for Disney (on a show that doesnt air regularly yet) I've seen the next 3 episodes of Gravity Falls. I'm not gonna give "proof" because that could jeopardize my job, obviously. But Im fine anonymously answering questions. Frankly I dont give a shit if it pisses off the GF crew because they're all arrogant anyway
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>>68823786
>Overreact to a minor scrape on a kids show
>whine on /co/
>doesn't realize how ridiculous this sounds
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>>68823537
I think it depends on what the show is about and the explicitness of the material.

Are we still talking about Gravity Falls?
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>>68823949
Why Disney would suddenly allow blood is a pretty good question.
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>>68823936
Have you met voice actors for gf or any other show?
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Seriously ask me something. I cant remember shit verbatim but I've seen the two of the episodes in color and one in animatic
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>>68823846
This.

OP, it's allowed because Gravity Falls has a tween fanbase instead of a child fanbase. It's a step up the ladder. CN, for example assumes most their shows are for a child fanbase.
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>>68823993
Yeah, Ive met quite a few voice actors. The show I'm on has some overlap with GF voice actors. Kevin Michael Richardson who does Blubs has voiced on our show. He's like 400 pounds and really fucking funny
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>>68823936
>>68824012

OP here, what was your reaction to seeing blood on a goddamn Disney channel show? Do you have any opinions on the subject in general?
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>>68824061
GF gets away with all this stuff because Hirsch is legendary for being stubborn. He hates Disney and I think wants to get fired so he's not scared to force shit in. Which I would respect except everyone sucks his dick for getting stuff past the censors, when his only secret is just having a death wish
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>>68824061
We cant show blood on our show, but we have robots get sliced up and "green stuff" comes out. As long as its not red we're fine. No one wants to force it in and get fired like Alex would have if he wasn't untouchable at this point
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>>68824012
A buddy told me that there are clues about what Soos' secret is, can you confirm?
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>>68824012
When does Stan find the last cheveron and activate the stargate?
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>>68824148
Soos knows about Stans portal. He's been keeping the shit a secret for Stan. But he's too dumb to know what its for
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>>68824198
Sooner than you think. The craziest shit Ive seen on the show is coming really soon. Basically Stan is in league with Bill. He's been working with Bill to let him into our dimension. He's essentially his henchman he just doesnt realize how deep in he is. The brother stuff is totally wrong. The author is hinted to be a totally new character we haven't met yet
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>>68824204
Does Stan know Soos knows?
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>>68824198
Its pretty shocking that they reveal Stan to essentially be a villain. I honestly thing its a huge fuck up. The show seems like it wont be funny anymore after this. I've only seen the animatic of the episode but its weird. Like tonally its too fucking serious. Honestly I think its a jump the shark moment
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>>68824105
I noticed that they can use the word "sucks" though Hirsch complained about not being able to before. He must push until they give up.
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>>68824248
Does the stargate have anything to do with timetravel?
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>>68824147
He doesn't push it too far.
None of the injuries are life threatening like being sliced up, and all kids have gotten small cuts before.
Do you work on Star?
Are the upcoming eps of either show any good?
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>>68824267
Yeah he told Soos to keep it a secret since he was like a kid working for him or something. Soos turns against Stan when he finds out Stan is basically Bill's henchman. Bill has promised Stan infinite riches if he helps him. Stan has been trying to get the journals to do this for years
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>>68824204
>>68824248
>>68824279

Nice fanfiction there bud. You come up with that yourself?
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>>68824302
No its just a gate to Bills dimension, but we never actually see Bills dimension, at least not yet, which seems like a missed opportunity
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>>68824248
>>68824279
Not buying it because, why the fuck would Bill try to steal shit from Stan's head if they were teaming up?
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>>68824319
>infinite riches
solid theory. i'm going to leave now in case it turns out to be true.
good luck finding another animation job, you leaky pete, you.
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>>68824354
Wait and see man haha. I wish I was making it up. Like I said I honestly think its a huge mistake to make Stan work for Bill. Im sure he'll have some big redemption arc but honestly it seems too serious for the series. I think Hirsch is trying too hard to be grimdark
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>>68824204
>>68824248
>>68824279
>I work on the show
Dude's wrong. But not as wrong as it looks.
I'm leaving it like that.
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>>68824279
Stan's been written as a self-serving crook for a while now.
Why the fuck would he trust Bill at this stage, though?
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>>68824383
Speculation here, but I think Bill wanted to find the part in Stan's head that had doubts about working with Bill and destroy it. Basically Bill has Stan a little brainwashed and Bill was trying to solidify that deal.
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>>68824415
I dont work on the show, I work on another Disney TV show that isn't airing regularly yet
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>>68823232
Technically you're still a "kid" until 18. These fancy categories don't his dee that one true fact.
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>>68824388
Im fine being a leaky Pete. Hirsch is too full of himself anyway. He needs to accept that shit leaks sometimes
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>>68824497
Oh.
You're kinda very wrong still, man. Specially about Soos.
But maybe you didn't get to see TOO much.
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>>68824552
Haha try me. I know literally everything about the next episode I've seen it all ask me anything.
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>>68824552
>>68824415

How the fuck would you even know?
>inb4 you are the ghost of Walt disney
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Shit gotta go. RE: Northwest Mansion Mystery- Dipper spends the entire next episode in a suit and Grenda gets a boyfriend. When you see the episode you'll see I've been right about all this shit
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>>68824639
You are aware that Hirsch is here, right? I'm not going to get in shit, I like where I am.
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>>68824551
It's kind of screwing us though, I'd rather see it unfold on screen than in shitposts.
I don't know Hirsch but based on his show he has every right too be full of himself. You're just jealous.
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Someone screencap this shit now!
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>>68815772
It amazes me people still fall for bait this obvious.
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