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>watching Hey Arnold again for the first time in years >tfw

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>watching Hey Arnold again for the first time in years
>tfw discovering Miriam was an alcoholic

god damn this show could get fucking dark.
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>'Hey Helga, was that your mom?'
>'As a matter of fact football head, it was.'
>'Wow. When did she get her license back?'
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>>67217739
>Discovering
You couldn't tell when you were a kid?
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>>67217798
I dunno man, I just figured she was sleepy all the time and really enjoyed smoothies
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>>67217751
This was a fucking joke in the show?

N-no way...
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>didn't know anything about the Vietnam war when I was a little kid
>learn about it when I was about 10 or 11 or so
>see that famous image of the helicopter airlifting people out of Saigon
>remember the Christmas episode
>suddenly overcome with feels

learning about the Vietnam war made that episode even more sad and watching that episode somehow made the Vietnam war even more sad
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>>67217865
yep. it was in the episode where Miriam fills in for Bob at the beeper emporium
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as crazy as Helga was, she was probably the least fucked-up member of her family. She at least seemed to be aware that she had problems.
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>>67217977
And it was clear Olga had more than a few issues on the back burner.
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>>67217811
were you by any chance a "special" child?
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>>67217811
I guess there weren't any alcoholics in your life growing up.

I distinctly remember figuring that out the first time I saw the show.
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I always wondered: was there any specific official reason that Lila was, in almost every aspect, Anne of Green Gables?
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>>67220083
Not everyone grew up familiar with alcoholism when they were growing up, especially passive versions of it like Miriam showed.
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>>67220111
>Didn't grow up around alcoholics
You lucky little fucker.
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>>67220117
Half-and-half. I saw what an alcoholic looked like when my parents divorced.

Arnold was supposed to have had a complex himself, right? I don't remember if people just came to him for help, or if he couldn't stop himself from getting involved in problems.
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>>67220050
Oh geez, so this is where all that fanart comes from. I don't even remember this episode.
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>>67220159
>I don't remember if people just came to him for help, or if he couldn't stop himself from getting involved in problems.

From what I can remember, people always came to him because he was so reliable (and everyone was an incompetent lunatic). I think there was an episode were Arnold got tired of their shit.
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Ever had a beeper /co/?
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>>67217739
Being an alchohoic is not "dark". Over 65% ofthe american population are alcoholics. You have teenagers that are alcoholics. Even squirrels become alcoholics.
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>>67222113
>everybody does it so it must not have destructive consequences on people's lives

amazin
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>>67217798
I just thought she was tired all the time. I knew what a hammered person acted like, even as a kid and Miriam never came off that way.
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>yfw realizing the bottom of Phoebe's outfit was not a skirt, but the bottom of her sweater
>she goes to school in a sweater and nothing else
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>>67222131
Don't put words in my mouth. Im saying drunk people in fiction is not "dark" subject matter and isnt deep storytelling or anything. Considering how common it is its a very trite subject and no one is going to get "feels" from it unless they are mentally damaged.
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>>67222156
that's a ridiculous assumption. people who's lives are affected by alcoholism will most definitely recognize some of that pattern and behavior in media and react to it. it is 'dark' because it's a taboo problem that most families hide away under a blanket. your definition of alcoholism seems stupidly generalized, and as far as statistics go, there's nothing plural or concrete about them, considering it's tied to a particular definition which regulates and conditions what a supposed 'alcoholic' will be. people who have lived through alcoholism know what that is, and they know how shit it gets.
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>there was supposed to be a spinoff starring a Teenage Helga living her life with her shitty family
>It was too dark for nick and 'too daria' for MTV
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>>67222188
My mom was an alcoholic.

I knew Helga's mom was alcoholic even as a kid.
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>>67222188
Well my stepdad was a pretty bad one and I just found it incredibly annoying and inconvenient most of the time. Especially when he was a huge asshole when he was hungover and would throw up in the bath tub every other morning. So yeah. And I see drunks in fiction I don't get triggered by it and go,"Ohhhh man right in the feels bro :(".
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>>67222233
Well, good for you then, bro.
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>>67222242
Get rekt
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>>67222222
Hey, at least you grew up to get sextuplets :^)
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>>67220050
>yfw you get a B

>>67220159
>Arnold was supposed to have had a complex himself, right?
It was a bit tough for Arnold to look the other way if someone needed help.

>>67220538
>I think there was an episode were Arnold got tired of their shit.
I think I know what you're talking about. There was an episode where Helga convinced the other kids to get Arnold to stop giving out advice. The kids do stupid shit and Helga gives them advice to fix it that just makes things worse. Helga then basically begs Arnold to start giving out advice again and all is well.

It kinda reminds of that Recess episode where Spinelli took over for Guru Kid.
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>>67220085
:(
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>>67220538
Arnold also got tired of Mr Kokoshka because he was such a useless piece of shit.

He finally got a job as a paper boy (his first question was how many sick days he got) but was too lazy to get up and do the work, because he was 'sick' and 'hurt his back'. Arnold got pissed enough to call him a huge loser.
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>>67222305
Just like real slavic men.
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>Miriam used to be an olympic class swimmer and equestrian
>presumably gets knocked up by Bob in college
>marries him and has Olga, having to sacrifice all of her career and life ambitions to be a mother before she was ready
>drowns her sorrows with 'smoothies'

there's a ton of hints for all of this shit. Especially when Olga says she's getting married and Miriam responds by saying 'no honey, don't make the same mistake I made...'
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>>67222332
Bob's entire attitude just brings her down too.

When he was unable to work and she had to fill in for him, it turns out she was super capable and active.
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>>67222352
Yeah she just married the wrong guy. He probably forced her into being a stay at home mom so he could live that fantasy 50's ideal life.
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>>67222113
I find 65% a huge stretch unless you use a very liberal definition like "has a drink every other day." I would be more likely to believe "65% of Americans drink alcohol." Not calling you a bullshitter but I want a link to back up cuz it's a big claim.
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>>67222188
>Tfw alcohol will never be illegal again.
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>>67222332
all of the commitment and effort that went into raising Olga probably just left her too exhausted and unmotivated to focus on Helga once Olga was out of the house too. In the flashback sequences Miriam seems much more energetic and attentive, but it's all being focused on Olga.
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I knew a girl in highschool who was just like Olga.

Needless to say, she became a massive drug addict/party girl when she went off to college and is apparently a lesbian now
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>"Grandpa you did not fight Adolph Hitler."
>"Ehehe, okay got me, short man ... it was Goebbels."
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anyone wanna stream some hey arnold eps?
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Big Bob wasn't a terrible guy. He was by no means a saint, but he did provide for his family. He didn't smack Miriam around, fool around with girls, and kept a roof over their heads.
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>>67222410
At the very least, it seemed like he could provide financially
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>>67217798

Sorry, not everyone has alcoholic, abusive parents growing up.
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>>67222651
He was kinda verbally abusive.
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>>67222651
>not as big an asshole as he could have been award.jpg
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>>67221967
My dad had one. I thought it was pretty cool.
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>tfw you realize your dad was an ex-alcoholic.
>tfw you sometimes wish he never stopped drinking.
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>>67220110

No, but popular opinion (and one analysis from someone who claimed to be a child psychologist) points towards her being abused by her father. Yes, that includes sexually.
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>>67223139
she wasn't abused
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>>67223174

I'm not saying it's my opinion, just that it seems to be the popular reasoning for her "ever so" polite and modest nature.
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>>67223174
Lila's dad, pls go.
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>>67222651
It seems like he was unaware of a lot of the negative effects he has on his family. Like if he actually had it pointed out to him then he would try to fix it on some level.
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Hey, wasn't that teacher gay?
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>>67223269
yep. The thanksgiving episode basically confirmed it
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>>67222281
Winning isn't everything, Olga.

It's the only thing.
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>>67220085
=(
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>>67223262

He cared about his job more than he did his family, for sure.

Let's assume the series takes place in the "modern day," so mid-late 90s to early 00s, right? Bob is the owner of the biggest "beeper emporium" in the city in a time where beepers are starting to hit a decline and cell phones are starting to become a thing. However, he still thinks he's a big shot, the biggest shot actually, and throws his weight around like he's the most important guy in town.

This hurts his family because he expects them to treat him like a vassal would treat a king, not daughters/a wife to a father/husband. Bob showed he only really cared what happened to his family if it threatened his "beeper empire" or his reputation.
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>you will never have your own neighborhood baseball diamond in the vacant lot
>you will never be shoved into trash cans by fifth graders
>you will never have a WW2 veteran grandpa who can still bench press over 200 pounds
>you will never have a girl obsessively build a shrine to you out of used bubblegum in her closet while acting tsundere to you in school
>you will never leave the stoop
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>>67223774
>you will never have a WW2 veteran grandpa who can still bench press over 200 pounds

But I did.

I miss you pop
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>>67222305
man fuck Kokoshka
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>>67222113
>Even squirrels become alcoholics.
Well that explains the new Squirrel Girl's design
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>>67223384
Yes, and when Helga and him spent the week together he tried to make amends because he realized he was a shitty dad to her. He can try when he wants to
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>>67222472
yeah i'm calling BS on that as well
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>>67223955
I truly hated him
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>>67223774
>Wanting to leave the stoop

That stoop looked comfy as fuck
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>>67222222
Sweet hexes, kid.
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>>67220159
There was an entire episode about it where Iggy kept guilting Arnold over something trivial because Arnold couldn't draw the line and tell him to knock it the fuck off. Everyone hates that episode for whatever reason, but I thought the lesson was a good one.
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>>67222889
>tfw your father was an alcoholic
>tfw he got lung cancer and his liver was too weak to handle chemo so he died
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>>67223139
Nah, it was her mother; that's why she only lived with her father. But that being said that whole analysis is reaching quite a bit I think.
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>>67220050
>>67220110
I fucking hated Lila so much
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>>67222141
no it's a skirt. If it was a sweater it would have the same pattern as the collar and sleeves.
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>>67222141
>>67226556
or not pattern
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>>67226450
I was always hoping for a Lila redemption episode, where she would later join up with Helga and Phoebe as friends...
>But it was sorta Arnold's fault she acted toward him the way she did.
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>>67223139
It was probably her mother.
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>>67223384

I forgot he had a beeper emporium.

Oh dear lord, he probably lost everything by the time Helga was in high school.
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>>67226596

Lila literally did nothing wrong, it was Arnold's fault the whole time.
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>>67223294
Yeah, he had the awkward family thing going on.
To read to much into it, he's probably so cheerful and encouraging of the kids because he's trying to be the person he needed in his life as a kid but didn't have.
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>shipped Phoebe and the black kid for the longest
>it actually happened

It awoke something in me
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dude, even as a kid I could tell she was suppose to be drunk, at least I made the connection, thanks to seeing my mom fairly drunk back then. how and why are people flipping so much shit at seeing subtle things people slipped in back then?
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>>67226986
Before Evanstipin and Aangtara, there was Pherald.
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>>67226815
It really, Bob strikes me as the type of guy to s tray on the up and up of what's cool, so imagine home to have an apple store or something. He might not like it and bitch about his hipster a as employees at home, but I have no doubt he has the drive to stay sucessful. He's ducking rich as he'll though if he got Miriam sober enough to help out. They'd probably give Help a a job as an assistant manager in an attempt to spend time with her and teach her some values, but knowing her she'd see it as them using her for cheap labor.
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>>67222113
Wait, you sounds like someone I had a few classes with... From KS?
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>>67226815
According to what little information the creator has given us about the Patakis spin-off, Big Bob had switched to cell phones.
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>>67227134
Likely hating his job since he didn't understand them, pining for good old days that were exactly the same as now.
The "Cellphone King" is just a brand thing to him now.
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>>67226986
Jungle Fever?
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>>67226845
Uhh, wait. What did Lila do? I can't remember; I always thought she was pretty chill.
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>>67225273
S3E10a

Also, the episode that made Craig Bartlett so mad, he wrote off Iggy from the whole series.
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>>67228277
Arnold confessed infactuation. She gave him shit for her being a real life waifu to him.
It set him up to see past faults in terms of romance, setting up for Helga.
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>>67222497

>You will never run your own Speakeasy
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Rhonda=Olga>>>>>Pheobe>>Helga>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lila
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I knew she was an alocholic when my dad watch and episode with me and said deadpan "shes an alchy"
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>>67229186
>Craig Bartlett
>married to matt goering sister
Hey arnold in simpsons when:?
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>>67229186
He apparently also forced everyone involved to apologize for it. That's impressive.
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>>67227229
nah he was selling Cell Phones during the show itself, and definitely uses one himself, he just focuses so much on Beepers cause that's what made him successful(wouldn't be surprised if he was the first guy to sell them in Hillwood), also he probably still sells some Beepers since they still see some use today

>>67229186
>>67231873
yeah I think everyone agrees that was probably the worst episode in the series, also who else would totally buy a Dino Spumoni album?
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>>67231754
If i was a kid and my dad said this I would have thought she was an alchemist
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>>67222497
>the chaos that was the prohibition
never again.
never
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>>67232320
Washingtonfag here.
Make it illegal to make a cultural stigma, then legalize and keep it off the roads.
Gets rid of the problems it seems.
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>>67231786
With the way things are going, possibly soon. The only few times The Simpsons have been remotely good in the past few years were crossovers. It would probably be for the best if The Simpsons straight up became a crossover show.
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>>67222595

I don't think this episode has been aired back in the 90s in Germany. Anyway, a great episode
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>>67223774

>you will never have Arnold's room

No matter how successful you are, your room will never be like his
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>>67232277

I thought that just now and it would be kind of neater for Helga
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>>67222113

>Even squirrels become alcoholics.
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>>67222213

>>It was too dark for nick and 'too daria' for MTV
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Did Arnold's skylight have shades? Because that thing would fry someone for most of the day.
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>>67220083
If by "special" you mean "didn't grow up in a broken home" then yes. Sorry you had to get a crash-course on substance abuse so early in your life.
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Daily reminder that if your parents are divorced, they don't love you.
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>>67234026
>Parents were high school sweethearts
>Grandparents got married after Grandma got knocked up at 16
>Still together 45 years later
>Still married after 27 years
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>>67229186
That's some bullshit made up by the wiki that gets spread around by people who are dumb enough to think it's a source.
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>>67234026
And don't forget:
Daily reminder that if your parents are divorced, it's your fault.
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>>67233885
It's not a broken home just because someone is an alchoholic, anon.

That comes later when they divorce as a result.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yERDDbP53Sw
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People downtown sure are friendly
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>>67234357
>tfw this is 100% true
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>>67234703
I was kidding. It's their fault for having you in the first place. Of course, if you'd turned out better...
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>>67233799
Imagine how comfy that room would be during a storm.
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>>67234204
There's a popular faggot on Youtube who likes to spread bullshit without checking his facts. That and the Pigeon Man suicide rumor spreading all over hell are his doing.
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>>67231705
try again
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>>67227071
Evanstipin?
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>>67235263
Evangelyne and Tristepin from Wakfu.
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>>67235082
But Rhonda should still remain as first girl, right?
She's the one that Arnold should have ended up with in the movie
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>>67234357

>it's your fault

There are times when I regret telling my dad that one night about how one morning, while my dad was still on his week-long work trips, I found another man in my parent's bed when I forgot my teddy bear in my parent's room.

If I had not have told my father, if I had not made that discovery in the first place, they probably wouldn't have gotten divorced (at least, for a little longer). I wouldn't have moved to Massachusetts instead of sunny California. I wouldn't have endured the nights of my father's depression, anger and emotional scarring rubbing off on me at such a young age. I wouldn't have become a mentally-ill, anti-social shut-in with no aspirations to this day. I wouldn't have ended up here on 4chan for countless hours.

I wouldn't have experienced the worst days of my life living on the east coast, what with all the fights, the beatings, the broken toys, the suicide attempts, and everything else.

Maybe, if I had not told my dad, I would have lived a much different life. A marginally different one at least. But not this one.

Thanks for reminding me, anon.

Hey Arnold is the best show.
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>>67235589
Please tell me that their Iop daughter aspires to be an archer and their Cra son wants to be a knight.
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>>67222222
Let cry havoc!
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>>67223955
>>67224854
no he fucking ruled
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>>67232320
yeah ti's better that we have the chaos that is the war on drugs
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>>67237644
Anon if you thought he ruled you're probably a lazy layabout just like him. I know because that's the case with me.
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>>67237862
(actually, scratch that, I'm retarded)
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>>67234357
It kind of was, sure. My life is shittier now but at least I gained a understanding that my life is better off without abuse.
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>>67237824
he was the funniest character in the show
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>>67226845
True, but that doesn't make her an interesting character to follow, either.

She's okay.
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>>67235607
>keeping your feet exposed while a boy is in the room.

slut.
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>>67235607
Where is her nipple?
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>>67222141
She doesn't even wear any undies
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>>67238184
Cartoon characters don't have nipples, duh
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>>67238189

Hold on a minute.

Is she wearing skin-colored, skin-tight pants?

Or is Pheobe too pure for genitals?
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>>67238184
A little lower and to the right.
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>>67238350
I'm sure she has a vagina and it's just a detail they didn't draw in
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>>67238316
liar
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>>67238152
It's not like she's drawing attention to them by wriggling her toes, or absentmindedly sliding them up and down the bed.
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>>67222113
For a childrens television show?
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>>67238641

>you will never sniff those socks
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>>67217739
i am still mad
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>>67238758
Don't sniff socks, those are disgusting.
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>>67238809
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>>67238809
I remember that didley feelerino.
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>>67226059
This is an unrated post, but it's a sad one.
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Back in 2010 I rewatched this on Netflix a little bit. I really think the Pidgeon homeless person comitted suicide. He just flew into the sunset with his birds. I think he jumped off the building or just went missing and Arnold imagined it as that ending. He was just a homeless person they die all the time. It's not that farfetched.

There was also a shutin/agoraphobic guy renting from their apartments. I think Arnold imagined him as a spy or something. I'm a shut in myself so that's why I noticed it.

There was a lot more I didn't get like the alcoholism. The sad thing is I live in a mostly white christian rural town so I only know about Judaism from Hey Arnold and Rugrats too.
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>>67238738
Reality in a children's show != dark
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>>67235828
Anon it wasn't your fault that your mom cheated on him. He could have found out so many other ways. As a child you were innocent and didn't understand the gravity of telling him. It may have been the right thing to do. Not telling him he may have found out himself. Seriously your mom was dumb and a whore she didn't even go to a hotel or anything. It's really not your fault.
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>>67235828
Also mental illness isn't your fault either. That can happen to anyone in any situation. It's like disease, it doesn't really discriminate.
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>>67220085
>>67220117

Were your parents lightweights or something?
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>>67233799
Yeah it had shutters or something.
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>>67231705
Olga>That backwoods version of Helga>Rhonda=Helga>Pheobe>Lila>Ruth
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>>67234026
>tfw parents waited until I was a legal adult to divorce

I guess they kinda loved me
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>>67234357
>Dad was a cheapskate but I was okay with it, because I was also raised a cheapskate
>Tried to get my mom to only spend from the bank account on the essentials their whole marriage
>She went and bought my brothers and I a bunch of shit that we didn't need/want as kids all the time, like 15+ pairs of pants each and other "more important" shit like that that wasn't vidya
>Always told my mom she buys more than we need
>she takes it up the ass, beating mine and telling me to stop being like my dad
>My dad divorced my mom over money

Was it still my fault?
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>>67217798
As a kid I thought she was just an "airhead."
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>>67223774
>you will never be shoved into trash cans by fifth graders

That episode was so god damn exciting. I felt like I was watching Aliens... but with kids.
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>>67226596
I feel like people forget the Romeo & Juliet class play episode.
>Arnold gets cast as Romeo
>Helga convinces each girl who gets the part of Juliet to step out of it
>Lila gets the part and when Helga goes to convince her to let it go she pretty much goes "I know you like Arnold, so I'll back out of it"
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>>67233148
meh, with that glass ceiling, in the middle of the city... your air conditioning bill would be off the charts.
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>>67233799
what a fucking terrible location for a TV
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>>67235828
don't worry anon, It's not your fault

it's the devil's
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>>67222113
Did you know over 83% of statistics are made up
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>>67243310
>responding to a comment that old
I don't understand, anon, why even bother?
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>>67221967
>yfw you realize Big Bob's bopper business tanked by 2001
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You make my girlhood tremble.
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>>67243385

That makes too much sense. Bob is too stuck in his ways to consider that the cell phones are taking over the market and stubbornly drives himself out of business because he refuses to adapt.
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> Bob the Beeper King lost his entire empire after 2001.
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>>67244634
Pretty unlikely. The guy was selling cellphones since the beginning of the series as well. He just pushed Beepers because they were his most successful product and he was probably the biggest dealer in the area. (Quite possibly the only dealer when all was said and done. So he might even still be selling them today.)

Helga had a cellphone since the start of the show, if memory serves. I remember her using it around the beginning once or twice. We also see her family has cellphones as well, which honestly weren't that common in the mid-90s.

Ultimately, unless Bob failed to keep up with selling smartphones, he would have done until 2008+, since they still weren't really taking off until then.
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>>67243385
>>67243642

If he was smart he would be selling it to hospitals and other emergency services
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>>67245276

Also drug dealers.
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>>67245428

uhhh, i dont see how drug dealers could use beepers ?

arent pre paid phones more advantageous to them?
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>>67245217
>So he might even still be selling them today
>selling beepers
>2014
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>>67245477

emergency services still use them because beepers can recieve signals in tunnels and other such places where cellphone signals cant reach
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>>67235828
>blaming everything on your father.
>not your promiscuous mother.
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>>67245477
Ever been to a hospital? Nearly all doctors still use Beepers because of their low technological impact. Hospital / Medical equipment is tested against beepers and wasn't until not long ago tested against cellphones. Some hospitals still tell people to turn off their cellphones. Also Beepers can't be hacked easily, and are less likely to have problems because they are a single task device. They are still sold, but primarily only to people in the medical field.

For those that are still in the business of beepers (limited as it ever was) this is basically all that's left of their market but there's still enough there to justify it.
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>>67229186
what's the story behind this?
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>>67231705

Lulu=Helga>Olga>Lila>Pheobe>Rhonda>Ruth
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>>67245868

http://heyarnold.wikia.com/wiki/Arnold_Betrays_Iggy
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>>67231705
Pheobe>Slut Lila=Shy Helga>Helga>Olga>Lila>Rhonda>Nadine>That fucking hippy>everyone else in the cool kids list>Shit>Patty
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>>67220050
>Lena Dunham molests her sister.jpeg
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>>67242712
>I feel like people forget the Romeo & Juliet class play episode.
when Helga goes to convince her to let it go she pretty much goes "I know you like Arnold, so I'll back out of it"
Hahhhhhhhhhhh.... you're right! Great episode. Before you mentioned that, I don't know what I really saw in Hey Arnold (as a kid) that made me like it so much. It was pretty much mediocre looking back in retrospect but that was a great episode, the buildup, what Helga did, and that line from Lila.
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Why do so many people have such a problem with Lila? She's always been depicted as neutral or outright innocent. She tells Arnold several times that she's not attracted to him.
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>>67234810
>Imagine how comfy that room would be during a storm.
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>>67245694
I'm pretty sure there were a few episodes of Dr. House where he was seen with a beeper too.
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>>67217865

lol Are you serious? There's an episode where Helga gets a nanny because her mother had to do community service. Every time she drinks a "smoothy" you hear ice clinking. She uses "tobasco" in her "smoothies". There are multiple times where she forgets to pack Helga's lunch.

If you watched the show, specifically "Helga on the Couch" you learn Helga was emotionally neglected since she was a child, and the only person to ever notice her was Arnold. That's why she loves him, because no one else does. It's a damn shame the Jungle Movie was never made, or else he would have returned her feelings.
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>>67246699

they identify with arnold
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>>67246907
>and the only person to ever notice her was Arnold. That's why she loves him, because no one else does. It's a damn shame the Jungle Movie was never made, or else he would have returned her feelings.
that happened to me but in reverse. a girl noticed me then when I wanted to return my feelings and wanted to go out with her, she said no. things don't always work out the way you want them to and there is no indication that would have happened on the jungle movie. it is apk all purely speculation.
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Why was Hey Arnold! so real?
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>>67238809
To this day I can't handle the sight of a grown man crying. I got choked up watching cops last week.
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>>67245461
Most states require "burner phones" to be traceable. No such law for beepers.
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>>67246699

They either project onto Arnold or ship Arnold x Helga.
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>>67245461

They're passive receivers so there's no way to track where the person getting the message is.
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>>67247098
i am not american and when most movies/show say cant trace the call cause they used prepaid phones i assumed it was pretty common to get such untraceable phones
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>>67246699
>She tells Arnold several times that she's not attracted to him.

thats why people hate lila, they dont understand why she doesnt like him
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The thing is, as soon as Helga actually started dating Arnold she'd probably realise they have nothing in common and she's been projecting this idealised perfect version of him which simply does not exist.

it happened to me, I was in Arnold's place
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>>67247593
yumyum baudelaires
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Why is she so perfect
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>>67242461
No it's still not your fault.
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>>67235828
It was your fault
and you should feel proud of it
never live your life filled with regrets
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>>67247372
But she did like him but he turned her down I think that was what frustrated us as kids and we just carried it to adulthood
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>>67242712
That episode was so good...
It bugs me, though, that the only real "compliment" that Helga got directed at her specifically was a smile on Mr. Simmons' face after he saw she was "not bad"... After all, her performance as Juliet was the most extraordinary point of the play and arguably the sole reason why the play was a success.
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>>67248328

>But she did like him but he turned her down I think

No, why would he turn HER down?

Lila liked him but didnt "like him like him". This possibly pissed off lot of kids watching Hey Arnold because she came off as a massive cunt when she said that

However later in the Romeo & Juliet play episode she hints Helga that she knows Helga has feelings for Arnold. So the reason Lila may not really like him like him is because she probably doesnt want to betray/offend Helga in a way

but i dont think people ever saw it that way
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>>67228277
>>67229201
>>67246699
>>67247372
In Lila's debut she fell for Arnold and confessed that she liked him, but he turned around and and rejected her. She was devastated (Most likely a problem with rejection), but the next day Arnold realized that he DID like her and went to apologized and tell Lila that he was attracted to her. But in a sadistic fashion Lila rejects Arnold with the same word for word as he did and that made her some what the noble villain.
>>67248821
Please watch the episode Arnold & Lila Season 3 Ep 55a, It was what started the while thing sir...
>I still think she should be shipped with Arnie
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>>67249878

But Arnie has zero redeeming features
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>>67250005
Indeed, he would be the perfect punishment for her, and maybe having the others help change the both of them for the better and pairing them up...
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>>67250169

but it's only a dream...
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>>67249878

oh well my memory is still fuzzy since the airing of hey Arnold was not consistent in chronology in my country
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>>67247195
Movie myth, you cant tell who bought it but the second its used you can trace it to within a mile
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>>67250169
Aww, that cute. Your new here aren't you?
>Doesn't know about reaction pics.
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>>67250005
He liked to count. And read ingredients
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I always thought Helga's mom was addicted to pain meds.
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>>67217739
so dark muh 90s
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>>67234026
>Only divorced people in my family are my grandma and grandpa
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>>67238809
Looked up the episode to remember what this was. I feel kind of bad but I laughed.
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>>67232720
how are those mcdonalds kiosks working out for you?

$15 minimum wage my ass
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remember when big bob nearly killed his own daughter with his bare hands?
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>>67255572
You're gonna need to remember with an episode name or picture.
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>>67255621
the halloween episode. The day the earth stood still parody.
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>>67254957
Yep, same here
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Oh man, I love looking back at this kind of stuff I wouldn't have seen as a kid.
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>>67252563
>Olga will never smile down at you as she aggressively teases you to the brink
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>>67234026
>>67234357

I did not ask for these feels.
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>>67234026
>>67234357
And now a daily reminder that you're a pedophile, nigger-lover, jew.
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>>67259874
epic
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As a kid I thought she was addicted to pain and sleep pills. Was stoop kid homeless or agoraphobic?
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>>67261259
a homeless trust-fund terrorist.
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>>67220085
When I saw the show I thought the joke was that she tries those fad diets and energy smoothies but the shit never works, so she's always tired.

Never knew any alcoholics.
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>>67261838
I thought she was just lazy as hell. I didn't even have the opportunity to figure it out on my own because I stopped watching the show before I had a good grasp on the real world.
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>>67250169
It was kinda weird how for a 9-10 year old she was ready for the D right there
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By the time Arnold grows up he'd probably the ruler of the city with all those favors he did for everyone.

>>67241930
Arnold imagined him as a spy cause he was the only boarder who paid rent all the time and knows nothing else about him until the time they went into his room and found out he had the fanciest room out of all the boarders with his own bathroom, and the time they went to his office building.

>>67247926
Good taste

>>67223955
Eh heh heh heh gets me every time

>tfw his voice actor passed away so we Oskar will never laugh again
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>>67254957
Absolutely zero divorces in my immediate and extended (first cousins) family.

People split up when one of them dies of a horrible disease. That's it.
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>>67262176
>Arnold grows up to effectively become the Godfather of Hillwood
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>>67262051
It's also kind of weird that the whole episode was a dream that Arnold was having
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So was it ever revealed why Arnolds parents never came back for him?
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>>67264368
No. I think that's what the second movie was supposed to be fore
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>>67264368
Honesty I thought it was implied that they just died in Central America, whether it be plane crash, disease, or whatever have you. The expression on Phil's face at the end of Parent's day isn't too promising either. >>67264680
This anon is right though, they were going to explore this in the jungle movies.
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>>67264368
What if Arnold's parents had so much fun in South America that they forgot all about him
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Ayy kid, whats with that fuckin get up
2poor 4 new clothes stupid loser?
Ehehhe loser
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>>67217739
>she's always next to a blender

having not known any alcoholics growing up I didn't immediately figure it out either
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>>67223955
>that ep where he babysits
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God-tier episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0wpPJUiyas
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>>67265600
that was one of the shittiest episodes ever made.

-8/10
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>>67222281
olga was sick in the coconut.
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>According to Craig Bartlett, Lana was meant to have a character role in the series. The writers and Craig initially wanted her to have a crush on Arnold. She would ask him to do favors and would make Arnold feel a little uncomfortable. However, Nickelodeon turned down the concept for obvious reasons so the writers attempted to rewrite her character. In the end, they were not satisfied with any results so they ultimately scrapped her after Season 1.

>Despite this, Lana was used in a few episodes. She appeared in the episode "Dinner for Four" where she's seen being startled by one of the cockroaches, and "Dino Checks Out" in which she attends a DinoMania concert. She is also used in all of the opening credits to the show.

>The writers also made continuity errors when she appeared in the episode "Family Man," apparently still living in the boarding house despite indicating she'd moved out earlier. Though her appearances in the episodes "Helga on the Couch" and "The Journal" were justified as flashbacks.
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>>67223139
i remember those threads
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>>67234810
You would get fucking baked by the sun during the summer though
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>>67233799
yeah and remote controlled too iirc
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>>67234026
nah dude, it's better to have divorced parents than maried parents that are constantly fighting.
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>>67223139
The source of her potential (and supposed) abuse was never conclusively aimed at anyone. It could have been her deceased mother just as easily. We never learned much about her, and the few times we saw her dad there seemed to be nothing which could serve as even circumstantial evidence.

In general some fans (myself included) find the theory that Lila suffered from psychological abuse which leads to her particular mannerisms of speech unlikely. But I don't rule it out and given the depth of writing in the show in general, the theories posited by other fans are at least half reasonable.
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>>67269567
She behaves the way she does to fit a character archetype that adds a new dynamic to the show, not much more to it than that
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>>67235828

> 7years old
> Dad is alcoholic
> Stay up one night and hear sounds coming from parents bedroom
> Another man in my moms bed kissing her
> Go tell dad at breakfast next morning
> Parents divorce
> My mom remarries the guy who I caught her in bed with, she sticks me with my dad so she can fool around with him uninterrupted
> Dad focuses his anger over the divorce on me when he drinks
> TFW he's drinking one night and throws my pet goldfish, 'Sam' in the fireplace after he starts one of his drunken arguments when I happen to come home from school .

Sometimes I wonder if that's why I lurk /co/ so much and watch so many cartoons. Trying desperately to recreate the feeling of being a child again and redo it in a happier time.
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>>67270876
You could have put rubbing alcohol in his drinks. It causes blindness. Rubbing alcohol isn't the same as the alcohol you drink but it smells the same. Fuck that bad dude.
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>>67266000
What a perfectly wasted opportunity to have a continual lesson on stranger danger.
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>>67271015
True. He should of beat up his wife instead lol.
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It turns out your wife is a cheating whore. Are you a bad enough dude to throw your 7 year old child's pet goldfish named Sam in the fireplace?
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>>67261259
>stoop kid
he has a fucking stoop, you goddamn retard

it's in his name for chrissake
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>>67261259
Agoraphobic.
I assume the Stoop was to his home, that or he was just a squatter.
Monkeyman was a homeless kid with some issues.
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>>67272798
>Monkeyman was a homeless kid with some issues.
he kept saying 'monkey' or 'monkeyman' unexpectedly. there was definitely something going on with him (psychologically). he also sounded (from what I can recall) like Andy Dick but its been a good 10-15 years since I've seen an episode of Hey Arnold.
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>>67261259
he was autism
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>>67223807
Hear ya, brother. Requiescat in Pace, Papa Dusty.
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>>67222281
I knew a girl like Olga when I was in school. Super pretty, amazing top-notch grades, popular, kind, immaculately dressed and made-up, etc. I remember her sobbing uncontrollably with her head on the desk because she got a B- on a minor math homework assignment. Up until that point we were a like "DAMN I want to BE her" and then after that...not so much.
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>>67222113
>Over 65% ofthe american population are alcoholics
LOL WHAT AM I READING
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So what happened to Arnoldphilshortman? Are all of his past rips kill or did he mirror them somewhere?

Oh and here's the complete Hey Arnold soundtrack I uploaded a while back:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/bn3foclyp3x1nl2/Hey_Arnold!_complete_soundtrack.zip
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>>67274433
>Over 65% ofthe american population are alcoholics
That's the problem with political correctness gone amok in this country. The same people that quote that statistic are the same ones that constitute "sexual harrisment" as a glance or even a compliment the other party didn't want and some of the more extreme ones would include anything and everything (aside from unwanted non-vaginal or unwanted non-anal penetration) as "rape" which is so fucking pathetic. Everyone is a victim now and there's too much MUH FEELINGS! or MUH RIGHTS! or MUH SENSITIVITY!

Someone I know is weak willed and claims that they are an alcoholic and the funny thing is everyone else knows this person just doesn't believe in themself and is naive but they keep saying how they have "no willpower" which is the lie those AA meetings have them hooked on; they've also traded "addiction" to alcohol for addictions to meetings with bad coffee and smoking cigarettes in church basements, hanging out with losers, and support groups that keep telling them they're powerless and they need to subjugate themselves to religion. It's terrible. They also tried slyly putting their AA pamphlets where I would be able to find them (like putting one on top of my keys or sticking a pamphlet in the slit of my car door and their definition of "being an alcoholic" is so batshit crazy that pretty much anyone who has ever tried alcohol once in their lives is 'in serious danger of becoming a full blown alcoholic and needs to come to meetings' its terrible.
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>>67274619
AA meetings are the worst for an alcoholic.
You need actual therapy and consultation with a psychologist instead.
Those circlejerking faggots are begging to be glassed.
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>>67274619
> their definition of "being an alcoholic" is so batshit crazy

Do you have any of their quotes on this? Not doubting you, just curious.
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>>67274433
>18 and over
>18
>drinking age is 20 to 22
>they filled their data with people who aren't part of the data at all. Most kids said no just to be sure the poll wasn't a honeypot.

That data is false.
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>>67275048
I've since yelled at the person for dumping the pamphlets on me and lying that they didn't know what I was talking about when I called them out on trying to bombard me with them and it's been 2 years since but look up 'AA pamphlets' on a search and you'll probably find the one I always remember finding on my car or conveniently placed where I would find them and have to read them...

There's one in particular that is colored yellow and has the headline 'A Quiz...' and it asks if any of the following 10-15 statements apply to you (and they're all rigged do everyone will automatically fail it/there is no way to pass) such as:
-have you ever drank on the weekends
-have you ever drank alone
-have you ever had or combined beer with liquor and/or wine on the same drinking session
-have you ever had more than one alcoholic drink in one sitting

There's some other bizarre ones there but I remember seeing those and thought 'by their standards, EVERYONE in college or highschool is a fucking alcoholic!!'
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>>67275139
Wow, according to those I'm an alcoholic, despite the fact that I have about 5 drinks per year! Nice!
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>>67275189
Here, this isn't the one I kept getting given to me but the questions and format of this pamphlet are more or less the same one that I kept getting and note the fact where it says 'if you answer yes to even ONE of the questions', you're in deep shit: http://www.abbotsfordaa.org/take-the-quiz.html

(#6 is fucking hilarious considering most dates involve drinking alcohol at some point anyways)
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>>67274619
Hit the nail on the head. I heard that statistic about half of women being raped in their lifetime as well. Crazy bastards.

Also
>support groups that keep telling them they're powerless and they need to subjugate themselves
Yep, that's pretty much how they act. This is a great read:
http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-cult_a0.html
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>>67275075
Source: http://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/AA70/AA70.htm

Here's a fragment on that age group:
Young Adult Drinking—Research shows that people are most likely to drink the heaviest in their late teens and early twenties (11). In 2001–2002, about 70 percent of young adults, or about 19 million people, reported drinking in the year preceding this survey (12). NESARC data are helping to better define drinking among young adults. For example, Do college students drink more than their noncollege student peers? To answer this question, Dawson and colleagues (13) used NESARC data to estimate rates of heavy episodic (or binge2) drinking, alcohol abuse, and alcohol dependence among adults ages 18–29.
The researchers then looked at the relationship of these rates to student status and residence. They found that although rates of heavy episodic drinking were slightly higher for college students than for noncollege students, the greatest differences were related to where those young adults lived. For example, about a third of both college students and other college-age youth who lived with their parents or other relatives reported heavy episodic drinking in the past year. In contrast, 46.5 percent of college students living off campus and 51.8 of those living on campus reported heavy episodic drinking, as did 40 percent of other college-age youth living independently. The authors conclude that heavy episodic drinking and AUDs are common among all young adults, not just those attending college.
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>>67274433
>18 and over
Where I live kids way younger than that drink. Your numbers are wrong. More than half of the american population are alcoholics.
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>>67243310
Tumblr statistics are.
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>>67276183
You only have three sentences in your post, but all three of them manage to be have no logical relation to any other sentence in your post.

In addition to 2/3 of them being dead wrong.
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hey arnold or recess

which was better
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>>67276321
Hey Arnold hands down
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>>67264991
Care to elaborate?
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>>67274619
I'm getting tired of people shitting on AA because they're just parroting shit Seth McFarland and South Park said about addiction not being real.

AA saved my Dad's life. And he's fucking happy with where he is in life now because of it. He hasn't even gone to a meeting in years, and he's not anti-alcohol. Ever since he stopped drinking his life has gotten infinitely better.
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>>67277023
>parroting shit Seth McFarland and South Park said about addiction not being real.
Pretty sure they never said that
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>>67277050
Both family guy and South Park had episodes bashing AA that heavily implied that addiction isn't real. And that everyone is more than capable of "cutting back" on substance abuse, and shouldn't need anyone's help to do it.
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>>67233799
That room was originally supposed to be used as a Vivarium/Green House.
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>>67235607
>She's the one that Arnold should have ended up with in the movie
Fucking why, though? Irrational Shipping fuck off.
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>>67250169
>Anti-Leela
Such sultry young girls in this show, I swear.
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>>67277297
>she wanted to go skinny dipping
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So I didn't watch this show as a kid, but I've been hearing about how good it was lately. I might give it a watch. I just have one question. What's up with the release dates for the last season?
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>>67277016
>Wasted away again in margaritaville. Searching for my lost shaker of salt...
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I miss the days when anything that was slightly mature or not 100% kiddy wasn't considered "wow that's kinda dark bro".
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>>67220085
>>67217739

My mom suffered from chronic migraines when I was growing up, so at least once a week she'd be ill and tired, so I just assumed Mariam was sick all the time


Also yes, my parents were a dry family and I never saw anyone drink alcohol until I was 10
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ARNOLD ADVETURE TIME
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>>67278250
this is neo-/co/ (aka /co/mblr)
anything will trigger people
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>>67229186

>Iggy fucked up so hard he got written out of existence

kek
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Oh god I remember this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q-2fNTjrOI
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>>67265600

>Garold legit thinking he was going to manage a country music singer and make money

A ridiculous pipe dream if anything
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>>67217868
>watching that episode somehow made the Vietnam war even more sad
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>>67279056

Arnold's reaction here was just dumb. Great fucking tell you tumor headed chump.

You know there's one episode that does legit make me rage when I think about it. Recall the one where Stinky became a commercial advertiser for Yahoo soda and was a big success? Life was finally going right for that poor fuck and his equally poor father (they lived in a fucking cabin in the middle of a city ffs).

Then he finds out the director thinks he's dumb. Overhears a conversation about people thinking a shallow-speaking country nugget is, surprise, an uneducated pleb. Surprise, Stink gets angry.

The next day they're offering him a $1mil contract, and you know what he does? He refuses. His father, who probably has worked a long and painful life to scrape together an existence to keep his son alive, is begging him to sign the contract. Stinky won't sign it because why? LOL I'M NOT A FOOL

It infuriates me so much, especially how the show tried to process this as a 'good' thing. Who fucking cares what some schmuck thinks of you? Because of some idiotic inbred pride, he refuses, returning to a life of stupidity and poverty.

Unconditional anger, I hate that retarded big nosed fuck.
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>>67279177

Realistcally, its called keeping the status quo, which is why cartoons and tv shows are shit at actual character development. any event or action which could change the character is shot down in 23 minutes.

Then the writers say "its not about money!! stinky is right!!"

Then real life people says "why the fuck would a hick poor boy turn down 1mil"
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>>67274619
>/co/: able to turn mocking an idiot for thinking 65% of the country are alcoholics into bitching about feminism

You have a problem /co/.
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>>67279248

I do forget that it's status quo, it's just a shame it went about it so stupidly. What an archaic lesson and I shake my fist at it!

It's always about the money.
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>>67242461
you probably didn't help with the tension by siding against your mom all the time
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>>67224017

Please post a picture of this.

>>67222113
>65%

Jesus christ anon does everyone in your family drink? Are you from an indian reservation or something?
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>>67222753

I strive for that award every day anon. Every. Day.
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>>67222113
there's a difference between drinking a lot and needing to drink you fucking retard. grow up
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>>67277898
They aired those episodes once in a blue moon in between months of hiatuses. I think some of those episodes were presented by Nick as "special" episodes to excuse themselves. Obviously it definitely wasn't the Hey Arnold production team's fault as they weren't in charge of scheduling air dates. Basically, the show was "cancelled" a few years before the last few episodes aired.
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>>67235607
>>67247593


These guys get it
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>>67247593
One of the most important experiences of my life was when my gradeschool crush and I almost hooked up. I came back from college for break, met up with him at a neighbor's block party. We got really close, but then. Sex problems. I couldn't perform. And then he told me it was for the best, he had a girlfriend.

I always identified with Helga as a kid. Weird girl with a fucked up family who gets waaaay too attached to someone who was nice to her. And getting the guy, the one I thought would never ever look at me, that was magic. Even though it turned out kind of shitty, it was amazing. And I learned that the guy I idealized was just a regular person after all.

It was weird and awkward and shameful, but also one of the best things that ever happened.
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>>67277297
They lived in New York, after all.
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>>67280965

I thought it was west coast?
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>>67279177
>Overhears a conversation about people thinking a shallow-speaking country nugget is, surprise, an uneducated pleb.

Wasn't Stinky quite well-spoken? Sure, he had that country slang going but it didn't seem to me like he was dumb and uneducated. Oh well.

I know where you're coming from, denying 1 million Dollars is not exactly great and I guess he should've just swallowed his pride for the well-being of his family but it also showed that you shouldn't let others belittle you and that you should stick to your principles which very few people do nowadays
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>mfw both parents mixed booze and pain killers
>mfw when this show made me feel like I wasn't the only person with this problem
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>>67279303
>It's always about the money.
It's called having self-respect, anon
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>>67217811

Are you sure? I just thought she was narcoleptic.
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>>67282309
>Are you sure? I just thought she was narcoleptic.

I thought she suffered from depression.
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>Stinky is canonically a vampire
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>>67279056
It wasn't a good episode, but I always just rolled with it as a kid. It seemed like it was being overly exaggerated like that go cart episode. It was supposed to seem big to the kids because they had such a limited view of the world.
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>>67222141
Its a dress bro,, you can even see on the left there where the sweater is pulled slightly away from it.
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