Reminder that in MoS, Pa Kent practically told young Superman that he should have let a bus full of schoolchildren drown for reasons that are still not entirely clear
>they're assholes so it's okay to watch them burn to death
>the kids too!
woah-hoho, watch them edges son.
>Westboro Baptist Church
He would set it on fire himself. Always remember that Superman was conceived as a revenge fantasy by a pair of little men, and setting a church of fire is well within the intention of his creators.
Edit that so where it says "Westboro Baptist Church" there is just a blank white sign and we'll have one hell of an "oh exploitable" on our hands. It could start its own thread.
"Who is Supes leaving to die, /co/?"
>that are still not entirely clear
His intentions were very clear.
If people found out his son was special or different they'd take him away or make Clark's life miserable.
He was looking out for his son above all.
The "Maybe" was just him wrestling with knowing that what Clark did was right but also knowing that Clark put his own livelihood in jeopardy.
He wasn't using heat vision on them. He was burning down their warehouse full of Mexican-shooting gear and then laughing because they cried about it.
Superman, being an illegal immigrant, is pro-illegal immigrant.
And then he realized that Pa would have been mad at him for being a gigantic faggot and he felt bad.
He was looking out for his son by telling him that he should be ashamed to be different and never use his powers to help them. Father of the year. Sure they say in the film 'he knew you would do great things' but HE never actually says that stuff on camera
Exactly. He realized later how much of a faggot he had been and that he had disobeyed PA's most important teaching: "never punch down"
They weren't neo-nazis though. They were just supremacists like the KC version of the Americommandos.
Unless you serve Darkseid, then Superman will burn you himself
Because Kevin Costner cares more about his own son than other kids, so he doesn't want to put the whole "everyone knows he's a god child" stuff on him at such a young age
>telling him that he should be ashamed to be different and never use his powers to help them
Is that you what you thought he was on about?
He never said Clark should be ashamed or that he should never help. He was just worried he was being too overt about it.
It wasn't an analyzed and critical view of the subject. He was worried about his son. That's the long and short of it.
Man of Steel had lots of problems and many with Pa Kent's portrayal, but it wasn't like he was literally a super-shaming shitlord.
No. Parademons are Hunger Dogs (i.e. the really fucking poor people who live on Apokolips) who've been brainwashed and upgraded by Darkseid into serving as his shock troops.
Superman kills the poor bastards by the dozens.
Supes would save Hitler from a burning building only to trap him in an inescapable prison. This naturally results in Hitler returning later with super-powers somehow, but thems the breaks with superhero morality.
He's not a joke because he broke their racism-guns. He's a jerk because he laughed at them when he crushed their dreams.
But he was like 20, he's allowed to be a jerk, especially to racists.
>This naturally results in Hitler returning later with super-powers somehow
And then he literally kills all the Jews. Because like Batman, Superman was too much of a pussy coward to do what was neccessary.
But he wouldn't want to be as bad as him! Killing is never justified! Time to lock Mega Hitler up again and hope he doesn't kill again. Thanks Supes.
Dammit Morrison, you edgy shitbag.
>not killing Mega-Hitler
There's always another way, and sometimes that way is murdering Mega-Hitler
Heck, Stalin was a better dad than MoS Pa Kent
>there are people who like Jon Kent to be some kind of moralistic christ-figure who gives Superman all his morality
There's a reason Jon Kent is never the moral center of Superman's life - he's just a man. A man can't possibly give a god advice. Pic related.
Actually, several Hitlers have died at the cruel hands of Superman already
He would help them so they could help him murder all homosexuals in America.
He needs to murder, he's Man of Murder after all.
Honestly though, now that I've seen some of the pages linked here where he clearly states killing as a last resort is okay... What's all the fucking Man of Murder outrage about? And I don't mean /tv/ trolling, I mean all these reviews.
the murder thing was more an icing on an already well baked 'not Superman' cake. The film took so much from the Superman lore and completely altered it that it left a lot of fans unsatisfied
A better question: What would Stardust do?
The point is it's a cunty thing to do and with all the power and legacy behind superman he should never be acting cunty.
It's not that it was wrong for a person to do, it's that it's wrong for SUPERMAN to do.
That's an edgy comment there anon, carful, you could puncture the hull of an Empire class Fire Nation battleship, leaving thousands to drown at sea.
Because it's so edgy
honestly, after watching a video of the wbc in action, i now believe that these cunts are just a bunch of offensive and misguided people. i think each of the individuals are in the cult because they're each personally a little bit fucked up.
all they've ever done is hold up signs and protest. i don't even think they use bullhorns.
if superman can't stand to save a bunch of dummies from themselves then i don't think he's much of a superman at all. the wbc is utterly harmless. annoying, but harmless.
a terrorist group on the other hand? let allah sort those cocksuckers out.
>Anybody who wouldn't do the same doesn't know what the Westboro Church is.
hyperbole and nastiness will not carry you far, 4channer.
have you ever seen these people in action? have you ever watched a video of their protests or listened to them speak about their views? they come across as harmless idiots, not something to be feared and hated. they seem to have hateful manners but not hateful intent, and honestly i think the reason they're so hateful is because they are so misguided and dumb.
their turnover rate is incredibly high. that says soemthing in itself; theirs is a diseased culture.
letting the wbc burn is like letting a ward of retards burn.
...but then again, that might just be the thing to make them realize that preaching from hate isn't a very effective conversion strategy.
...nah, they're too dumb and too dense for that.
they're idiots anon. the wbc are double digit iq, schizoid idiots.
Here anon, try again tomorrow
>if superman can't stand to save a bunch of dummies from themselves
Yes, some random dude who is Christian is responsible for the political murders masked as religions done more than a few hundred years ago.
While we are at that, did you hit yourself with a whip for murdering and kidnapping Africans? because, you know, white people did that, and you are white.
>the murder thing was more an icing on an already well baked 'not Superman' cake. The film took so much from the Superman lore and completely altered it that it left a lot of fans unsatisfied
What? Giant chunks of the film were direct ripoffs of Waid and Byrne.
Probably save the, but through plot do it in such a way that they learn a valuable lesson about not being such dickwads.
Like make Apollo d oit or something. The details are hazy, but an import lesson would need to be learned.
I didn't catch all of that storytime, but I think earth or at least gotham was so polluted he didn't have his full power
he gets shot up and, facing death, self immolates at wayne manor