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ITT: Tell us the moment when the Simpsons became dead to you

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ITT: Tell us the moment when the Simpsons became dead to you
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Stop making this thread everyday.
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Tennis the Menace, Bart making Homer scream a symphony by adjusting the kitchen sink to fuck with the shower temperature.
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I had an extremely high tolerance of the show; but Mr.Bergstrom in that new episode completely crossed the line, even if I knew the show was total shit by like season 18
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>>64511641

>Tax & Spend! Tax & Spend!

Ah, the days when the republicans weren't a chuckle fuck of warring factions and the democrats pretended to be a bulwark against government overreach.
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>>64512521
>and the democrats pretended to be a bulwark against government overreach

"The ultimate aim of all political factions regardless of orientation is to use government to persecute everyone they don't like."
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When they announced Family Guy's un-cancellation.

Because then I knew it'd turn into a desperate scramble to stay relevant and popular as audiences slowly migrated to MacFarlane shows.
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>>64511641
When it stopped making beautifully crafted "so bad its good" type ridiculous episodes, and mostly stuck to celebrity dicksucking and boring episodes when it came to bad eps.
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I dunno. When was the last time there was an actual plot in an episode outside of "The Simpsons meet [insert celebrity guest here]?"
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>>64511641
When Homer went from the
>Caring father who tried his best with hilarious results
to
>The mentally retarded character
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>>64512678
The episode where Jimbo's gf shows Bart her tits - she was just voiced by Tress MacNeille instead of a guest star.
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>>64511641
I won't eat anything that casts a shadow

or maybe the movie, although it's arguable that the extra length allowed it to become the watermark/swan song for what would come after.
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>Lisa: Yes. I'm thrilled. We've regained our family honor, and we're 1/64th black.
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>>64513123
disgusting
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>>64513123

Wasn't this the first plot that the Simpsons actually stole from Family Guy rather than the other way around?
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The Tony Hawk episode really sticks with me for some reason.
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>>64513664
Simpsons stole "father becomes grim reaper" from family guy in a TTHoH before that.
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>>64512521
You don't know what the Republicans are really supposed to stand for, do you?
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>>64513845
Me too. Maybe because they emphasized it being the 300th episode so much and focused on having Tony Hawk rather than jokes. The plot isn't too bad it's just excessively boring
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Anything after 30 minutes over Tokyo, I don't even remember the next episode I think that's why everything remarkable about this show died for me.
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>>64512405
>a silly little gag
>made you quit watching
Like...that's the tipping point for you?
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When the Simpsons started turning into a fucking kids show.

>sideshowbobhasfacerippedoffbymaggie.png

Seriously who watches new Simpsons? What sad pathetic loser still thinks this shit is funny?

>omg lady gaga on the Simpsons!
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>>64515755
>Seriously who watches new Simpsons?
People who want to fuck the characters.
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>>64515583
Except strong arms of the ma was the 300 episode.
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When they broke up Krabappel and Skinner.

Their love affair was one of the ultra-few bright spots of the Scully era and wanted to see them live happily ever after. But NOOOOOO! They got broken up and in the worst possible way in one if not THE worst episodes ever.......

That was the episode that broke me from being a lifelong, obsessive fan
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The last episode of season 12
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>>64515520

After turtle-boy in congress filibustered his own bill I'm not sure even republicans know what they stand for.

>we're...
>small government
>big state
>localist
>state rightist
>anti-immigrant
>pro-cuban-exile
>anti-drug
>anti-abortion
>anti-pregnancy
>pro-viagra
>populist
>voter disenfranchising
>freedom loving
>mass surveilling
>pro-law&order
>pro-gun
>anti-tax
>anti-deficit
>pro-prison
>anti-crime
>pro-death penalty
>pro-lifers
>and we WILL filibuster bills that we ourselves introduce if we don't give ourselves whatever it is we finally decide we want in that bill.
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Honestly, everything after the movie. Like the movie, pumped to see what the new episodes would be like.

Even 14 year old me was like: "What the fuck is this shit?"
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This video
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YNrn-7zjmYw
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>>64515808
I know it's not technically the 300th episode but didn't they emphasize it being the "300th episode" anyway?
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>>64516159
Yes. They were wrong but the people who knew better and corrected them are just smelly internet neckbeard virgins anyway, lel.
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>>64516066

I'm starting to hate casuals
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>>64516159
>>64516206

What caused the miscounting? What were they not counting as "an episode"?
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>>64511641
Between that horrible cartoon dry spell era of 2003-2010 i would consume mounds of Family Guy and The Simpsons and having little access to the internet didn't help much, i had to watch what was on TV so i tolerated the show for a long time.
The moment i said nope was when they started having actual brands from real life and going as far as zooming in on the logos.
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>>64515780
I understand all the celebrity cameos, but really, Joker?
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HD opening. Now I can instantly recognize episodes as not muh Simpsons.
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>>64515780
Wow, that's Family Guy tier. Fuck. Double dead to me.
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>>64516734
This made me laugh.
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>>64516836
Oh boy you shure told him
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>>64516739
Did you know that Sky TV in Britain started showing new episodes with the old 480i intro because people would change the channel as soon as they saw the HD one?
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>>64516968
I don't know if that's clever or just sad.
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>>64513705
A lot of liberals kiss black ass even after they've been culturally enriched by a bunch of niggers
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When Selma adopted that Asian kid.
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>>64519893
It's too bad they never made any merch of her because it would be so cute to have a plushie of her and Maggie on your desk.
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>>64519979
No.
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>>64520254
Who is Jake and the Ice King?
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>>64519979
What might be wrong with that pray tell?
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>>64520398
Many, many reasons. :)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyH72ClNheA

Among many others before that
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>>64520740
Oh god, it hurts, it hurts!
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>>64520755
It always can get worse anon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNrn-7zjmYw
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>>64519979
Yeah, fuck that shit. I wouldn't mind however to have plushies of Lisa, Jessica Lovejoy, Allison, and Gina with removable outfits you could swap and stuff.
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>>64520831
Could their outfits also include panties? Just for completeness sake.
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>>64520740
It's a stupid fucking idea but at least the execution was pretty good.
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>>64520806
What the fuck was that even a parody of?
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I love all these "this is stupid", and "Simpsons is dead" comments, cause most of them aren't complete sentences. If you want to say why it is dumb, and or dead ok but you have to explain, otherwise you aren't expressing an opinion you are just giving a 5 year old's reason for not wanting to do something. -_-
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>>64515594
The weirdest part is that the episode wasn't even that bad, it's just that everything after it was.
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>>64516734
The Joker was actually in an early episode.
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The iPhones.
Has product placement always been this bad?
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>>64515780
This was literally the last episode of the show I ever watched. I just couldn't stand it anymore.
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I can't pinpoint where exactly I started to dislike them, but I remember a lot of people being "upset" on S16-19, where the VA's for the dub where changed, and everyone but Bart sounded like shit (especially Homer and Lisa). I was around 12 when that happened so it wasn't a complete deal breaker back then, but I now I just can't stand those episodes, and pretty all other stuff people have said (because Apple being cancer irl just wasn't enough).

>>64521408
you know, I watched it for the first time on a rerun, and just before it there was an episode about Lisa protesting against the use of genetically modified foods, I died a little inside.
the only not-retarded thing I can remember of that episode is that Edna was removed from the show
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Semi-related but this shit is hilarious:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ng6ue_vw7V0

Does anyone else do shit like this?
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>>64516296
Dead Bart
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>>64512761
Speaking of Tress, my disgust for the Simpsons is almost parallel with her level of involvement in the show. Lindsay Naegle is one of the worst, most grating characters I've ever seen on primetime TV and there was a stretch where she appeared like every other week to get some sort of shitty plot rolling. That one with the cell phone towers was brutal.
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Maude's death was when I knew the golden age was over for good. I stopped catching new episodes around S13, stopped watching entirely around S15. Have seen exactly one episode in the last four seasons.
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>>64521264
No because they used to make fun of the products.
>here are the butter fingers sir
> not even the fire wants them
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I really forget what episode was my last and the one where I decided I was done with the show.

Maybe because it wasn't any one thing. Maybe it's just that the show became so bad and so -boring- that I forgot to watch it anymore.
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>>64523310
Yes I do.
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>>64524972
Uh, circumcised. Not quite sure how that one happened.
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>>64521028
The Harlem Shake. I can't even say you are a basement dweller who lives on the internet, because that was all over the internet.
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>Remplazar a Humberto Vélez
>ever
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>>64525171
Never heard of it. I'm sorry. What the hell was it?
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>>64525212
Just look it up.
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>>64525212
Youtubeshit.
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>>64525212
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harlem_Shake_(meme)
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>>64525230
That shit is dumb.
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>>64511641
The episode after they get that dog for Christmas. Seriously, adding a show stealing pet to the family dynamic degrades the interpersonal relationships between the main characters. But, no ratings are down. Must add fresh life to the our primary cash cow says Grand Overlord FOX.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-t61mrPdpo
NEW SIMPSUMS
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>thread got derailed by /pol/ shit
>some even say those kind of threads are nothing but /pol/ switch and bait
>mods delete the racist posts

Based mods, doing their work, at least

also
>old Simpson vs new Simpsons thread
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>>64525309
Agreed. Homer's voice was immediately turned into a cartoonish parody of itself, and there was nary a frosty chocolate milkshake excursion to be had.
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>>64525400
Moderation has been quite good today. I even saw shitposts deleted from /v/. It might just be janitors, though.
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>>64515520
>You don't know what the Republicans are really supposed to stand for, do you?
Apparently, neither do they.
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>>64525395
Is this an actual episode of The Simpsons? The plot, I mean. Is this a summary of an actual Zombie Simpsons plot? I don't want to believe it. It's not fucking true.
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>>64525395
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>>64525672
"'TIS!" replied Aunt HELga.
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>>64512741
>mentally retarded character
Eh, I can tolerate this
>complete asshole who antagonizes people for no reason and laughs like a psychopath
what the fuck
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>>64525589
Ha! Zing!
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its great
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HILARIOUS RUNNING JOKE
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>Talk about how bad the Simpsons have become
>Wow anon, will nothing meet your ridiculous standards! The Simpsons are still good, you are just older now!

I just fucking can't stand my family.
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>>64515780
so so so sooooooo glad I don't watch anymore
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When all the dark humor disappeared.

>Watched the King of the Hill and had nightmares of dying like C.W. McAllister.

looking back on it the episode was hilarious.
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>>64511641
I don't know when I first sensed something was off, but I gave up when "Frank Grimes" came back, except it was his son. It was perfect as a stand alone episode. It should never have happened.
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>>64529518
This and Arnim Tanzarian is what sorta made me lose interest
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>>64529722
Maybe I'm a hypocrite for loving one and hating the other. If the show was already terrible by the time Armin Tamzarian, I didn't know it. So I forgave it.

It was a unique enough idea. At least it wasn't merely a shitty, inexplicable excuse for a dead character to show up again.
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>>64529815
There were still good episodes after Arnim Tanzarian, but you could definitely tell the quality shifted.

Seasons 2 through 8 are god-tier. 9 and 10 are good watch. Especially The City of New York vs Homer Simpson
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>>64529930
>The City of New York vs Homer Simpson
One of my favorite episodes, if not my number one. And not because of events that followed.
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I stopped watching regularly after season 13. The only reason I kept watching before that was the Weird Al cameo episode that otherwise was terrible.
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It wasn't obvious for me until the movie. I had been watching it out of habit for a while and not realizing it.
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>>64517359

because they want it in the ass genius, for liberals, blacks are penises whit legs.
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Season 9 is when I cannot watch any longer. Which is ironic because this is when I began working for snpp.com. But Seasons 1-3 are the only ones I really respond to. I was the same age as Bart when the show debuted and his impact on kids back then was significant.
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>>64516247
>starting
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>>64525395
Just watched, I'm fucking dying. Someone hire that guy.
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>>64525754
I love you Joe
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>>64531711
SECONDED!

>>64532523
<3
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>>64532597
How long does it take to make a Simpsums?
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>>64520806
>>64520740

I like it.

I'm a life long fan it seems.
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>>64532656
I dunno. I mean, for a while there I was managing to get them done weekly, but I've gotten crazier with all the FX and editing so now it's a little longer.

Obviously it doesn't take a full week anyway. In terms of actual TIME allotted to working on them... ummm... I don't really know. Hours?! A number of hours. I imagine anywhere from 5 to 12 hours, which isn't very specific. I obviously don't keep track. Maybe I'll try keeping track one time and see...

But I can just generally say that the writing takes barely any time, I basically do it simultaneously while watching the episode. And the audio recording also only takes 15 minutes at most. It's just the audio and video editing and drawing bad art. That's just oodles of time spaced out over the evenings of a week or so.
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Whenever the fuck it was I stopped giving a shit about THoH

I would be hyped for them every year and want with all my might But I think I missed and didn't care for the first time at whichever one that was after Cat Marge
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OH the Simpsons became dead to me (even though I keep watching it :( ) at multiple times. The panda rape was one because it was a panda rape. And then, oddly, two of the others were with Marge.

One was It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad Marge where she tries to kill a woman with a giant broken glass ice cream cone. I think it just stuck out as Marge's character being completely destroyed. Before she was a lame, overly moralistic mother and now she was an insane person trying to murder somebody in an ice cream shop.

And then the other one is the one where she decides to work out and get all musclely because the inciting incident is Snake mugs her and takes her pearls. That scene is so fucking weird and handled in a completely serious and dramatic fashion that just made me think the people making the show no longer had any idea what the tone of the show they were making was supposed to be.

Also, although it wasn't DEAD to me yet, before all that I just remember the Sherry Bobbins episode being disappointing. It was just the first episode I was like "Weird... that wasn't very funny..."
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>>64532867

>Most of the time is spent on drawing/editing

This is exactly why I admire your work and why I know I could never do it. I can't draw or edit it for shit and it seems like so much fucking work compared to your actual written material.
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>>64533152
>she tries to kill a woman with a giant broken glass ice cream cone
Weren't they copying some movie?
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>>64533255
haha I can't draw either. That's the most nightmarish part by far. Every time I have to draw a new character I avoid it for as long as I can and try to think of ways to get out of it, like I just made Luann out of Marge and Milhouse combined and I was so happy when I thought of doing that.

Editing I like! But it does get a bit fucking old after a while.

>>64533302
Is it? I can't find anything about it. It definitely went over my head if it was. It just made Marge look absolutely batshit to me.
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>>64525754
>see this reply
>don't realize this is the actual maker of Simpsums until much later
>the maker of these glorious videos replied to me and I didn't get to appreciate it
;_;
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>>64516066
>Throwback Thursday: Never forget ... the Homer Shake.
Are you fucking kidding me
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>>64516066
Wait, shit.
Bartman is still on the show?
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>>64533612
That's what you get for not spending every night on /co/ anon
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>>64533612
Please, please. Take all the time you need.

Seriously, though, I'm really thankful you guys enjoy them. /co/ are easily still my biggest supporters.
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>>64533443
Seems it's loosely copied from The Hand That Rocks the Cradle, but I was thinking there was a specific inspiration for the ice cream cone bit. No, it's just crazy...
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>>64515780
The fuck, context?
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>>64533939
His face is made out of corn of something.
I don't know.
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Not really the stopping point but I saw this scene when flipping through cable
> Bart and homer are in counselling to be better to each other
> counselor makes homer FUCKING TRY TO KILL HIMSELF so Bart can save him, so they can appreciate each other I don't know
> Bart sits there and texts while homer is literally struggling for his life in the background
I mean, fuck.
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>>64533933
Ah, yes! Crazy, yes.

>>64533939
>>64533974
The previous Sideshow Bob episode had a gross Face/Off-ish plot where Bob cut his face off and put on someone else's. This is just a callback to that episode, that his face is still on all loose, I guess...

>>64533994
Yes, this was another really horrible moment that stuck out to me. Awful.
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>>64533825
I'd known that was his trip before, but forgot until I reopened the thread a few minutes ago.
>>64533916
Thank you for sitting through the visual and aural rape of one of the greatest cartoons ever just to provide us with entertainment.

What's worse, watching zombie SpongeBob or zombie Simpsons?
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>>64533994
http://simpsonswiki.com/wiki/Love_Is_a_Many-Strangled_Thing
Here's the link if anybody is wondering
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>>64534061
>Bob cut his face off and put on someone else's
Simpsons really is pathetic now, isn't it?
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>>64534070
I always liked Spongebob but never watched it with consistency so I don't know firsthand about this. But it is a show I am amazed to know is still on and I'm sure that can't be good for it.

>>64534153
It's totally destroyed. It barely even feels like a show. Just collections of strange ideas.
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>>64534254
Oh, you've seen all the episodes, right? I vaguely remember a Christmas themed episode about Abe telling war stories or something like that.
Does anyone know what that is?
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>>64534301
I have seen all of them but I have so much trouble recalling specific episodes because they just blur together.

It seems to be one called "Simpsons Christmas Stories" from the 17th season. It's one of those ones where they just tell three stories and have some stuff vaguely connecting them. Grandpa's story is one of the three.

Reading the synopsis of it on Wikipedia I remember NOTHING.
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>>64534600
The first three seasons of SpongeBob are hilarious and witty as fuck, and only got better as it went along.

Then the movie happened. Season 4 was meh, seasons 5 and beyond are new-Simpsons tier compared to old SpongeBob.

Family Guy and SpongeBob:
>Premiered in 1999
>Seasons 4 and beyond, which began airing in 2005, are given much lower reception than what came before it
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>>64534676
I saw the movie in theaters actually. I remember it was... fine??

I should watch older Spongebob. The few things I saw had jokes that still stick with me. Like when Spongebob is ugly and Patrick keeps shouting "LOOK AT IT! LOOK AT IT! YOUUU LOOK AT IT!" Also, "Can't see my forehead."

I remember a really dark joke that made fun of the day-to-day grind. Some fish guy 's boring life shown in a quick montage. I hadn't seen much of the show and it was a bit mindblowing. I was like OH I didn't realize the humor went to THESE kinds of places.
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>>64534802
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP2jErXpNS4

The movie was good, but it was a last hurrah.
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>>64534980
Yes, this! Awesome, thank you.
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>>64511641

fuck if I even remember, I haven't seen the show since before people figured out eggs are edible. I know one of the last episodes I watched had bart joining a boyband and recording subliminal brainwashing songs for the government, but i was only watching very intermittently by that point so I couldn't give you a hard cut-off date or anything.
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>>64513123

>1/64th

The hell?

With Marge and her sisters (and mother) thick curly hair; they could've done much better than this.
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>>64525395
>C0DA
/v/ery clever
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>>64534600
I remember wondering if all this shit with Santa and Abe's long-lost brother was supposed to be canon or not as it was the only outlandish story of the three.
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I can actually pin point the exact line that killed it for me.

Bart says he wants to do something. Marge says "Get back, Honky cat!"

I don't know why, but that line ruined the Simpsons for me, every episode I watched after it just felt so fucking lifeless and forced.
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>>64525589
Thats the issue when you try to bring in minority factions that actually oppose your politics just to get some more voters.
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>>64511641
The season 10 or so episode where Lisa uses a bus to go to a museum alone and Homer has to go find her or something like that. There were still some good episodes later on, but that was the first episode where I knew things were just wrong.
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>>64536057
That might be in character if she was just repeating it bc she thought it was "cool". Or is that what the writers were trying to do.
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>>64536202
It was at the start of an episode and she just said it out of no where, no context as to why she said it.

It was the writers.
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The episode when they kill Mona. You'd expect something overly emotional, sad and yet happy when Homer tries to climb a mountain so he could free her ashes to the wind and what do I receive? A fucking James Bond parody where it's implied she was only using Homer to stop one of Mr. Burns' hidden factories. Everything and everyone felt so out of character it made me feel there would never be a good Simpson episode anymore. And how right I was.
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>>64536196
That was a season 9 episode, and how in the fuck was that an indicator that things went wrong?

Its probably my favourite episode of that season.
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I actually had a moment with the Simpson's where if it was a new episode and it focused on Lisa, I would just turn it off.
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Weekend at Burnsey's

>The 4/20 medical weed episode
>Homer driving high
>Homer basically abusing it and becoming a stoner hippy
>Marge and Lisa don't even scold him for it
>It was just stupid propaganda done very poorly
>The message literally was "It'd be legal if you were sober"
>2002

The show was declining very hardcore around this time
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>>64536838
>Its probably my favourite episode of that season.
I know, right?
it's also one of the very few episodes about Lisa that don't make me want to punch her
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>>64524314

S13 was when I stopped watching too. Show stopped being funny, I noticed KOTH and Malcolm actually made me laugh and Simpsons just didn't anymore.
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I still like The Simpsons. It has its ups and downs nowadays, but there's always at least one good joke in each episode that makes it still worth checking in.
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>>64536838
It's kinda boring, has few good jokes and no real memorable lines. The russians joke I remember.
The one other thing I remember is Homer getting his head trapped in the bridge, which was too much for me. It was cartoon humor but dunno, even then I expected a little more from The Simpsons.
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>>64529930
Season 10 is an interesting season. Some episodes, like Lisa Gets an "A", feel very much at home with the classic era, but others, like Kidney Trouble and When You Dish Upon a Star, were a harbinger of the show's destruction.
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>>64537027
Not to mention the second half of the episode stops being about weed entirely.
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Season Two Episode 4
No denying.
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The episode where Maggie made a poopy in her diaper and then the dog ate it and then licked the diaper and her fanny clean and then she put the diaper back on.
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>>64511641
When they killed off Fat Tony, and replaced him with his cousin, and then pretended nothing ever happened.

I mean, I can forgive that with Snowball 2. But Fat Tony was an actual character.

At least Principal and the Pauper didnt kill anyone.
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that episode when lisa gets addicted to nicotine
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>>64511641
Whacking Day.

Season 4 showed some bad signs before it like Lisa getting drunk, and Monkeys on typewriters. But Whacking Day was just pure rubbish.
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>>64538803
>Fat Tony was an actual character
Yes, paper thin flanderizations are "characters"
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>>64536062
The irony being that Democrat policies have caused more harm to minorities than anything.
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>>64524228
That was a Scully thing; he was obsessed with Lindsay Naegle for some reason. Of course, Al Jean is obsessed with other annoying characters like Yes Guy and Crazy Cat Woman, so...
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>>64530372
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>>64537463
>Implying a half hour of your time is worth ONE good joke
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>>64524228
>That one with the cell phone towers was brutal.
I like that one.

>You don't know Fonzie? He freed the squares!
>Get out of Archie Bunker's chair! NOW!
>the pen clicking race
There are plenty more good jokes in that episode. It's not the best the Simpsons ever was, but it was still good.
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I think really, after the movie was when it became Zombie Simpsons. You can see as late as Seasons 17-18, there were still some ok episodes in there and they still put it at least a smidgen of effort, but I think after the movie, everyone just completely phoned it in.
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>>64538220
I chuckled anon. At least Simpsons isn't Family Guy-tier.
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>>64520806
>make him say his catch phrase the entire time so people know it's him!
>those poses at the very end
Oh man.
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>>64533152
Marge was always the least interesting of the family and you notice in the classic seasons she gets the fewest episodes centered around here. Even Julie Kavner has said Patty and Selma are her favorite characters.
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>>64521264
I miss when the product/brand parodies were funny and had a point to the,. Now they're just lazy.
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>>64539474
Err...
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>>64540003
>Pfft. I know a genuine Panaphonics when I see it. And look, there's Magnetbox and Sorny.
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>>64537839
When You Dish Upon a Star was only really bad in the final act, IMO.

First two acts had some decent laughs.
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>>64537027
But I enjoyed that one.

>Flanders reading Homer the entire Bible cover-to-cover
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Guess it depends on your pain threshold. I gave up just before the HD switch.
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>>64525589
>neither do they
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>>64539822
But they haven't been vocal about it, that makes all the difference.
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>>64540548
Vocal about what?
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>>64536838
>>64537832
I've never been a praying man, but if you're up there, SAVE ME, SUPERMAN!

>>64536560
It's okay. She appeared more times after that. Like the Inception parody that came out like two years late, where the plot was they had to figure out why Homer kept pissing the bed.
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>>64540649
It was in a dream, though. She's still dead.
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>>64511641
I've always seen Seasons 10-16 as more hit and miss rather than mostly bad. It wasnt until season 17 (specifically, when it went into the HABF run) that I felt the show became mostly bad from that point onwards.
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>>64539925

Man, that's why I can't watch Family Guy. That's just too much shit to go through to get to the corn.
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For me, it was when Lisa went vegetarian. Really, if you decide to change your eating habits for your own personal reasons, that's fine. If you don't like it when people make fun of your lifestyle choices, that's perfectly understandable.

What's NOT okay is forcing your lifestyle choices on others, or going so far as to ruin your father's barbecue by throwing the goddamn pig into the freeway, then try and cast blame on him for your bullshit.
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>>64541378
But that was the entire point of the episode. That you can do things for your own reasons but don't be a cunt about it to other people. The fact that Lisa fucked up Homers BBQ was a bad thing and a fault of the character that she had to work through.
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For me it was when the german voice actor of Marge died and she was replaced by some mediocre comedy parvenu who tried way too hard to immitate the english voice, even though the german voice of Marge was completely different until that point, and extremely well done and iconic at that.

It was somewhere around the 19th or 20th season I think, and that was when I realized how downhill the quality went. I know most people think Simpsons was only good until season 14 or 15, I think, but I grew up with most of the episodes after that and consider them good. Though I haven't seen most of them in a long time.

I'm 20 and soon there will be more bad Simpsons episodes than good that premiered in my lifetime.
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>>64541559
But she didn't. She was the one that drove the damn lawnmower through the barbecue, jacked the pig, and got it tossed into traffic. Whether she learned her lesson or not is irrelevant, because she verbally slaps her father in the face by backpedaling and saying what had happened was his fault as well.

And she only got worse as a character from there.
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>>64541671
...but that's the whole point. You are being silly.

These things you dislike Lisa for in that episode were written especially for this reason, so that you dislike Lisa for them.

Yeah, her character got worse after she became a vegetarian and a buddhist and shit, but the episode itself is rather well done.
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>>64541671
>> Troy McClure starring in Meat and You
>> Not god tier episode
http://videosift.com/video/Troy-McClure-stars-in-MEAT-YOU
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>>64538908
>Whacking Day
>Season 4
>bad
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>>64511641
When Lisa said that she was a Wiccan, in addition to being a Buddhist.

I could put up with her being a Buddhist for superficial reasons (vegetarianism isn't one of the Buddha's actual fucking teachings, it's not a precept or anything close to that) but throwing neo-paganism on top of that was too much.

Also, she was tipping her fedora pretty hard in that episode with the angel fossil. Isn't Lisa supposed to be "spiritual?" Then why was she being such a condescending bitch towards her own mother for believing in angels?

So like, is Lisa a real Buddhist? Is she a neo-pagan? Is she a trendy new-ager who takes bits and pieces of whatever religion is coolest at the time? Or is she an atheist who treats people with disdain for their belief in spirits? She can't be all of that at the same time.
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>>64511641
When Neds wife died, 300th episode I think it was? Anyway, haven't seen it since
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>>64541889
I really didn't like WD, but otherwise I think that's a troll post.
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The show I felt had some marked improvement in Seasons 14-15 versus the Scully era, but after 16 and especially the movie it just totally collapsed into a pile of shit.
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The HD switch was the end for me. God, I hate the new animation.
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>>64541897
She's an agnostic contrarian.
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I have a feeling this show should've never had a floating timeline. It should've been stuck in the early 90's.
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>>64541947
Soon there will be yet another episode rewriting Homer's and Marge' past, this time Homer will find out on early myspace that Marge is pregnant with Bart, and hillarity ensues from there.
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>>64542001
Exactly, this show should've had a set in stone timeline, nothing more, nothing else. Anyone else feels really weird when they see flatscreen TVs and smartphones in The Simpsons?
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>>64542001
And Skinner, or "Tanzenarian" or whatever his name is supposed to be now, will become a Gulf War vet.
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>>64542012
What irks me the most is the art style of new characters completely clashing with the simplistic art style of the Simpsons. Lisa, Bart, Marge, they all have one solid colour as their clothing without any details, but in episodes like the one where Homer is a helicopter parent and Lisa has new "popular" friends they all look so absolutely terrible, since they are drawn as "hip" and "up to date" and "cool", and are just overloaded with shitty details. This "modern" crap, and yes, smartphones are a part of that, just doesn't fit the simplistic timelessness of the old Simpsons.

>>64542016
I actually liked that episode.

But remember when Burns was a veteran of the Krim war? (Which took place in the 19th century.) Or maybe that was just a comic, since it makes no sense anyway.

Also, in the earlier seasons Burns was only like 88 or something, wasn't he? Now he's 106.
I can't wait for an episode about the Nahasapemapetilan-octuplets in their late teens when Bart is still stuck in 4th grade.
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>>64542064
>>64542012
Yeah, the problem is that the Simpsons tried to be always up to date, in a time like the 2000s where a lot of shit was changing very quickly. Remember that episode where Homer gets a cellphone, and it's something special because not everyone had a cellphone at the time that episode aired? It was completely ridiculous and unbelievable only about 3 or 4 years later. Simpsons episodes started to age a lot faster than the older ones, which still remain, well, timeless.
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>>64513664
>>64513856
>episode where Lois becomes martial art expert and rapes Peter
>episode where Marge becomes buff as hell and rapes Homer

Everyone forgets that one.
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>>64542064
>I actually liked that episode.


Heretic!

Summon the inquisitors!
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>>64540003
It's really not funny to change one letter. That doesn't make it a parody.

Zii
Mapple
Mixar

Fucking lazy.
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>>64511641
The Simpsons slowly suffocated to death, it didn't die instantly.
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>Making episodes where the timeline moves forward
>Grandpa still served in WW2
>Skinner is a Vietnam vet
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>>64542211
Wasn't that all explained away in that one meta episode (Behind the Laughter or something) where they are just actors eating anti-aging hormones?

Kinda like the Super Mario characters are just a group of actors, as shown in Super Mario Bros 3.
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The voice actors and producers of Simpsons sicken me since they know that Simpsons needs to stop and say great things about new seasons. They won't stop because it's easy millions. Any one of them could just stop and retire and live the rest of their lives with the money they have or get another voice job on a show that isn't shit.
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>>64542232
Well the joke was Homer was feeding Lisa them to extend the life of the show.
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>>64542255
>or get another voice job on a show that isn't shit.
No show pays as well as the Simpsons.

Also, if you get money, you become greedy and want more money. It's human nature.
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>>64511641
The moment my parents caught me watching it even though I had been told not to and they got rid of our cable.
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>>64542012
Pisses me off. Looks super wrong. Also, I know this was never THAT locked down and fell away even during the show's better years,but at one point the Simpsons were supposed to be sort of lower-middle class, occasionally dealing with money issues and now they just have shit all the time. They have loads of tablets and a flatscreen and just whatever the shit the writers want them to have at any given point and it bugs me.
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>>64542346
Yes, I can see where you are coming from. Homer constantly has money for some reason. There was one example where this was extremely apparent, but I can't pinpoint it in my memory.
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>>64542346
This also brings me to another issue, wasn't The Simpsons originally just something like "hey life sucks but at least we can laugh at it"? I don't remember seeing a lot of that in the newer episodes.
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The movie
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>>64542064
>Also, in the earlier seasons Burns was only like 88 or something

In Simpson & Delilah, Burns claims to be 81 but that was in just this one early episode and the line was also cut in syndication.
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Lady Gaga. I had still been watching it every week at that point, but during that episode, i just turned it off and never looked back
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>>64542346
But how else would they work Mapple Mypads and Instagrandma into the show?

Remember that time Ned said "Skype" and "double-click"? Hahaha, so good.
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>>64542545
>the line was also cut in syndication.
What? I remember hearing it in the UK?
Was it removed?
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>>64542582
>Was it removed?
Yes - you can look at the episode capsules on SNPP which mark syndication cuts.
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>>64542598
I guess it ruined their "Burns is 200 years old" jokes.
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>>64542432
Yeah, I'd say it was about rising above poverty and mundanity and dysfunctionality to laugh at and appreciate the glimmers of goodness in life. Now it's about... gay horses...? And stuff...?

>>64542572
Hey, when you're right, you're right, pal.
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>>64519979
Why exactly does /co/ hate this incredibly minor character?
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>>64542649
There was that one episode where the subplot was that Homer had some Baby Safety company that worked extremely well, but when babies didn't get hurt anymore many other people lost their jobs, so Homer ran down Evergreen Terrace, screaming that babies should hurt themselves again, ending the subplot.
Even when I watched that as a kid, I found it weird and I thought the channel just didn't broadcast the full episode and some scenes were cut out, so I got angry at the channel for showing to many commercials or something.
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>>64542705
Didn't mean to quote.
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I want Dead Homer Society to leave.
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>>64542689
>muh diversity
or something.
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>>64542731
We have nothing against the Asian baby, but we do strongly object to the Evil One.
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Catch Em If You Can. Hard to get much worse than that episode.
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>>64542762
>Hard to get much worse than that episode.
Oh boy have you missed out.
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>>64542641
To be fair, it says he's 104 in Who Shot Mr. Burns. And if we're debating the continuity of the "good seasons," I'd say WSMB wins out because it seems more widely regarded as a better episode.

Also a 104-year-old guy having the entire town in a stranglehold just sounds funnier than him being in his early 80s.
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>>64542797
Okokok you're right. The same season as CEIYC also had Margical History Tour and The President Wore Pearls.
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I used to watch it first on BBC2 and then on C4 which seemed to never progress over the 10th series at the time. I haven't watch a single episode past the 12th excluding the movie
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>>64542810
>I haven't watch a single episode past the 12th excluding the movie

Not even Weekend At Burnsies?
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Hey, chill out, guise. At least you know that Lisa Goes Gaga was the lowest that the show will ever sink and it can never possibly be worse than that.
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the change was too gradual to pinpoint an specific moment, but I think it was in season 15, it still had a lot of good episodes but some of them were terrible, then season 16 had a lot of terrible episodes and a few good ones, it all went downhill from there
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>>64542862
Season 15 was surprisingly good for the most part which makes the duds like >>64542809 stand out more.
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>>64542862
>>64542874

scratch that, I think it was Bonfire of the Manatees, fuck that episode, that's the moment in which I actually started to feel bad for Homer and Marge's relationship in a non-comedic way
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>>64542862
hey, guys, remember that time homer got drunk and crashed the car, so he framed marge for it?
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>>64542908
That was such a sad filler episode.
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>>64511641
Elf Jockeys is the moment when the show died after slowly perishing.
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the first eppisode I really remember as not being funny was the one where they go to new orleans and kill an aligator or something.
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>>64542976
>>64542991
>people thinking Season 11 had the worst episodes ever
You can't even begin to know just how much worse it gets after that.
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>>64541999

but /pol/chan, he only does it because it pays well, to the point where he marries people and ojects.

Isn't that what you guys are always saying it leads to?
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If i remember it correctly, the one where Bart shows talent for drumming and gets into a jazz band and Lisa gets jealous so she starts hoarding animals and then one of the animals attacks Bart stopping his promising career in jazz because Bart, instead of using the money for his surgery he gives it to Lisa because ??????

I don't even know man..
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When you dish upon a star is when i gave up on it. even though there were some good jokes. It was just werking off celebrities.
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>>64543029
As I said, >>64543011
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>>64543029
What episode was that again?
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>>64543011
For me, Elf Jockeys was like the first time someone with lung cancer coughs up blood
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>>64542976

that episode was intentionally terrible though, funny how most modern episodes are actually like it
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>>64543102

Alec Baldwin, Kim Bassinger and the ginger from happy days, i forget his name.
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>>64543015
He didn't even use the money to buy the fucking TV.
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>>64543103
>>64543011

Saddlesore Galactica was supposed to be a satire of poor derivative writing in shows

Little did they know of the future of their own show
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>>64543111
Ron Howard?
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>>64515780
Python jaw; UNHINGE!
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>>64533152
>Also, although it wasn't DEAD to me yet, before all that I just remember the Sherry Bobbins episode being disappointing. It was just the first episode I was like "Weird... that wasn't very funny..."

Was it the conclusion? Sherry Bobbins being killed in the airplane engine, just as an unknowing Homer smiles that he's sure she'll come back, was one of the first examples of no-holds-barred, Family Guy-style jerkass humor—pre-Family Guy, but the point still holds.
We were asked to laugh at the painful (in this case, deadly) mistreatment of a sympathetic character simply because it was in some way funny/ironic.

Too much of this, and you've got a totally mean mood—like, well, less successful MacFarlane, or more recent Simpsons. Someone has to be sympathetic enough to actually like.
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>>64543104
>>64543121
Did they actually say that at the time it aired, or is that the excuse they're using now to cover their asses after the fact?

Like, Principal and the Pauper still sucks, but it was made clear from the beginning that it was mocking similar sitcom plots. But I've literally never heard anyone say "you just don't GET it!" about Saddlesore Galactica until just now.
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>>64543146
That was one of the 3G series episodes which weren't supposed to be canon anyway.
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>>64534676
The difference is new Family Guy isn't abysmal, it's just not as good as it was.

On that note:

Old Simpsons >>>>>>> Old Family Guy >>> New Family Guy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> New Simpsons
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>>64543151

The comics store guy lampoons it various times during the episode and he literally calls it the worst episode ever after the credits
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That 90's show. Completely shifting any semblance of a timeline to make shitty jokes/parodies about the 90's just did it for me.

Remember all those sweet moments of Homer/Marge in the 60's/70's?
Remember the Simpsons being products of the 90's lifestyle?

Well fuck all that because piss poor Nirvana parody that's why?
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>>64543206
The timeskip wasn't the problem, this was the problem:

>The Way We Was

"Marge, I got a problem. The moment you stop this car, I'm going to hug you. And kiss you. And then I'll never be able to let you go."

>That 90s Show
LE EPIC 90s POP CULTURE REFERENCES SO RANDUMB XD XD
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>>64542836
That is my personal least favourite episode
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>>64543254
Oh please, it's not even 1/10th as bad as the gay marriage episode or Bart getting his art teacher pregnant with voodoo.
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Started dying around season 9, but was still mostly watchable. The seasons started declining in quality following that. By the time season 12 rolled around, that shit was awful.
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I've always found it weird that people are still lining up to be guests on the simpsons, and no high-profile people call it out on it's shittiness.
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>>64511641
Lord, I hated BMB. Al Jean should really quit trying political satires because there hasn't been a single one produced under his watch that was any good.
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>>64543371
It's like SNL. It's coasting on its past prestiege. Plus normals still watch it.
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>>64543410
Mr. Spritz Goes To Washington was ok, but probably because it was a Swartzwelder episode instead of the newer hack writers.
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So, what would the Simpsons be like if /co/ wrote for it?
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>>64543428
>implying the only people who still watch this garbage aren't neckbeards who want to have sex with the characters
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>>64543490
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>>64511641
When the 90s were over.
For me The Simpsons are the 90s and the 90s the Simpsons. I, somehow, was aware once that decade was over they will not survive or just become a mockery of their former glory, like a Byzantine emperor in the 13th century trying to be Marcus Aurelius.
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>>64543206
That was re-retconned in a later episode.
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Not so much for the main plot, but a certain incredibly creepy thing Maggie did.
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When Josh Weinstein and Bill Oakley leave the building.
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>>64543654
Ah yeah, I'll always remember this episode because I was 14 when it aired and afterwards, I masturbated to the idea of Luke raping the shit out of Lisa. Goddamn, that was one of the best faps I ever had.
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>>64543667
Good suggestion.

Also Robin Williams sucked and was only funny for two seconds in 1982.
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>>64543667
more like when they entered
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>>64543710
Eh? But Season 7 was one of the strongest the show ever did (8 kinda sucked)
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>>64537399

>KOTH
>funny
>ever
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The episode where Homer takes over the power plant after finding out the company was owned by a bird so Mr.Burns could avoid any legal shit.
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>>64543736
KOTH was good. Then it started it go down hill and just went off the edge of a cliff when Lucky got introduced.
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>>64543750
But that one was good.
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>>64543720
Thought it went too far with changing the "backstories" of everybody and everything so that every other episode was some big dramatic plot twist that ultimately meant nothing because things still went back to status quo by the end.

It was also less funny than the Mirkin seasons and less adept at handling emotion than the first 3 or so. Overall I just felt like I was watching something subpar in pretty much every way.

Not at all comparing it to how the show currently is, but the end of season 6's production run is about my cutoff point for when it stopped being consistently good.

2's my favorite season, if that means anything.
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>>64511641

My relationship with the Simpsons is kind of like a dad's relationship with his disappointing son. You watch your promising, straight-A, varsity athlete son grow up, get hooked on drugs, fall in with bad company, work the same dead-end job etc. Every time you talk you think "this is it, he's finally going to turn his life around" and even though he never does and even though in your heart you know he never will you still love him and cling to a shred of quiet, desperate hope.
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>>64543765
No it wasn't. It was boring and just another "Homer gets a new job, fucks it up and goes back to his normal job" episodes which by that point had become stale and overdone.
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>>64543784
Nonono I liked it. Homer for once was back in his classic season form of actually caring about his family (he gave up owning the plant because they mattered more to him).

Also the line about Standard Oil being owned by a half-eaten breakfast always cracks me up.
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>>64543763

Typical KOTH progression:

>insert joke about beer/rednecks
>opening theme
>propane
>Bobby gets into some stupid shit
>Hank helps/punishes him
>insert life lesson/joke about beer here
>propane
>end credits
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The episode where Bart gets emancipated and Blink 182 show up.

A bit late, I know, but that episode was like a culmination of all the problems The Simpsons has.
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>>64511641
The one with that manatee guy who comforts Marge after Homer pissed her off yet again.

That was the first time I was legitimately bored while watching the show.
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>>64543769
>It was also less funny than the Mirkin seasons
Oh now really, come on. This has gotta be a troll.

>he didn't laugh at Team Homer, Much Apu About Nothing, and Sideshow Bob's Last Gleaming
You're dead inside.
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>>64511641

Whenever they started trying to make Lisa more likable.
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>>64543835
The guy you're talking to sounds like he's been reading too many Dead Homer Society posts.
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Around season 7 or so.

Granted I only really liked season 1 and parts of 2, but it was still tolerable even tho most of the brilliance of the earlier episodes was gone.

Everything after season 8 is just unwatchable if you enjoyed the show beforehand.
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>>64543773

Wow, that actually makes a lot of sense.
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>>64543867
Man you are a boring motherfucker
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>>64543835
>>64543855
No, the Mirkin seasons are hilarious. Not saying 7 didn't have its moments (steamed hams), but 5 and 6 had shit like that practically all the time.

Also I love Sideshow Bob's Last Gleaming and the Apu episode was good (Team Homer was done by Mirkin). I just don't think every episode in 7 was up to that standard, which is why I don't like it as much.

I don't even touch Dead Homer Society. Haven't seen a new episode in years; don't care to read some guy's walls of text bitching about them.
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>>64543867

>I only really liked Season 1

And I bet you only rewatch it on VHS you insufferable hipster
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>>64537839
I still tolerate Season 10 because of the fact it still has enough good episodes. Afterwards, the ratio between good and bad episodes shifts.
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Here's my Season 7 ranking:

Who Shot Mr. Burns? (Part 2): B
Radioactive Man: B
Home Sweet Homediddly-Dum-Doodily: C
Bart Sells His Soul: A
Lisa the Vegetarian: A
King-Size Homer: B
Mother Simpson: A
Sideshow Bob's Last Gleaming: A
The Simpsons 138th Episode Spectacular: B
Marge Be Not Proud: A
Team Homer: B
Two Bad Neighbors: C
Scenes from the Class Struggle in Springfield: B
Bart the Fink: C
Lisa the Iconoclast: B
Homer the Smithers: B
The Day the Violence Died: A
A Fish Called Selma: C
22 Short Films About Springfield: A
Raging Abe Simpson and His Grumbling Grandson in The Curse of the Flying Hellfish: B
Much Apu About Nothing: A
Homerpalooza: A
Summer of 4 Ft. 2: C
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>>64543969
That was an awesome season.
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>>64543967
I really didn't think 10 was all that good especially because some of its episodes like Make Room For Lisa were almost identical retreads of ones from the previous season.
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>>64543989
I agree; don't understand why >>64543769 was so hostile to it.
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>>64543146
Actually that was the only moment that made me laugh hard at the time because it was so unexpected and over the top and cruel. But in retrospect, yes, it's pretty un-Simpsons and much more Family Guy.

>>64543166
What does this mean?! I am not in the know!

>>64543228
This is exactly right. The only "canon" worth getting angry over is one of tone and characterization. They can more or less do whatever they want with logic and time so long as the heart and charm of the setting and characters remain.

That's why the episode with the whole town wanting Bart to commit suicide is understandably one of the most despised.
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>>64544136
>What does this mean?! I am not in the know!
3G was a run of "extra" episodes produced during the Season 7 period by Al Jean & Mike Reiss with Critic writers instead of the regular Simpsons staff.
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>>64544136
>What does this mean?! I am not in the know!

They were made by the staff working on The Critic instead of the usual writing staff. They were also responsible for that crossover which Groening hated so much.
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>>64525895
Regarding this, I remember absolutely loathing Homer in the movie but I'm surprised at how early the seeds of that attitude began to show up. I watched the Tomacco episode recently. Homer is already basically an insane jerk who does whatever he wants and the family just goes along with it for no reason.
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>>64544158
>>64544173
Ah, ok thanks. (I like the Critic episode. And The Critic.)
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>>64540003
Product placement was lazy, but the joke was kind of funny
>wait, I don't remember shooting AT nazis
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>>64544193
I still kind of liked the Tomacco episode.
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I remember coming home from school having not seen Simpsons in a while and thought it would be fun to catch a new episode.

Then they met N'Sync, which went how any other time the simpsons met a celebrity somethingotother.

>"N'SYNC"
>"I we're N'Sync"
>Bart sings
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>>64544413
forgot pic
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I'd given up a long time ago but when I watched the Lady Gaga episode for the sake of watching it I was appalled at how fucking godawful it was and realised there's no saving this show. That was undoubtedly the end for me
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>>64543617
So is kind of like how once Pearl Jam and Nirvana rose up, it was lights out for Motley Crue since they were so inseparable from the 80s that there's no way they could survive the transition into the new decade.
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>>64538841
B-but I liked that one anon
>homer shooting the cigarette
>"I can't believe how easy it is in this country to get cigarettes'
>*holsters one of six pistols*
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When the artstyle shifted to better accommodate guest stars and the Simpsons looked out of place in their own series.
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>>64538220

FYI, I'm a britfag, and in britbong fanny is a childish word for female genitalia.

I did a double take there and wondered when the Simpsons suddenly featured dog/baby paedophillia.
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>>64543801
This. I have no idea why people like the show so fucking much, it's interesting sometimes but it just doesn't make me laugh.
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>>64545383
I think its the bizarre awkwardness that makes it interesting for me, but I rarely watch it either.
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>>64543801
perhaps you just didn't catch most of the subtle humor they throw in

it's way better than the shit on tv today and never resorted to bad gore and poop jokes, if they did they were done tastefully. The show itself was made to make fun of the typical white conservative american family and did it better than most of the stupid shit it was competing with and the only character to really change that much was luanne unlike, say, the simpsons which has just become political propaganda bullshit to push the liberal agenda like the rest of the fox lineup
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>>64512654
I miss the bad episodes of the Scully era. They were bad, but at least they acknowledged and had fun with it. rather than being bad, and being in denial.
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>>64536062
They don't have a choice, the GOP as it stands is unelectable, there won't be another red president until the party gets more liberal, particularly socially.
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Is the Lady Gaga episode really that bad?
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>>64545640

Oh don't pull the whole "it's really a smart-people sort of show" excuse for king of the fuckin hill
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>>64546782
It's not trying to be "intellectual" or some shit, but it's sure as hell not just LOL BEER AND REDNECKS like most people here are saying.
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>>64546843
I would say King of the Hill is to American Dad what early Simpsons is to Family Guy.
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>>64513123
ughh
This is the shit I expect to be made up during those joke threads
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>>64512466
>Mr.Bergstrom
wait what? did he appeared again?
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>>64547426
An episode from the last season.
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>>64546290
Thats the thing I hate about Jean era bad episodes. They have this atmosphere that gives the feeling that the staff don't believe its shit.
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That one funny episode where Bart thought his psychologist fancied him.....but in the end it turns out the psychologist was only attached to Bart because he reminded her of her dead son. How funny XD XD XD

Also Andy dick stared in this ep
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>>64543801
Sounds like you're Laotian
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>>64526153
OOH, IT ANGERS
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>>64548409

Eat shit
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>>64545640
>perhaps you just didn't catch most of the subtle humor they throw in

Not that guy, but in my case that is probably true, not being AMERICAN means a good shitload of jokes likely flew over my head.

It was still a nice show though, just didn't have the kind of buzz i was expecting from the pedestal /co/ put it on.
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>>64516031
underage b&
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>>64549384
>the simpsons movie was 7 years ago
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>>64515780
Was this at the very least a halloween special?
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>>64543681
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>>64549117
But you sound exactly like Kahn
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I made 4-5 threads on /co/ today and every last one got deleted by janitors.

What the fuck man.
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>>64542689
>>64542731
She also grew up into a toddler soon after introduction.

Meanwhile, Maggie is still 1 year old.
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"That wine you gave me was awesome, Anon. What are we gonna do next?"
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When they changed openings.
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>>64550675
Get out of my house.
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>>64549641
>whu? /co/ has inept janitors????

Where have you been?
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>>64550789
http://archive.foolz.us/co/thread/64547029
http://archive.foolz.us/co/thread/64544112

These were both mine and both inexplicably deleted.
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>>64550675
Yes yes, you'#re the one who made that shit post thread earlier, and probably other similar shit post threads. Please die.
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>>64525400
>>64525424
>tumblr takes control little by little
>"problematic" posts being deleted now
>no fun allowed

where were you when 4chan was kill?
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>>64511641
I stopped paying attention to it when I had a TV and I've not had one for about 9 years now. Show's not dead to me, just plain forgotten.
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>>64550675
>implying I'd risk giving an underage individual a drink in the Land of the Free
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>>64550762
>That lazy-ass fist shake

Shopping stuff out to the same cut-rate Asian sweatshops as Family Guy now, are we?
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>>64551045
>when I had a TV and I've not had one for about 9 years now.
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>>64549641
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>>64538220
>>64542095
>Maggie getting her shit licked off by the dog
>Stewie getting his shit licked off by Brian

also this
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>>64511641
The moment they had a Sideshow Bob episode and it wasn't funny. It was the one where he brainwashes Bart to kill Krusty.
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>>64511641
The moment they switched their rabbit-ears TV with an HDTV with the same look as the old one. I'm not one to drop shows on the drop of a hat like this but this pretty much told me that the old Simpsons is gone and that the show is gonna continue to try its hardest to stay relevant and with the times. Doesn't help that hardly any of the old writing staff isn't working on it anymore but that still doesn't guarantee it would have stayed as good. I do love that it was so good for such a long time, but all things must come to and end.
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>>64541559
It's a dumb message for a vegan. It's the kind of moral principle that you do want to apply to everyone. You believe that what other people are doing is wrong, universally, so you can't just tolerate it.

Anyway, that episode is still good even with the lame celebrity cameos. In the end it's about Homer and Lisa's relationship. And the jokes are funny.
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>>64554082

fuck. I was like that when I was a teen. I just randomly walked around different parks in my city with a bag full of booze and smokes, and just tagged around with random people my age
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>>64554146
>Doesn't help that hardly any of the old writing staff isn't working on it anymore
Al Jean. Not that that means anything.
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>>64542012
Unfortunately nobody can remember anymore. That 90's Show is what the writers remember about the 90's. Stereotypes.

The show should have just ended after the 90's, that's where it exists. Unless the characters aged. Which they haven't.
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The Simpsons desperately trying to present itself as relevant is pathetic, but I see no problem in having the show always be set in the current year if it's still written well. Of course it's not, and it'd be impossible for any show to maintain that kind of quality, but it's a satire on current American culture; it should try to comment on it.

No one seems to have a problem with Bart and Lisa being children of the 80's in the first season, and then growing up in the 90's by the time of Lisa's Sax (even with a godawful parody song about it).

Not adhering to "continuity" really isn't the problem here.
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>>64554423
Sam Simon was asked what he would do to fix the Simpsons and he said "I would make it focused on the family again. Just a regular, middle America family having regular middle America problems, but updated for the present day because much has changed since 1990."
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>>64543769
7 is overall inferior to 2 emotion-wise but I'm very glad we got Bart Sells His Soul.
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>>64554414
It doesn't since the show has obviously gone downhill. So I do what anyone else would do, drop it off and move on.
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>>64525395
>AMY POHLER GIVING A FAIRLY NEGLIGIBLE PERFORMANCE
My sides, I had the misfortune of catching some of this episode the other day. Just... fuck.
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>>64554574
For these characters, I feel like all the timeless poverty-struggle and family-struggle issues have been covered. Updating the time period merely provides shallow ideas relating to trends and celebrities.
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>>64543969
I really like A Fish Called Selma. The plot seems kinda crazy but it's handled in such a grounded way. Also Dr. Zaius.
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>>64554942
Goddammit do I hate Amy Poehler.
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The show could only be saved by doing a timeskip that /co/ writes
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>>64543167
I'd give new Family Guy a 3/10. Not abysmal, just... bad.
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>>64554510
I agree with this, though seeing them with a flat screen TV and stuff still stands out as weird and shitty. But it's probably the overall effect of the computery art and all the new stuff making it all look sterile and boring.

Also you hit on the massive problem that it's no longer a satire at all. It's completely lost sight of that. That's why there's a goddamned life-size Springfield you can walk around in. The Simpsons of the past would never have understood the idea of a theme park version of itself. Why would anyone actually want to go to Moe's? It's tragic in there.
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>>64556704
Old Simpsons would've made fun of this kind of thing, to be honest. They really don't seem to make fun of merchandising anymore.
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>>64556704
The original designs are still 90's inspired. You can't give them new technology without updating everything. And you can't give them NICE technology without upgrading what class they're supposed to be.
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>>64557665
Not necessarily.
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>>64511641
There's no specific point for me. Just years ago, when I realized that the writing staff would rather focus on shoehorning in a plot for the guest star(s) of the week into every episode rather than write a plot that focuses on any of its rich, extensive cast.

Oh wait, when they tried that, Ned and Edna got married. Fuck me...
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>>64543111
I liked that episode though, it did lampoon celebrity culture a bit and also had some really memorable jokes.
>"It's about a killer robot driving instructor that travels back in time for some reason!"
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>>64548157
>Also Andy dick stared in this ep
Unforgivable. Killing humor was bad enough, but this is just... despicable.
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>>64544413
>>64544425
>N'Sync

I'd known the show had been getting shitty, but that was the breaking point for me too.
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>>64543763
>started it go down hill
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>>64511641
when Maud Flanders died
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>>64559096
When did that happen?
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>>64559096
That was just the tip of the iceberg. The decline happened years before that.
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>>64559096
That might be the first time I couldn't laugh at an episode. I'm for "dark humor," but turning upbeat Ned Flanders upside down did not benefit anyone.
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>>64512741
If you start from the beginning, that happens around season 6
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>>64537027
>not chuckling at Page McConnell calling Homer a real po-thead
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>>64550762
Christ, that's painful to watch
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>>64525395
I just watched that episode. My face only transitioned from bored to wince. Except for Ralph fighting crime. That was honestly funny, in a "Wow, this joke sorta tried" way.
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>>64515680
they didn't say stop watching they said when teh show became dead.

And that skit sucked. it was dead on arrival.
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>>64563678
I still like seasons 11~13
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>>64515995
Republicans are the party of not-liberals.
That's it.

Democrats are the party of liberals and moderates.
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>>64536062
When the other party has confederate flags at their rally and protesters telling third generation Latino Americans to go back home, you don't NEED to outreach to minorities.
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I still don't understand why don't the let their characters age, it doesn't even have to be that much, South Park made their characters age 2 years over the course of 17 seasons.

and let Maggie talk, it's retarded how they go out of their way to have her "lol Maggie doesn't talk"
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All pop culture is a product of its time. To me, Simpsons exists in two eras. The "radical" era of the late 80's/early 90's where Bart is the main character and Bart plushies are selling like gangbusters, and the "zany" era of the later 90's where Homer is the main character and the show has pretty much become a vehicle for (admittedly hilarious) jokes without much in the way of characterization or consequence.

The Simpsons that exists now tries desperately to be that same "zany" show, but it's not. The writers seem to think that the Simpsons formula is eternal, but it's not. Consider the crank calling Moe gag. Cell phones and caller ID fucking ruin it. Or the recurring joke of nuclear power being dangerously unstable. It was funny at the time, but it's a relic of the late 80's.

Hell, just look at the premise of the show. A dysfunctional family being played for laughs was still considered subversive when The Simpsons was new. Such concepts would be considered quaint nowadays, as evidenced by utterly vanilla sitcoms like The Middle.
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>>64568083
>quaint

They're literally beyond cliche at this point, they've essentially become the standard
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Remember when Matt Groening took his name off the Simpsons episode with Jay Sherman as a guest star.

And now we got Futurama and Family Guy crossovers....

They actually colored Jay Sherman YELLOW for HIS appearance.
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>>64515680
>Like..
>a silly gag

Why do you type like wimpy preteen? Can't you even hide that you are one? Just fuck off already
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>>64524228
Her voice also sucks.
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>>64511641
George W. Bush more like

George W. Butthurt

go back to stealing pictures from wikipedia, you fucking failure

you never made daddy proud
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>>64539876
Do you fall for every little shitpost faggots put online or is this your first week here?
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>>64530421
>I'm to hate casuals
What are you trying to say?
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>>64539474
I wouldn't say thin.
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>>64540649
What does the dead character appearing in more bad episodes has to do with that episode being bad, you retard?
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>>64569998
When has such a thing ever been implied?
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>>64567903
It would be perfect if Simpsons had aged a year every 5 years or so. It would have probably saved the show. Instead timeline is just moved up and we get these stupid wacky future episodes.
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>>64543206
the only redeeming quality about this episode?
Weird Al.
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>>64563678
>no Homer at the Bat image
/co/....I am disappoint.
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Season 10 was the first season where I felt the show was getting stagnant.

Season 17 was the first season where none of the episodes (outside of holdovers) were enjoyable.
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It was a long time ago, but it was an episode where they were playing a montage to a song and it wasn't funny at all, and all I could think was "I guess montages are easy to write"
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Its funny that people say Scully era is where the flanderization of characters kicked in

Show flanderized most of the characters as bloody early as season 4, when the show went from a heartfelt satire, to a goofy comedy.
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>>64570654
Probably "They'll never stop the Simpsons" at the end of Gump Roast. That song pretty much shows that they're aware at how shit the show has become but they don't care.
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>>64570679
This is absolutely true. It's ridiculous when people insist that the characters were portrayed consistently throughout the "golden age" (whenever the hell that may be).

I think the key difference, though, is that season 4 was still very entertaining, and while the quality of writing/characterization may have slipped slightly, it was arguably funnier than anything before. It still had something to offer so it doesn't get much flak now, and the characterization changes are pretty negligible compared to how badly they're portrayed now.
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>>64558773
I forget, why is Andy Dick so bad?
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>>64571355
he got phil Hartman's wife back on cocaine, which resulted in her killing him and then herself.

some years later andy dick was joking about it in public and told jon lovitz that he put the "phil Hartman hex" on him and that he'd be the next to die. lovitz beat the shit out of him.
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>>64571355
He literally killed Phil Hartman
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While I did notice the decline in quality after season 10 or so, it wasn't until after the movie (which was itself decent) that the show became unwatchable.

I would say I was just young enough to enjoy crap, but my dad is 56 and he still watches the new episodes and seems to like them.
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>>64571996

They've been airing season 25 at the moment, my dad and older brother both laughed multiple times in the gay horse episode. Especially at the modern family joke.
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>>64568083
You'd need to have writers who have the same degree of genius as the original crew to come up with something new and revolutionary. And unfortunately you don't.
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>>64572373

>>64554574
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>>64554574
Age the characters and do a reboot. A lot of people seem to like the future episodes and they have become more frequent recently, telling me that the writers would also like to explore the characters when they're older.

You'd really only lose Bart as the 10 year-old hellraiser. He hasn't been useful in that role for a long time since it only worked in the early 90s. There would still be Maggie as a little school girl and you could make proper use of the Chinese girl and Apu's kids for a change.

Even if it would bomb, it would at least be worth a try. Anything is better than this stagnant piece of shit. I guess FOX still doesn't like that idea though.
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>>64556704
>Why would anyone actually want to go to Moe's? It's tragic in there

This isn't "faux-dive," this is a dive!
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>>64554574
i think simon is right here, they also need to bring the 90s formula back
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Grew up with Simpsons but never really activily watched
> am 19 now
> work alot
> borrow shows ,comics from my uncle
> watch all he has
>"here Anon I have simpsons"
> 11 seasons
> flip through episode guides
> included is the neds wife dying one
> last episode of 11 is vh1 behind the scenes parody
so basically my plan is to watch just up to eleven so I have some drastic happen before I finish (neds wife dying) and then I end on a weird meta high note (vh1 parody) and treat that as the series final. Good plan?
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>>64520806
>Bartman
Instantly redeemed this piece of shit (I HATE Harlem Shake videos)
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When Homer killed Maude, the magic was just gone
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>>64572936
>and you could make proper use of the Chinese girl
0/10
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> tfw kids today don't know how he could be banging on a tv.
> tv's are thin.
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> A "sparkle" pony called "Twilight".
> LEGO episode is BANNED on /co/.

Any other episodes banned on /co/?
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>>64572936
>You'd really only lose Bart as the 10 year-old hellraiser. He hasn't been useful in that role for a long time since it only worked in the early 90s

Excerpt from a 2004 interview with Nancy Cartwright:

Q: So it does seem as the show evolved, its focus shifted from Bart to Homer. What are your thoughts on that?
A: Well you know, it goes without saying that Homer, being an adult, offers more storylines than is possible with a 10 year old.
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>>64572936
>You'd really only lose Bart as the 10 year-old hellraiser
>There would still be Maggie as a little school girl
Maggie then becomes girl Bart.
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>>64572936
>I guess FOX still doesn't like that idea though
Fox doesn't want to fuck up their merchandising empire.
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>>64525589
Dohohoho.
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>>64573764
Right and Asian baby would be the straight man to her. It pretty much writes itself.
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After the movie in 2007 thats when every thing went down hill for me
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>>64575444
I agree. There are still good episodes in Seasons 13-14-15, hell, even a few in 17-18. After the movie though...
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>>64575444
>>64575468
I do not even support the movie. I will rally against the movie. I believe the movie should be ignored and Who Shot Mr. Burns? should be instated as the real Simpsons movie.
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>>64511641

I never watched the Simpsons growing up. I've seen a grand total of maybe 4 whole episodes and a Treehouse of Horror special in my entire life, and a few friends dragged me to the movie.

The art style and characters never really appealed to me. There were funny bits in what I watched, sure, but I just never got invested enough to watch whole seasons. For me it was the show I watched when absolutely nothing else was on.
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>>64576906
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>>64576941

>I'm not a rabid Simpsons fanatic who mourns the slow death of the show with a candlelight vigil every week
>so I must be autistic
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>>64572936

Why not cancel it and get the same people doing a Funky Winkerbean show using the same animation techniques?

No need to worry about ratings, only how many children you can make weep tears of sadness...
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>>64511641

When I finished 7th grade and realized it wasn't funny>>64511686
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>>64576941
You need to learn that words have meanings and aren't just something to be squawked angrily whenever someone says something that you don't like.
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I dunno, I haven't been able to pick up a channel that runs the Simpsons since the digital switch.
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>>64541671

This episode was knee-deep in the "Lisa is the mouthpiece for the writer's views and is never ever wrong" era of the Simpsons, and I think what made this episode particularly infuriating was that they were trying to make it a "No, see, Lisa can have flaws too!" episode, and they ended up making her flaw basically "She's just TOO GOOD FOR HER OWN GOOD A HURR DURR"
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>>64541947

What they SHOULD have done is have the family age with time. It would be interesting to see what Grandpa Homer is like, or see who Bart marries or what their kids are like. Yeah it would be a risk, and would never have really been done before, but it would keep a long-running show fresh.
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I call this the nostalgia goggles game
>Think of the most recent Simpsons episode you enjoyed watching
>Try to guess what year it was
>Look it up
>Be amazed
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>>64571415

Whoa really? I gotta look this shit up. And then they had him as a guest star? That is fucking low.
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>>64577856

Actually some of the ones I've enjoyed watching are some of the more recent ones.
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>>64566944
Compared to now, a Simpsons episode from 5 years ago is better than what we got now.
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>>64542809
Also that ones where Marge fights the child-free movement
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>>64578391
I actually liked that one.
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>>64577338
I agree, but they did give Lisa her comeuppance a couple of times like how she got shut-down when she bitched about joining the football team or how that cowhand called her out for being a superficial bitch.

You know what amazes me about Lisa? She's against animal cruelty and consuming animal products yet she's perfectly content in watching a cartoon that glorifies violence against animals.
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>>64574010
please leave
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>>64578423
it wasn't the WORST, but it kinda felt like complaining about something the writer(s) personally didn't like.
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>>64569483
You should have always hated casuals, is what he means
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>>64570679
It's really a matter of degree. You can pinpoint problems extremely early if you want to. The show was never perfect.
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>>64573166
The vh1 parody is extremely overrated and more about, well, parodying vh1 than it is about the Simpsons. imo you can stop with Homer vs. The City of New York and not miss anything.
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>>64577856
I guessed 99, it was 97. Do I win?
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>>64511641
The digital piracy episode. It was whiny even by modern simps standards.
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My friends say that the new episodes are no diffirent than the old ones, actually they're better because refreshed animation. I never watched Simpsons, how true is it? I'm taking from this thread that they're in the wrong?
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>>64579578
>refreshed animation
It's sad that people think "clean" animation is actually better. Do they not know the point of animation in the first place.

>I never watched Simpsons
You should take this excellent opportunity to see for yourself if the old ones are better.
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>>64550962
Don't bother. /co/ is long lost.
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>>64571355
>>64577887

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Dick

>controversies
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>>64541897
God that fucking Buddhist episode. The writers clearly did not understand Buddhism beyond the stereotypical 'meditate and vegetarianism', one of which has nothing to do with Buddhism

You don't have to be vegetarian to be a Buddhist but a few of its teachings lean that way.
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>>64571415
Obligatory
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>>64573740
>LEGO episode is BANNED on /co/.
What?
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>>64573743
That's pretty much the point. They already told every story possible with those characters and even went beyond that, turning into weird and creepy shit like Bart getting teenage girlfriends one after another and highly unbelievable schlock like Lisa being an activist. Age the characters like 7-8 years and you could tell all those stories properly, while still having a little girl (Maggie) in your cast.
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>>64513123
Why does?
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>>64520740
It's pretty bad, but I laughed at Snake and the cops.
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>>64520740
>that friend who showed you this on youtube and was waiting for you to laugh you ass off
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>>64581089
>looking through his career
>only thing I ever saw him on was that one episode of voyager
>that terrible terrible episode of voyager

Either this guy is a terrible comedian or he's got a terrible agent.

>On July 16, 2008, Dick was arrested in Murrieta, California, on suspicion of drug possession and sexual battery. He exposed the breasts of a 17-year-old female after he allegedly grabbed and pulled down her tank top and brassiere. During a search of his person, police reported finding a small quantity of cannabis and one alprazolam tablet (for which Dick did not have a prescription) in his front pants pocket.[24][25] He was released from jail after posting $5,000 bail. Dick eventually pleaded guilty to misdemeanor battery and marijuana possession, he was sentenced to three years probation, pay about $700 in fines, and was ordered to wear an alcohol-monitoring bracelet for one year.[26]

so gropes and exposes himself to a high schooler, court focuses on the drinking.

Okay.jpeg

Now onto the controversies...

>On January 11, 2011, Dick was thrown out of the AVN Awards

...
Thrown out of an award ceremony for pornography.
...
For a alchy pissant he's still somehow able to get a disturbing amount of work.
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>>64551481
More like Marge's inhuman and robotic head turn.
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>>64582796
You missed out on Newsradio. It was a great show, despite Andy Dick.
And then Hartman died.
And was replaced by Lovitz. Who couldn't fill Hartman's shoes.
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>>64520740
Honestly despite being a horrible idea, this was well done, and has some pretty good jokes in there. The Homer shake on the other hand...
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>>64511641
pretty much pic related, I really just couldn't handle everyone's stupidity. Totally fucked the whole franchise IMHO
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>>64515995
Republicans are, in theory, high economic freedom (low taxes, fewer benefits etc), low social freedom (anti-drug, anti-immigrant, pro-life), with some big exceptions, like military spending, or guns.
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>>64584033
>anti-immigrant
*anti-illegal.
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http://archive.foolz.us/co/thread/64550750/#q64550750
http://archive.foolz.us/co/thread/64555275/#64573811
http://archive.foolz.us/co/thread/64576986/#q64576986

These posts/threads got deleted shortly after the posted comment. Coincidence?

Nah, you're going down, Captain Hot Pocket.
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>>64582530
I'm sorry for your loss
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>>64584219
Jeez, why is it necessary to delete every single reference to Frozen in the Disney threads.
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>>64550762
I don't get it. Why didn't they only trace over the old opening? They would have gotten the same look without having to spend any effort/money on actual animation. Is it because the whole show is shittily animated now and they didn't want the opening to look too good in comparison?

Man, I'm so out of touch with the Simpsons.
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>>64584534
Groening from the very beginning hated the former's animation and wanted everything strictly on model.
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>>64584567
BRAVO GROENING!
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>>64570257
>Razorblades and applesauce
>Tony Danza he's the boss
>BRAIN FREEZE! BRAIN FREEZE!

>Being tired of Weird Al is being tired of life.
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>>64581899
>Age the characters like 7-8 years and you could tell all those stories properly, while still having a little girl (Maggie) in your cast.
Bart and Lisa can then be teenagers and Maggie can be in grade school and be female Bart.
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>>64563678
>that jack black
are you serious
that's not him right?
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At the exact time they made a movie of it
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>>64575652
Would you ever consider doing a Simpsums about the movie?
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>>64543773

This is depressingly accurate
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>>64586611
shh you will ruin the surprise
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>>64586719
I'm... I'm very interested in seeing how you can make that work.
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>>64586892
you and me both, buddy.

I won't be doing it until a long time from now though. Not really on my radar at present.
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