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Why do most cartoons have at least one fat episode in them?

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Why do most cartoons have at least one fat episode in them?
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I do not complain

Food is on my list of top tier fetishes
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>>63797519
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>that totally spies episode
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>>63797519
To appeal to american audiences
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Mostly it makes for good comedy.

I'm sure there's at least one out there that spawned from the writers' fetishes, though.
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because fat people = funny because they're fat people.
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Aren't they usually done for the obligatory 'eat healthy' aesop?
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Here's another question.

Why are FOPfags the fucking worst?
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They don't OP. In fact, I rarely ever see fat episodes.

What I do see, however, is a thinly veiled fat fetish thread. What, are you that same faggot who makes terrible foot and other fetish threads that get deleted within 15 minutes?
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>>63797519
Because for whatever reason, fat fetishists were super common in the animation industry during the 90's.

Not that I'm complaining, mind you
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>>63797675
what ep was this?
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>>63797772

Transformation is even more common. Fat is more common than hypnosis, I think
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>>63797800
"The Devouring."
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>>63797519
Cause fat "people" are hilarious. We should put them in zoos.
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>>63797584
Would look better if a bellybutton was added.
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>>63797584
>>63798212
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>>63797614
I'm pretty sure that caused a lot people to have a fat fetish.
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Because they're the best ones.
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>>63798687
Wait a minute...
What show/episode is this from?
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>>63798743
Producing Parker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLTOnlT0I1I
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To teach kids that fat is bad or whatever I don't know, I wonder if they even know there are people who yank to it.
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>>63797519
A better question is why DON'T cartoons have fat episodes anymore?

I can't even remember the last one.
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>>63799223
Newest one I can think of is that SheZow one.
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>>63799223
I think it's because obesity has become a weighty topic with the increase of obesity around the world.
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>>63799443
Nah, was Adventure Time circle of life episode.
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>>63799537
Obesity rates have barely gone up in most parts of the world
Health organizations just changed the way BMI index are calculated to make it seem like obesity is on the rise. It's the biggest load of fabricated bullshit and we're supposed to think weight is a bigger issue than fucking cancer? Hell we're over due for a population wiping pandemic and the CDC is trying to make it sound like fat is the biggest health risk ever.
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>>63800436
You should probably go check on Nancy, Dale.
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>>63797519
I'll tell you what most cartoons also have

at least one episode where one of the adult characters wear a diaper
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>>63800507
This is patently false.

Name five cartoons besides the one you posted.
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>>63799537

I don't know man. You're discussing a pretty Hefty topic.
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>>63800480
>thinking this is paranoia
current BMI index would rank pic related as morbidly obese
Doesn't matter that you can see he isn't, his statistics would say it and when compiling those "obesity rates" he'd just be another obese person on the chart the CDC uses to justify why they are investing more money into obesity research than anything else.
The groups in charge of monitoring health risks are sinking more and more money into their made up epidemic.
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>>63797772
>>63797828
Sauce or just speculation?
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>>63800592
I know I've made some massive claims.
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they're okay except when it only happens to a dudes cuz that's fucking GAY
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>>63797828
>Scarlett Johanssen is playing Kaa in that mo-cap Jungle Book movie Disney's making now

Hypno's gonna get some new recruits real soon...
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>>63797584
>>63798325
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>>63800832
Why are the'yre making Kaa a female snake?
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>>63800724
>when compiling those "obesity rates" he'd just be another obese person on the chart

Yes, when I walk around Walmart it's always full of ripped people skewing America's weight statistics.
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>>63800867
Because you can't spell hiss without /ss/.
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>>63798325
>>63797584
>>63797519
A montage instead of a simple "30 days later" caption would've cemented this as one of the all-time great WG episodes, Hartman style or no.

Also if it had shown more girls.
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>>63800955
Eh. They're still just round balls. I can't do anything with that.
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>>63800724
Jeez, can stomachs really look like that?
Horrifying.
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>>63801705

Professional bodybuilders often starve themselves before going on show; it adds definition to their muscles.
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>>63800556
Centrally...

>Tiny Toon Adventures
>Tom & Jerry
>Fairly Odd Parents
>Spongebob Squarepants
>American Dad
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>>63800955
>Vicky, Tootie, and Ms Turner doesn't show up for even a second

Fuck that show.
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>>63801154
That's not true Wanda and Cosmo had some pretty big tits
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>>63803264
In one of the later episodes, Ms. Turner does swell up...
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>>63798884
Hey Dusty wheres part 2?
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>>63802887
Who was fat in American Dad?

Please say Francine
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>>63803956
he's talking about diapers, not fatties
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>>63803637
Bee Sting, doesn't count.
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>>63803637
That's not weight gain.
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>>63797716
>FopFags
>Not SJWs
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>>63803956
>>63803980
Francine did get fat in an AD episode, though the episode was more about letting herself go to test Stan's love and see if it was more for just her beauty.
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>>63799166
>not skinny Kim with far Ron
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>>63804076
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>>63800907

Stop walking around Walmart.
No, seriously. Just stop.
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>>63804123
That's the stuff
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>>63804123
Noice edit.
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>>63804076
What episode?
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>>63804248
You don't wanna see it without the edit unless you're into slob
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>>63804321
where do you think you are?
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>>63803637
That shortstack
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>>63804321
not really
it might be some people's tastes but it didn't really qualify as slob
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>it's one of THOSE episodes
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>>63804346
A place I've never seen slob outside of /d/.

>>63804542
The word slob doesn't count for only greasy, farting, and burping. I remember her face going far south and hairy arms.
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>>63805338
/co/ for all intents and purposes invented slob, or at least the more restrained old fashioned version
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>>63797703
Yes however it's also because obesity is one of the few things you can out right mock without punishment.
It's by and large thanks to the fact that if you defend fat you defend unhealthy lifestyles.
Yes a small small few cant control it but 90% of the rest of the tubbies wont take the necessary steps to lose weight.
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>>63805085
Now if only this happened to the real Supergirl...
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>>63805085

Oh shit, I think that episode was where it started for me.
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>>63805666
Same for a lot of people including myself, either that or the episode of Rugrats. Dodged a bullet that I didn't become a furry.
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>>63805666
For me it was the Flan of Courage the Cowardly Dog.
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>>63805701
>the episode of Rugrats

Explain, please.
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>>63805982
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>>63805666
>>63805701
I've never been fully sure what started it for me. I think it was a lot of small things working subconsciously, combined with this Doug episode and "Say Cheese and Die...Again!"
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>>63804121
>not fat Ron with steadily-but-obliviously-gaining feeder Kim
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>>63806043
I remember the Doug episode, but even at that age I knew I felt 'different' about the times it was a female getting fat
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>>63805994
Dear God
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>>63806181
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>>63806166
I don't really remember that far back, but I think I was too young to notice any "differences" between male and female WG at the time.

Same with muscle growth, really. When it comes to cartoon fetish fuel, gender didn't really matter to me, as far as I can recall.
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>>63806113
>steadily-but-obliviously-gaining feeder Kim
disgusting.
Fit/skinny girl/fat guy a best
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>>63806297
What can I say, the friend/feeder/lover of the primary gainer getting fat themselves is my ultimate subfetish.
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>>63806297
you're all mixed up.

Fit guy+fat girl=best couple
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>>63806410
Fit girl/fat girl
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>>63798884
sweet cream corn jesus, canada.

is it really that diffuclt for you guys to just animate a character WALKING to a couch without having a ton of rube goldberg esque action city bullshit going on in the process?
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>>63797519
Because watching cartoons means you aren't active.
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>>63797675
I really liked this show, it was great
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this had hypnosis and weight gain
really wish this happened in a show with more characters though.
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>>63797519
Cause it does
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"If I have one more bite, I'm gonna have to strip off my pants!"
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>>63813354
Jesus christ, did she really say that?
There had to of been someone into it if that's the case
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>>63804321
Wouldn't mind a source.
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>>63798325
>>63798687
>>63803637
>>63805085
>>63805994
>>63806204
>>63811900
>>63812892
>>63813354
What fatties they are
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This thread pleases me
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the sumo episode and the sleepwalking episodes of ed edd and eddy gave me my fat fetish
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>>63797662

This. It's a real issue so of course it's best to make light of it.
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>>63817376
Don't forget the rule-breaking episode
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>>63800507
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>>63797519
Because fatasses are funny.
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>>63798325
This is on right now!
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>>63797703
Usually.
Pic related
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>>63797675
fuck I was looking at this while listening to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rm9mIneSVA
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>>63813354
That looks relaxing
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>>63820009
Oh really
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>>63820494
Any closer looks at said related pic?
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>>63798434
I'm included in that group of people. As a child I watched that episode in awe and amazement.
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>>63820494
What exactly am I looking at?
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>>63820494
>CBBC censored this opening, cutting out the part where the blob is revealed to be Arthur
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>>63824027
I belong in this group however I like fat girls way before that EP came out in 2003.
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>>63806113
4chan did give me a liking for fat Ron now I got to commission an artist someday.
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>>63821815
What am i looking at?
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>>63800955
I think that Chad Rocco is into fat girls or he is secretly tubbytoons however I doubt it.
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>>63825452
I'm so dead
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>>63817376
That sumo episode was really on the nose. There HAD to be someone on the team who was turned on by it.
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>>63820494

I've masturbated to this scene before. I hold no shame.
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>>63825477
If he was Tubbytoon, they'd have those stupid frog faces.
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>>63825634
You should, you pedo.
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speaking of tubbytoons, no ones remembers this from quack pack, the tasty paste EP?
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>>63825654

It's more about the whole forced feeding till his gut blurbs out than the age. If it'd happened to Ratburn I'd have jerked it just as hard.

Seriously, I would a fat Raburn so hard
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Post yfw you realised rapid but reversible cartoon-style weight gain would never physically be possible
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>>63825809
>mfw
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This thread is still going?

Awesome.

Jesus, I don't have any caps of canon WG stuff.
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>>63827100
keep up the Franny Dustin
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>>63827100
Holy shit Dustin.

This might be my favorite thing you've ever done.
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>>63827138
>>63827186
I gotta fix it up some, hopefully I can finish it today and post it later. Any suggestions would be awesome.
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Didn't know /co/ had so many black guys.
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>>63827220
The legs look a tiny bit off is my only complaint.

Maybe puff the thighs out a bit more to better distinguish the calves?
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>>63827220
The crumbs look like freckles but if it were colored obviously that wouldn't look it otherwise I don't see anything wrong with it besides the lack of my personal preference for belches and farts
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>>63825809
>reversible
oh there is going to be no reversing it anon
once your buttons start to pop you can't stop
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>>63819537
Or even that one flashback episode where Nazz was chubby.
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>>63827296
An unexpected delight, that was.
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>>63827260
Sorry, I saw this comment while scrolling by on the homepage


The stereotype is that black people like booty. I like both tits n ass (while hips are top-tier), but this thread is disgusting. Most of the people in this thread are rather skinny white people who have a BBW fetish.
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>>63827291
Once they start to over eat, they'll be too heavy to leave their seat
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>>63827420
Weight gain is such a slippery slope, you just can't cope
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>>63827314
yup!
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>>63827276
>>63827265
Thanks! I'll post something better later.

And I'll try to do a burp and fart variant.
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>>63827322
Nigga I think you best need to calm down
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I honestly would rather be in a world where Passion Patties never existed
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>>63827859
Oh god I love this one.
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>>63827859
You're already in a world where Passion Patties don't exist, unless you know something I don't.
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>>63827916
I think anon was talking about the passion patties EP never existed
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>>63827916
If passion patties really existed [/spoiler]I'd be eating them all the time and be three times my size and be in complete bliss
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>>63800867

For my boner.
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>>63828150
I would make others eat the cookies
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>>63821815
some assembly required
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>>63828424
>force feeding leading to massive weight gain
That's my fetish.
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So are you guys excited for the next episode of Sabagebu?
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>>63827895
I made a bunch of caps of it.
Used to make a ton of anything that had it.

>>63827916
I'm talking about the episode.
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>>63828491
same here
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>>63828491
Can it be force-feeding if it's willing? Clover was certainly into it.
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>>63828771
>>63828491
Excellent taste.
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Been thinking of ideas of a BBW/WG opposite to that Muscle MILF Violet idea

>Violet's future forcefield capability and coverage is tied to to her mass
>Properties of the forcefields themselves change based on definition
>Between the fat she's accumulated and parental inheritance leaning towards her mother, including some of her elasticity, her forcefields are more pliable as constructs and capable of harnessing any kinetic energy brought against them. Like the other idea, she could protect a city from a missile attack, but she could probably bounce said missile into orbit.
>This also gives her a bouncier quality and it can be applied to move quickly despite her weight, though travel by a gyroscope-construct forcefield bubble has become one of her more formidable tactics, letting her steamroll legions like the ball from Indiana Jones with the increased momentum of her weight.
>The increased power of her forcefields has dyed her skin tone purple and has rendered her jiggly rolls bulletproof and reflective like the forcefields themselves
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>>63828840
Holy shit nobody cares you sperg
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>>63828876
It's the same faggot in every one of these threads

He's so autistic he doesn't he listen to everyone telling him to shut the fuck up
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>>63828918
thats how most fetish faggots
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>>63828633
No. Because the last anime to tease me with weight gain was No-Rin, and the girls were fat only for a few minutes. It felt more like a joke than a weight gain episode. I don't want my hopes crushed again.
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>>63829253
This.
>there will never be a good anime weight gain ep
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>>63826863
>feelingsoattackedrightnow.jpg
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one of these threads these people need to learn
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>>63829253
Oh, and then there's the equally-disappointing Sonico anime that never acknowledged Pochaco's existence. 179
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>>63828811
if you want it to be. I loved the fact that clover was into it but I think that was the passion patties talking.
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>>63828424
W-would you feed me those cookies, anon?
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>>63829694
>you will never be captured and forcefully made into one of those fat guards
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>>63829925
...Has anyone drawn that? The Spies becoming Bittersweet's newest guards? Usually I just see them in their regular suits or those disguises.

Dustin, if you're looking for more ideas, I think we got one here.
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>>63829925
who said that I wanted to be a guard?
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>>63829925
>You will never be a girl fatteened up into a brainless flabby blob, being forcefed passion patties all day, while smiling a blank mindless smile
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>>63829925
>>63830140
unf
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>>63829880
for you, of course!
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>>63830264
That's one of my favorite caps of the episode.

Fat faces are the best part, followed by fat asses.
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>>63830298
Agreed 100%.
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>>63802040
I thought it was just dehydration
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>>63830298
fat asses > fat faces
fite me
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>>63830298
>>63830419
>>63830638

Bellies > Asses/Thighs > Faces > Arms >>>> Tits
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>>63830264
How fat would you make this skinny anon?
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>>63830638
>>63830678
Well the entire package is great.

Bit big fat faces are my favorite.
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>>63829292
Excluding old episodes?

>>63829694
It was addiction to the cookies that made her don't mind as long as she got more.
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>>63830716
Don't indulge this faggot
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>>63830678
I'd move titties up a few slots myself. Not that fat arms are bad or anything.
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>>63830725
W... WHAT.

How have I not seen this
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>>63830031
See, this is why I don't want the episode to exist
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>>63830846
Love this. Merida's one of my favorites.

Also Maudie.
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It'd be nice if there was a fat version of the dress tearing scene.
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>>63830835
Because people draw fanart of it?
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>>63830956
Or the disappointment at the show's rigid status quo?
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>That feel when everyone who's into WG on /co/ is only into cartoons and not comics

I know like maybe 2 guys who are into comics and fatties, and they both

1) Haven't regularly followed comics in a couple of years.

2) Are completely fucking insane.
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>>63830999
I always get Tubbytoon's old stuff and Chadrocco's stuff confused.
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>>63831078
You haven't been on /co/ very long have you?
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>>63830805
It was an episode during the Dark Surfer season, someone was trying to help grow her mouth back after someone took it (think it was Thanos) and overdid it.

>>63830956
No, because they never bother mixing it up and tend to ask for the same exact scene to happen to people in a different series. It's the Sonic of the weight gain community.
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>>63831147
To be fair for the past year and a half at least /co/'s tumblrite mods have viciously stamped out any semblance of it. I think myself, Dustin and Crag are the only ones who remember how things were before the dark times.
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>>63831285
Gooood times.
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>>63831169
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>>63831147
I've been here for a few years.

I mean don't get me wrong, comic girls get drawn. But what I'm looking for is someone who actively follows the modern books and there just aren't that many people who do it in general, let alone people who share my fetish.
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>>63831325
hell yeah they were
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>>63831080

early tubbytoon and Chadrocco were some of my favorite DA's, but TT changed his artstyle for the worse and Chad just barely draws anymore.

Shame
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>>63831518
Apparently Chad drew some stuff for /co/ awhile back.

Wish he'd draw for one of THESE threads, though.
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>>63831595
A bigshot online reviewer drawing for WG threads? Doubtful.
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>>63831595

Chad has one chubby waifu he seems found of
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>>63831452
Kinda hard to stay interested in Marvel with all the big pointless events and the interesting new characters getting thrown into an abyss.
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>tfw there is never any good male WG that's not pedo or furry
>tfw I know this feel >>>/d/5580998
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>>63831696

Think he'll ever do an video on her?
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>>63831780
well in another 6-15 months when he opens his video editing software, we might get that answer
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>>63831595
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>>63831595

Hey Dustin have you seen this one?
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>>63831951
Of course, that's a classic!
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>>63831285
jesus christ can we not blame tumblr
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also guy who is sad about people who don't read comics and also love fatsos

i read comics and im crag

im still pissed off that no ones drawn lardass kamala khan after she had CANONICAL BINGE EATING gosh DARN IT but I am too poor to commission someone doing a parody of the Demon in a Bottle cover with her looking distraught at a hot dog titlted "DEMON IN A BUN"
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>>63832216
Is there a reason so many people around here are so fucking tribal about the internet?

Did people around here rant about Facebook and shit before Tumblr was a thing?
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>>63832486
Before tumblr Hipsters and Fake nerds were blamed for everything
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>>63832486
it was reddit before facebook

i just don't see the point in blaming "tumblrite mods" for deleting what is essentially 5 guys circlejerking and sharing fetish smut when 5 other guys are blaming "tumblrite creators" for drawing a character slightly thicker than their last appearance (and getting us 300+posts of lardass fionna in the process)
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>>63806297
Fuck you. Double gaining is best
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>>63832803
My nigga.
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>>63832216
>>63832351
>>63832541
I have never seen you contribute anything to any fat related anything ANYWHERE, what the fuck do you do besides push your opinion on people and try to be funny/snarky?
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>>63830140
FEELS HORRIBLE MAN
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>>63827595
one of those awkward times I got a boner watching this show as a kid
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>>63832834
i convince people of the superiority of my other fetishes like girls with huge brains and psychic powers

go back to begging for axelrosered image packs, needledick, adults are shitposting in here
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>>63798884
I think i might pick this show up, made me chuckle a bit. MCs kinda cute too
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>>63833104
Stop being mean
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>>63831285
Hey I remember too.
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>>63806113
>we will never get that fic
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>>63833227
ok i will
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>diaper episode
>it's always a dude
Bullshit.
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>>63830898
wow my commission travels fast
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>>63831080
same here
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>>63831637
a person can dream can they.
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>>63806323
damn straight. it is utter joy for me. this type of fetish is hard to come by. I just like it when both sides get fat. it pleases everyone!
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>>63833307
We must always have hope that we can attract and keep writefags.
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>>63834620
Writefag here

pffffthahaha keep dreaming
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>>63834399
I hope whenever it does happen, it's not Idle that does it.
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>>63834906
Nah, I like Idle, except when he's doing the whole "so fat her leg fat seeps over her feet" thing.

I hate that shit so much.
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>>63835041

kdubs is king tho (when the lazy fuck does anything)
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>>63835735
I think Eishiban is my favorite, or at least he's the only one who's ever met my talent/cost ratio necessary to commission.
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>>63835041
But he's the only one that does them.
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>>63836008
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I sense that B-mage is here
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>>63835950
I've seen some of the stuff Eishi's done here on 4chan, and I love his style. He even did a cat-MILF fusion chart for me when those charts were in style.
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>>63797519
Because cartoons are about morals, really, and not getting fat is a lesson kids need to learn. But it's failing in America.
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>>63799223
They realized kids were getting boners.
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>>63799223
Some shit about politically incorrect to fat shame.
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>>63836061
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a pet peeve of mine when it comes to some weight gain episodes out there is that they never get the weight on a character right. such it is a cartoon but it always bothers me to see( for example) lilo become a balloon when she is suppose to be fat.
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>>63797519
I guess it is just for fat jokes or to provide a character with a challenge.

regardless I love and wait for these kind of episodes.
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>>63836570
>this episode with more detailed gaining instead of just everyone becoming spherical
Eternal. Diamond. Boner.
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>>63837055
YES! oh god yes
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>>63837055
>tfw I dreamed of that episode including nami getting involved with biggie doing the art direction for the weight gain all the way up to massive sizes
>tfw my sub conscious said fuck you and it was just that dream information that was implied but visually I barely saw much of the episode and didn't really get to see it first hand
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>>63825688
I remember it. It gave my adolescent self a boner.
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>>63837055
They'd still be all belly.
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>>63836570
that is why I really enjoy shows that does weight gain right or right enough for me to like the detail. which is why Passion Patties and Beauty and the obese are god-tier for me.
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>>63837290
>with biggie doing the art direction for the weight gain all the way up to massive sizes
>you will never live in a universe where the god-tier WG artists went into the animation industry

>>63837352
Do not rain on our parade. Unless the rain is the fattening chemical from Passion Patties, in which case you should rain on all parades.
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>>63836140
Your fatty artist sense is shit
Good news is it works as premonition

>>63837450
I'd settle for just artists like that having enough pseudo-celebrity clout to get invited to guest direct episodes of shows.
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>>63837626
I'd settle for just artists like that having enough pseudo-celebrity clout to get invited to guest direct episodes of shows

that sounds like a good idea to me
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>>63837720
>animexpansion.com
Jesus fuck, is that still around?
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>>63837423
Clover is a little too barrel shaped for my tastes in Passion Patties. I mean, when the episode first aired the mere fact that she was fat was enough for me, but with more discerning tastes these days I wish her boobs and butt were larger, and that her belly hung more.
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>>63837797
yes it is last time I check.
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>>63837930
good to see people like my commissions
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>>63837803
yeah larger breasts and more hung but we do not get to chose where our fat goes.
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is it just me or are we having way more of these threads than usual lately

not that I'm complaining
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>>63838067
I do not know, someone or something must have trigger it in people.
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>>63799223
Clarence and Steven Universe have fat main characters, which was not previously common.
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>>63825634
I forgot the details but didn't like living ginger bread men jump into his mouth and force him to eat them or something?
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>>63836570
The Frenchfry episode of the anime was even worse.

Not only did people blow up like balloons, they floated like balloons, even though they were fat.
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>>63838067
I wish they had more male characters in them, though
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>>63837797
It's stuck in a void of inactivity last I heard after the owner pissed off the last of the active people.

>>63838036
Fuck that weak shit.
Page 3-9 http://s50.photobucket.com/user/chaoblitzkrieg/library/other2?sort=3&page=3
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>>63837720
>>63837626
>>63837450
What artist(s) would you like to see direct an episode of:
Korra
American Dad
Ben 10
Gravity Falls
Steven Universe
Trying to pick currently running shows with decent enough art to support well drawn fat
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>>63838304
it okay, I like male weight gain as well.
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>>63838301
oh my god, they did do that. they dropped the ball on that one.
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>>63838573
From what I've heard about the anime, it shouldn't be surprising.
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>>63838340
oh yes I am saving this link. my man!
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>>63838350
gravity falls or ben 10 for me
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