What about a bishounen/pretty boy thread?
No traps or shotas or anything, just thin and androgynous/semi-androgynous guys who aren't super big/wide/glaringly masculine
It would be like going on /c/ and making a thread for cute feminine teenage girls
also both of the ones you posted look pretty trap desu
not a trap if he
a) is not cross-dressing
b) has relatively obvious male proportions (nothing that could be mistaken for curves)
c) is not posing/outwardly behaving in a stereotypically feminine manner
androgynous and/or bishounen meanwhile is typically some combination of
a) no facial hair
b) slender rather than muscular build
c) does NOT cross-dress or willingly attempt to pass for the other sex
d) generally (though not always) has little to no distinctly visible muscle mass
e) May have either short or long hair, and/or
f) more often than not has large eyes and a small face/indistinct chin and jaw
what more can you do to define androgyny and not fall into the full-blown trap category? Distinguishing between all these different types shouldn't be all that difficult
Sounds kinda like latent traps when you describe them that way.
OP here, would edit 1st post if I could, just use >>3000061 as a general guide
They may subjectively look pretty and somewhat effeminate (what do you think androgynous even means) but not to the point that you can just declare their gender either female or trap-kun with 99% confidence on the spot.
I always thought bishounen were guys like this... As in pretty skinny boys who still look at least a little masculine.
They can technically be either kind or both
Guessing that Syo is right along the lines of what OP is looking for