/alc/

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I don't frequent these threads, but I hope you all get better.

Canadians are gay

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>tfw sobriety is gradually becoming less annoying

>>9418215

ITT: pathetic faggots without healthy coping skills for life.

>>9418226
thanks baby

>>9418234
Joke's on you, verbal abuse is my fetish

Hahahahahahahahahaha how the fuck is alcoholism real hahahahaha nigga just put The bottle down like nigga close your lips a

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>>9418234
>he thinks being mean on the internet is a healthy coping skill

>>9418229
It's painfully slow, but anhedonia eventually goes away.

>>9418234
I love you too, Anon.

>>9418243
OK, what's wrong with my silhouette?

>>9418253
>anhedonia
Annoying water print right in the middle
Numbers on the bottom right
Doesn't look like there's enough out of the bottle to have filled that shot glass
Not drinking directly from the bottle

I've never had brandy before, is E&J a good cheap one to try out?

>mfw I take kratom and feel like $1M with literally no negative consequences
But I do like a drink too. Just had a cheeky few sips of vodka and a little V8 to wash her down.

>>9418234
Literally everyone who says this has a fucked up life.

>>9418226
We wont.

>>9418357
E&J is awful. There's not any good brandy that's cheap (sort of like Scotch). The best bang for your buck would prob be Courvoisier VSOP at $40-45, but that may be way more than you intend to spend.

Anyway, don't buy cheap brandy--waste of money. If you only want to spend less than $30, get bourbon, rum or vodka.

I fucked a hambeast while wasted last night. I even ate her out... my fingers fucking stank of fish afterwards. Would not recommend.

>>9418489
I always do this. Then I wash away my sins in the shower, and take my sacrament of Xanax and rum

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>>9418489
>>9418497
STOP TALKING ABOUT SEX

>>9418478
Don't listen to this cunt cheap shit liqour is cheap liqour, cheap Brandy is no exception. If you're here, you ain't paying more than $20 for any 1.75L

Just think of it sorta like a type of whiskey drink it in ice, I throw bitters in it and you're set to drink the bottle in a night

>>9418489
Once I fucked a straight up 9/10 qt.....but I barely remember it.

I'm ugly as fuck with zero personality or wealth. this will never happen again.

>>9418499
Why would you want to fuck a fat tub of lard dude. I'm 27 and a virgin but I would really never fuck a chick who is super fat.

>>9418512
It's called being a drunk mess, driving to get white castle cooked up and drunk at 430AM seems like a good idea.

>getting so drunk and horny you decide to hit the Craigslist

Did this a week ago. Woke up and immediately started remembering what I did and alcohol anxiety kicked in fucking hard.

I just want some comfy sex lads, why is it so difficult. Not had sex in 3 years.

>>9418566
tinder

>>9418506
>>9418478
I appreciate the higher end recommendation, but as my other friend here is suggesting, I'm looking for a change of pace regarding getting bombed and I heard from a buddy that brandy is a nice cheap way to accomplish that.

>>9418243
this desu

i realize being an alcohol is my own fault and i can be sober but i hate my life so i drink

>>9418447
>Common minor side effects may include nausea, vomiting, and constipation.[3] More severe side effects may include seizure, addiction, and psychosis.[3][8][9][10] Other side effects may include high heart rate and blood pressure, trouble sleeping, and, rarely, liver toxicity.[3][10][11] When use is stopped, withdrawal may occur.

hmmmmmmmmmm

I've been downing a 1.75L of gin a week for the past month or so, am I al/ck or are you guys more hardcore

>>9418676
>1750/7 = 250ml

That's fine

>>9418566
About 1 year dry, 2 years without sex.
I now found peace with the fact that I'll never fuck again, nor find true love.

>>9418651
Not him but it's less addictive than booze.
Given that even heroin is less horrible than booze, it's not such a great compliment.
That being said, it's easier to switch addiction to a healthier one than to stop everything. I use cannabis as a clutch, it's not perfect but at least I'm not killing my pancreas.

>>9418215
What fucking edition is this???

Past midnight, day 2 done. 24 minutes into day 3. Feeling ok, aside from the terror, nightmares and dumbshit cravings. I think I'm over the acute hit. Really mild WD after my first ever successful taper. Would recommended tapering.
Wonder if I'll still be able to come to al/ck/ if I can keep this up. This place helped me to fucking stay alive when at my absolute lowest. Too many reminders of the lifestyle, too many 'are you me?' moments.
25 minutes.

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>pretty much drink every day after work
>broke until Friday
>only have two 16 oz beers until then

pray for me, lads

>>9418717
Hitler was right edition

>>9418234
is internet flaming your coping skill?

>drinking a quart of liquor every.single.day. for 2 years straight (yes i know im fucked)
>went cold turkey 5 months ago, only lasted 2 weeks but had zero withdrawal symptoms
>went cold turkey again 36-48 hours ago
>woke up 7 times last night drenched in sweating with extreme paranoia
>hand was shaking all fucking day and kept sweating out of nowhere even though its cold climate here
>wtf.jpg


i thought alcohol withdrawal is a meme but am i gonna seizure or what

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>>9418215
Why are cooks always alcoholics? No offense to the skilled cooks around the world, but I mean we all came here in the first place because we liked cooking. Ive worked in restaurants and if they cooks aren't drunk at work, they are always getting drunk in the parking lot after work. So what gives?

>>9418717
The one where I had no idea for an edition, only hoped /pol/ wouldn't follow.

>>9418725
I come to remember the bad parts, being an asshole to everybody in my life, waking up withdrawing too much to pour a glass from a fucking 1.25L bottle, not eating for days and consequences, etc.

>>9418779
>am i gonna seizure
Possibly.
Tingling worsen withdrawals each time you stop like that, that's why you should taper or do benzo and not go cold turkey.

>>9418651
It's literally 1000X less harmful than alcohol. Worst thing you can do is take too much at once and you get nauseated and have to lie down for 2-3 hours. You won't crash a car killing people, lose your job, lose friends/family etc. etc., just might get dizzy and have to lie down. It really is far superior to alcohol.

>>9418676
I did that in a span of 30 hours and worked the next day, thought I was ok till the end of the shift when I was literally shaking so hard I couldnt use my mouse. the cursor was all over the place. Never had a withdrawl like that before. I played it off as anxiety from hurricane irma but honestly scared the shit out of me. Ive gotten the shakes before, but never in a crippling way. I had to walk home from work because I was scared to drive.

Retarded question:

I drank for like a month straight and stopped coldturkey. I had very mild withdrawals for a few days. Can I binge on the weekends now without fear of withdrawal? I know kindling lowers your threshold for withdrawal and I've heard of people getting withdrawal symptoms after a weekend of heavy drinking, so I'm not sure if I can go back to just getting fucked up on the weekends.

>>9418782
distraction from a shitty life, anon.

I am up to having 10 ounces of hard liquor a night, if I don't measure my drinks it gets out of hand.

Sometimes I am able to lie to myself and come up with a reason I shouldn't drink, like having an outing planned that night. When I buy into it I can go a few nights without touching the stuff.

Am I a lost cause at this point, or would actual human contact possibly pull me back?

>>9418838
Alcoholism runs in my family, and after my initial binge for a few months after I turned 21 I have been a weekend drinker for years. You're probably good.

>>9418838

even if you were drinkng 2L a day, 1 month of drinking is jack shit dude you'll be fine

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Tbh lads what should I eat

Been drinking beers all day and had an egg for breakfast and a mini Reese's my roomie had

Currently at a bar(menu attached) but live in Vegas - what eat al/ck/

>>9418851
>pretending youll have a real outing/social life so you wont drink

that hit too close to home. Its somehow even more sad knowing others do this, because then its like I feel like theres no escape, its so common. The worst is if you actually DO have a plan with others, it gets cancelled or whatever and you just go get drunk alone.

>>9418887
guinea pie all day nigga

>>9418900
That guinea is good shit pal

>>9418896
fuck, I was hoping I'd be the only one.

>>9418887

wings my man its an /alc/ thread

>>9418821
shit dude, stay safe

>>9418782
That doesn't look comfortable.

>>9418838
i've quit several times and I've found that the kindling thing isn't true for me at least. I got the shakes the first time I quit, but I drink heavier than that now and I don't get any real withdrawals when I stop now. Just saying it isn't for sure

>>9418887
Hello fellow vegas bro.
Hope you're staying cool.
Let's meet up and touch penises.

>>9418939
Shut I'm down. I stay up north on Decatur. Going to the Horton Heat show tonight st house of blues.

My menu I posted should give a hint of where I hang out.

Wouldn't these threads be more /r9k/?

Y'all aren't actually talking about drinking for the flavour.

>>9418960
Eh

>>9418950
Shiiiiiit I love the reverend, I've seen em like 3 times they put on a kick ass show. They have killer openers too. My brother lives up that way by the gun range but I don't even leave the house to visit him so I can't do it for you sorry anon. Have fun at the show though.

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Comin' out the damn withdrawal bros, made some good food and not feeling half bad, but uhhhhh, regular cums are like a fraction as good as withdrawal cums pls help I have to go back

>>9418960
/r9k/ is full of idiot kids biter at life and women.

>>9418980
It comes back after a while. It's part of anhedonia I guess.

>>9418978
Bummer. I'll be in the threads so if you get outta your shell one day let's grab a beer. Stay as well as you can lad.

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If I have been having on average 8 drinks a day for the last 10 years, how much longer do I have before my liver is kill?

How do i have a sober life? I usually smoke weed but when i can't get any i become a hardcore alcoholic. I go to the gym and run a lot but no matter what i do weed and alcohol make me feel a million times better than anything else. I got diagnosed with adhd last year so that might have something to do with it. I can barley function normally seems like i need something in my system.

>>9419008
bout half a century would be my guess

>>9419008
The rest of your god forsaken life...

>>9419008
honestly it really depends
some people can drink a liter a day and still die from old age because they drank a shit ton of water, always took vitamins (multi, super b, potassium), ate all the right things, exercised, ect.

Others get liver failure after 10 years of 5 shots a night because they never did any of that.

>>9419008
Depends on too many factor to give you an answer here. Environmental, genetic, luck.
See a doctor (a gastroenterologist) to have an answer.

Best cheap Scotch?

>>9419014
I NEED HELP FUCCCCCCCCCK

>>9418227
:(

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>>9419094
I'm sorry

what should i drink when I turn 21 on Friday
Not an alcoholic but I aspire to be one they are pretty cool chill guys in movies and such and everyone loves them like Barney

Has anyone ever drunk alcohol in a cinema? How was it?

pay day tomorrow, this boredom is killing me

im gonna get fucking rekt on vodka

>>9419067
Label 5

>>9419123
Get some Budweiser and try to blend in with the chads, you only get one shot at life.

>>9419123
did you watch leaving las vegas?

that's the real deal but without the cute hookers

is this also the tobacco general?

>>9419161
What do you think?

>waiting for check to clear
>do I spend my last dollar on booze or food?
>I'll just eat tomorrow
wew

>>9418215
I dunno how you guys do it, Im A week into a half a liter of 40% a night and im not even interested in finishing it, it physically hurts me.

>>9419196

so dont, and let your body rest

until next binge

>>9419067
Dewers, I wouldn't go cheaper than that.

>>9419196
It creeps in over the years.

>>9419141
i want to drink the good stuff now that I can buy it on my own
now I don't have to act like I don't know my friends when we go to the store and they want to buy alcohol

>>9419014

did you start taking adhd meds like adderall/vyvanse?

i started taking them and, for completely separate reasons, became a legitimate alcoholic 3-4 months later. no fucking shit taking all that dopamine while concurrently drinking shitloads of alcoholic will cause a synergistic effect and make me more prone to addiction, right?

i got kiked

>>9419189

>not maintaining a diet of beer + ramen and the cheapest cut of meat available of the day


not gonna make it lad

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do you guys prefer being alcoholics over having to deal with your problems while sober?

i've tried everything, and i just can't become normie. plus lately i think i've been going crazy because of the frustration, tossing shit around cuz i can't stay calm and gave myself a black eye. think i've earned a break desu senpai

I forgot that you need to eat before consuming large quantities of alcohol last night.

My head hurts from throwing up so much

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When will life kill me, I'm sick of existing like this

>>9419303
buy etiz over the internet, or get klonopin from a doctor. You can use low doses so they're therapeutic and actually help you, rather than just getting addicted (unless you tend toward addiction).

>>9419459
>(unless you tend toward addiction).
I think it's safe to say that probably describes everyone in this thread.

>>9419459
well some benzos don't hit as hard, so there's less potential for addiction. Just a thought. Klonopin works great for anxiety, but my body craves it less the next day than if I took xanax. Everyone's different though, but I've read more stories about nightmarish xanax addiction and none about the other benzos.

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I've cleaned up. I'm only on 1mg of klonopin and on okcupid on 500ml of jim beam black.

The psychiatist office made me an appt oct 31 (they're blood testing for alcoholism) but I figure i've got afew weeks to drink before I've got to start letting any levels go to normal. : D

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I don't have coke. but I have to get drunker than my body wants to. How do I keep drinking longer and harder? I'll drink as much as i can and still feel kinda sober. any suggestions?

>>9419571
I have this same problem. Just play power hour w/ shots every five minutes. Set a phone timer, and put on music/ a show/ movie you like. If you aren't fucked by the end of the hour, you're actually fucked.
That's the al/ck/ version that I've pioneered myself. You can also play every minute with a shot of wine, that also usually does the trick.

>>9419571
Also- if you've got Netflix play the Ip Man drinking game. Drink every time someone says "Ip Man", drink every time there's a fight, and drink every time the Japanese are dicks. I hope one of these options helps you, anon.

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>>9419595
The Ip Man game usually gets me FUCKED by about halfway through the movie. The "Ip Man" rule is what really does you in. Plus the movie is tight, and Donnie Yen is a badass.

>>9419587
I've been trying to do alcohol the way like a teenage stoner does weed. like down 5 shots in 20 minutes kind of thing. totally changes the vibe

>>9419132
There are movie theaters where that's their jam. It's fine although a bit pricier than the area normally and if it's a long movie you have to pee.

>>9419587
>>9419595

Watch beerfest. Every time they drink you drink. Every time they finish their beer finish your beer. You're drinking with friends!

>>9419429
Stay dry, pupper.

>>9419132
>>9419617
don't be fucking retarded. you bring in three tall boys or a mickey

Alcoholics, Why do you drink?

>>9419649
feels the best thing of my life

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>>9419459
>from a doctor
thats kinda the problem, i've gone through more doctors/psychiatrists/psychologists than i can count on my fingers and toes because there's no getting through to them
i'm pouring my heart out to them and they keep saying "your mind is playing tricks on you" etc implying i just need to git gud without offering any actual help
it's like i'm playing the worlds worst video game on an unbeatable difficulty

>>9419571
soak a tampon in absinth, insert into your butthole and do handstands

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>>9419649
Because I don't like my life, I fucked up my past, now I'm fucking up my future.

>>9419666
If you had a dealer, would you switch to H?

>>9419673
so, it's not clean here, hypotheticals are retarded, but if my h was clean, id give it a try, and if it was better then it would be my go to. Why do you ask?

>>9419649
I really really like alchohol

>>9418215
Today is my last day. I've got a litre of Wild Turkey and nothing to do tomorrow so I'm drinking this today and tonight and then aiming for 1 month. If I can make it to 1 month I can build on it from there.

>>9419689
wild turkey 101 is gorgeous. i was too cheap and got im beam black today.

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I've officially given up.
There is no going back now, I am the liquor.
I've disappointed myself, my family, and everybody I've ever promised anything to.
Am I even real.
When will this ride end?

Hello I am drink. I have tonight bee. Drinking einstock and Russian standard vodka mixed with cranberry juice. Hello friends I wish you well

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being drunk is the best feeling in the world.
getting more drunk only feels better.
but at a certain point i just feel dizzy
and nauseous.

I wish I could just keep drinking and it could just get better.

what drug does this?

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>>9419707
7 months sober here

moving out of sober living tomorrow, just had a long talk with my roomie about DT's

going to a baseball game on saturday, gonna be triggering

just have to remember the horrible times

I can't drink like other people

>>9419707
Also I've gained 40 pounds since I moved back into my parents attic a year ago. And it's almost the 2 year anniversary of my culinary internship, that I fucked up.

>>9419720
>7 months sober here
>moving out of sober living tomorrow
Good luck anon. Just stay away from any old alcoholic friends you used to know, they always end up dragging you back into the web

>>9419721
this has nothing to do with hardcore drinking fuck off

>>9419429
Stay dry, pupper.

>>9419694
Damn right it is. This is just 86 though. Went for quantity over quality. I don't mind 86.

>>9419720
sorry didnt mean to reply >>9419707

read your post though and my best wishes go out to you, you look like a decent guy, around my age. Medical detox and rehab isn't that bad. They give you comfy meds and then rehab is kinda fun actually, like a vacation with therapy.

>>9419721
>>9419707
And my parents are moving back to my childhood hometown, and being a broke alcoholic I have to follow along.
I'm mid-twenties and am going to have to talk to faggots I grew up with and went to high school with when I see them on the street or in stores.
I'm sure they will notice I am a numb, dead eyed loser. The dark circles under my eyes have gotten so severe, I look like I have 2 black eyes.

>>9419429
If I ask for death will I receive it?

>>9419728
Fuck you faggot.

>>9419689
how about you go for a week first?

>>9419649
I'm not an alcoholic.

>>9418228
Why is she so sad?

>>9418782
people who work in restaurants are insane. i should know i have been doing it for 10+ years

>>9418782
We are alcoholic because stressful job, low pay, abusive bosses. Also you have to have fucked something up in life to become a cook and stick with it.

>>9418229
Great for you mate. Keep it up.

I've been on a ten day binge (on vacation). Need to clean my shit up before I get back home and to the spouse. Fuck, not looking forward to the WDs.

>>9419740
Quit being such a drama queen jesus christ

>>9419770
Sorry

>>9419747
Sound strategy but I want to set longer term goals but still somewhat realistic. Babysteps might be the best option though.

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>>9419740
>And my parents are moving back to my childhood hometown, and being a broke alcoholic I have to follow along

literally did the exact same thing a month ago
i feel it too man

>>9419792
>literally did the exact same thing a month ago
>i feel it too man
How did it work out for you? Was it bad?

>>9419772
Nah don't be sorry, just live your life how you got to and dont feel bad for doing whatever you feel you have to to get by.
Whatever you do don't take advice from a stupid fuck like me.

>>9419796
I was being a drama queen though. Mostly because I was thinking about the past.
But anyway, I wish you the best in life anon, you seem like an ok guy.

>>9418227
god I wish

>>9419794
i was already at a low point and desperate, thought a change of scenery would do me good but i simply don't have the energy or willpower to make anything out of it. it feels so strange even though i grew up here, and i miss the safety net i had going for me back where i lived. talk about a rude awakening.

fuck man, i'm even posting this using mobile broadband capped at 200gb/month (split across 4 people) costing half a fortune because no internet provider where i live. don't even have any way to entertain myself anymore. i want to say it can't get any worse than this but at this point i'm getting superstitious and don't wanna jinx it lol

what about you, hows it looking?

>>9418842
>>9419760
I've worked in kitchens for almost ten years and I fucking hate the bullshit "angry intense shitty kitchen environment" meme. A kitchen runs on efficiency and stamina, nobody needs to be a macho dick barking orders and waving their dick around. I can see that attitude dying out a bit and I'm glad to see it go. Kitchen work doesn't have to be so shitty.

what the fuck is in Black Velvet that makes my piss smell so fucking weird...BV pee smells like piss after sex with a rubber, like hot piss and latex smell..I mean, im not gonna stop drinking it or anything but, the piss smell is kinda fuckin weird. Oh well, just wanted to pop by and blog while i have the thought. Good luck and cold booze to everyone.

>>9419847
I feel you anon, I don't know if I'll have the willpower to make something happen when I move either. It's almost not worth it.
I really hope you find something that makes your move worth it. And I wish you all the best anon.

>what about you, hows it looking?

Idk how it's looking so far, it just feels awkward, because my parents bought a home in the same neighborhood and everything. I really don't feel like seeing people from my past, I burned too many Bridges and have too many enemies.

After spending 2 weeks sober I've discovered everything is boring and I drank because everything seems better when I do.

Sooo fucking boring.

>>9419429
Stay dry, pupper

>>9419718
long term alcoholism

>>9419857
yeah, its only the napolean dick bags who do that shit, and they have such bad turnover its not even worth the time. Work smarter, not harder, make the most efficient use of motion and time, and if you gotta dump your anger, do it on yourself, at home, dont shit where you work, shit where you sleep, so at least you're the only one who has to sleep on a shitty mattress, not your co workers.

>>9419857
>Kitchen work doesn't have to be so shitty.
It does not. Unfortunately at 95% of restaurants it is.
I do miss my internship in a James Beard award winning chefs kitchen, it was the best running kitchen I have every seen, worked like a clock, nobody yelled, and very clean.
Best 3 months of my adult life. Wish I wasn't an alcoholic/drug addict at the time and could remember it more.llell

>>9418226
I just hope I fucking die soon.
Then at least I won't have to fill out some many damn captchas.

Any of you guys ever chug azeotropic alcohol?

>>9419867
fingers crossed for a pleasant unexpected surprise

i know whatchu mean about burnt bridges etc, but hopefully your new situation will allow for you do to do shit on your own that gives you some peace of mind

keep on truckin

>>9418509
Had the same experience. Glad to know someone else has this feel.

how can you even be an alcoholic
alcohol tastes so shit

>>9420127

are you simple Jack?

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Anyone else short-term sober? Man it's a good feel. Scared to death I'll soon relapse and lose this cosiness.
Third day of no booze or benzos, after a taper. That's a big deal for me. No craving today, even though I've got 33L of cider here.
Been smoking like an eighth of weed daily though. Woke feeling amazing, level of comfy makes me feel a feel of cosy so sublime, I feel so soothing a feel it takes me back to childhood.
Weed will run out today and I'm not going back to associating with dealers all the time, so I'm gonna spend one more day floating on a cloud of comforting THC from morning to night, then tomorrow is the real test. Actual sobriety. No pro help, no social support structure, no weed. Got to fight the devil bare-knuckled and unassisted, to the death. If I relapse again I honestly think it'll kil me.

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>>9420205

Only sober cause I'm waiting on 300 liters of wash to finish so I can make vodka.

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>>9419649
Shattering anxiety, depression, regret, loneliness, fear of confronting the state of my reality while sober. The usual suspects.

Anyone still up? Could use a friend...

>>9420306

What do you need? I'm so hosed I'm watching Jag.

Just drunk and bored out of my mind. Work in four hours.

>>9419649
Because I am not happy sober. For no good reason I might add... but not happy none the less.

>>9420320

Have you played XCOM 2? That shitty game is a misery to most people, but it will absorb your time.

>>9420324

If you're sober and happy, you're an idiot. But its the best condition.

>>9420325
I've heard this actually. I should probably check it out. Fuck me man I don't want to wake up tomorrow

>>9420306
We're all famalam on the chan.

Anyone watch AHS? I hardly watch any television at all, but I always give that shit show a view for some reason.

>>9420358

You should try American Gods instead. I don't like it but, people like you seem to.

>>9420366
Never tried either desu famalam.

You know I'm getting really into the whole shitting piss thing, it's way more comfy, now that I've gotten confident in it I don't try to hold it back I just blast everything out. It's comfy, and there's no 20 minutes of pushing a turd out that doesn't want to come out.
Plus it does feel amazing in a way

>>9418512
Good on you. It's not worth it.
I had chances with fat girls but I made sure to turn all of them down. As a result I had to wait until I was 20 to lose my virginity, but at least it was to somebody I was actually attracted to.

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>>9419429
Stay dry, pupper

>>9420407
>tfw alcoholism gave you an enema fetish

I'm starting to fill my life with stuff, but it's not helping
I would drop it in a second if I could afford a bender

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>>9420600
I'm trying to cook to keep me away from the bottle. This is today's lunch, a kilo of slow-roasted pork belly with loads of crackling Gonna have some of the pork shredded into some creamed cabbage, with small cubes of crackling as a crouton. served with its own gravy, over roast onions and carrots. Might have another at dinner time. I've decided that at least one full roast a day is essential to my sanity, gives me SOMEthing to do.

>>9420230
So that's corn flour, sugar and water? How much will it yield, and do you get rid of methanol?

>>9420714
Oh and yeast.
I just mix yeast, yeast nutrient and apple juice to make cider. Never distilled any after fermentation either. Too expensive and too illegal.

>>9419132
Pretty gud.

>watching movie at cinema
>press a button
>waitress comes up and asks what i want, order beer & nachos
>continue watching movie
>few min later she comes and brings my stuff.

Its a small cinema with a shit floor layout but the service while watching makes it worth it.

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>>9420714

The myth of making booze is that you always have to deal with methanol. You don't. Fruit pectin creates methanol, that's why wine gives you a horrible hangover. If you don't have pectinase, you don't have methanol. Regardless I throw out 150ml of every 3 liters of distillate from a stripping run. It's mostly acetone like shit, ethyl acetate and whatnot. That mixture right there is actually tomato based.

115L of water
30Kg Sugar
1326ml tomato paste (8.5cans)
5tsp Citric Acid
380g Yeast
1 tsp Epsom salt
2 campden tablets in water

That finishes in 5 days and makes enough booze for half a year.

>>9420723
Freeze distill it.
Cheap, easy and legal.

>>9420785

Applejacking concentrates any methanol in your booze, just so you know. It'll be fine, but your headaches will be sublime.

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>>9420781
holy shit i did not know

I'm not much of an alcoholic (yet anyway), but I enjoy drinking a couple times a week. Having blanco tequila now and this is the first time drinking tequila since about 5 years ago, I bought it because I wanted to see what it tastes like, I have completely forgotten it's taste. So far it smells very much of rye and is quite sweet and has more of a burn than I'd expect at 38%, almost spicy. So far it's quite nice

>>9420810

Acetone Boiling point 56 °C
Methanol Boiling point 64.7 °C
Ethyl acetate Boiling point 77.1 °C
Ethanol Boiling point 78.37 °C

This is how we distill booze.

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In case you wonder why your booze tastes and smells like it does here's the table of esters.

Is there any other tips you can give me or is that it? I see that you should preferably have a high quality termometer to be able to respond to the various volitale compounds evaporating.
Could freeze distilling with cryogenic liquids be an option due to the 15 degree difference in freezing point, or is it not worth the hassle?
Considering ethanol has the lowest boiling point too.
Ethyl acetate has almost the same boiling point as ethanol, but the freezing points are much farther apart.

>>9420885
>Ethanol has the lowest boiling point
Melting point, sorry

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>>9420885
I use a digital thermometer on everything I make. Every single time. That's the thermometer that measures vapour temperature.

>>9420885

I could spend an entire day talking to you about distilling alcohol. This just isn't the forum for anyone who is remotely clever.

Anybody else gets moderate anxiety from low level alcohol doses? If with people I usually think that I appear more impaired to them than I actually are, if by myself I usually feel bad about my drinking. When I get fucked up all of that shit passes away

>>9418447
You know you're a boozer when you just drink straight vodka wft anon.

>>9420921
To add to that I actually feel more confident sober than drunk, it's like I understand that I'm inhibited and I get impaired. Anybody else gets shy when drunk, I think that's pretty atypical

>>9420885
Obviously you don't want a shitty thermometer but it's not that critical. Substances will start to evaporate well before their literal boiling point. For example, if you put a pot of water on the stove to boil you'll notice that the bottom of the lid will fog up with condensation well before the water is actually boiling.

So even if you have a super-precisely made still and it's running at exactly, say, 65C there will still be some ethyl acetate adn ethanol coming out of the still even though we haven't reached their respective boiling points yet.

This is why distillers commonly discard the first stuff that comes out of the still (commonly called "the heads") when it's come up to the proper temperature. And likewise the last stuff to come out of the still, aka "tails", is also discarded.

Freeze distillation certainly is a thing. That's how many of the "beers" with crazy high ABVs are made. But it is a costly process so it's usually only used for expensive specialty products.

>>9420925

jesus christ, you're really trying to tell me about fractionation? Look up a reflux still buddy. I have a 6ft copper stuffed factionating still. That's how you get Azeotropic alcohol.

look that up too.

>>9419764
Damn man, hope you can avoid the DT's. I did that one and the plane home was hell.

>>9420925

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azeotropic_distillation

>>9420936
>Look up a reflux still buddy.
I own two. Both homemade.

>> That's how you get Azeotropic alcohol.
Nope. You need a lot more than a fucking fucking reflux still to break the azeotrope.

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>>9420825

>>9420925

You're talking to someone who has been making EhOH for a decade.

>>9420946
Or you could use molecular sieves

>>9420950
The post i replied to would seem to suggest otherwise. I can't imagine anyone with a decade of experience asking newbie questions like >>9420885

anybody else feel good?

>>9420956

I was replying to that guy, what are you talking about?

>>9420956
Don't know the guy you're replying to but he's not me, this is the downside to anonymous boards

>>9420946

Azeotropic alcohol is what you can produce at STP. Don't you know that?

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who else here vicious cycle?
>hit the point, have to stop
>pull it off for three weeks
>lose 25lbs
>feel great
>ambitious, getting shit done
>family gathering, one drink
>next day i'm heading to the liquor store at 9am and drinking at work.
>stop after work and pound 200ml vodka before working in the door
>somehow my wife doesn't know i'm sneaking booze
>repeat

send help. all i want to do is leave work and go get booze.

i can't keep doing this...

>>9420966
I thought you meant you could get better than azeotropic, i.e. 100% ABV, from a reflux still.

>>9420909
Why measure vapour temp

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This is lazy 92% alcohol from my still. What is azeotropic at STP? 93.7?

>>9420980

Who doesn't measure vapour temp in a boka still? Do you even do this shit?

>>9420977

So you don't know what azeotropic alcohol is then.

>>9420986
I'm trying to learn

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>>9420991

Oh, ok, you need to know what's flowing up to your condenser. You're basically creating a petroleum tower if you've ever seen a gasoline factory. It fractionates all of the chemicals by temperature. Ethanol coming out at the draw point.

>>9420989
I do, I was just paying half attention to this thread. I thought people were talking about going beyond azeotropic, but that's my own fault for not reading more closely. Generally the only time anyone mentions an azeotrope is when they are expressing the desire to go past it.

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Wanted to smoke, but I couldn't find a lighter, so I had to use up one of these beauties

I heard once that there two kinds of people, one who loses lighters and another who gains them, I use to be the first one, but slowly I lost my collection of random lighters

>>9420967
I feel you famalam

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>>9421001
Okay, so by measuring the temperature at various points you can estimate what you're extracting

I've seen one of these once but I've never used one, and barely understand the theory behind it

>>9421054
Yeah, that's a kind of a reflux column.

It's simply a tube with a bunch of surface area inside it. That gives space for liquid to condense out of the vapor inside and drip back to the bottom of the still.

When I make them for booze I stick copper pot-scrubbing pads down inside the column. Anything that adds surface area and can withstand the chemicals/temperature will work.

>>9421059
I actually think it's called a fractional column

>>9421062
same thing.

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>>9421059
But what I don't understand is how this helps in separating the chemicals, as ethanol will be the first one to condense, and as such will be at the bottom of the stack

Anybody wants to chat? feeling like I need some communication and don't want to go to bars, because I dread the potential hangover, gotta stay functional

>>9421071
Wait I'm just retarded

what is the cheapest vodka i should buy?

>>9421094
The highest up the shelf that you can afford, dunno.

>>9418238
Ha, got 'em.

>>9421094
they call me the skol crusher, so i think you know what i'd recommend

>>9421094
the cheapest one you can afford

>>9419282
>not rice, beans and moonshine

amateur poverty

I want to lie down and sleep for a month at least.

>>9421001
Looks good.

For the less advanced drunks here I might point out that you can make perfectly drinkable booze with just sugar, water, a turbo yeast and a crude potstill without any thermometers or measuring or whatever.

It won't come out as clean as what you're doing but it's still better than most stuff you can get at the store, especially if you run it through some activated charcoal.

Popov is $12 for handle here in Maryland

God I hate that all my cash goes to booze I found $4 under my bed and first thing I thought was "hey that's 3 shots of Stoli"

>>9418782
Stressful low pay industry that works people...that and there is usually a bar attached to the kitchen so right there is an easy answer to that stress filled day

>>9418782
> we all came here in the first place because we liked cooking
Fuck that. I got into restaurants because my dad kicked my ass and told me to get a job when I was 15. I got a job washing dishes, and it just sort of went from there.

>>9418215
4 days sober
doing well this time chaps
still sleeping and chilling on the floor when im not doing activities around the house
job interview tomorrow after a successful phone interview today. wish me luck bros. gonna have 2 weeks alone in my house in a few days, gonna take some serious will power

Anybody else gets a very strong urge to go to bars? I already know the scenario, get fucked up, talk to random people, get home, regret. But still the feel is very strong

>>9421355
Not really. Too expensive nowadays, and it's shit there anyway. Pool, darts and grils swimming in std's. I'm staying with my pc, porn and cheap booze.

>>9420616
Looks dank. Would eat

>>9419429
Why not... who gives a shit.
Stay dry, pupper.

>>9419132
I literally don't go to the movies unless I've been drinking or am drinking, and it's been this way for close to 10 years.
It feels fucking good dude and my hometown theater has a bar in it now, and my apartment somewhere else is located right next to a bar and a theater which are right next to each other. I fuckin vape in the theater as well but I sit in the back so the "smoke" doesn't impede someone else's view. If I wanted to pay more, I could sit in a recliner and order whatever food and drinks I want to at any time, but I tend not to do that just out of preference.
I used to put a mickey of vodka in my boot all the time before alcohol was offered at the theater and it was great.

>>9419123
Everyone actually fuckin hates them if you really become one. Don't fall for the movie meme and don't romanticize any drug to any degree for any reason, and definitely never start drinking for any emotional reason whatsoever. You have to be a transcendently pleasant fellow if you can be an alcoholic and still have many people enjoy your company save for if you have a lifelong true friend or hard drinking people.
t. alcoholic

>>9421175
Apple Juice + Sugar + Champagne yeast.
Makes damn good cider, add some tea for tannin.
Quiet cheap, brewing is 98% Fertilisation, 2%b mixing :^)
May be sweet but mighty strong.

>>9421611
I did this but distilled the end result.

Making a sugar wash is cheaper, simpler and gives better end results though. The apple juice distillate tastes nice but it's less clean and pure.

If you're going to drink without distilling the fermented apple juice sure beats the taste of kilju though.

I skipped a whole bunch of new answers to announce that my beer(?) farts smell absolutely toxic right now

please god help me

>>9421705
Screamed this in an ER 3 months ago, no joke.
It's bad.

>>9421731
I screamed repeatedly while withdrawing in hospital apparently. Legit at the top of my lungs, just non stop. They had to put me in my own room.

>>9419649
Feeling or non-feeling of numbness, it makes life go faster or gain importance and every action or feeling can be blamed on alcohol.
But I am going to stay off spirits it will not get so bad if I remember to eat food.
I guess by now it is just habit.
Regularly drink 20 units a night, I used to drink 60+ when I was deep into the zone, now it just battling to find a compromise between comfy, diarrhea, meaning and ego.
Note: Must remember to start going to gym

>>9419689
haha

>>9419707
Shit taste never ends pleb

>>9419747
With a week you're just out of withdrawls. Might as well go a month at that point, the first week is the worst.

>>9421747
It's really a hellish experience and honestly yours was probably even worse than mine when I was screaming like a maniac. I wasn't full DT withdrawing but it was because my hip joint was going to hell and now one of my legs is shorter than the other one. Very likely cause by drinking if you look it up.

>>9421683
Maybe some crossed wires, but my basic recipe is for homebrew cider/apple wine at a very low cost.
So two very different things, with brewing being far more accessible than distilling spirits.
Distilling takes equipment and time.
I would never try making prison wine or such concoctions when I can safely brew goodish cider instead.
Good luck with the distilling I do not have the room, but if I did I might think brewing would be more worthwhile, considering the price of 40% ethanol, would be interested in a cost breakdown for moonshine??? vs real though. :):):)

>>9418717
Alcoholism thread edition.
And also this.>>9418739

>>9421175

ok, 'turbo' yeast creates so many fusils and off putting tastes that it's far more of a problem that using bakers yeast. It will give you 18% alcohol, but that alcohol will make you wish you were dead. My booze gives you 13% with very low fusils that you can drink from the first extraction. It's also very cheap. $120 bucks buys you 300 liters of 13%. Do the math on that. It's about 3 bucks per handle.

>>9418782
It makes perfect sense, but I can't articulate it to you, I'm not a cook. To me it just fits. Another guess I would have is that it seems like such stressful work and wine is such a traditional ingredient in some dishes.

>>9421278
You could try to be the next Marco dude. You'll never be as good as him, but still.

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This is how a reflux column works. Every few inches a different chemical sets up shop. methanol at the bottom ethyl acetate, and eventually you get to EtOH which comes off at the needle valve. The alcohols above ethanol taste like cardboard. No shit, cardboard.

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>>9421879

jesus christ, wrong pic..

>>9421802
>Good luck with the distilling I do not have the room
I distill on my desk while shitposting in a room the size of a jail cell, it's possible if you want. My costs come down to <€1 for a litre of vodka in resources.

>>9421837
>ok, 'turbo' yeast creates so many fusils and off putting tastes that it's far more of a problem that using bakers yeast. It will give you 18% alcohol, but that alcohol will make you wish you were dead.
I've drank turbo yeast sugar wash single distilled and unfiltered and felt better than with most store bought booze. I distil small batches slowly in an all copper still, that may help though.

I have yet to try baker's yeast but already bought soem. I know it's supposed to taste a lot better so I have high hopes if I already enjoy my current results. I have tried to use champagne and wine yeast and a specific vodka yeast (sort of a semi-turbo designed to get a relatively clean sugar wash result in a week for potstill plebs like me) and the last one was the cleanest so far. Now that the weather is getting cooler I will try a nice patient baker's yeast batch soon.

Do you do any filtration at all? And to what abv do you dilute?

>>9418779
You need to come off the sauce slowly if you are going to do it. that's why people die in rehabs they go cold turkey and it fucks them up.

>>9421900
imagine a bread taste in a liquid, also lots of residue because low volume alcohol before the yeast shit the bed.

>>9421900

http://shuggo.com/birdwatchers/calculator.htm

I drink the 'low wines' because I'm lazy and it tastes so good. But I made a proper vodka a few times and it tastes like a mild vanilla if anything at all at 50%.

My Low Wines come off at 65% and 55% for the next handle. That's what I drink it at. No filtration that's pointless. If you create high or low fusils with turbo it's not worth it.

>>9418779
Kindling.

>>9421917

There's no bread taste at all in Birdwatcher's. If you had a taste carry over after distillation it would be tomato, but it just doesn't happen at all. This is about making EtOH and nothing else. That's how factional distillation works.

>>9421900

My Birdwatcher's Bakers yeast batch finished in 3 days. Nothing patient about it. 5 days max on most batches. I actually hyperventilated walking into the room with the 300 Liters of fermenting booze because of the high CO2 content. Kinda dangerous.

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>>9421918
> But I made a proper vodka a few times and it tastes like a mild vanilla if anything at all at 50%.
By proper vodka do you mean running it twice or thrice or something?

>My Low Wines come off at 65% and 55% for the next handle. That's what I drink it at. No filtration that's pointless.
I like it the best fresh, but if it's a few days older running it through activated charcoal a few times improves it desu.

>If you create high or low fusils with turbo it's not worth it.
You mean not worth drinking at all?

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Good evening friends, I hope you are all doing well.

>>9421939

Not like booze is not worth drinking, it's booze. But having all of those off flavours isn't worth the extra 5-6% alcohol you get from the low attenuation yeast strains. They're bread to live in high alcohol environments, but they produce shit we don't like. I make a shit load of 'natural' booze that immediately tastes good right out of the vat, so losing the extra percent per liter isn't a problem to me. Birdwatcher absolutely nailed his recipe while he was alive, 20 minutes after I pitch it, it's almost dangerous to be around its so active.

As for fresh, ahhhh not that important, I like the sodium bicarbonate to work on it for a while to deal with the 'volatiles' for a bit. It converts higher alcohols into ethanol over time. If you could add sodium carbonate itself instead of baking soda it would do the job in no time. I just can't find food safe sodium carbonate around here. It's "washing soda" here and it has perfumes in it.

>>9421094
The 2nd Cheapest.

>>9421939

I assume you know about homedistiller.org. It's the distillers bible. Other folk should know about it if they're going to get into it.

>>9421957
You've certainly enthused me, will go full Birdwatcher next time.

>>9421967
I know about it but haven't read much of it yet, will look into it more.

I use their dilution calculator a lot though, handy as fuck.

>>9421974

It's so idiot proof I can't even sell it better. This is my recipe for a giant brute food safe container.

115L of water
30Kg Sugar
1326ml tomato paste (8.5cans)
5tsp Citric Acid
380g Yeast
1 tsp Epsom salt
2 campden tablets in water

>>9421975

its the forums they have there more than anything. Those fuckers love their hobby.

>>9421978
Fresh or dry yeast?

The campden tablets are against contagion I presume? Do you ferment with open vats or was that just for the picture?

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lets go boys

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>>9421988

That's the yeast. Campden tablets are for dechlorinating. I get water from Lake Huron.

>>9421988

Open covered. I tried to hermetically seal them, but it's a pain in the ass and not worth it. Just keep dirt out of them and bugs and you're fine. I've had vats sit around for half a year without any change at all. It's essentially wine, it kills everything.

Just got off work and downed half a fifth. All I've eaten today has been a 150 cal bag of pistachios and that's all I intend to eat AMA

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>>9422234
Good lad

>>9422234

the buzz i get after downing half a fifth in less than an hour, its better than sex, its like life is in a fucking bliss

no more problems, til you wake up the next day

>>9419707
It really is Mr. Bones Wild Ride dude, it never ends. The only good luck I've ever had in my life is having a good friend who won't leave me and having forgiving parents which is huge and more lucky than you can ask for.
I hope you can stop drinking some day.

>>9422298
Meh. If you've got a drink's worth left in the morning, you're good to go.

Hangovers are a meme if you're not dried out

>20 somethings who still feel bad about failures and embarrassments

Lmao. The successful people you compare yourself to will divorce their whore wives, watch their kids flounder and will gain 45 lbs of pure fat.

If you're healthy, have minimal no debt and a functioning brain, you're good to go. Just get a shit job and a hobby.

>>9422321
>If you're healthy, have minimal no debt and a functioning brain, you're good to go. Just get a shit job and a hobby.
I've been doing that for 10 years and once you hit 30 it's not enough.

>>9422298
what
>>9422311
said, you can always just counter with some taper booze until you get ff work/school whatever you have to do

In my case though I'm using alcohol to further my anorexia, it wipes away any appetite I may have had so I need the calories in the morning to keep me going through work until I can go on break and eat a tiny thing

>>9422336
It's a start for young guys. If you're not capable of building a life for yourself in modern western society as a healthy, avg+ IQ male, just go out into the wilderness and build a shack.

>>9419689
Didn't make it through the bottle. Had a massive chicken parma at about 9:30pm and then was too full to drink anymore. Went to bed and instantly passed out. Now I've got about 300ml left over. Fucking hell.

How do you guys deal with anxiety after a bender

>>9422344
>It's a start for young guys
I think it's a load of shit
The time to be ruthless and put in the solid work needed to have a life worth living is when you're in your young 20s. Preferably earlier, but teens are too stupid really to do it right.

Don't just get a shit job to cruise your 20s.
You're never getting that time back and once it's gone, you'll be stigmatized for life
>It says here that you washed dishes for 6 years. Do you have any other experience?
You'll be labelled a retard and it doesn't matter if you have a university degree with honours. No one is going to want to hire you for anything above menial labour because lack of experience begs the question of why didn't anyone else hire you?

>>9422361
Jerk off a lot

>>9418447
Kratom is great, But i just cant stop drinking

>>9422365
You're dealing with NEET alcoholics. A 24 year old alkie's first step should be a job stacking shelves and when they regain some clarity, education.

>>9422370
This, and exhaust yourself physically with exercise.

>>9422370
I fap so much when I'm hungover. No idea what's with that. I'll cum like 5-7 times throughout the day if I've got nothing to do.

>>9422388
Same.
Don't know why either. Some chemical brainfuckery

>>9418509
That happened to me too.

>ugly as fuck
>zero personality
>work at fucking rent a center
>somehow fucked a 9/10 literal milf i met at a pampered chef party
>barely remembered it the next day
>never fucked anything over a 5/10 after that

>>9422376
Yeah, that's true I guess.
Journey of a thousand miles starts with a first step and all that shit.
For NEETs though I'd recommend washing dishes. So long as you look remotely clean and can show up on time, you'll be hired. And you don't even need to talk to anyone.
Stocking shelves leaves you open to normies asking you where the fucking cornflakes are

>>9422388
>>9422390
Serotonin. Drinking depletes your brain of serotonin and ejaculation floods your brain with it.

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Midnight gone, on into day 4. Weed has just run out however. Am now entering new territory: total sobriety.
Have almost no faith this is possible.

I've been posting here for a while. Why isn't this just an /r9k/ general?

>>9422407
Tradition and also /r9k/ sucks

>>9422391
I once fucked a former Playboy model who used to frequent the restaurant I worked at, the rest of the women I've been with have been 3/10

>>9422405
Sobriety always gets easier as time goes on for me. If I can pass Day 3, I can go on for a while longer.
The difference between a successful streak and one that has me falling back into the bottle is how many things I can do in a day.

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>>9422405

>>9422408
True. I know it's part of /ck/'s culture, I've just always wondered why mods are cool with it.

>>9422411
How the fuck did you do that?

I don't even remember what i said to that broad at the pampered chef party. I was drunk before I even got there, I only remember us briefly talking about politics and drinking wine
>tfw will never fuck a hot playboy model

>>9422424
Board culture and they're high traffic threads. If one wasn't permanently on here the alcoholic talk would spill out into other /ck/ threads or other boards.

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23 minutes till I can have a drink.
It's been a rough one today

>>9422013
>>9422020
I see, thanks for all the answers. I use a 30L plastic beer fermenter with an airlock myself, but I haven't had a contaminated batch yet while I haven't been all that careful and hygienic with the thing. Being anal about cleanliness is more for brewers than people making a simple sugar wash I guess.

>>9422432
Why 23 minutes?

>>9422435
My concession to dignity is that I don't start drinking before 6:30

>>9422436
am/pm?

>>9422432
Enjoy responsibly.

Does one shot of vodka help you fall asleep if you're not an alcoholic?

>>9422438
PM
I have the whole day to say I'm going to do things but then not do them

>>9422442
Why would you ask a bunch of alcoholics how a non-alcoholic feels? Literally the worst place you could have asked.

>>9422442
Of course.
That's why a "nightcap" is a thing

>>9422442
I get a stimulant effect from alcohol. Can't pass out until my brain shuts off

>>9422442
All one shot does to me is signal "we're entering the fun part of being awake now".

Too depressed to go to my m8's wedding desu. I'll probably have an anxiety attack just driving into the parking lot

Anyone got a clue about japanese gin?
I'm in Japan right now and looking to get a bottle or two to bringa back home.
What should I look for?

>>9422447
Good for you man.


I can't do that.

I tell myself once I get off work I can drink, Idc if that's 8am or 3pm.

As long as I go to work on days I'm scheduled I tell myself I've been good and deserve to get drunk

>>9422459
This.


until I've drank so much alcohol that It's acting as a strong sedative then im not falling asleep at all.

>>9422472
Don't feel bad.

I didn't go to my own brothers wedding because I was drunk and had crippling anxiety around all his wifes hot ass friends. I got up and got dressed, Had a few drinks for courage then wound up getting hammered drunk. Called a taxi then had second thoughts and cancelled the taxi.


I was supposed to be best man too so that really pissed off his wife, She hated my guts way before that though.

>>9422480
Relevant


https://youtu.be/3rt2DwMhquk

>>9422472
>>9422484
I went to my best friend's wedding last year. I was sober when I arrived but not when I left.
I didn't get so bad, but I ended up talking about how much I didn't think it was a good idea to our mutual friend. I really hope I didn't say anything load enough to be overhead.
I mean, it it really was a bad idea. They've only been dating for less than a year and she's got all kinds of mental problems. And I was kinda sour that I wasn't offered to be best man despite being the groom's best friend for 15 years. I was just kinda shoved in the corner.

Whatever. It was still rude of me to talk bad then, even if they didn't hear me.

>>9422498
I'm only 30 seconds in and I'm already relating.

>>9422357
That's a good thing. Now you can sip that at your leisure today and have a softer landing.

Well past bump limit and sinking, here's a

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>>9422531
>>9422531
>>9422531
>>9422531
>>9422531

Man, it's kinda fucked how much of a dopamine rush you feel with that first taste

>>9422402
How do I get my crazy perma drunk/withdrawing horniness once I'm sober?
It's like my libido went full normie.

>>9422405
You went through the toughest part. Now comes the hardest and longest.
Well, the first two weeks to few months are shit, it gets easier after a while.
You're experiencing brain fog and PAWS shits. Try not to think about the fact that life is shit and you were better drinking, it doesn't count. Wait until you think clearly to realise life is still shit, but drinking doesn't make it better.

>>9422523
If I drink any of that today I will end up buying more.

>>9420616
enjoy, anon

roasted pork belly is elder god tier, made the Ramsay version with fennel last week, fucking amazing

>>9420781
>That finishes in 5 days and makes enough booze for half a year.
wtf I want to be a moonshiner now

>>9421858
>You'll never be as good as him
>implying
just add a Knorr stockpot

>>9422498
Was Peterson especially manic in this particulate lecture series or is it just the way it was filmed?

pure kino either way

>>9422402
seriously? I also get the urge to masturbate more when hungover. My theory was that your "higher cognitive" processes are hindered by the hangover, making way for your more basic instincts to occupy yourself. I also notice craving savory/salty food when hungover, which fits with the theory that a hangover increases your basic instincts (eat and fuck).

>>9422426
>How the fuck did you do that?
I had alot of cocaine and witty comments to entertain her.