>>7355561 Admitting that 'meat substitutes' aren't and shouldn't try to imitate meat.
I don't eat meat anymore, but back when I did I have a vivid memory of a portobello mushroom sandwich I got at this one local restaurant being a million times better than a 'normal' burger. It wasn't a 'veggie burger'; it was a 'portobello mushroom sandwich'. Eating a 'fake beef' burger is usually going to disappoint you as you compare it to the standard. Although, black bean burger patties have come a long way - they can be pretty good.
I had pic related and it was honestly surprisingly good. The thing with this brand I like is that they focus on replicating the meat TEXTURE over flavor. The flavor wasnt as full as real meat. It served very well in spaghetti where the meat isnt what's dominating the flavor
coming from a vegan proper "meat subs" is gardein, shit is so fucking good. tofu obv is good (drain, marinate, freeze) but there's also tempeh (fermented soy cake) which is crazy fucking good (like chicken where it'll absorb any flavor you put into it) and it's higher per gram in protein than any steak. pic related is tempeh
honestly though i just eat legumes or grains and straight up veggies.
>>7355755 To further expound upon this idea; phytoestrogens do bind to estrogen receptors, however, they're much weaker than other xenoestrogens found in, say, plastics, or animal products. So, in a sense, you're better off consuming phytoestrogens than xenoestrogens originating from animal sources.
>>7355650 I tried experimenting with vegan cooking and I made a pasta sauce with this stuff, it was pretty good but the Boca version is better tbqh. It has a closer texture to real beef, better than the Beyond Beef stuff.
i would say stay away from any type of hot dog meat or veggie because when it comes down to it they're all pretty processed. i've never tried tofurky hot dogs though, those look very good and i'd like to hear people's thoughts on them. i'd say stay away from the yves ones though
the yves ground beef is decent. like other anon said it's good in dishes where it's not the main ingredient like pizza, pasta, sandwiches, etc
i've also made pretty decent sloppy joes with them. i just warm it up in a skillet with some grape seed oil and add some salt and tomato paste then served with bread
Transitioning from vegetarian to vegan. Tofu is good for asian dishes Tempeh is good for sandwiches Seitan appears to be the holy grail of meat replacements but I personally haven't tried it yet. Looks fun to make Quorn products are really delicious - try the mince in chili. 10/10. Their fried chicken pieces and burgers taste exactly like chicken. Fooled a few people with them. They had to check the label to make sure I wasn't fucking with them Linda mccartney regular sausages are good. Might need to try them a couple times to really like them. Best with a full english breakfast or covered with gravy and mashed potatoes If you want a whole foods diet, mushrooms are excellent for replacing meat. Oven bake portobello mushroom caps for a few mins on each side then throw in a pan to finish off. Top with cheese if desired. Assemble on buns with lettuce, tomato, anything you want on a burger really. 11/10
>>7356162 >Fooled a few people with them. The first time somebody served me those and said it wasn't real chicken, I thought they were trying to trick me into eating real meat and demanded to see the package too.
Textured Soy/Vegetable Protein can work, especially when using lots of fat in the recipe. Seitan/Fu only if it's processed to change the texture. Tempeh can work as well. Forget Tofu though, it's not meant to be a substitute, it is just a cheap protein source.
I use textured soy and seitan. To cook the soy first soak it in hot water, squeeze the water and sautee it with oil while pushing with the spatula to remove more water. Then when it's about, done turn off the heat and put soy sauce over and mix until the sauce covers the protein. Tastes really nice.
I don't think of them as substitutes, but when I don't use meat, my proteins are usually eggs, tofu, and beans of all sorts.
A lot of my vegfag acquaintances scoff at tofu. Well, fuck 'em, I love it. As a meat eater, though, I'll eat anything. I don't much care for the people who feel the need to restrict themselves so much for any reason other than valid medical reasons. And for the people with medical reasons, I sympathize.
I was travelling with this vegetarian girl 10 years ago and I just never ate meat the whole time. I found I felt a lot better physically, so I decided to stay vegetarian. I grew up hunting, fishing and gutting and butchering animals. Buying meat without killing it and preparing it myself just doesn't sit well with me either. There's not really a medical reason, but I think my reasons are valid enough. I don't really judge people at all for eating meat either. If I lived in the country, I might keep hunting still, but probably not at this point, because I feel like my diet suits my metabolism and keeps me pretty healthy, which is why I never went back to eating meat. Dealing with a carcass is also a lot of work I guess I did enough of.
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