Do you morons actually believe that when a product description states that the product is free of gluten then they are trying to claim that the product is healthy by default? Seriously? It's just there to advice those who can't eat gluten that this product is safe for them to eat. But not that the product is necessarily healthy.
>>7326394 Except that they can claim it is gluten free even if it's processed in a shared plant because none of their listed ingredients contain gluten. The FDA only even created a regulatory guideline for "gluten-free" in 2013.
>>7327644 >"Yes, I'd like the giant bar of chocolate please. No! Not that one! Jesus, are you trying to kill me? Give me the gluten free one!" Said the healthy person who can't eat gluten but enjoys the occasional treat and/or is loading up on calories before an intensive workout.
>>7327565 Really? Seems inefficient to be regulating each individual ingredient like that. In Australia you can't claim anything is free of anything unless there is absolutely no risk of cross contamination with that item.
>>7334169 >People with celiacs disease should understand how their disease works >People who want to avoid gluten for any reason should understand what gluten is >People should buy products simply because it has a huge sticker that says "gluten free", when that product would never have any gluten in it at all
>>7334197 >I literally want to murder people with an inherited disorder >I fucking love Adolf Hitler and the Nazis First they came for the Celiac's and I said nothing for I was not a celiac Then they came for the trans fats and I didn't give any fucks because honestly I don't eat yank trashfood and such Finally they came for the sushi and no one spoke because all the weebs were dead ;_;
>>7334261 My wife does have Celiac, the reaction from eating gluten is her own intestines trying to digest themselves which means that even a single grain of flour can be enough to trigger the reaction. Who needs to understand how the disease works is you, because you just seem to be either really stupid or ignorant by believing that things like cross contamination don't exist. As long as there is another product containing gluten being made in the same building, according to the law, you cannot put "Gluten free" on the package. Stop being such a bitch.
>>7334219 Stop and think for a moment (if that's possible). Imagine of you had to avoid a specific ingrediant that is in a lot of foods. Wouldn't it be convenient for you if more products were labeled to state clearly that that particular product is free of that ingredient? Don't you think it would make shopping a lot easier? Or do you think there is a website somewhere that lists every single item that contains gluten and people who need to avoid gluten should download that list and refer to it while strolling around the supermarket isles? Wouldn't you then be complaining about people spending forever int he supermarket?
Also look at it from the manufacturer's perspective. They know that a lot of people need to avoid gluten for health reasons. It's not just a matter of personal taste. These people simply cannot consume an item that contains gluten, and often if there's any doubt about whether a particular item contains gluten then the customer will simply not buy that item because it's not worth the risk. So if an item has no gluten it's in the manufacturer's best interest to label it as such to avoid alienating a whole group of potential buyers.
If you can eat gluten then you can either ignore the label because it doesn't apply to you or complain about it endlessly on the internet to display your autism to entire world.
>>7334289 >As long as there is another product containing gluten being made in the same building, according to the law, you cannot put "Gluten free" on the package Why would you assume that anything that wouldn't be made near anything with flour would have Gluten anywhere near it?
>you just seem to be either really stupid or ignorant by believing that things like cross contamination don't exist 1. You do have a reason to fear cross contamination, but so does literally everybody You're more likely to be struck by lightning than get food that has been contaminated 2. For example, Butterfinger, made by nestle, is almost certainly made in the same building that products that do have gluten in them
>>7334287 People should want to understand what gluten is
>>7334311 >Wouldn't it be convenient for you if more products were labeled to state clearly that that particular product is free of that ingredient FDA mandates that all products have an ingredient list
>Also look at it from the manufacturer's perspective People only include unnecesary labels to follow trends
>If you have a fucking allergy deal with it deal with it by understanding what triggers you and avoiding it Don't eat at a restaurant if you think you might get sick eating it Don't eat a food period if you think you might get sick eating it
>>7334322 >keep crying, bitch. it helps us all. everyone in this thread or who would respond to this thread knows what gluten is /ck/ is one of the slowest boards on 4cha
>>7334340 >FDA mandates that all products have an ingredient list Never bought fresh fruit and veggies? Your obesity is showing.
>People only include unnecesary labels to follow trends The internet is a relatively new trend. Youre using the internet. Trend follower.
>Don't eat a food period if you think you might get sick eating it Exactly why manufacturers label their gluten free products. When in doubt, leave it out. So if it's labeled then there's no doubt. You stupid or something?
>>7334411 It was the new cholesterol, trans fats, sodium, or carbs It wasn't unhealthy, but people with specific sensitive conditions (celiacs, people with hypertension, etc) got really sick from eating it, so the media distorted that to mean that food with low amounts or no amounts of the substances HAD to be healthier
>>7334434 Oh but they are It's not about the number of people who can get sick from consuming them, it's about people trying to capture public attention/get new customers who don't actually know any better with a new fad
>>7334441 >American education and mass media kek Like people in other countries can even TVs or books As if people in countries that could afford those things would ever care about what actually goes into their food, because they don't have access to a diverse source of food like Americans do
>>7334470 >Gluten-free is helpful for coeliacs I'm sure, but that's not why they are there Manufacturers don't put "part of a healthy breakfast" or "a great source of fiber" for people who actually need those things, they do it to capture the health food craze fad When people will shell out 50 bucks for a diet plan based on a rare fruit not grown locally, activated almonds, or any other bullshit thing, you better believe that there's an insanely high profit margin for using a little bit more ink
>>7334470 >Trans fat-free is helpful for anyone who doesn't want to fucking die So why aren't there more labels like this, especially because everyone is at risk for this, not just less than 1% of the population
>>7334501 >unlike gluten If it has wheat, barely, rye, or any products containing anything derived from those, it would be on the ingredients list as those things People with celiacs should understand what gluten is and where it comes from Not everything is going to have a "gluten free" label, what's more is that doctors shouldn't be telling them to "avoid gluten" without properly explaining what it is
>I was only refuting this point Okay, sure Also, transfats, like most things, are okay in the right amount
>>7334513 >Not everything is going to have a "gluten free" label No, but then they could just stick to things that do, and be okay. They probably just want to live like normal people and not inspect the entire ingredients list and have to worry about cross contamination in plants that also process gluten stuff. Labels are helpful.
>okay in the right amount
n-no. the fda is removing it from everything in the next couple years. they're quite convinced it's not okay.
>>7334530 >They probably just want to live like normal people and not inspect the entire ingredients list Normal people who are concerned about what they put into their body inspect the ingredients list What is honestly the difference between looking for a box that says gluten free and reading an ingredient list like, 10 seconds maybe?
>have to worry about cross contamination in plants Why do you keep saying this It's not a rule Food is actually allowed to have an insanely small amount of gluten in it, as long as it's not over 20 ppm (parts per million)
>they're quite convinced it's not okay only artificial trans fats
>>7334544 >>7334530 Not only that, you're probably more likely to find something that has a gluten free label on it that was produced in a plant that would have never had any flour near it at all than you would something that was produced in the same plant as stuff with gluten
>>7334411 Because around 1% of the population has a disorder where even trace amounts of it cause severe health problems. Even foods that, to an autistic self absorbed child, ,"should " have no gluten, actually do. This is because factory processed foods use a lot of adjuncts to control texture and consistency, and adjacent production lines result in cross contamination.
For some reason people have gotten used to the idea of nut allergy warnings on food, but gluten allergies result in a fuck ton of fedora tipping and HURR DO U EVEN KNOW WHAT GLUTEN IS
>>7335419 >I'm subsidizing these very same idiots' health care with my tax dollars Can you please explain what this means because I seriously don't know, and can you let me know what you're doing to protest against drinkers, smokers, obese people, sports people, and basically anyone who engages in activity that adds risk to personal injury. Oh and soldiers too. I'll be back in ten hours to read your reply so take your time. Thanks in advance.
>>7326589 >actually believe that when a product description states that the product is free of gluten then they are trying to claim that the product is healthy by default? Seriously?
This is absolutely true for many people. Years ago there was no packaging for food. You went to the market and the food was weighed or bagged for you but there were no brand names and no fancy packaging. As food production started being industrialized then you started getting brand names of products on cans, bags, boxes, etc. And with that came various advertising info, etc. During the 1970's the fat scare started, and food started being labeled "FAT FREE" or "LOW FAT" in order to appeal to those customers who wanted to eat less fat. And as time progressed the various other bogeymen of the day were also marked "free" on food: sugar-free, cholesterol-free, and so on. People got used to the fact that when food said it was "free" from something then that something must necissarily be bad. Most people have no clue what gluten is, so when they see a product marked "gluten free" they assume that gluten must be big and bad and scary just like fat, sugar, and cholesterol before it.
Of course, a person who actually has Celiac disease needs to know if a food contains gluten or not. But marketers have figured out that a lot of other people will buy products marked "gluten free", the same way they are attracted to "cholesterol free", etc.
>>7335453 >Can you please explain what this means because I seriously don't know
Candy bar = unhealthy, but some people will buy them simply because they mistakenly believe that "gluten free" means it's healthy. Those fatasses are a drain on the healthcare system, which my tax money pays for.
>>against drinkers, smokers, obese people.... those are all problems too but I'm assuming Anon didn't mention them because those vices are not relevant to the thread.
>>7336219 Nigger, it's just a bloody allergy warning, not a fucking "health" fad. It only became more easily noticeable, because there is higher demand for gluten free products and that's the case simply because it turns out celiac is way more common than people believed it to be. It was so rare in most cases it was just misdiagnosed as completely unrelated intestine disease, now people are aware something as celiac exists, so they can identify it more often, as simple as that. Fuckwit.
>>7336430 Gluten triggers zonulin release and there is now sufficient evidence that people can react negatively to gluten without meeting the diagnostic criteria for either celiac disease or IBS (fructan intolerance).
>>7336430 >marketers have figured out that marking ____ Free on foods results in higher sales. Obviously, captain fucking obvious. Because the people who get sick by eating certain things will not buy something if they suspect that it may contain an ingredient that could make them sick if they eat it. "When in doubt, leave it out". So when a company labels their product as being free of a particular ingredient then they open up a whole new market for themselves. Like when a product is labeled as 'halal' then the muslim market is open to them. More markets = more sales. I don't see how this is a bad thing, assuming that products are labeled correctly.
If you're stupid enough to buy a chocolate bar thinking it is healthy food simply because it is labeled as 'gluten free' then that's your problem.
>>7337995 What you're not getting is that this idiot is the same kind of self absorbed fedora that gets gigatriggered by halal and kosher labels. In his mind, anyone who doesn't think, eat, talk, walk, look, or have the exact same physiology as he does is either trolling or insane. Also, everyone should be raging drunk all the time to prove they're not a feminist christfag from the south (at least he's not the south)
>>7341421 Not him, but I'm kind of Jewish (by technicality) and the only jews you will ever meet who care about kosher are insufferable kikes of the highest order. Those kinds of Jews are why Hitler wanted to wipe us all out. They're like Taliban, but more annoying.
>>7341430 Don't worry it'll all be over soon when Trump becomes president and starts a nuclear war that will wipe out most of the human race and then we can repopulate the earth with human clones made of the same genetic composition withOUT that pesky gluten intolerance and we'll never have to see that annoying 'gluten free' label again!
Because the media told them so and then they posted it on their Facebook page and their equally stupid friends decided they needed to be “gluten free!” also and so on.
My hypochondriac germaphobe friend is typical of the type of modern American, who immediately claim they’ve got whatever is the latest meme “condition” the Mainstream Media and Big Pharmaceutical tells them they’ve got, (he says he’s got carpel tunnel, gluten intolerance, sleep apnea and I forgot what else) and of course he has to adopt whatever stupid dietary regimes, pills and treatments they’re shilling this week and insists that everybody ought to join him in his latest circular wild goose chase.
Meanwhile, I eat whatever the fuck I want while smoking a pack of cigarets a day and feel fine.
That's certainly part of it. But the packaging on food doesn't help things either. When foods are labeled as "______ Free" people tend to assume that whatever "_____" is, is a bad thing. For example, "fat free", "cholesterol free", etc. There's a long history of food being labeled as "free" from things that people tend to think of as bad. So when they see "gluten free" and have no idea what gluten is they automatically assume it's bad. It's the psychology of marketing.
>>7342749 >That's certainly part of it Show me a single news article that says gluten is unhealthy for regular people.
>when they see "gluten free" and have no idea what gluten is they automatically assume it's bad. Everyone has a mobile phone on them now so they could look it up while standing in the supermarket isle. There are no excuses for this level of stupidity and ignorance.
>>7342760 >I believe everything that's written on the packet! You should write a letter of complaint to the company responsible for this outrageous behaviour! Please post the draft here first so we can double check for spelling mistakes. You don't want to make a fool of yourself or anything.
Of course they COULD look it up. But the fact is that a lot of people don't.
Think about it: how many people post dumb questions here rather than researching it properly via google et. al.? Most people don't do research. They assume or they ask their equally ignorant friends. Get on youtube and check out some videos of reporters asking people about gluten, You'll hear all kinds of stuff (mainly from young women) like "oh, my roommate from Russia says it makes you fat, so I avoid it now!"
>>7342962 >"I used the fat blaster and lost over 9000 pounds in one week!!" >not a paid actor You obviously don't know how television works. Those people aren't even in a supermarket setting where you'd expect to find people shopping for gluten free products. Just random people in some park somewhere? Pleez.
>>7334165 >>7334197 Yeah, the whole fad is fucking retarded. It's always the most vapid of women latching on to that idea like avoiding wheat will do jack shit for you without having a rare genetic disease. >>7334327 The one guy I knew with it was fine. The entire problem is with idiots self-diagnosing shit for some imaginary benefit or just to feel like a special snowflake. Retards like that are the reason the diet industry makes so much bank exploiting ignorance and laziness. >>7334441 Give it another 50 years and your basic Murrican education will amount to 'fuck critical thinking and obey authority because we said so'. I saw a modern homework assignment for elementary kids last year and it blew my mind how much worse it got since Common Cuck was introducted. They're not even trying to hide their agenda of brainwashing the next generation to not think for themselves.
>all this gluten sperging >no mention of the fact that they split one candy bar into two for no good fucking reason Ruined the king size Snickers when they did that, shit has half the chocolate it used to.
>>7346460 >Is that a Simpsons thing? No. Extrusion is the process of shaping mashed goop by pushing it through a ring, which is how this type of stuff is made. He's pointing out that nothing but the final processing is of economic benefit to America, even though the label tries to make it sound better than that.
>I like to try new things to see how my body reacts so I'm gonna try cutting saturated fats out of my diet Good for you, anon. Let me know how it goes and might do it too. >I like to try new things to see how my body reacts so I'm gonna try cutting gluten out of my diet ZOMG ARE YOU RETARTED DAILY REMINDER THAT GLUTEN ISNT REEEEAL UNLESS YOUR 501 JEANS ARE DEFECTIVE OMG IM HAVING A HERNIA
>>7326305 In the UK they have to cover up the nutritional information on these and put on a sticker with their own. I always assumed this was because American standards allowed them to leave off certain information that's required over here, can anyone confirm this?
>>7349960 Lol. No. You guys just have a standardised way of presenting nutrition facts. In America, we don't care what the nutrition info for 100 grams of food is and we don't highlight in red anything that has a high amount of sugar/fat/etc. It's the same info, we just don't automatically give you the info for 100 g and then tell you what a healthy serving is like 30 g and have the info for that next to it because that's fucking pointless. They give you the info for the serving size like 1/6 or whatever and sometimes the info for the whole thing if it's within the realm of possibility that someone will eat it in one go.
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