Not to detract from the thread but are you referring to "rabbit" vegans as in those who eat mostly raw vegetables, or "rabid" vegans who are overzealous with their lifestyle? >inb4 What's the difference?
Either way, veganism is thankfully becoming trendy. Bad news is that with that trend most people treat it as the new "get thin quick" scheme.
>>7298776 My vegetables are very filling and tasty with butter and bacon fat. If you're vegan, olive oil works, too. Cooking and seasoning vegetables well, making sure to use fats transforms dull food into excellent meals.
>>7298747 It makes me chuckle when I see a fat vegan that I know must be constantly eating bread and nuts. I can get the hate for vegans as well, I got joined to a Facebook group so I could look up some recipes and ask for some advice, but by god how some of these fucking people love their circlejerks and no-true-Scotsman arguments.
>have female friend who went vegan >a year later she gets diagnosed with osteo because she wasnt getting enough calcium, then drops being vegan >have another female friend who goes vegan >ask what she does for calcium >she gives this whole list of shit that has calcium
>>7299506 This. Carnivore,Omnivore, Pescetarian and Vegan tell you about a person's diet, not about what you would consider to be sentient or alive.
For example I don't give a shit about insects and will happily eat insect products, but my housemate does and so will, but we're both classified as vegans since we both do not consume anything from the animal kingdom.
>>7299686 That's why you have to supplement that shit with calcium, if you go vegan without properly planning out your diet and then tracking your health via a health care advisor (GP, nutritionist or whatever) you are on a slow painful road to hurting yourself.
What the fuck does it matter if whatever you want to eat was under control of a conciousness or not, when the stuff is ultimately made out of all the same ingredients in different combinations like everything else in this universe.
t: trying vegan after watching cowspiracy and latest JRE
>>7299434 Its an argument for hard core hipster vegans. I had a friend who could allow himself to eat animal products if they were just going to go to waste anyway, thus nullifying his actual cause for its death or discomfort.
i am 100% in support of the vegan/vegitarian concept of dont eat something with a face. The road is littered with very unhealthy vegans who had to start eating meat or die. Be smart, and at least eat eggs regularly please. There are plenty of places to get eggs from happy healthy chickens. pic related
Meat, vegetables... it's all the same shit to me. I can make something taste absolutely fantastic, and I know it tastes fantastic, but I also have a numb sense of taste gratification if that makes any sense. Could be the tastiest thing I've ever ate in the world and it would still only give me a monotonous feeling of satisfaction. So instead I just try and eat healthy. Meat for two or three meals a week, and vegetables for the rest.
>>7299925 >I don't understand why we can't breed and use animals as long as we don't torture them Because 1. that phyisically cannot happen. It's simply impossible to make sure every stablishment ever treats animals properly when even the so called free-range barely do so, and 2. it's still wrong to breed someone just to exploit them (can I have a kid just to enslave them?)
>we'd have to hunt the same number of animals even if people weren't eating them We have to hunt nothing. Animals on the wild, for a big part, are carnivores. We are not.
>>7300559 >who had to start eating meat or die. Are you implying that you die if you don't eat meat? Are you fucking retarded?
>>7300941 This is not true at all. God damn why do people keep purpoting as stereotype just to fuck with us. Are you a vegan? No? Then how do you know this? Did you conclude this or did someone literally tell you this? And if they did, at, best, this is anecdotal evidence. Fuck you.
>>7301007 >luckily some of us live in civilized countries where we don't torture cattle How fucking demented are you? What country is this? It doesn't exist. Do you believe everything they tell you on TV? >there's really no question about it. What do you think will happen if we let nature sort itself? Not to mention, we aren't, by any means, helping nature for ecological reasons, when animal farming is the #1 REASON why the enviorment is fucked.
>>7301063 There wouldn't be much fighting since we've pushed so much of carnivores out and balanced herbivores at a level where they aren't causing problems for us humans but still plentiful enough for us to hunt for food
Not hunting and maintaining our infrastructure are two things that are impossible together
>>7301069 Wrong. Chimpanzees kill each other all the time for the most inane bullshit. Sometimes males from one troop will go into another troops territory just to kill a few before leaving. Other times they kill a member of their own troop for little reason.
And Lions will snap the backs of other predators just so they don't have competition.
Wild pack animals that have an alpha male? When he is disposed the new alpha will kill any young that are not his. This has nothing to do with food whatsoever
>>7301011 >Are you implying that you die if you don't eat meat? Are you fucking retarded? 100% of people who eat vegan will die within 8 months without supplementation. You will see vegans eating all kinds of crazy shit to avoid dying due to nutrient deficiency. My personal favorite is "nutritional yeast". These assholes grow yeast in vats of molasses then dry it out into flakes. Fun fact, there is more MSG in nutritional yeast than two boxes of moo goo gai pan take out. But keep on being 'healthy'.
40% of humans lack the enzymes nessicary to convery the omega 3s in flax/chia into usable EPA and DHA. They are forced to find fishless fish oil. B12 is the one that fucks up the most vegans. a simple egg will solve the problem, but these assholes end up needing to take a shot to get it, because its oral bioavailability is basically zero in supplement form. Nerve damage and dementia are the two most common vegan problems seen here.
If your diet can literally kill you within 8 months, then maybe your "diet" isnt actually a diet at all, but a suicide plan?
>>7300936 >are they happy because they get to climb Mt.TwoByFour? There is literally nothing in the world that makes a chicken happier than roosting. They also sleep on Mt2x4 by choice. I provide stumps, 2x4 contructions and even a dowel swing for my birds. go look up "chicken swing" on youtube and tell me that they arent McLoving that
>>7301065 >Whole grain bread is satisfying and doesn't make you fat even if you eat it multiple times every day. I
please do me a favor and go into your kitchen and look at your 'healthy' whole wheat bread and tell me what the third ingredient is. "High Fructose Corn Syrup". Bet you didnt realize that, didja? You know why they dump sugar by the bucketful into whole wheat bread? Maybe you dont know as much about this 'fat free eat all you want' sugar delivery device.
>>7302003 i eat cheese pretty much every day and i'm not overweight, i'm closer to being underweight than over. if cutting out entire food groups make your diet more balanced, that's a personal issue and not an issue with the food itself.
>>7303685 Vegetarianism is so much more practical, doesn't cause health problems, social problems, etc. Compassion is fine, and makes sense, but vegans take it too far. Bees don't have the capacity to give a shit. Mammals, on the other hand, have legitimate emotions, friends and personalities.
>parents raised me as vegetarian straight from birth, got most of my protein/etc from dairy, meat substitutes, beans, all those >tried all sorts of meaty dishes once i moved out but can only really stomach a few things in really small portions >my body suddenly started hating eggs and sometimes can't handle cheese so now i have to go semi-vegan it's weird, i can drink milk and eat yoghurt just fine, and i can eat small amounts of cheese without feeling like i'm gonna die. but the second i hit eggs that's it. i remember eating some cheesy pasta bake at my aunty's a few months ago and that shit knocked me out too.
at least i still have a bunch of options when it comes to protein.
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