I don't give a fuck that you're vegan, do what you want in life. But that being said, why do you think that anyone else cares you're a vegan? You don't see me making a thread asking who's proud to eat meat.
>>7258983 I don't wanna eat the kitties I don't wanna eat the kitty products So I don't My close friends know
I special order stuff off menus and look the waiter straight in the eye and use brisk and masculine hand gestures as I say: ".....no eggs. no cheese. no meat, just vegetables and.." and the waiter looks at me dead in the eye like we have a secret pact and repeats with his own masculine hand gestures: ".....no eggs. no cheese. no meat, just vegetables and.."
and he knows and I know and maybe if they're close the people I'm with know, but no one can prove that in fact I'm vegan... for alls they know it might be part of my religion
I live in southern california so everyone is veggie oriented but man it's so embarrasing to say "IS THIS VEGAN" or "THATS THE VEGAN ONE RIGHT"
.....fuck all you memes for fucking my shit up it's just a fucking way of eating fuck
also I attend special free functions with the rich like 10 times out of the year and if the restaraunt is one at which I'd never be able to afford, (100$+ per person, I'll eat meat or eggs or dairy if it looks good, but it's very very rare and the next day I'm constipated. (the portions are usually cocktail sized so I feel gluttony is key and killing an animal for personal pleasure is in fact gluttony-one of the 7 deadly sins may I add)
I do beleive in moderation, however my modertation is actually moderate unlike most 6.6
>>7259823 in fact, if everyone only ate animal products for ONE meal 10 times a year at most, I'd be very ok with the world. animal products should be an absolute special occasion thing. Animal products should cost 100$ per person per meal. then people would eat more responsibly.
also damnit mexicans stop using lard in all your shit fuck
We're actually at the mercy of the whims of the new janitor right now.
He got a dozen people banned for telling a joey spammer to fuck of just yesterday, when it's the same after school circle jerk as joey, who the mods finally realized was cancer and now delete, after /ck/ complained and reported those threads.
The worst part was that the threads where for not making quality posts, when everyone has to look at jack's disgusting face and disgusting food, reposted incessantly, every time they come to /ck/.
yeah I know a vegan (the only other I know irl) and she's a fucking uptight bitch who was like OMG U TOO U CAN ONLY DRINK THESE BEERS AND THESE WINES N BLA BLA BLA LECTURES go fuck urself bitch my feelings relate to my diet yes my health relates to my diet yes but this fucking better than thou bs makes u worse than the meateaters I hateeeeeee aghhhhhh
>>7259831 Well, the case is that in the past people had to fucking HUNT their meals, faggot(you must be one, I assume). Also, I'm Mexican, and where I lived we used to feed, and take care of our own game, so we could later eat them. >Stay mad, veggie.
>>7259850 duh dude that's why I'm pro meat if you have the balls to go hunt kill and etc
also fuck you mexican food is the bomb but fuck dude that shit hurts my arteries with all that lard
>>my bf is mexican >>started living at his house >>gained 40 lbs in a year >>wtf I don't eat the kitties >>found out everything has lard and is spicy
STOP PUTTING LARD IN EVERYTHING U FREAKS also stop making delicious gawd
also for the record if I lived in the forest I would have different feels for the stuff I eat. If I had chickens I could care for myself, and knew they weren't being abused I would happily eat their eggs If my cows or goats made milk and had extra I would happily steal a little for my coffee If I had to, I would kill and eat meat, but would prefer not to-however, if my cow was injured to the point of death would be better I would happilly monch that hide
Also fuck you mexicans with ur aztec bs cocoa and quinoa fuck u for eating what I eat
Considering doing a vegetarian with dairy diet for health reasons (heart disease, high blood pressure, and diabetes are extremely prominent in my family).
The problem is every meal I cook incorperates ground beef or fish and I'm having a hard time finding decent meatless meals that aren't "just throw 50 kinds of veggies in water/on a plate, add grain to the side".
>>7259868 Yeah, I don't like my food too spicy. Anyways, I think that it's not "good" to just stop eating meat. I mean, in a situation where you have to eat meat, you're stomach will not resist it because it's become literally useless. What about your teeth ? Why do you think we have molars ?
>mfw huevos a la mexicana with little chiles and a good coffee in the morning are heaven~
pad thai (frozen veggies+rice sticks+sauce+possible peanuts n extras LIKE TOFU) fried rice (see above, add tofu) tempeh sammies quinoa bowls of all types
there's lots but fuck whats wrong with buying a few bags of frozen vegghies and chucking them into a meal? you NEED to add nutritional yeast (b12 assist) I personally want sick abs so I add as much protein as possible to every meal...
just follow grains(carbs)+veggies+protein(tofu, seitan, tempeh, others)+sauce for every meal and you'll be healthier than eating FUCKING GROUND BEEF R U SICK IN THE HEAD WTF IF UR GONNA EAT MEAT AT LEAST EAT SOMETHING DELICIOUS LIKE FUCKING BUFFALO OR FUCKING LAMB FUCK
>>7259868 Dumb ass you really goofed. How the fuck do you not notice FORTY pounds as you gain it. It's really easy to source good meat and dairy if you put in a tiny bit of effort and money. There's loads of local farms you could contact and visit if you're willing to pay for a front loaded cost. Buy half or quarter of a cow from a farm that will happily have you visit before hand or order a delivery of eggs the same way. You just have to deal with larger upfront costs and storage.
I bought half a lamb for my mom for Christmas. Had it delivered and then had a local butcher cut it into parts that my mom could cook. Butcher only charged me 20 bucks for her time. She doesn't get people bringing her things to divide often because people DON'T THINK TO ORDER LOCAL MEAT IN BULK. The farm this little baby sheep came from is adorable and the animals all get ample pasture time with comfy living space. Took a Google search and a couple of phone conversations to get it all set up.
Get my eggs delivered biweekly from a farm 20 miles south of chicago suburbs I live in and my chicken from the same place only slightly more expensive per pound than the local grocery store (not including shipping sadly).
All it takes is a little research and effort to get locally sourced animal products for reasonable prices and a clean conscience. Still get yogurt and milk from the store.
On another note, almond farms are a leading cause of drought and other plant farms fuck up ecosystems and lead to the decimation of species. No matter what you eat you're fucking something up.
>>7259871 Kek Just one block away from where I live, there's a "tacos car" or however it's translated that sell really good tacos~ >go buy some tacos de lengua, and burritos >there's parent buying a burrito... >a burrito without meat, just rice and beans >it was for her vegan daughter
Also, BURRITOS ARE NOT A TYPICAL MEXICAN FOOD, GODDAMIT
>>7259905 I personally don't believe in any of that meat bs
my family is from argentina, we are known for our amazing beef (back then... now we've sold out... ergh>>/pol) I had been vegetarian for 10+years and I ate a huge amount of meat (for a vegetarian) again, I got constipated and broke out but that's about it
I think rock soup would be fine if you were in a syrian situation but I would think that based on our teeth we would eat things we can kill with our own hands or scavenge. eg: you can eat fish raw, you can catch it, eat it etc with your bare hands. can't kill a cow but if you happened upon a dying one, you could get the pieces that are salvageable and digest them same with chickies etc
in other words, meats should be a luxury, vegetables and grains a norm
however, I recently read an article describing our mental growth as a species grew because meat proteins = less eating time =more productivity but also if that's valid, then tofu and meat alternatives=more brain capacity because less impact earth wise
so the debate is up in the air, but basically if you wanna be healthy just FUCKING BE HEALTHY U KEK eat meat rarely. we just often forget what rarely means>>>1 per month is more than rarely
rarely should be the equal amount of times you would want to not eat at all for an entire day per year
>>7259923 oh yeah fuck almond farms kek yeah the thing is (here comes >>/x) humans are fucking horrible no matter what and I'm pretty sure we're not supposed to live here (iodine) but whatever the vegan "IDEA" is to cause less impact You'll enjoy this:
>>be me >>go to SPROUT'S FARMERS MARKET >>look at expensive ORGANIC veggies because vegan n shit >>would rather pay 1$ extra per fucking sad mexican imported cucumber, red bell pepper, yellow bell pepper, onion and green belle pepper (I WANT FAJITAS DAMNIT) >>go home >>cucking >>wtf is this sticker >>"ORGANIC: BL ABL ABLA US OFFICIAL ORGANIC BS ALSO WE COAT THIS HSIT IN ORGANIC FOOD GRADE BEESWAX >>mfw veggies arent vegan >>I ate these and contemplated how much it would cost me to buy a house that has a small amount of land to plant veggies without beeswax.... only gotta make like 30$ an hour in california and it's mine....
>>7259933 Actually, it was thanks to our ancestors( the really old ones~) that we could developed our brains so quickly. How? Proteins, high proportions of it, which as you said it could give them plenty of energy. I have a cousin that never liked meat, he would a chicken soup without chicken, and things like that. Also, avoid milk, eggs, most animal products. He's the only person I know to be "partly" vegan for a really long time.
>>7259923 also I would prefer not to kill creatures just to have a good meal, but if it's going to happen I want the damn furry friend to have a good life.. also the 40 lbs crept up through boobs and muscle (cuz muh gains) and I was like weird, I'm not as limber but also my pants still fit so....
needless to say vegans have perkier tits, if you eat too much meat your tits flop around ^not facts, just facts tho
check out our soccer players though, good meat is good meat if you wanna be messi
however, again, I live in california and californians should eat what california gets>>>>japan diet
>>7259933 Your logic is all over the place. I'm a geologist who often takes several month trips to south America including Argentina (them sweet sweet rare metals necessary for computers=big bucks despite China recession) and I still can't make sense of your shit.
If you're active physically and require muscles then the protein from animals is amazing. You'd have to eat a much larger amount of plants to get the same amount of macro nutrients.
Humans have the ability to kill large animals like cows goats sheep lamas by using ambush tactics easily learned off of other large predators like cougars and jaguars. Lions provide a perfect example to copy. Some wait in hiding while others corral the prey toward them. Stone spears and other weapons are common in archaeology. We don't eat the stomach contents of the animals we kill like other large predators do, so we must also consume plants.
Basically, your activity level dictates your dietary needs. More active=more animal products to lower the sheer amount of foods you need to eat for maximum benefit.
>>7259961 yeah, I mean the facts are partly vegan is the way to be. our ancestors didn't shitpost on 4chan all day though so we have to substract 4chan time = maybe 3-5 animal product days a year kek
seriously though if you wanna be healthy, really don't eat animal products... except when you're dyin for one or you get one for free of actual quality (ur friend paying for ur mcnuggets doesn't count)
>>7259980 I don't have friends, but...Fck I know how to cook, and know many dishes that use only veggies ( because Mexican). Since I started college, I used meat to cook once a week, but after I began to go to gym it was really difficult to get the necessary proteins with only veggies. So I prepared meat more often ( mostly chicken, and turkey and sometimes red meat)
I'm a bagina who lifts weights and I could never go vegan. My sister was vegan before I got her to lift weights with me and now she eats more meat than I do.
Foundation of diet should always be vegetables with fruit and animal products making up the rest. Grains like bread pasta and rice are garbage calories for the uninformed. I still love them though despite how they're just calories with zero nutrition (processed grain = sugar as far as your body is concerned). They just taste so good. Learn to cook vegetables like beans peas and fiber heavy grains mixed with other veggies to make a stable foundation for a good diet with animal products as needed based on activity levels.
>>7259985 I'm against the idea of men vs women etc but yeah I agree. the female idea is more relayed to a veganism than the male idea in society- that being said, there's vegan weightlifters etc BUT if you're a lazy fuck and you don't exercise no matter what you eat you're shitty kekekkeke
I assure you whatever you eat just do some lifts and you'll be better than everyone that don't
I hate vegan shitholes but I there's shitty people in every catagory so.... mostly vegans's the way to be man. just save up for those prze meats
>>7259997 Just go to a Mexican market early in the morning to get your fresh, cheap veggies :3 I also live in California ( currently in southern Cal visiting my family) I study in Northern Cal, and veggies are expensive af :(
>>7260021 thats how I do boo sucks that north is more expensive tho, that's where all the farms are at that sucks
so get this >>be me at market >>OOO AVOCADOZ COOL >>1.30$ EACH >>wtf I thought socal was made of avocados >>check label >>mexico WTF my friends with houses litterally throw them out because too many after research because avocado trauma: apparently cali makes money by selling avocados to shitstates and we buy the mexico ones because that's how they make money
>>7260029 Tempeh sounds expensive >sacrifice a virgin Cannot kill myself yet >cum Have you tasted you're own semen ?.? I'm not in hard mode yet, but I appreciate the tips, I don't want to fart every two steps sempai
In northern cal I found avocados 2 dollars each one! Right know we're eating avocados almost everyday because a neighbor has an avocado tree. He gave us 15 avocados for 5 bucks :3 >mfw spicy guacamole in my tacos *~*
>>7260022 Nope. I'm not eating the massive amount of veggies and I hate the texture of legumes outside of peas. I put in the effort to get my meat and eggs locally sourced when I'm in town from places that treat their animals nicely and let me visit whenever I want. Buying shitty tasting/textured heavily processed veg products for more than I want to pay is not my style. I made my own satin for a while and that stuff is shit. Got bored and disgusted by it and the store varieties are even worse. Agricultural practices are also shitty for the environment and lead to droughts like in California.
I'm happy getting my meat in bulk from local farms and my eggs and chicken delivered for just a few dollars more than grocery prices.
When I'm not in the states because of work my meat is safely kept in my freezer and I'll be eating local food on the job sight of the dig or the more adventurous locating of valuable minerals. I can't control my food sources then and I need many many calories after hours of hiking to get to and from my work place.
If you're active and want to maintain your health and muscle mass animal products are necessary.
It's possible to eat meat with a clear conscience.
>>7260039 lol undue suffering >>syrians dying of starvation >>"I WANT CHICKIES THO" just eat ur lentils fuck ppl are litterally dying of hunger
biologically incapable: ok, I get your feels for this let's try this (all the things I mention have happened to me) mind you I'm from argentina, all we do biologically is meat: >>I get lightheaded because foods! eat slow, more times a day, with protein >>but my schedules and protein means I eat less times=more productivity >>you're actually not doing anything actually important call me when you're saving lives or creating amazing art >>not enough gains learn about nutrition: tempeh, seitan nuts etc >>energy damn gurl I said learn about nutrition it's the future there's plenty of shit out there inscluding nurtitional yeast etc
>>I "could never go vegan" because I would have to subject myself to undue suffering for little reason other than the piece-of-mind for others. uhhh ego check think about the world not about what flavors you want to monch. If you care that much about yourself then donate the mount of $$ you save by going vegan to a foodbank for people that can't afford to suffer for little reason other than the piece of mind of others and that will make your ego sleep well at night. DID I MENTION PEOPLE IN SYRIA ARE EATING BOILED GRASS
>>7260067 And there are people eating corpses by drinking their local water supply that just happens to be the place where people leave corpses. There's children being raped in central Africa in the name of peace keeping. There's children who die from curable diseases because of their parents beliefs on vaccines or their faith in their religion. There are people literally being tortured right now because they don't share the exact specific variety of religion that their captures have (afghan vs Palestine for example).
You can't guilt people with logic like that. You just come off as ignorant while trying to lecture others.
>>7260077 Where is all that degeneracy from? Indians can't even POO IN LOO because they're afraid of a witch stealing their souls. They throw corpses in a river and bath on it. And you expect us to feel sorry for them? NOT
>please don't eat cum without getting paid for it or being in a loving relationship unless you're a sick fuck and then I applaud you
the thing about hard mode is that we're humans and it's bs to be in hard mode just take steps to be better try everytime to not eat animal products, make choices when grocery shopping and live a fulfilled life. try thinking of others, some people/creatures don't have the choices you have. Your choices may make future choices for others. get a few chickens, eat their eggs. FInd out which items are gluttony and if you love them, enjoy them as gluttony. ex: I'm sad I want gluttony vs my mother died all hope is dead feed me that steak plz I want to feel anything besides this or I'm bored I want sour cream and onion chips vs I'm in a natural disaster and all there is is tuna or I eat well as much as possible today my company's once a year holiday party is taking us to a steakhouse that I could never afford
>>7260082 Most people are not in a stable enough environment to even consider such things. Working unreasonable hours or living with emotionally unstable people will tax someone and they won't think of these things. They may have never been taught to think of their diet and just eat food that they've enjoyed their entire lives. There's loads of reasons to eat dirty and unhealthy food that happens to be vegetarian or vegan but is actually full of shitty nutrient devoid calories.
You're avoiding the many variables that real people face every day and in doing so making yourself out to be morally superior.
I have to get up in 7 hours to lift weights and cook my locally sourced eggs with kale that I picked from my yard after the first winter freeze a month back. I'm lucky to have such a stable that I was able to make such choices. I won't blame other people for viewing steaks as an emotional high point of their day or KFC as a luxury to carry them through another shitty day. I'm no better than they are. I'm just in a position where I've been able to make different choices.
all in all, the lesson learned here is go vegan until your true breaking point, eat some animals, get constipated, find out it wasn't the greatest idea but you're not opposed to it, go back to vegan, eat snimals once in a very slim while, work out, and shitpost daily, help people in need and realize if you eat meat you're gonna eat insects in the next 10-20 years
>>7260089 That's the environment they were raised in. If you were born in their position you'd see nothing wrong with it.
You're acting self centered and small minded all as a dick stroking masturbatory act.
Fuck this place. I've spent enough time in rural south America to not be such a fuck head. Go back far enough in your own ancestry and you'll find people who were just as fucked. Europeans becoming alcoholics because they finally figured out drinking their own shit water was bad etc etc. The ignorance is actually making me a bit mad.
>>7260096 I like to exercise, the feeling after running, or workout is just blissful. Yet I have a condition that retains me from doing all that, after a certain time. My skin is too sensible and can hurt really easy, it's fucking painful, but I've been able to run up to one hour nonstop (My greatest achievement til now) Right now I'm with my parents, so I haven't exercised and gained some weight ;-; I'm 18 (19 in February) sempai welp
>>7260107 Where do you think I come from? The city?
I'm not an entitle cvck to say: oh look at them, poor people, let them into our countries and give them all they need. So they fuck everything up Or say: eww look at those nasty people, don't touch me.
>>7260098 I totally agree with this. However...... becasus ethis is /ck:
I live in my bf's ROOM in his ma's house I don't cook there because she scares me/can't prove I'm living here I make minimum wage because I'm lazy I work 10-15 hours a week I don't own a car I have to leave the house every day from 9-6 when bf leaves (he just got a job!) so his ma doesn't suspect And there's much on other fronts
with that in mind, I excersize, read, create, do a bunch of shit every day and still manage to eat vegan every day and remain very healthy (I don't get sick, at most a 1 day cold) and am full of energy
I'm basically a homeless person with a warm place to sleep and shitpost and I'm vegan
If you want to, you can do it. Honestly, if you have access to a kitchen even once or twice a week you're just making excuses. I visit a friend that has a double burner and 1 pan twice a week and cook for the entire week there. I make grains, veggies and tofu and reheat it (Ihate the microwave, but do as I must) to make food every day.
I'm not morally superior.
I do try though, against all odds, and anyone with an actual kitchen (which I litterally dream of nightly!) can't say shit. Just bake some veggies and reheat them all week long.
I wish I had a garden or could afford locally sourced eggs. I live in the city. Taco bell I hate, but eat there maybe once a week because 2-3$ =vegan burrito with enough sodium and chemicals to fill you up for a day
I'm an asshole with a doctorate running a volunteer ranger station in the winter. The only respite is unlimited mobile data and great reception. I don't know what the fuck people did here before the 21st century.
>>7260112 silly baby you're still young you'll get laid eventually.
If you have a condition, ask doctors and nutritionists for dietary advice. Also if you need to excersize in a small space try body weight conditioning, you can get sick gains and gain ladies with those gains eventually!
Focus on feeling good: be sure to incorporate these into ur daily life: -excersize -work or education -create (art, music, writing whatever) -hobby -fun (vidja? shitposting?) -family -religion, spiritual, //x, or helping others (moral/spiritual gains)
and also if you haven't tasted your own cum you crazy boo try it and see if it changes after eating more/less meat or cookies or whatever
>>7260121 No you dumb shit their lives have no impact on your own and their sorry situation is not their fault either. That's the entire point. You didn't choose to be born in your situation and neither did they but you can both do what you believe would be best to create a better situation for yourself and those you care about.
You going vegan won't help people who see meat as a luxury good and want something nice to eat when large corporations will do all they can to provide animal products for as cheap as possible to maximize their own profits (as is natural in a capitalistic society ain't nothing wrong with working the system ya dig).
If going vegan seems like the best choice for you that's fine, but understand that other options exist. That their choices may be just as moral in their perspective as being vegan is in yours. That there are vegans that eat horribly and pay no attention to their own or the environments health. That there are choices outside of being vegan that might be just as valid like supporting small farms that raise their animals ethically.
This was never a black or white/right or wrong issue.
I mean. I don't pretend that the poultry I eat wants to die. Yet I doubt they know the difference. I'm relatively certain that they're incapable of suffering when killed properly. Fish are even lower. What you're injecting into it is your personal feelings. The fish doesn't have the neural capacity to feel as you do. This is 100% proven.
I mean, it barely has a discernible brain beyond that of any insect.
Veganism is far more about their personal ideals than the practicality of it, and that's what bothers me.
I no longer eat red meat because I can't stand the idea of killing another mammal.They too easily remind me of my dogs, and I psychologically can't handle it. At my core the rest can fuck themselves. I don't have sympathy for something that has zero capability to feel the way I do.
>>7260136 Fell asleep If you still there, thanks for the hopes up, I really needed it. >exercise Starting again ( I wanna make some type of timeline with pics of my progress, similar to the ones posted on /fit/ ) > work or education Currently in Uni, taking an engineering career >create I really want to draw something, but still don't know what. >hobby Not enough time for a hobby, but I have a bamboo, if it counts. >fun I don't like vydia at all, I'll with /pol/ and cooking >Family Yess, I think family is really important for mental health. Also, spend time with them now that I can. >religion Recently I've been growing an interest for religion. I have to get rid off some degeneracy:3
It'll be difficult to taste my semen after cumming, I've tried (to taste it) but lost interest on the idea after relieving stress.
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