So the yaya cosplay fabric is starting to show up in Joann stores. Discuss quality/price/etc
Fabric stores general I guess
My store started getting good fur last year. It's pretty expensive though so most people still just buy the pubes-on-burlap kind.
Unfortunately the good quality stuff still only comes in hideous colors and franken-animal prints.
If you've got a large-ish fabric district in your area, you can usually find some good faux-fur with a bit of digging. I've had no problems getting quality furs from most places I've gone.
Some of the better quality fake furs go by the names Luxury Shag, Seal, Beaver, or Fox. Most of these can be found online if you can wait for them to be shipped to you.
It's really mediocre so far. We got in about 7 bolts of fabric so far and according to the distribution chart, each store really will only get one of each type/color.
The brocades are extremely brocade-cheap and gaudy. I can't imagine what they can be used for unless you want to cosplay Yaya Han. The pleathers are nicer but have very specific textures/looks, so again, tough sell for the average costume.
The fabrics are supposed to come from February 7th through 27th for the stores and the first sale for them will happen around March 13th at 25% off. There will be advertisements for the Cosplay Fabrics line then as well.
The people on my FB feed, whom I trust as the majority of them have 10 years or more of sewing under their belt, cast their verdict as it's overpriced for what it is. You'll get better selection and better price from Spandex House.
Jury is out if coupons will work on it. Some say no, some say yes, some say it will be on perpetual "sale" so coupons don't work often.
Only babby cosplayers who know no better will fall for it. Which I have seen a couple of on my feed.
loling because you can order 4-way metallic blue spandex at multiple stores for like $10 a yard. now i kinda want to go into my local store just to laugh at the prices of this stuff.
I worked there for an all of like 4 days.
Was hired for a keyholder position, and management was such a clusterfuck that I never came back. No way in fuck was I going to deal with that shit.
Idk, I live in a city where the only place you can buy non-quilting cotton is the lone Joanns and Wal-Mart. I'm thankful that I don't have to put in an order to Spandex House when all I need is a quarter yard of metallic spandex for some applique. Yes it is kind of ridiculously expensive, and fuck Yaya, but I'll deal with that for the ease of being able to pop in and get some.
Also, I'm fucking sick of the people who are complaining that coupons won't work on Yaya's fabric because they don't also work on Yaya's/McCall's patterns. Coupons don't work on patterns period because they are literally always "on sale" 40% off.
The only interesting thing so far has been the Ultrapreme. Everything else seems like cheaper versions of performance fabric or brocade with a higher price. The carbon fiber fabric confuses me though and the herringbone twill fabric feels like regular twill. Not sure who would pay $40/yd + sales tax for the military pleathers. They look cool, but that price is hard to swallow for the casual consumer.
Got a report in from a friend who's a veteran cosplayers and Joann store manager
So we got a few of the cosplay fabrics at my store this week! Just a few since they came way early, but I just have to say I have ordered 4-way stretch vinyl from MANY different online stores (Spandex House, Spandex World, eBay, MJ Trends, SY Fabrics...)
>And I'm just sayin' NONE of it compares to what is in the cosplay collection... I stretched that shit in my hands and I am extremely impressed with the quality. I think I could definitely make a bodysuit out of that and have ZERO worries with it cracking, splitting, or otherwise dying. It is thin but durable and almost feels like rubber it is SO COOL. The "neopreme" is the very similar but thicker and heavier duty (boot covers maybe?) I don't see what the fuss is over the $19.99 price tag, I have paid $15 PLUS SHIPPING for that stuff online and it's not as nice. *shrug*
>I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE REST OF THIS COLLECTION TO COME IN.
Also a review from GSTQs personal account
>Ok, update. Bought corset fabric, ultrapreme, and the stretch pleather this evening. They all feel great as Jo said. I'll be sewing them up this weekend so I can write a fully informed review.
>Price tags were a shocker initially, but some of this stuff actually IS weird specialty textile despite some recent internet comments I have seen. As someone that buys fabric on a weekly basis (and now that I have touched and seen these in person) the coupon prices are on par with similar products from spandex world/house and even competitive for some of the fabrics. Some of these are even less than some of my suppliers.
If you're planning to apply it like an applique, super glue is the only adhesive that will work. And I'd suggest this only if you're using a medium-thick grade latex and are applying it in small portions.
I've had to apply velcro to latex and haven't had a problem with this method so far.
ONLY if its in the warehouse. A lot of employees don't know this. I work at Joann and have them use their handhelds to see if its in the warehouse. If it's not then you ain't getting it in the time that you probably want it. And a special order takes us at least 2 weeks if in the warehouse 6 weeks if not.
You can use coupons. When I came into work today and saw we got the fabric, I scanned each one and applied our coupons that are out. The 50% and 40% worked. I used it on the Brocade, and then tried it on the most expensive one we got which was 39.99. Don't know what it was, probably the Ultrapreme. So use your coupons while you can cause these will go on sale for like 30% or something soon.
went to my local store and checked it out today....mine had a fuckton of he awful brocaes in like 5 colors, some of the metallic spadex, the 2 studded looking pleathers, carbon fiber, a flat black pleather, and a blue ultrapreme.
honestly the only one worth buying was the ultrapreme 4way stretch....i stretched the shit out of it and no lines or cracking, so it's pretty strong. the color my store had it in is like useless for catsuits or anything though....
what i thought was the most odd was that there wasn't just a nice plain gold or silver fabric among the bunch. also the carbon fiber fabric was pretty thin...i wasn't impressed with that at all.
forgot to mention, what they're marketing as "twill corset lining" is NOT fucking coutil, it's plain ass twill with a jacked up price. you're still better off ordering coutil online.
Shit, was that my store? Because the blue Ultrapreme is the only Ultrapreme we've gotten in. We haven't gotten any of the matte spandex in yet, either, only the metallic stuff.
There are a total of ~70 bolts in the collection, we've only gotten about 1/3 of it now.
This is the first time I'm hearing about Zelda fabric.
Is it just patterned quilt cotton or is it actually fabric to make the costumes out of? I've been killing to find the perfect fabric for Zelda's bodice.
>see people complaining about fabric going on sale
>when it's on sale you apparently can't use "coupons"
Jesus Christ you Americans are spoilt. Most other countries don't get coupons at all. We desperately wait for sales or order online and pay jumped up shipping. Cry some more.
>Proudly paying $20 a yard for super thin, super shiny spandex
>Being this ignorant of how overpriced it is compared to literally any other fabric store or website
Found Joann's target demographic right here
This, be glad you even have coupons you ungrateful bitches. Try living in Europe where even decent simple cotton will run at least $20 a meter. And don't even get me started on what any fabric more elaborate than that will cost
Point is that $20 to $40 a yard for fabric is not expensive at all. I get fabrics at local stores for that price all the time. Maybe it's not good quality but but it's completely affordable unless you're poor. For 3 yards that's $60 which is hardly anything. Also, with all the sales Joann has it's going to be pretty cheap.
Most of the stuff at Joann's isn't great quality anyway. I guess you're the idiot here if you think it is.
The reason the fabric is priced more than the other stuff at Joann's is because it has Yaya's name on it. They made it low quality because they know some dumb weebs are going to sucker into buying it since it's marketed as "cosplay" fabric with a famous asian cosplayer's name. It will sell regardless, and like I said They're going to make a bigger profit off of it than they would have if it was high quality. It's actually genius.
Even a 10-year-old could figure this out, anon.
>buying fabric by the meter
3-yards cut master race
But honestly, where do you live ? Here in France, even my local store's overpriced cotton twill is 10 bucks a meter, and it used to be 8. And then there's Paris and it's wonderful fabric district.
The thing is, most shit that has coupons in the US is actually substantially marked up above fair market value. Companies like Joann's do this to make extra cash off casual consumers and make more dedicated shoppers feel like they're getting a real deal by using coupons (which you get by subscribing to all their advertising).
It's like this. Imagine the average going price for a widget is $20. Everyone's selling widgets for about $20. Bob gets this great idea, he's going to sell those widgets for $40 but offer a 50% off coupon to people who subscribe to his newsletter. Those people who use the coupon see "wow I saved $20 on that widget, that's like a whole other widget!" and the few people who don't use the coupon, well maybe they don't know about all those other places selling widgets for $20.
Anyway, people bitch about not being able to use coupons because the whole pricing structure is based around coupon usage with these types of chains. The advertised prices aren't really the "real" going price of the item.
This. I don't get people being salty about "American coupons" because so many hobby and craft stores double the retail price for products. It's the same with Michaels, AC Moore, Joann's, etc. Practically all of their products are about double the normal retail price, and you have to use coupons to buy it at the normal price. But half of the time you can only use one coupon, so you only get one product at regular price and buy everything else super inflated. America isn't a magical land of discount coupons and super cheap fabric. It's frustrating for us but from a marketing standpoint it's pretty smart.
Oh, come off it anon. /cgl/ has a large college student demographic and few of them can drop $60 on fabric every other day unless their parents still pay for everything. And you're definitely overpaying—one of my local stores has nice cottons for $3 a yard.
Where do you live? I'm in Europe and the fabric market I went to this morning had shittons of fabrics for €3-5 per meter. Good stuff, too. And I'm nowhere near any big fashion district.
I live in NYC and laugh at anyone that would pay more than 15 bucks/yd for anything (and that's a rarity for something like faux fur). All the best places are holes-in-the-wall (NOT placed like Mood which are just as expensive as JoAnns). You'd have to be a complete fucking retard to spend 20+ on metallic spandex when you can get it from literally anywhere that has a fabric district.
I've never paid more than $8/yd for material, because all the best places will practically give it away to you if you haggle or a girl that can bat your eyelashes a bit for a discount
>bat your eyelashes a bit for a discount
>Implying the majority of men working at a fabric store aren't gay
Nice try please don't play again
The majority of men working at the fabric stores are conservative Muslims and whatever African immigrants they can round up. I mean Mood is predominantly gay men but not the guys at the shops on 38th/39th.
i was talking to some friend on facebook that work at jo-ann and they stay they are just going to move the fabric to a different locantion. it is still the same fabric you can buy RIGHT NOW at jo-ann
90% of the good/cheap places don't have a fucking website or anyway to order unless you go in person. News flash, dumbfuck: the world doesn't end at the Hudson. There's places in the country where JoAnn's and Walmart are the only option.
God, New Yorkers are conceited.
No, the point is that Joann fabric is not worth the obscene markup unless you use their big coupons (which you often can't because of the sale prices). I have literally come across bolts of their exact $8 chiffon for $3.99 in Walmart. Dropping $60 on fabric is fine, but dropping $60 on cheap quality fabric that is only worth $30 at any other store is a rip-off.
Do you even shop in NYC or are you just pulling that condescending attitude out of your ass? Most stores will knock a few bucks a yard off at best for large purchases (some will discount nothing); none of these storeowner will ever send you out with free fabric because of your ~femininittyyyyy~. Also I don't know what you're buying that "rarely" close to 15/yd but any kind of silk in NYC is going to run you close to that or more (the cheapest dupioni I've seen there still clocks in at $16-17)
Some people will look at that kind of warning and assume the warning is due to dye bleeding, burn, or shrinkage issue related to the fabric.
Nobody would look at a basic label warning like that and think "IT'S BC IT'LL ACTIVATE SKIN IRRITANT CHEMICALS THAT LEECH ONTO SKIN!" Bullshit. That shit ought to be labeled as a chemical hazzard regardless in addition to the handling labels.
Except that cosplayer could be completely lying.
I'very been following her for the past few months ever since she had tried to give her parents food poisoning. Honestly the most piece of shit cosplayer I have seen in a while.
yep, she is lol.
>she could be lying
But chemical irritants in clothes aren't a faked boogeyman some child made up for attention, they're real. A lot of Chinese fabrics contain teflon or formaldehyde, and other kinds of materials or spray-on chemicals that are known irritants/carcinogens. The US has zero regulation about these chemicals on fabric products too. This girl may be fucked in the head in other ways, but I'd also believe Yaya is jocking cheap fabric for profit.
I honestly see where she's coming from. Never heard of a SINGLE black/mixed cosplayer who's been invited to be a con guest.
not to mention there's not many characters with dark skin.
I also see where she's coming from, but she's only saying it because she wants to be that popular. Also she seems like a mess. (Not that other famous cosplayers aren't, but I'm not fans of theirs either.)
yeah I thought they just came out?? Like how the fuck did someone buy the fabric and make a full a cosplay with it for ALA (also I rarely even hear about cosplayers washing their fabric unless they're a higher level and I doubt that kind of person would buy yaya han fabric) lots of little bits of her story don't make sense to me
ALA was the last weekend in January.
When did the fabric first start showing up in stores?
I didn't think I'd heard of any of the fabric showing up until the beginning of February?
Obviously I don't know the shipping schedule but I'm not inclined to believe all the rumors until we get more credible posts.
My guess is it really isn't her fabric, but moreso a marketing gimmick with her signed on to be the face of the fabric because that way royalties and newbies won't understand to look for cheaper alternatives made of the same.
Here's a review: http://mjolnirismypenis.tumblr.com/post/138412471321/the-yaya-han-fabrics-are-in-at-joann-fabrics
I remember hearing something about how she designed and chose the fabrics of the collection so she does have some measure of control in it.
>Lives in capital city in Europe
>Biggest city not just in the country but among the local "neighbourhood" as well
>No fabric district
>Like one store that's not a overpriced chain
Lots of clothes and fabrics can cause bad reactions without washing. Especially when you're wearing it for a long day of sweating and rubbing and probably with other shit and props laying over it. I wear underarmor under most f my costumes because I hate prewashing and getting sweat on my costumes which probably won't survive an after wash.
60 bucks is enough to pay three visits to
my LDR girlfriend if I use it wisely.
60 bucks pay entrance and sleeping hall for one and a half con.
60 bucks is money I could actually spend on something that's worth it and not jacked-up shit from China.
This is essentially it. McCalls posted about it after NYCC. Yaya Han is the face but she was asked by whoever runs cosplayfabrics to collab with them. Probably to use her name to get the fabrics out there. As with all collabs she'd have some say because it IS her name but it's more like celebrity perfume than Arda.
Besides, whoever owns cosplayfabrics CAN'T be Yaya because their marketing outside of what Yaya has done is like nonexistent. Say what you will about her but bitch can market.
I'm wondering if it's cosplayers or McCalls who really owns it.
So, more digging the owners are a couple of people in their 50-60s. One of who is a guy whose family has been in the NYC fabric district for 100 years and is related to the girl who owns Alice + Olivia.
So rich assholes who specialize in childrens costumes, gaudy fabrics and ripping people off for a profit who know nothing about cosplayers but see dollar signs.
Boom. I've fallen down a hella rabbit hole here.
are you joking i live in australia which is literally the planets butthole when it comes to markups and a good cotton will cost you $5-$15 a meter depending on where you shop/if it's on sale.
but desu i just order all my fabric from taobao/aliexpress now, unless i'm short of something or i'm really desperate.
yeah and she supposedly had her first eczema breakout in over 10 years 2 days after wearing the fabric. Never heard of eczema being an allergic reaction, and I've had it my entire life.
Hero anon returns! According to the press releases posted about the fabric wasn't supposed to show up on shelves until Feb 7-18th.
My friend who works at a Joann's on the west coast got the price list in store on Jan 23 and said they got a few of the fabrics the week of the 31st. That's the absolute earliest I've seen any post about having them.
So unless ALA girl is a goddamn time traveller or went to a store bought the fabric, washed, sewed, iron and wore the costume in a couple days. I'd say the answer is this girl is a liar.
I also feel, scientifically...she'd have experienced a reaction much sooner than has been claimed. Or someone would've noticed a girl collapsing in hives at a con like ALA.
I will say it was mentioned you could order the fabric online apparently around the 23rd but Joanns and shipping is never a sure bet so it still seems iffy. But who knows.
Again these guys work with making childrens costumes but also have an office in Hong Kong. Safe bet says that's where their fabric comes from. They've been doing this since before disco was cool so I'd think they would have better contacts than people who would "spray dangerous chemicals" all over the fabric. And most shiny fabrics like the metalic spandex would have warning about washing and ironing because it'll fade the fabric or cause the metallic to otherwise flake out. So that's not really an indication. If someone did have an allergic reaction it could've been from any number of things especially if they've never worn the fabric before. I know a girl who can't wear spandex swimsuits, for example, bevause she has a severe tree gum allergy.
Not necessarily. Hives from allergic reactions linger. Especially if they're that severe.
The timing is more questionable, as people mentioned above. The fabric hasn't been out long.
This also begs the question as to whether they pre-washed or not.
I go to sleep with nothing but caps and "I wonder if Yaya knows about this?" and wake up to a goddamn scene from Ace Attorney. Bravo, anon sleuths. Bravo.
You are correct. And I personally wouldn't buy Yaya's fabric for any reason. I only shop at Joann's if I need something basic like muslin or solid colored fleece. I'm just loling at the people ITT who think spending more than $15 on ALL types of fabric is too much. Maybe if you live in New York or LA, but it's absolutely retarded to think everywhere else in the world has cheap as fuck fabric available locally. For some of us $20-$40 is normal for local stores that sell higher quality fabric than nearby Joanns or Hancock.
It also depends on what you're getting, too. Cotton is generally less than fabrics like wool or silk, which I work with the most. I got these fat quarters of imported Asian quilt cotton at a local quilting supply shop for a little less than $2 a piece, so that would be about $8 a yard. The quality is amazing, too. $20 would be too much for cotton, but is rather cheap for something like 100% wool or cashmere.
She already got what she wanted either way. This shit is all over my facebook feed AND it's now all over that girls review farther up thread spreading like crazy. All with caps with her name attached.
It'll be a Luna Lainey situation all over again, even if it comes out she lied she still gets all those new followers.
Apparently she's saying her store got it in early.
Another girl has been contacting different stores and customer service and she's getting multiple confirmation that the fabric wasn't in until February.
Unless the allergy chick has some proof. People are already calling her out on being a malicious drama whore.
It also looks like you can hand wash Yaya's fabric.
Apparently her allergic reaction was to the leather. Which you can't dry clean. Also the fact that if she DID have a reaction to pleather. It was probably because she has skin issues with pleather itself, not because of any chemicals supposedly added.
She better be more specific than that because there's no JoAnn in SF but there is one is Colma, a town south of there. However, I was there on 2/4 and they definitely don't have it. It's a tiny weird JoAnn and anyone from SF would tell you it's in Colma or Daly City, not San Francisco. El Cerrito might already have it but that's well up in east bay.
That being said the Super Bowl was pimped out as a San Francisco game even though it was played in Santa Clara 100 miles away.
It's on TifalA cosplay's Facebook.
The tl;Dr version is that the chick probably has allergy issues with the polyester backing and probably didn't know she'd have sensitivity to it. Not because of the supposed chemicals in it.
So yeah. The one starting the hive shot is probably full of shot and blew stuff out of proportion to cause drama.
The Levi's Stadium where the Super Bowl was held this year is about 50 miles away from about the middle of San Fransisco, not 100 miles.
The largest Jo-Ann's in the SF Bay Area would be the one in Fremont which is roughly a 45 minute train ride away or an hour drive give or take depending on traffic. There's also two other Jo-Ann stores before the Fremont store which are closer to SF and they are the Dublin and San Leandro store, however if I'm not mistaken, they're much smaller than the Fremont store. They probably would get all their fabric around the same time since truck day is on Thursdays and the truck goes to each store.
Sincerely, an ex Jo-Ann's employee and Bay Area local.
Still calling bullshit. If you look in the group the original claim was posted in, the girls said her friend bought the metallic looking armor one. Yet in the friends post they say they bought a blue 4 way stretch. You'd think you'd remember the color or style fabric someone was wearing if they actually had a reaction like they're claiming. At this rate, they're just digging their graves deeper.
Also, since when does Joann's do fabric previews?
Has anybody called the San Fran Joann's and asked if they released any kind ofpreview on these fabrics that would be enough to use in a costume?
Not to mention, if she bought the fabric at 1pm and had to be on a plane at 5pm when the fuck did she have time to make anything with it?
No one is posting to the cosplay fabrics FB page about this, only to Yaya's, which makes no sense because the company that produced the product would actually be able to do something for you. This sounds 100% like some bizarre anti Yaya rumor.
formaldehyde is the chemical used to keep many fabrics crisp, the SPECIFIC one she had gotten might've been accidentally doused in too much, in which case isn't really the ENTIRETY OF YAYA'S FABRIC LINE WILL KILL YOU, FUCK THIS LINE, STAY AWAY, YAYA IS A CUNT.
like really how old is this ayomekko girl?
No one is commenting on the fact the hospital apparently tests fabric like a crime lab and has enough to make a statement like "most we've ever seen" in a 2 yard piece of fabric.
Also she's claiming to have made a full spandex suit in less than an hour and a half. Also since when does synthetic spandex have a chance to mold?
19 if you can believe that. She seems quite immature for her age though. I agree with others in this thread. I'm shocked we haven't seen this alleged costume or cosplayfabrics was not directly contacted but then again the rumor has already done its job and spread like wildfire.
Just called the coma joanns (which opens at 9)
The said no previews and they just put it out yesterday, sounded like others have called too
I smell a friend that is in on this hefty ass load of bullshit
There have been great reviews for the stretch pleather. The spandex and twills are okay and the brocades are kind of cool but the pattern doesn't really work for any known costumes.
Every seems to think that this is Yaya's direct brand rather than a partnership. Like I said, the PR/Marketing team for CosplayFabrics is shit. Yaya's done legit all the marketing so even if they release other lines no one will know. Because they're not marketing themselves.
Which also means all ire will be directed at Yaya as the face of the line rather than the people who made it.
The stretchy ones are pretty good but a lot of them just feel like I have no idea what any of them would be used for. I personally found the brocades really fugly and like others have said, JoAnn already sells really similar, better priced options for most things.
I mean she's my source as well (Detective anon here) but I kept her actual posts out of it to respect her privacy. So I guess its really a respect thing. She doesn't like drama and this thread is drama but eh.
The person who had the allergic reaction is apparently from San Bruno? I'm not from the area so I have no idea how far that is from either JoAnns in the San Fransisco area. But they supposedly got the fabric at 1, then magically had time to spill paint on it, wash it and create a garment from it while making it to the airport for a flight at 5 to LA.
Yeah and she'd have to have gotten to the airport probably at the absolute minimum 30 minutes before her flight. But realistically 1 hour ahead. Also how long was her commute to the airport?
Her story is falling apart.
Its not true. Timelines don't match up and being in a suit without testing out the fabric on your skin first is all your fault. A body suit without you testing it out first to see if you will have a reaction with the fabric, sweating inside the suit, rubbing against it constantly with bare skin without some inbetween layer, isn't Yaya's fault.
Mfw when those are bed bugs bites....not an allergic reaction.
The infestation level if those were bed big bites would be more bed bugs than bed. Some also look a bit big for bed bugs bites or don't follow the clusters of 3 they usually bite in.
Most likely just plain old hives.
The fabric is garbage. It's thin, shitty, hideously shiny, and all the dick-sucking about 4-way stretch is ridiculous. You can get better quality and price from so many other places. Twill for 20-30 dollars a yard that is poorer quality than the 12 dollar twill in the same store? Yaya Han's name isn't chanel. You can't slap it on a product and ask for twice the price. Fake meme or not, the product is lousy and everyone wants to board the Whiteknight express and preach community when all Yaya is doing is exploiting her place in it.
San Bruno is a 10-15 minute drive to the San Mateo and Colma locations and the SFO airport. It's actually fairly doable if you have a rise but it doesn't change that at least the Colma location definitely didn't have that fabric yet
Pre-washing/drying fabric takes at least an hour or more, and getting to the airport 1-2 hours before the flight is standard, since most start boarding a half hour or more before takeoff. So that still doesn't leave enough time to create a full costume even if the stores had the fabric.
Wrong, I am black and have been invited to be a guest at a con and did it. It doesn't matter what race a character is...people can cosplay whoever they want and do it well. I always do.
It's bad business to knock Yaya given how the cosplay community is deifying her in all this. GSTQ can spin shit into gold, but most people will have no use for these fabrics. Go to your local Joanns. Touch them. Try not to laugh at how awful they are. Or better yet, try to think of at least one you could use for each useless bolt.
Why am I salty just because I roll my eyes at it? It's marketed as a cosplay product, so as I cosplayer I am critiquing it. I didn't need to read anyone's review, I went myself to check them out, and they were awful and tacky.
Yeah. If she said she finished making the costume at the con, I'd possibly believe the time frame. But she seriously left herself maybe three to four hours to wash, dry, and sewing an entire bodysuit. I'm knocking off at least an hour for The commuting to the airport and shopping/driving too and from Joann's to get her fabric.
I don't buy her time frame one bit.
Mostly every here is saying "it's the same shit joann already sold" no one is Whiteknighting unless sharing a non-negative opinion is Whiteknighting now.
Sorry you're salty people have moved onto the juicier drama of these lying hobags whining about made up chemicals burning them?
Links to multiple pictures
bed bug bites...
not hives, bed bugs
Yeah, even if you cut out washing/drying It's still a stretch. What with traffic being unpredictable and all.
Not to mention the making up chemicals thing. No matter how you spin it a hospital wouldn't test clothing unless they suspect a contagious biohazard and even then they ship that shit out and it takes daaaaaaays.
My brother gets chronic hives because he is one of those special cases where he is almost allergic to the world. Kind of sucks, but those she has are not hives. Definitely bed bugs like you say.
Do people NOT realize that not making an extra lining for suits can cause you to sweat and create rashes? This is why the expensive online bought ready-made suits are so pricey. Their lining is to prevent sweat rubbing against the latex or pleather and to not create painful rashes after persistent wear. I feel like this is all from people who don't know how to test fabric allergies and don't lookup how to properly line or wear certain articles of clothing.
I swear...If this results in needing a huge sign at fabric stores to say, "TEST ON SKIN BEFORE PURCHASE", I'm done. I hate when common sense ISN'T common sense.
SFO will not check your baggage in if your flight departs in 50 mins or less. I don't believe this girl went to an anime con without checked baggage.
This story is complete bullshit.
I'm going to take her word with a grain of salt. There's a lot of drama with her in the ATL area. She also failed at making a career in theater and claimed, at one point, to have been asked her information by Yaya's agent. She's also bashed Yaya in private circles.
She also lied about her involvement on Constantine to further herself in the community.
So, really, I would not trust her at all.
She talked about the fabric in a discussion with her personal Facebook not as GSTQ so I'm more inclined to believe her. Mind you this is really only about the stretch pleather and twill no word on the brocades but I doubt she cares about those. And I don't really care about the drama. And honestly everyone bashes Yaya in private circles. Though a lot of the bashing comes down to "she's good at what she does but she can be really dumb sometimes."
Apparently doctors are "positive it's something about the fabric". Now to wait for a GFM for a new washing machine because this one is ruined by this chemical.
How do I read directions durrrr hurrrrrrrrrr.
I want to hear from these supposed others who have had the same reaction to the fabric. Why haven't they said anything? One was supposedly at the League of Legends gathering at ALA, if this actually happened there then there would have been something public before now.
What others? There is literally no others. WHO ARE THESE MYSTERIOUS OTHERS? Is the saga going to turn into this doctor suddenly has an influx of mysterious unnamed cosplayers?
And again what is with this "anti-mold" shit? Someone ask her what the chemical is called. She went to the ER, she should have discharge papers with the diagnosis. If the chemical was the cause it'd be listed none of this "I can't pronounce/spell it" crap. No search has turned up a chemical called "demphy" let alone an anti-mold chemical applied to synthetic fabric.
GSTQ isn't the queen of fabrics. Most of us have been working with fabric just as long as she has. I also can't take most of her word since she is BFFs with Yaya and uses leather for mostly everything. Her work is great but never liked her fabric choices.
The majority is upset over the types of fabric it is and it's cost yet they are being advertised as the greatest shit in existence.
Given the fact that you can dye fabric in your washing machine and then use it without problems to do your laundry, provided you clean it by running a cycle afterwards, I'm calling bullshit too.
Guys send help! Yayas fabric is eating my face off!
She probably bitched to the doctor saying she was wearing fabric with chemicals on it so of course the doctor would come to that conclusion. The doctor would not be testing the fabric in a lab. This girl keeps trying to cover her ass but it's not working.
The funny thing is that someone who disputed the claim that it was all for attention for a response about an anti-mold treatment. Suddenly ALL THESE CLAIMS appeared that is has to do with these anti-mold things!
Also, according to the timeline, seems a bit early for results to be back. From the sounds of it this person also got wind of the same dispute post talking about when the fabrics were released vs. ALA happening and how no one wouldve had the fabric [large enough pieces to make anything out of it, samples or not]. Just a bunch of people trying to cover their asses because their lies don't match up.
So they now want us to believe two other cosplayers got to that mythical preview sale made costumes and got to the con all on the same day.
But they just don't feel like posting about it. Her word is TOTES reliable.
They should've expected it. We can smell a drop of bullshit in a sea of drama in a heartbeat.
Yaya drama is commonplace, but this unfolding bullshit is gold. Of course we'd leap on it.
I got a weird rash from a medication a couple weeks ago and my doctor wouldn't confirm or deny anything and didn't do any tests, just told me to discontinue the medication immediately and see if I get better.
People just keep pressing her until she makes a contradiction we can call her on. I learned this in PW games and I'm pretty sure it translates into real life OK.
/cgl/ seems to be the only place bored enough to go into detail about this kind of thing. It's what I like doing though, honestly.
Just look at how many people blindly accepted that Yaya Han's fabric is the devil and makes your skin melt.
While I normally worship the ground GSTQ walks on, I'm taking her review with a big grain of salt. She and Yaya are friends and occasional business/panel partners, so it would be ridiculous to expect her to bash Yaya's fabric. I also gave a big side eye to her claim that the price point was on par with or cheaper than the average.
That being said, >>8854291 is salty as fuck. There's nothing wrong with the matte/higher quality 4-way stretch except maybe the price.
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the person who made the original claim for her "friend" started that too, saying 2 days later her eczema started on her hands after not having a breakout for 15 years and was filled with puss. I know eczema is an autoimmune problem, but I've never heard of anyone having a breakout that involved puss.
Eczema doesn't puss. I have eczema. I have had SEVER eczema breakouts to the point of bleeding. It never, EVER pusses. No matter what the issue is for eczema. This cunt is a huge liar. I'm actually insulted to hear her say her eczema pussed. Jimmies legit rustled.
Also, for anyone else who may have it, don't use cortisone. Use St. Ives Oatmeal and Shea Butter lotion. It contains Urea with a natural antibiotic that soothes eczema and other dry skin conditions that can flare up. I'm on the bad end of everything though. I have eczema which is one autoimmune AND I have hoshimotos [type of thyroid disorder]. I got two and never, ever have I had problems with eczema since I've used St. Ives. Bee 4 years so far. Much better from what it used to be with bloody and patches everywhere.
Of course they are. Because it took this girl washing it in hot water and wearing it for a few hours to have a reaction but they're just ~so delicate~ they react just by touching it.
Believable. I am tempted to buy a yard just to wear it around for awhile.
Its not urine if that is what you are going to say. In fact, our bodies naturally produce one of the two types of urea. Won't thin my skin like cortisone will and won't create spider veins on legs.
I get eczema on my hands, and haven't had a severe breakout (bleeding) for almost 6 or 7 years now. I do get it pretty bad when I'm really stressed out. I've always used cortisone cream and have never had a problem.
Put the photo through metapicz, is this what you're talking about? >>8854527
I don't buy the doctor telling her it was because of the fabric. She is probably looking at it through her anti-Yaya lense or something. The causes of symptoms such as rashes are so extensive, it's irresponsible to pin it 100% on just one thing after a few hours of observation.
Here's the Colma location's Yaya section though there is no sign placard on it.
Please stop calling this place it's tiny and shitty and in the middle of a weekday only two people are there. One for the register and one for the floor/cutting.
Here's the blue rubber stuff and it's extremely legit and easily the most worthwhile of the collection. The inside feels pretty normal and fairly soft. Is there supposed to be one in black? It would be amazing for something like Gantz or Undyne armor. The other pleathers are kind of whatever.
It's not about being able to afford it, it's about taking time to budget so you can actually have some savings for, like, the real world where you can't sit on /cgl/ all day being entitled.
The brocades feel a little cheaper than I was hoping and the hyper ornamental ones Joann already had have a much better feel and designs.
The metallic spandex is fine and I saw the green one was already behind the cutting counter so someone got it for something. But in SF there's already places that have that for $10/yd.
Hmm, I don't think this is accurate. Or, at the very least, not very reliable evidence. I ran another photo on the same FB thread (a picture of the Yaya bolts) and it came up as 2009... Obviously, that's not right, haha.
tifaia made a post on tumblr saying the girl reached out to her and her story sounds like a lot of backtracking now. I guess she says the fabric was moldy and she caused a "chemical reaction" with soap which was what gave her a rash. OK sure.
so it went from anti-mold chemicals to it was actually moldy?
I think she's trying to imply that washing the clothes washed off some sort of anti-mold agent so it miraculously molded in the washer within minutes? girl needs to give it up already.
Depends on the fabric but mold can definitely grow on it. I've thrown out a box of fabric that was left outside and found mold on a lot of the fabric inside(and the snails had made a home of it quiet a bit too)
I also scrubbed mold off of some leather.
But I highly doubt a brand new roll of synthetic material would have enough mold on it to make somebody ill.
completely agree with this anon....i stood there in front of the bolts and tried to think of ANYTHING somewhat common i could use the fabrics for. couldn't come up with anything....the colors and patterns are odd enough to make them completely unusable for most costumes.
Tried doing the same with random other photos on FB and the date keeps bouncing around. Photos directly from camera to HD were accurate.
It's probably something with FB, so no, doing exif data with photos posted to FB are not accurate.
They shouldn't be called "cosplay" fabric, they're "costume" fabric. They're made for tacky Elsa AUs and shitty ~sailor moon inspired~ outfits. They're what normies would think of when asked to imagine what cosplay was. Yaya is pretending to represent a niche market when she's really marketing to the broadest consumer base out there.
Link? There's a lot on that site that are similar that are $10-15 and with the coupon the Joann stuff is the same and in hand quicker. People can't really judge Joann prices at face value anyone can tell you have to use coupons to get the real market price.
Why does it have to be common? Most "common" costumes can be made from twill and poly. Vocaloids, AoT uniforms, Naruto, One Piece, seifuku etc
This is for the weird armor and super hero stuff. The colored spandex is good for weird colored armors and I wish more Sayakas utilized blue metallic spandex for their boob armor. The carbon fiber could be good for something in Mass Effect.
The brocades are the only thing that really seen out of place. That's there I guess for the people who want to make their own version of Yaya's peacock dress or some other original steampunkish design? Maybe for lining Castlevania outfits?
All hat being said, before any of this started, I've always been baffled by how few people seem to know Joann coupons exist and they probably thrive from this.
If we're going to nitpick then all fabric is costume fabric.
There's a whole other debate on what makes a "cosplayer" versus a "costumer"
i only meant commonly cosplayed characters, like marvel characters, star wars, disney, etc. stuff the normies would want to dress as. none of those metallics would work for most superhero costumes, they're way too neon. the blue ultrapreme pleather was great, but why not have it in black? that would be useful, not the weird "navy" they had at my store. i don't do much game cosplay, but the studded look pleather was baffling, but i guess maybe warhammer costumes? but none of those characters are mainstream.....which seems to be the market that joann's is trying to satisfy.
Anyone wondering what type of paint she was using? Im pretty sure the whole thing with her using Yaya's line is bull but she never specifies what paint she used. I know some that can cause skin rashes. I'd be more prone to believe some chemical in that irritated her and stained her washer
Not just that, but nobody mentions that she washed fabric "that had paint spilled on it" in the machine. Why would anyone wash something with paint on it in their washing machine? Also, if I had a breakout like this girl apparently did, why didn't she also look at the paint being an issue? Depending on the type, paint could make you break out. You aren't supposed to get it on your skin, especially not for prolonged periods. Why does she immediately blame the fabric?
This whole thing makes me feel really old. One person posts a BS story and then suddenly handfuls of other people are parroting a fake story, but have nothing to back it up. I am not a fan of Yaya whatsoever but this is just dumb.
I have sensitive skin and everything new I use is simply trial and error - everything from personal products (soap, lotion, bubble bath, etc) to fabrics and laundry detergent. If I have a bad reaction to a product I don't go bitching out the company that made it, I just discontinue using it. But oh wait, that's taking responsibility for my actions.
The whole thing reeks of Girl wanting attention (she certainly got it) and wanting to pin something on Yaya (which is dumb, as others have pointed out, Yaya doesn't manufacture the product).
Because clearly that's what her ER doctor, House MD, told her when he sent the fabric to his buddies down at CSI:BS for testing.
Demphy anti-mold chemical that is actually mold caused by shitty paint, metallic spandex, and hot water. INSTANTANEOUS mold. Trust me, I'm a scientist.
It's funny, I know someone who saw the new bolts in store this weekend and freaked out because he's been looking for that carbon print forever for his Mass Effect cosplay.
Most of those fabrics ARE useless, but a few of them are really helpful in specific contexts like the one this anon mentioned. She's not trying to reinvent the wheel here, she's trying to get weird fabrics into stores that cosplayers MIGHT need and might be hard to track down.
someone getting a rash from material is pretty plausible but I think for the most part people are just blowing it out of proportion just because its a yaya han product and its over priced.
if people are experiencing allergic reactions to it. im sure its a pretty low percent.
Ah yes and now that it's been deleted the cosplayer ayomeko has changed her name again. She did it after the parent food poisoning thing, and after she fought against people trying to say asians don't count as people of color,
Whatever it was before > Urushii > ayomeko > ayomi
Always keeping the Karri part.
Gotta say she's the first person I've seen that changes her name every time she pisses off the community.
So the girl who wrote the negative review tumblr is ALSO claiming to have had a reaction. (She's the Ren mentioned in the article.)
Seriously? I wonder if they realize this can and will get them sued.
I think it was because she was mad at them for some ridiculously childish reason like telling her no to a homestuck costume she wanted comissioned and she wanted to get back.
It was in a cringe thread a few moths ago.
Veerin away from all this chemicals nonsense.
When it comes to the fabric itself the brocades are pretty lame, the other brocades in Joanns are much prettier and interesting
plus Yaya’s brocades will scream at everyone that you are using the fabric.
The metallics and stretch pleather are okay …
A lot are saying that joanns already has those fabrics anyway but it isn’t quite the same
joann’s performance fabric gives of more of a sparkles effect than the yaya line, if I’m going for something flashy like idols,I’d rather use performance fabrics but if I’m not really feeling like I want a sparkly outfit, I’d rather go for the metallics.
With the pleather, the joanns stores in my area don’t have it and neither does online.
The closest thing I could find in store was similar to the sparkly performance fabric and looked bad .
The Ultrapreme was pretty cool but they only have it in blue in stores, I agree with whoever said the stores should have been sent black instead, or even white.
I don’t even know what the fuck the other studded pleather would be used for… Larping maybe?
For the prices, well until they go on sale, you can use multiple coupons, which brings them to $10 - $15 which I mean is the same online, without having to pay shipping.
Plus you don’t have to wait for payment to go through and then the shipping time .
So pretty much Yaya’s line is good for when you need something last minute, when you prefer to buy things in person rather than online ( There are actually quite a few people who don’t like to spend the money on sample fabrics beforehand to check if the fabric is correct or not ), and if you don’t have a fashion district where you can check out a bunch of weird fabrics
so it’s kind of all about convenience in my eyes.
To some it’s all about how that bitch with boobs is trying to KILL US AND SCAM US UNTIL WE HAVE NO MONEY SO I HAVE TO GO AROUND AND MAKE ANYONE WHO WANTS TO BUY YAYA’S STUFF FEEL LIKE A PIECE OF SHIT AND TERRIBLE PERSON!!!!
But really all I see is a bitch with boobs finding another stupidly smart way to make money while simultaneously giving a nice convenience to others.
Obviously The company’s target audience isn’t people who boycott all things Yaya and Nigri, but to everyone else who’ll accept the convenience of being able to quickly get a hold of these fabrics.
I'm not sure about either side of the story at this point, first off.
I went to my local JoAnnes just now and picked up the fabric. I have an extremely good nose and I have to say there was a STRONG chemical smell in the fabric.
I'm not sure if she's lying or not but they do smell over-treated.
The thing that makes the story unbelievable is the timing.
Unless the San Mateo store is the one lying to everyone, there is no possible way to have gotten the fabric before February 4th.
I've got 4 way stretch I ordered from spandex house that I've had for 4+ years and it still smells like dead fish. Some fabric just smells. It's not like all this spandex and vinyl is natural fibers.
Yeah, that was her. She's always spamming the nor cal cosplay groups with her stupid bullshit.
This is absolutely stupid.
Needless to say, the irony is that most of the people who pulled this to shit on Yaya have now made her more of a victim of the community than an offender. Way to go, really. It's fucking embarassing to see the amount of people who now look like morons who, on top of that, don't understand the basics of buying fabrics.
I found her cosplay page and hollllyyyy shiiit. This makes the wanting attention thing a lot more believable. Its Ayomeko cosplay.
she claims she gets too much male attention and then whats in the first few posts. Like REALLY?