Prove that investing is not just glorified gambling

gambling relies on pure chance

investing relies on economic theory

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>>1087517
The House always wins OP.

Such isn't the case for investing.

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>>1087522
>theory
>implying the powers that be don't rig the game

>>1087528
Prove that they do.

Protip: you can't

>>1087517
nigga who said you need to glorify gambling? come on son

>>1087522
not in the long run it doesn't...

sure an individual spin of a wheel or roll of a dice or round of cards relies on chance - in the long run though the revenue flows towards the person with the edge - in table games this is usually the casino, in poker this is also the casino but also the dealer (tips) and the few players with sufficient skill to beat the game + rake after tips..

in sports betting this is bookies + exchanges... and the few sportsbetters able to get +EV bets on and beat the vig...

in investing you just need to beat your fixed costs... generally you've got dividends so long term dumb investing in indecies or blue chips you're still probably going to be +EV.... but if trading on a shorter time frame you need a better edge to beat the much higher costs in terms of crossing the spread and paying commissions


in short the OP is basically correct - investing, trading, gambling - it is all pretty similar

Highjacking. Is it time to pull the trigger on TWMJF?

>>1087553
no dude - look at Canada's economy

>>1087610
fuck u mean lil nigga, what the fuck im spost tou invest in

>>1087517
I've been trading for 7 years.
The money I started with wouldn't last me 6 months in a casino.
That tells me there's something fundamentally different about the two activities.

>>1087616
LUV, AAL, S&P 500

>>1087630
VOO for S&P? Why airlines, because people never stop flying?

>>1087630
>>1087636
Also isn't it better to diversify between multiple countries?

>>1087638
*large, mid, and small cap US funds, REITs, and international developed markets

>>1087525
>The House always wins OP.
>Such isn't the case for investing.
Once you understand that the "house" in this example is the exchange/market-maker, you'll realize how stupid your comment is.

>>1087649
>Da exchange is trickin us all it's da jews maaan
>Buy gold it can't be printed at will by da fed

>>1087636
world economy is taking a shit - and airlines can remain profitable in a recession with current fuel prices

>>1087653
>>Da exchange is trickin us all it's da jews maaan
Don't go full retard, son. The exchanges takes fees for services rendered, just like the house takes a rake at the poker table.

Grow up.

>>1087656
no u fgt

>>1087656
Of course it takes fees, what do you think runs it?

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>>1087530
>>1087522
You literally never traded.

>>1087654
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/6-steps-to-the-ultimate-retirement-portfolio-2014-04-09
What do you think of this article?

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You absolutely can gamble in the stock market. But you can also invest wisely.

There's risk in all of life ventures, just varying degrees of it.

>>1087517
positive expected value

>>1087686
Why can't you prove that anon wrong?

when the economy tanks everyone gets hurt in the end, even the house

>>1087748
Because if he had traded he would've known and I don't want to ELI5 on 4chan.

Whole thread and no one mentioned ethereum yet.

>>1087686
sure have dude
i don't daytrade but i've done some swing trading and came out slightly ahead
currently just holding index funds

>>1087807
>Because if he had traded he would've known and I don't want to ELI5 on 4chan.

And yet you still replied.

>Makes thread telling us we have to prove investing isn't gambling and is not rigged
>Can't fucking prove that it IS rigged

>>1087818
Yep doc, we have a case of retardation.

Poor argument, you own a piece of a company that went to market to generate capital to invest to increase profit/revenue.