[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / biz / c / cgl / ck / cm / co / d / diy / e / fa / fit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mu / n / news / o / out / p / po / pol / qa / qst / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vip /vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y ] [Search | Home]
4Archive logo
i dont know much about economics, but this...
If images are not shown try to refresh the page. If you like this website, please disable any AdBlock software!

You are currently reading a thread in /biz/ - Business & Finance

Thread replies: 24
Thread images: 7
File: Capture.png (322 KB, 722x693) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
Capture.png
322 KB, 722x693
i dont know much about economics, but this just seems like a really, really, REALLY bad idea.

http://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/020416/obama-floats-10-barrel-oil-tax.asp
>>
>>1078679
I propose ending the ethanol subsidies and funneling that money to cleantech instead.
>>
>>1078679
I don't think he will be able to do it.
>>
>>1078679

It's not a terrible idea, but it might operate better if it were a kind of oil price stabiliser, so the cheaper oil gets the higher the tax, and as prices go up the levy decreases. Still, like >>1078719 says, the republicans in congress won't pass anything proposed by Obama. Anything. It doesn't matter if he suggested doing away with taxes altogether, they'd still block it.

>>1078719
>>
>>1078679
An increase in demand destruction for oil would be bad for drivers, oil producers, and others, but probably good for encouraging necessary/likely adaptations and transformations (especially when combined with "innovation" programs).

The change from owning personal vehicles to companies providing automated "smart car" services is a step toward the future of mobility. Longer term, this sort of transformation means things like... adapting to using fossil fuels at a decreasing rate (w/algorithms working to find efficient carpools and routes), controlling travel, and the erosion of entitlement to cars... setting them up to gradually become elite-only (in a less energy rich world) under the guise of "progress" and "green".
>>
File: jack.jpg (11 KB, 236x258) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
jack.jpg
11 KB, 236x258
>Democrats are literally Republicans

Wtf I thought Obama knew money was the root of all evil GAS THE 1%

SANDER 2015!!!!!!
>>
File: image.png (74 KB, 824x718) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
image.png
74 KB, 824x718
I think this is a great idea. If we cut revenues from the east, they will be stupid not to raise their prices on oil, subsequently helping our economy on top of our gains from the tax.

tl;dr suh dude
>>
high cost producers are fucked.
>>
File: murica.jpg (877 KB, 3000x2250) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
murica.jpg
877 KB, 3000x2250
It wouldn't be so much about the economic prospects. Obama is trying to implement a more environmentally stable transport system with this tax. Move away from oil. But yes it would also fuck the Middle East up royally.
>>
File: 1408748739610.gif (3 MB, 343x186) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1408748739610.gif
3 MB, 343x186
oil barrel =/= gasoline

We are already taxed by the gallon on gasoline. This crude oil tax will not be just for gasoline. It is anything crude oil is used for. Manufacturing plastic, heating oil, asphalt. This tax would be catastrophic, especially to the poor which the left claims they love so dearly.
>>
>>1078679
I hope this succeeds. My tsla stocks would love this.
>>
>>1078831
Citation needed
>>
>>1078679
It's a talking point, nothing more, nothing less. There is less than a 0% chance of this ever passing congress, which sets taxes (not the president). Obama is hoping that talking about it will buy him some support from green groups or something I imagine. The sorts of people who get excited about things like this don't much care about the economic impact of things like this and are generally too politically checked out to notice that it's never going to happen for a variety of reasons beyond "The evil 1% killed my gas tax that would have totally saved a billion baby seals."
>>
>>1078852
No it isn't.

If you increase the price of things people have to pay more to buy it and making poor people pay more for things they must have makes them even poorer.

What were you expecting him to cite? A grade 2 class picture book on how money works?
>>
>>1078852

You're retarded.
>>
>>1078679

This sounds like a terrible idea. One of the things that has been driving down the trade deficit has been the increased production of refined products like diesel and plastics. Adding $10 tax to this means not only is every exporter that uses oil as a feedstock screwed, it will only increase of refined products being imported into the country. That trade deficit will just widen again and the us dollar will fall with it.

He would have better luck and sense by raising the gasoline tax
>>
>>1078679
>we're gonna cure cancer
>look how great i am
>we're gonna tax oil
>look how great i am
I generally like Obama, but he needs to sit the fuck down.
>>
File: marc_rich-cgar.jpg (148 KB, 1583x1200) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
marc_rich-cgar.jpg
148 KB, 1583x1200
>>1078679
The POTUS is attempting to get oil taxes back from offshore accounts/tax havens. "If I tax you at the well head, I get the money before you hide it offshore...."

They can't do it to Apple so they are doing it to the energy producing industry.

As Pinky and I used to say, "It's all just a big game.."
>>
>>1078679
No matter how well intentioned he is, he could not have picked a worse time to attempt this.
>>
>>1079150
Cheap oil is helping the People and the economy as a whole. The only ones complaining about cheap oil is the "green" companies that have no demand and continuously depend on government handouts.
>>
>>1078831
This, holy shit

Like how do democrats not understand by now that if you tax the rich more they will just make the poor pay more for it? What, are poor people just gonna stop buying gas for their cars? The ONLY people that are ever hurt by tax increases are the poor, whether or not they are taxed directly.
>>
Pff, this is a throwaway line to please the environmentalists. He knows it won't get passed. He probably won't even submit it.
>>
>>1079150
Proposal is not to tax at the wellhead.

Administration doesn't exactly know where (or how) they are going to levy the tax but confirmed it would not be a wellhead tax. Judging by the answers to questions, they did even less due diligence than normal.
Thread replies: 24
Thread images: 7
Thread DB ID: 490335



[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / biz / c / cgl / ck / cm / co / d / diy / e / fa / fit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mu / n / news / o / out / p / po / pol / qa / qst / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vip /vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y] [Search | Home]

[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / biz / c / cgl / ck / cm / co / d / diy / e / fa / fit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mu / n / news / o / out / p / po / pol / qa / qst / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vip /vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y] [Search | Home]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.
This is a 4chan archive - all of the shown content originated from that site. This means that 4Archive shows their content, archived. If you need information for a Poster - contact them.
If a post contains personal/copyrighted/illegal content, then use the post's [Report] link! If a post is not removed within 24h contact me at [email protected] with the post's information.