>90-100 hour work week >deal with shitty people all day that treat you like dog shit >make the same hourly wage as a mcdonalds employee >first to be fired in a recession >career comes to a dead end after 2 years if you don't spend 150k on an MBA from some bullshit ivy league school
>>1061019 One that you don't like. It has nothing to do with labels. Some people love long work weeks and others prefer 9-5, some prefer working for themself. I know guys who prefer construction, retail, etc over trades jobs. Most people decide on money.
>4 years college >4 years med school >3 years residency making barely above minimum wage >60 hours week average >250k student loans >Don't break even till mid 40s >Best years of your life are your 50s-60s without staggering debt >lose half hour shit when your wife leaves because all you can do is work
Do glad I got out of that shit while I still could
Factory work. Trust me. I've had two factory-like jobs. One was on a farm, and the other one was in a factory. In fact, the last job started at 8 in the morning, ended at 6 in the evening, and literally the only activity I did was pushed two buttons to stick a label on something. I did both jobs for exactly one day.
In a way, I'm kind of glad I had those jobs, because now I know that your job must absolutely have variation. I mean, I'd rather have any minimum wage job like dilivering pizzas over monotonous, static work like that
i code and want to kill myself, but at least it pays well. want to move into a more creative position so i don't feel like an editor/robot.
a lot of industries are crumbling - even the ones with greater sales. for instance, shipping/logistics is getting shittier. at the USPS, used to be that you could made a middle class income w/ great benefits and pension (probably too much t-b-h). now they hire schmucks who make $15 bucks and hour with no schedule/benefits/prospects of advancement, and even if they do advance they start at a salary tens of thousands of dollars less than what their predecessors make with about half the benefits. granted mail volume is down, but packages are up billions of units per year.
same with a lot of the other companies like fedex and ups. package volume and sales are way up, but the companies are providing fewer and fewer career positions and low low wages, higher turnover rate, more piece of shit employees. i don''t know why these companies think it's a good idea.
it's pretty crazy what the market used to be able to provide pension, medical, 401k on top of the competitive salary. most of the people i graduated with, it's a mixed bag of what they're given. just
poor management of resources when times were good has really fucked over the upcoming field of workers.
if it's a sales position, you're going to hate people. If it doesn't involve human interaction, you'll starve for it. If it's too easy it will be unfulfilling, if it's too hard, it will burn you out. If it's in front of a PC your eyes will fall out, if it's manual labor, you're going to wish you're white collar.
Basically there are so many things to hate about every job. You have to LOVE one aspect of the job to make the rest tolerable.
>>1061237 It's a workaholic culture, from what I understand. Same as fields like politics. If you really love it, you won't care that you get paid relatively poorly and do nothing else with your life. If you value leisure, though, you'll hate it.
And aside from some faggots on this board, most people enjoy leisure.
Correct. IB is like a pyramid, there are less people at each level and after a certain number of years at each level, they promote the top few and fire the rest. Because of this, there are tons of ex-IB people all over the place who claim they "quit to follow my dreams" or something similar.
Maybe that's true in a few cases. Not true for most of them.
It is not uncommon for EMTs to get paid 10 an hour. Now, the educational barrier for entry is low, which I feel like is one of the justifications for low pay. Everyone in the field tries to become a paramedic because of this and in many areas their pay is starting to decrease due to saturation...EMTs are actually in demand but no one wants to work for the low pay.
The stress of the job is off the charts, the benefits are thin, you physically destroy yourself for next to no reward. You become mentally fucked from some of the shit you see. A lot of the private companies have extremely toxic work environments.
It is a field you truly have to love. Only certain types of people really truly thrive and can handle it, it can be an absolute blast at times though. But very scary when you are traveling 60 miles an hour in a thirty five priority one to the scene of a pediatric cardiac arrest. I still have a weird tic that I developed from the stress of the job when I was driving.
>>1061229 Well in terms of elementary schools >can't do anything in US anymore thanks to common core >some teachers don't even do social studies anymore because everyone's ramming math and science requirements down kids throats >literally no teacher in the world would recommend becoming one this day and age >tfw your gf is becoming one anyways
>>1061233 That's why i went the physical therapy route :^)
It's literally compromise: the job. You're much more active than physician or yknow desk job or something but you aren't doing hard labor either. You get to know your patients better than most people in the medical field cause they come regularly, and you don't have to try and push anything on them; just have SOME people skills and they're generally nice to you back. Starting your own office up is kind of stressful and not as rewarding financially as a doctors office or something but yeah that's PT life. It's stil decent pay
>>1061096 >>1061094 I had almost the same experience, thing is most of the time because of local codes etc. its cheaper to hire woman/mexican/etc to do the 2 button push, then to automate it. Especially if you think to move your whole business in 5-10 years or you are closing the line in year or so.
>>1061226 Coding is tough if you work with morons. They're always screaming about problems even as they handcuff you from soliving any of them. Then it's off to make up some lies about your performance to deny you unemployment when the time comes.
I imagine it must sick for lousy coders too, living in fear of somebody competent getting past HR's defenses.
But it all comes down to criminally poor management either way.
>>1061226 Overpopulation is the cause, everything else is a symptom. If a virus comes along and kills off half the world in a day before disappearing it wouldn't even be a threat to humanity, we'd be back to the world population of 1965.
I'm good at math and really love working with statistical data and such that most people consider boring. What field should I look at that most people avoid like the plague? What should I learn to do that will strengthen my skills and make me invaluable?
>>1064088 no the worst part is apathy. at my highschool no one cared except the teachers. students skipped, administrators were never actually working, most of the time they would be too lazy to discipline kids even when they saw them doing something shitty. the guidance counselors were never even at school. the principal just jerked off in his office while the VP did his job for him.
teachers become teachers because they do care. when they realize no one else does it crushes their souls. the only teachers to thrive are ones that put in minimal effort and have a " i get summers off baby woohoo!!" attitude
>>1061237 From what I hear, it's somewhat manageable if you're a semi autist and have never had a serious gf and aren't making immediate plans to settle down If you're trying to have a serious life and thinking about settling down in the next 10 years most people find it completely unbearable because you know what you're missing
>>1064664 I worked in a call center for a financial institution, which is one of the better call center jobs to have honestly. I only worked there for four months. It's easy to burn out.
It's also easy to get duped into a shitty call center job. I wouldn't recommend it. I seriously don't. Avoid outbound sales.
In the town in which I attended high school, Barclays is opening a major call center for their credit division I guess. That strikes me as a worthwhile job. If you can make it six months to a year, you can became a supervisor or a call monitor which is infinitely better. My boss didn't have a college degree and she made 80k as the call center manager. She was paid as much as a branch manager at the credit union I worked at.
It's really all up to you and what you think you can handle. I can't emphasize self-care enough. If you take anything away from my post, take this. Take care of yourself. Your good health supported by proper rest, proper nutrition, and proper exercise will determine your ability to keep and perform at your job, any job, but particularly a monotonous, stressful, volatile job such as a cell center associate.
>>1064769 professors what I'd like to but I don't know if masters and doctorate would be for me. I've been told such negative things- and a lot of negative things have happened in my life too, so I'm not sure what the next step is.
>pay is good but you have to work long ass periods of time in the middle of nowhere >drug addicts everywhere due to boredom/stress(mainly a problem in the oil industry) >get laid off constantly >most people are divorced because maintaining a family life is hard as fuck
Good for a single young guy though looking to finance further endeavors
>>1064664 >what call center jobs are worth going into? Government call centers, but they are hard to get in to. A high school buddy of mine gets paid $45k per year to answer questions about immigration issues. His agency is in DC but he works from home in the Carolinas full time.
>>1065000 I work in the next level, steel. Except that most offices are in shit locations I earn a lot at entry level. Same as my friends at the Big 4 but shorter weeks. Industries that aren't "sexy" generally pay better at business level
>>1065113 Go on usajobs.gov and search for customer service rep. All service based agencies have some sort of call center. Off the top of my head USCIS (where my buddy works) IRS, USPTO and the Census are where you should look. The only problem, unlike a private sector call center, there is almost no turnover at those places because of easy money, government benefits and telework options.
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