Why "Do What You Love" Is BS

> 1. What if you don't 'love' anything that can be considered a potential career.
Anything can be monetized.


>2. Mixing up 'what you love' with 'work' can taint 'what you love.'
You will still feel better and more motivated than people working with shit that they don't care about.


>3. Sometimes there's just no market for doing 'what you love'.
Your example is really bad. Not only you can be one of the programmers dealing with map software, you can work as a freelance for RPGs (both MMO and pen and paper) and other games. It took me half of a second to think about this, and I don't give a shit about maps.


TL/DR: Do what you love works if you are smart (top 10% percentile is enough).

>>1046848

> Anything can be monetized.

I'm pretty sure once you discount 'making a porno out of it' there are some things that can't practically be monetized unless accompanied by massive fame.

>>1046856
As long as people keep buying stupid shit that they don't need (and this will go on for at least 30 years), you can convince them to buy anything.
Also, sex sells, you have to be retarded to discard that.

>>1046819
Doing what you love is almost never profitable and isn't a smart decision.

But not for the reasons you mentioned. All of your reasons are excuses from someone who doesn't want to succeed.

Everything can be monetized. You choose the recipe for your mix. Making markets (not finance), i.e being the first, is a sure way to make money.

>>1046856
No point in discussing with closed minds. You can go out on the beach and make a sandcastle or you can stay at home and rationalize your failures.

>>1046819
The guy in this video sounds fucking retarded what the hell

>>1046819
Do what you love can be pretty stupid.

Who have I seen every year on my social media around may-june?

Polisci, genderstudies, law, and English major people bitching about no jobs, no internships, grade inflation, etc.

Every fall I see: do what you love. Follow your dreams.

They say do what you love because they love doing easy shit and then wonder why they can't make money with worthless credentials a million others have

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protip: it's really easy to not do what you love when you hate everything

>>1046819
I only love something that can love me back.
I do what I want because of the enjoyment of doing and not because of some necessity of affection.

>>1046819
>If you're still under the delusion of 'do what you love' this video will straighten you the fuck out:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I3OzK-18

This guy loves saying "um" and smacking his lips into the mic

he's a millionaire now

I always want to know:
how much your parents support you, and
whether or not you have to pay rent.

those two items are pretty much the only thing relevant to "pursuing your dream".

>>1047078
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>>1047078
i dont understand
do you mean that someone who has no support and must pay rent is more prone to pursue his goals ?

>>1047101
The only people with the cashflow to sink time into doing what they love and building something with it are those that are subsidized, have social capital, etc. I moved out at 17 and was raised by alcoholics so my dream didn't happen. too busy working to pay rent.

>>1047112
sorry to hear buddy.
what was your dream ?

>>1047121
being a musician

ultimately I really didn't know what I wanted to do and I chose music half way through grade 12. should have gone into engineering, I had the classes for it but I "can be whatever I want to be!"', apparently. So now I'm a tradesman.

>>1046819
You have to read between the lines. He is saying do what you know, and what you can get excited about.

>>1046819

OP is just promoting his youtube channel. I do what I love and it's awesome.

I think you DO want to be somewhat passionate about whatever it is that you pursue as a career. Love might be too heavy of a term, but without genuine modest passion you will be outperformed and unable to cope with the stress of work environment.

Tip for OP: background music is waaay too loud.

If you can do something you love and make money at it you will go far because the work won't wear you down and your passion, energy, and devotion will make you marketable and successful. Not everyone can do what they love though, but for those people it's still important that you do something you can tolerate. When you hate what you do you don't work hard at it, you don't do a good job, and it tears you up over time. That translates into less income and weaker job prospects for the future.

You can't always get a job fapping to chinese cartoons but pretty much everyone has a marketable skill they can do for 8 hours a day without really wanting to kill themselves.

>>1047112
this is very true, most of the time I think how privilege I am to even be considering finding work that aligns with what I love, if I had no support from my family and had to defend entirely for myself I would be working any fucking job just to make ends meet

>>1046819
>Some people would legit rather just sit around the house all day if they could
I am one of these people. I can confirm this as fact.

I'm trying to cope with the fact that I just enjoy doing nothing a hell of a lot more than being productive at some kind of hobby. A good day for me is staying indoors playing video games, or a nice casual hike along quiet woods. I started learning how to play an ocarina because it's easy as shit to carry around, but it's not like I'm gonna be able to do anything money-wise with it.

I just have to hope I make smart investment decisions after working 20 years before i can become happy - via by doing nothing and supporting myself

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>>1046819
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I3OzK-18us&feature=youtu.be
>Playing music over your voice while speaking
opinion discarded. literal subhuman

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I love viking warfare and want to be a viking like my ancestors and kill many christians and die in glorious battle and go to valhalla
You guys think I can turn this into cash?

>following my dreams
>going to get an AA at the end of march
>fashion industry, so only large companies like Kering, LVMH, Gap, etc care about the degree
>resume has absolutely nothing on it in terms of experience, just filled with loads of skills and no proof of real world use

it's not even like there aren't jobs for me
i just have not done shit and therefore cannot prove i am capable

>>1047297
Sell Viking tours with booze to baby boomers and college kids.

>>1046819
The problem is nobody has any incentive to give good career advice, and many people have an incentive to give shitty career advice.

>>1046819
This is true, only weak willed people can't get into something. You don't do what you love, you develop a love for the real world and embrace reality.

>>1046992

This.

It's important to not totally hate what you do, but to 'love' it is just too pie in the sky.

>>1047164

Not OP but I've always had the same problem in iMovie; I'll mix the audio low on the production side, but then when the finished video comes out, music and voice audio will be at the same level.

Tips? Better software to try?

The "problem" is other people decide what is valuble. So the optimal strategy is do what others love.

But the increasingly connected world leads to winner take all economics, where only the best thrives. Usually only someone who likes what their doing will spend the time and effort to become the best.

So "do the thing most loved by others that you can tolerate". Hardly inspirational, but maybe then the problem is seeking inspiration from a "guidance" counselor. That's where their incentives lie. Because when you ask someone for guidance, you really want inspiration. So they are just giving you what you love.

I guess I do what I love but know I must sell out every so often to make sure the dollar keeps coming in. I do find myself thinking more "what will make the most money" rather than "what would I love to do". It has ruined it a bit for me but I can't complain when the income is mostly passive and I could essentially drop my shit now and still have money coming in.

I think "doing what you love" isn't to be taken literally. Following the general direction of the advice, however, will probably lead you to doing something individualistic, something niche, something specialized, which is what will become marketable as we go into the trade economy (or whatever you call it in English) where there's a high degree of division of labour and organic solidarity, and where everyone is their own company.

>>1048296
Not that people "know" this, but it's subliminal, it somehow makes sense for them without them knowing why. Like when you feel empathy with someone who's crying.

>>1046819
Play to your strengths and incorporate your interests into your career.

For instance; you are a good mathematician and enjoy selling stuff and traveling so you study as an engineer and create a business selling water filters to poor african nations.

Or, you have a strength for human interaction and enjoy cycling so you become a biking guide or become a bicycle sales man.

Number 2 is spot on. I actually managed to get some jobs as a music composer and it fucking ruined it for me. Some artistic activities get insufferable when you have to use your creativity for other's needs

>>1047078
This

It's a little bit easier now to try and get a job that would be exclusively reserved for upper class folk in the past (academia, art, and so on), but its still by no means easy. Ascending up the ivory tower is expensive

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which profession is most like professional shitposter?

>>1048438
this is why the economy is fucked, no social mobility. Canada is one of the worst for it due to housing overvaluation. The only people with the mobility to do what they want are people coming from families that are already reasonably well off. So many young people have been priced out of their own housing market.

I don't even bother to read the discussion, there shouldn't be one at all.
Just look up Aaron Clarey. Asshole consultant.
He will provide you the harsh truth and give you reality checks on your ideas.

In case you want a summary:
Don't major in stupid shit, get a decent degree work a stable job and start your own business on the side from your hobby. Be it dancing, fishing whatever the fuck you like. Just have a stable job to support yourself with also in case you fail to fall back on.
Make a business yourself to rely on so you can say fuck you to your boss.

>>1046819
>Suppose you really loved making maps. That might have been viable ages ago, but now that shit is all done, better than you can do it, by satellites and programmers at Google.

Bruh, do you even know what GIS is?

map making is still very viable.

Also forgot to say, be realistic about your thoughts. Be sure that any step towards something is feasible. Do not think with emotions.

>>1047031

Underrated post with the lahey and all

>>1048583
Then don't buy a house

I'm just a dumbass but my gut tells me I'm better off renting for cheaper and building wealth for a few years. Hopefully the housing market crashes.

>>1047326
I feel you

Followed my Passion
>gradded early
>semi-technical (social science, ugh) environment services consulting related
>attained professional designations relatively young
>move for 'good' job with corporation
>take on big projects with multi-company teams
>realize ability to BS and shamelessly self-promote counts more than technical skill
>added bonus: stakeholder opinions hold as much sway as fact
>five full time years in and I've entirely soured to the profession and area of study

Looking up skilled trades and hoping to get laid off to collect severance and EI

>>1046864
>and this will go on for at least 30 years
It will go on for as long as humans exist

>>1046819
You're missing the point. The point of that advice is that if you have no passion for what you're doing, you'll be shit at it. There's a reason the second part is "And love what you do"

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>>1046819
>Why "Do What You Love" Is BS


well, it's bullshit to a degree. you wont even graduate if you dont like the subject you study. if you are really smart you can do whatever you like to. some people are lucky, some people like coding like nothing else for example. most people dont. then it's a really bad idea to try to force you to be a professional coder. it simply wont work, impossibru.

>>1048640
Unfortunately the housing valuation affects rents. I am seeing a downturn in my city though, and since my lease expired I can move with 30 days notice when I find a better place. Not in a position to move right now

>>1046819
>Some people would legit rather just sit around the house all day if they could; see r9k for ample proof of this
And some people get sexually aroused by cockroaches dipped in chocolate. Your point?

>But work is still going to have unpleasant elements regardless--time clocking, shitty schedules, unpleasant coworkers, having to show up at a certain time etc.
>Mixing up your true love with all these compromises might make you hate what you love--like how videogame testers always end up hating the games they test, due to overexposure.
Your dreams can't handle reality? Can't start your own company that does it 'the right way'? Tough shit. And that's not love, that's infatuation.

>Suppose you really loved making maps. That might have been viable ages ago, but now that shit is all done, better than you can do it, by satellites and programmers at Google.
>no work in cartography
I know two cartographers at work. One of them went for the master's degree, the other didn't. They both do what they love. Just because you don't draw that shit w/ pen & paper doesn't mean there aren't things to do. If you're going to come up with bullshit arguments, at least learn your domain.