I don't want to go to college and get a degree in a subject that I don't like just for the money and have to live my life as a cuck for corporate america. Are there any alternatives? Maybe I'm just being reactionary but I can't see how humans were meant to live this way.
You want to escape? Go dig cabbages out of the ground like a Mexican.
The corporate life ain't so bad. You go home and you aren't tired as shit and you have enough money that you can do something you enjoy with your non-destroyed body. You don't have to get a degree in a subject you don't like. I wouldn't ever recommend that someone train for a job they will hate. Find a job you can tolerate for 8 hours a day and do that, then do what you like with the rest of your time.
It sounds like you are at the same point as me.
I have been failing classes because i was so uninterested in the whole thing.
Now I am just getting a degree to have some sort of education attached to my name, then I will reevaluate my life from there, once I am done.
I dunno man. I keep a dream of living like a savage in the wilderness with a tribe of my own, but it'd probably be pretty unpleasant and I don't know how I'd convince anyone to come with anyway.
I mean it's either that or yeah, sell out, give up. Basically just accept that you'll be someone's bitch for the rest of your life, and in exchange you get all this really cool shit, and have infinite time to work on your social game.
Life's a bitch and then you die.
I really really wish there was something else to say.
This. It honestly doesn't seem half bad. People say the "le cubical" memes but there's so many pluses and I'd take it in a moment.
>Decent pay(at least enough to live a reasonable life, not lavish but decent)
>No physical labor
>Most of day can be spent fucking around
>Cozy compared to many other jobs
Honestly there's people working in factories all day earning less, corporate cucking doesn't seem half bad.
mate i want you to know that i would kill to be a cubicuck
just chilling out, making shitty office jokes with guys i don't even like, going home and playing some fucking vidya. i gave up on the world as an adventure a few years ago. i just want a simple, boring routine that doesn't change and pull the fucking rug from under my feet and allows me the disposable income i need to retreat into fiction when the workday is done
I would take physical labor over indoor jobs any day if the pay and resume props was better.
I work part time landscaping and gardening for the wealthy boss of my friend, outside of my 40 hr retail job when I'm on summer break from school. Gives me a chance to go out to the countryside and spend hours outside while still earning money.
In the future literally everybody will be contractors. It's the fucking sharing economy for labor. It probably won't benefit workers much aside from possibly being able to work more from home.
All these are on point. Honestly OP, if you have really excellent ideas and the drive/leadership to pursue them, then do that and you can skip all of the monotony.
Any other method you are going to hear involves a high degree of luck. They will chalk it up to risk, but there is an important difference between risk and luck. You can plan to live a risky life and have it pay off, but you can't bank on being lucky.
In fact, if you talk to most "wageslaves" they will likely say that they prefer their life over those in other situations, and it's not because they're tricked into believing so or that they're in denial. The greatest illusion of the highly successful is making their success look easy. It isn't. If you want the "alternative route", be prepared for a shitload of never ending work
I'd do so much just to be a cubicle cuck.
>Earn enough to save a fair bit in index funds
>Decent, stable job provides everything you need to sustain your crazy business ideas
>Not hard at all
I just want to be a cubicle cuck... $60k/yr is more than enough for me.
Compared to like a million jobs far worse then cubicle shit? Try some factory work or physical labor man. You'll suck a thousand cocks just to get back into your airconditioned office drinking coffee for 40% of the day and reading cat memes
I used to think same as you man. Then I tried a shit job working way harder and making less with no chance of getting out if I didn't have a family.
all these cux rationalizing wasting their lives
do what you're passionate about, it's not like you need to make 100k per year just to live. the thing that you're passionate about is what you'll be most successful at, anyway.
don't think you're going to come home from some horrible corporate soul sucking job and still have enough energy to really live.
Me and my friend have come to a similar conclusion, we started a small business selling homemade drinks at the local street market, it allows us to live with minimal work required and to have plenty of time to work on other entrepreneurial ventures, don't listen to these wage slaves, work smart not hard, just go for it you have plenty of time
Then do it, why the fuck are you complaining online. Buy a cheap pickup truck, take out a loan for gardening equipment! No one is stopping you, my friend. Plus if your white, more people will trust you wont break into there houses
Plenty of jobs out there outside of cubicle land. Ever thought about civil service? I work law enforcement and make decent money, generally avoid the groundhog day problems that office jobs seem to generate.
Someone has to pump oil, build houses, sew clothing, etc....
It's a bit arrogant to think, "well I want to be part of society that consumes all this stuff, but I don't want to take an essential role in the contribution of it all"
>I can't see how humans were meant to live this way.
Unfortunately, unless you were born into money, you need to find a way of obtaining it in order to survive. The surest way to do this is by getting a job.
You should look into Early Retirement Extreme if, like me, you'd rather spend 10 years of your life being a cubeslave instead of the usual 40-50.
What do you guys have against physical labor? There's plenty of jobs where you wear a jumpsuit or gloves that make way more than office jobs and don't require a degree. What's ultimately important is hanging money to play with. And blue collar jobs are in demand.
I don't mean farmlands, I mean skilled labor. If you don't mind eating lunch in a van or getting a little smelly, there's tons of opportunity because society has been pushing college degrees and devaluing white collar jobs.
If I smell like ass 5 days a week, but have no emotional stress, no student debt, and a hefty paycheck every other week, I'm content.
>If I smell like ass 5 days a week, but have no emotional stress, no student debt, and a hefty paycheck every other week, I'm content.
Well thats you. As you have proven, different people have different living taste.
Labor isnt bad, but if you come to a board known to talk about "business" youll read more from white collar than a blue collar from say /out/ because they already have the money they want from their career. Now theyre doing the shit they wanna do which is coincidentally outdoorsy stuff.
I have friends in skilled trade. Plumbers and such. Theyre very well off and invest heavily in their (Dirt bikes and diesel to fuel their lifted f-350s)
I used to be a firefighter and live this lifestyle
white collar work is also demeaning, superficial, horrible for your body, and mires you in petty drama bullshit. basically it detaches you from the realities of doing something useful in favor of some value adding process that is deeply separated from people's needs. It also takes away your masculinity. These white collar bitches at the coffee shop want my dick so bad just because I'm unshaven, have stained jeans but I know what I want and I make it clear because I'm not a white collar pussy.
Cubicle cuck here. I used to work in McDonald's. This job is more mentally challenging but also more slow packed. Good pension. Relatively good pay. Good promotion opportunities. Put about £500 a month into index funds. £200 into a 4% Help to Buy ISA (British thing) and another £200 into peer2business lending every month. Pretty Good senpai
This is the most delusional post I've read all day. The reason they're looking at the greasy guy dressed like a hobo is because he smells like the one time their toilet malfunctioned.
Well it was an example of being a non-managerial corporate slave. Most of my colleagues are ultra-consumerist boomers. I'm frugal as fuck. I keep urging them to buy more stuff because once they stop spending the dividends will stop coming.
They say I'll be working until I'm 75+ or never retire at all, but even if I never get a promotion, with current savings rates, assumed reduced living costs upon retirement and current return on capital, I'll be retired by my 40s easily.
im in a similar position. I dont have a degree, but i managed to work in corporate america. i made around 75k last year in 7 months, saved around 30k of that and took a sabbatical. i went around south east usa sleeping in my car, was amazing. i came back to my girlfriend... which is the only real reason i came back. she is still buying into this corporate work all your life lifestyle. anyways now im sitting here every day wondering what the hell to do with my life. im not a person that stresses or gets anxiety, but this "what the fuck do i do" is pretty overwhelming. specially now that it seems that i should be successful for her rich parents acceptance.... just sucks
>I dunno man. I keep a dream of living like a savage in the wilderness with a tribe of my own, but it'd probably be pretty unpleasant and I don't know how I'd convince anyone to come with anyway.
Then fucking do it man. Learn how to live in the wilderness and then after 5 years or so, teach other people how to do it. Make a youtube channel and get people to do it. Learn wilderness survival. You can do it. It is going to suck, but maybe you could take some courses while working a shitty job.
>Make a youtube channel and get people to do it
this is the big chance and opportunity everyone of us has. not youtube specifically but USING all of these available channels of distribution in order to realize OUR dreams.
blogging was THE SHIT 15 years ago. now it's youtube, streaming, patreon, podcasts, etc etc.
no generation had this much entrepeneurial opportunity in the history of mankind.
Give door to door sales a try!
My twin brother and I are musicians primarily and had a similar time while in college. We were going for engineering but skipping classes and failing everything because we were always doing music and knew we didn't need school (this was weird especially since our parents were both teachers and we were Valedictorian and Salutatorian). After year 1 of college (which was 2 years ago) we sold dish network door to door and I made $25K in 3 months, my bro made $12K. We went back to school the following semester and proceeded to drop out after that semester. Spent a ton of money to invest in our studio setup for producing and becoming "legal" with everything. Produced and EP, working on a life story video, and this past summer we came back as second year reps and managed the sales team. Our office was the #1 office out of about 35 in the United States and I made just over $55K this time in 4.5 months. My twin bro matched that.
We are currently building a fully equipped custom studio and studio apartment. Paid off all student loan debt. Gave back $1000 to the people who are helping us create our video, bought a new car in cash and are making our musical dreams come true. We work on self improvement and are our own bosses, forming our own schedules. This next 4.5 month season we are both shooting to make $100K and have the number 1 office again.
Before sales, we were farm boys in a small Idaho town and I didn't even know what door to door was. If you work hard and stay positive and get out of your comfort zone, you can do almost anything you put your mind to man. I wish you the best of luck and hope you can find your way through this transition phase in the best way. I don't know you from atom and visa versa but man you can do it, I know because I was in the same exact spot as you 2 years ago. I just turned 21 and am only wanting to motivate, inspire and help out. Go with your gut whatever it is you decide and if you have a dream, DO IT!
That is perfect man! I don't have a college degree at all. Just have to be a solid communicator and learn all that the trainers (my twin bro and I) will teach you [you know most of it already] it's - communications 101 & why we say things we do to get people to think a certain way and be presidential with them, genuinely guiding them through a series of thoughts that get them to help themselves and get better equipment at $1500 less over 2 years. If you are a person who embraces positivity, growth, hard work, determination, and goal setting, you will succeed. You just have to make the commitment to yourself that you won't give up at it, it is a learned skill. Just like riding a bike, learning instruments, sports...there is a learning curve. Once you get it down it is almost easy and the more you do it along with growing personally and internally, the more you multiply your abilities to succeed at it. It is like compounding interest at its infancy; to make that decision. Live that way and make the decision to go for it until you succeed. It's a decision that if you go in faith and be your genuine thankful awake alive and on purpose self, you will make it happen and help a lot of people. The best advice I could give you at this point is believe in yourself and don't put your dreams by the wayside. If you know something you're extremely passionate about, you can entrepreneur your way to success doing that thing. Making products, music, art, a business, an idea... use social media to build a following which will enable you to make it bigger than yourself. That is when you start to become fulfilled, you can change other people's lives with your passion and God given gift. You will be living a wealthy life in all aspects. The way I think about it for myself is I am growing constantly and am trying to help spread a way of living more fully. I want to use all of my talents to give back and change the world. Claim Your Dream.