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What's stopping a billionaire from buying a powerball ticket for every combination?

The odds are 1/292,000,000
The jackpot is $900,000,000

Why not just buy 292,000,000 tickets and end up with a $608,000,000 million profit?
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-they won't sell this many tickets to one person
-billionaires count assets not dollars
-billionaires don't buy lottery tickets

this is like asking why lottery winners don't invest their winnings--if they thought that way they'd have spent their money on investments in the first place

I'm amazed how many people care about lotteries and otherwise seemingly smart people that find a means to justify buying into them.
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>end up with a $608,000,000 million profit

Don't you mean $608,000,000 profit? "$608,000,000 million" would be $680,000,000,000,000
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Also tickets are $2. So it would be $584 million.

And you could never pick every combination, it would probably take you weeks to fill out the tickets, so they would have the computer pick.

Computer picks 1000 identical tickets? Your odds just got a lot worse.
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>because the cash payout, net of taxes, is substantially lower than the cost of buying all possible combinations

>because more than one winning ticket can be sold, which would reduce your payout to 1/2, 1/3, 1/4 or even less

Why is /biz/ not smart enough to figure this out? Hurr durr wud tak tu long ti bye tikets.
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>>1034168
you guys do realize there is going to be like 500 different payouts of the same number
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>>1034168
>Standing behind that asshole when you just want a pack of smokes.
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>>1034168
Lottery tax is so high that the billionaire would have to only put on half of those numbers
So risk 250,000,000 to make 250,000,000. Still not bad.

But here is the worst part. What if someone else also had the same numbers? Then you have to split it.
There are better coin flips a billionaire can do that have the same odds.
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>>1034177
>picking random tickets

nah nigga
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>>1034188
>But here is the worst part. What if someone else also had the same numbers?

Did not think of that.

I stand corrected.
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>>1034176
OP on suicide watch
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The $900mil jackpot is payed out over 20 years. You only get $400mil if you want it right away.

However, at least one company tried this, nytimes.com/1992/02/25/us/group-invests-5-million-to-hedge-bets-in-lottery.html
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>>1034180
You're right and all, but Jesus Fuck do you not know how to greentext
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>>1034198
The computer has a statistically higher chance of picking a winning number combination that a person, even if only by a tiny margin
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>>1034168
you think theyd allow that ?

you think a cashier at a 7/11 or ABC store is going to print two hundred and ninety two fucking lottery tickets for a guy?

are you that fucking retarded?
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>>1034389
see >>1034380
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>>1034168
292mil x $2 = 584mil

Spend $584mil to win $608mil BEFORE TAX = $300mil

Great investment buddy
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>>1034384
>tells others how to use 4chan properly
>not a giant faggot
Choose one.
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>>1034409
>doesn't use 4chan
>is a faggot
Choose one.
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>>1034409
Communication is important, you waffle. I only addressed it because you seemed like the kind of intelligent person who would develop better communication skills because of it.

I guess that's twice I was wrong.
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A billionaire OWNS the lottery, they don't play it. Retard.
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>>1034443
>I guess that's twice I was a faggot.
FTFY
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>>1034168

1) there was a tv show where people did this once IRL

2) If multiple people win then the winner must split the winnings
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>>1034168
Cash payout is like 550 MM

to buy every combo = 292*2$
Cash spent is 584

Hmm, I wonder why billionaires don't buy all the lotto combos.
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>>1034180
You'd be able to offset the purchasing expense tax wise. It's never mentioned since usually the expense is $2 and nobody cares.
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>>1034553
>1034553▶
I think i won!
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>>1034186
underrated post
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Same principle applied to roulette.
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>>1034628
What about the zero?
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>>1034168
And how the fuck are you going to check all 292 million to find the one that won? Dumb frog poster .
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>>1034718
>And how the fuck are you going to check all 292 million to find the one that won? Dumb frog poster .


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>>1034718
Lol that would suck
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>>1034723
>someone actually thought this pasta was witty enough to save
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>>1034168
a group did this in a 1992 Virginia lottery. If I recall right they had some hiccups later in the process and didn't quite cover the whole range of combinations but won anyway. You also have to take into account if smaller prizes are subtracted off or if the prize would be shared and the statistical odds.
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Some centuries ago, France was having trouble financing all those wars and shit and they made a lottery. Basically, people could buy government funds, and then one would be picked at random. There were several tiers, some cheaper and some more expensive. The more expensive they were, the less tickets there were and the more money you got if you won.

Voltaire wasn´t poor, but he wasn´t rich either. Same with his friends.

So they piled up money and got some loans and shit, and bought pretty much all the expensive tickets. They kept reinvesting their winnings until they were accused of fraud and arrested.

The judge admitted that they hadn´t done anything wrong and that the whole system hadn´t been properly planned to avoid that kind of shit, so they were released. The lottery was cancelled shortly after, or modified, or whatever.

Thing is, they all got filthy rich.

Just look at that smile.
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5# 25m
4+ powerball 16m
4 .8m
3+ poweball 2m
3 3.5m
2+ poweball 3m
1+ powerball 13m
Powerball 40m
Payout 806m + (78m)
Cost 584m
Net 222m+ (78m)
Profit 300m

Taxes 300*.39 = 117m
Profit 183m

Assuming another winner and split
403m profit + 78m = 481
Cost 584m
Net -103m

Assuming probability of a two way split is 50/50 you're still +80m after taxes
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>>1035665
Err 4+ powerball is 25m

So calculation changes a little more EV.
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>>1034172
>I'm amazed how many people care about lotteries and otherwise seemingly smart people that find a means to justify buying into them.

Some math professors have made money off of lotteries.

Not the Powerball type generally though. They just notice when odds shift favor, like blackjack counting.
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Someone else wins too and you split the winnings getting raped
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>>1034198
>>being on /biz
>>not knowing math
>>calling someone else a nigga
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>>1034186
Kek
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>>1035768
>>1034841

This, you only bet when the odds are in your favor.

https://youtu.be/974Igxkvf34?t=224
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJpnnaksXNM
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>>1035768
>Some math professors have made money off of lotteries.
How do I learn this without dedicating 12+ years of my life learning math
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>>1035879
>you split the winnings getting raped
You meant that the other way around, right?
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