America has the greatest military the world has ever seen. Prove me wrong. Pro-tip, you can't.
all the military of your country couldn't stop this kek
US won the war in the Pacific, the Soviets didn't jump in until it was effectively over. Neither the Americans nor the Soviets could havw bested the Third Reich alone, even with Hitler's shitty strategic meddling. Both the US and Soviet armed forces were remodeled after the German example after the war.
The US won in Grenada, Panama, Korea, and twice in Iraq. Lost Vietnam but the Soviets lost in Afghanistan so that's a wash.
China’s economy is growing at an impressive rate. But it’s not just the size of an economy that matters—it’s also the quality. According to the World Bank, GDP per capita in the US was $53,042 in 2013; in China it was just $6,807. In other words, little of China’s dramatic economic growth is finding its way into the pockets of Chinese consumers—the byproduct of an economy driven by massive state-owned enterprises rather than private industry. China’s headline growth may be higher, but it’s the U.S. economy that’s allowing its citizens to grow along with it.
And crucially, the American economy remains the bedrock of the global financial system. Over 80% of all financial transactions worldwide are conducted in dollars, as are 87% of foreign currency market transactions. As long as the world continues to place such faith in America’s currency and overall economic stability, the U.S. economy remains the one to beat.
Israel. We've won every war. In fact, we've completely annihilated all of our opponents ALL- NOTE THAT - THAT WE SINGLE HANDLED DESTROYED ALL OUR NEIGHBOURS MILITARISES. IN ONE WAR WE DOUBLED THE SIZE OF OUR LITTLE JEWISH HOMELAND. WHAT THE FUCK CAN YOU SHITTY MILITARY DO GAYLORD????!!!
>Pushed Americans out of Korea
>Did the same in Vietnam
>Forcing the U.S. not to recognize Taiwan as a sovereign state
the fact that your country cares more about spending money on military when there isnt even a proper war than education is not a good thing.
if you spent as much on nasa as you do on military you could be on another planet blowing up real sand people
America’s military superiority remains unrivaled—full stop. The US accounts for 37% of global military spending, and spends more than four times what China, the world’s No. 2 spender, does on its military. The U.S. dominates across land, sea, air and space. America’s Middle East misadventures gave the U.S. military a black eye, but the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan speak more to the changing nature of warfare than declining U.S. military superiority. Terrorists and guerilla fighters give conventional military powers fits by design. The U.S. must ultimately learn to scale down to better meet those challenges. Nevertheless, while conventional military strength might not deter terrorists, it still does a terrific job of deterring hostile nations.
The thing about american military is because of their lack of any industrial means to create machines of war via factory, any long drawn out war they would lose as they are no longer self sufficient and rely on offshore foreign countries to creates war materials and machinery. America would lose any long time war on this fact and this fact alone.
Only thing superior about usa military is our budget. But even then our shitty weapons cost twice as much and we are obese fucks and too scared to use them. Face it our military is a overpriced bunch of pansies that can't achieve shit. Putin just showed us up in syria
You're joking right?Of the 9 largest tech companies in the world, 8 are based in the U.S. Give the growing importance of the technology sector, that’s a big deal. For decades America worried about energy dependency, yet today America is the world’s No. 1 producer of oil and natural gas, in large part due to the development of hydraulic fracturing, a product of public research and private energy. America’s research universities and scientific institutions are best in class, allowing the nation to focus its ingenuity where it’s needed most. And America is spending the money to keep its comparative advantage intact: 30% of all research and development dollars are spent in the U.S.
LOL that's ridiculous. Keep watching the lame stream media. If you look at the numbers, the combat losses are exceptionally small. We lose more from accidents and suicides than from actual engagements.
/reference.. was actually over there. Those fuckers can't fight.
BTW OP, you actually are right. The US does have the most powerful, well equipped military currently on the planet. Haters gonna hate, but the fact is, if their military was run less by politicians, and more by military strategists, there wouldn't be a country around they couldn't bowl right over.
Also, the average American junior NCO regardless of mos knows more about tactics, land navigation and is more technically proficient then most countries commissioned officers.
Actually, let me put it more succinctly. If the US ever pulled out of the UN and decided they wanted to be on the level of North Korea in terms of evil, there isn't a country out there that could stop them. Not China, not Russia.
>US won in Korea, and twice in Iraq
top kek m8
Because they were at war with Chinese nationalists until they joined together to beat the Japanese. After that, Mao's forces swept China, KMT got BTFO all the way to Taiwan, and the PRC was formed.
Not quite. The PLA opened a gate in Hanoi, then went back after having proven their point. They were even alpha enough to take Xinjiang from the Muslims. You know, Muslims? Those desert-folk Americans have been getting their asses handed to them by since 2003?
If the US "won" in Korea, how is North Korea still a thing?
There's that quote of a US general regarding his own force's prowess..it's something like "A german panzer is worth 4 of ours. Luckily, we have 5".
>implying the US government would ever be capable of acting against their jewish overseers
No, it's because America learned, as they realized while still fighting, that
>the communists can't be defeated
and neither China NOR the USSR are going to allow North Korea to fall to the imperialist West, despite the souring of Sino-Soviet relations at the time.
Still, the U.S. nearly cost SK by going over the 38th when they shouldn't have.
Probably because most countries don't have economies that are dependent on war.
There is nothing to prove wrong. You guys spend as much money on military as the next ten countries behind you combined. And nine of those are allied with you.
The only real question is: Who are you afraid of, not who is dangerous to you.
No arguments here, OP
>couldn't stop a plane with no knowledge of it being hijacked and it was flying over a major city
>hur dur yer ermy couldn't stop a prane!!! XDDD
also stop samefagging
E5 in the Navy reporting in. China and Russia are pretty advanced but I know there is shit we have they don't.
I'm not like super patriotic or anything and I joined mainly to travel and not have to take out more loans for college, but we're in control of the waters I know that much.
Nice logic, however that goes both ways. The biggest difference here, is that the US has military bases already on that side of the world. Russia doesn't have the logistics to a massive shift in their forces to reach the US, but they are already there. As for nuclear arsenal, suffice to say if it came to that, neither side would win. Mutually Assured Destruction is still operative idea here.
LOL reading comprehension eludes you. Never said I was American. I do work with Allied military forces though, that's all I'll say. You're not terribly intelligent, but you have a decent point. However, you fail at the gist of the entire thread. This is about military power, in case your limited memory has forgotten. America learned quite a bit from their English forefathers, and are very imperialistic. First strike capabilities with forces amassed around the world would make it easy for them to roll over any nation they chose if they decided to say "fuck it" and stop worrying about world opinion, hurting civilians, and political correctness.
Care to try again?
I'll tell you why we haven't wiped those sand monkeys off the planet yet, we are keeping the war up to siphon that good black gold for cheap, then when it runs dry, we bomb them to shit and we leave
They did beat the Japanese, in a united from with the KMT and (to a lesser extent) America. Mao didn't really like Stalin (nor did Stalin like Mao), so Mao's forces alone took care of the remaining KMT, thus ending the Warlord Era.
The communists were organized, whereas the nationalists weren't.
For each hour of flight, the F-35 requires 9-12 man hours of maintenance. Any enemy would just have to outlast.
The US navy conducted wargames with the French navy off the coast of Florida earlier in 2014.
During one simulated engagement, a 30-year-old French submarine "sank" the USS Theodore Roosevelt supercarrier (along with its 90 combat aircraft), then proceeded to "sink" most of the escorting warships, including state-of-the-art cruisers and destroyers.
The US sure likes to throw all of it's eggs into one basket.
They took over the Uygher people back in the 1949... As for Vietnam the Chinese bet that the Vietnamese invasion of Cambodia would draw their forces away from the Chinese border so they they could steamroll and bleed the NVA into capitulation. It failed with heavy casualities because the PLA severely underestimated NVA militias and then ran back to the border with their tail between their legs. As per typical Chinese fashion they tried to play it off to save face. Then Deng cried to the Americans for MFN status to open up their economy.
Wasn't that the simulation where the US wasn't allowed to use a technology that would have made it impossible for the French to compete?
Having trouble trying to remember what the tech was...
I can't disagree about the eggs comment. I'm an.. analyst I guess you could say, on paper and from my work in the field, their funding, level of operation intelligence, size, technological advancement, and logistical capabilities (to name just a few variables), certainly make them extremely dangerous if they had a dramatic regime change and chose to take a route of "evil" super power.
I get a nice chuckle out of all the people who say the US is evil, because they don't understand just how bad it could really get if they were truly oppressive and evil.
It was pretty much a stalemate throughout the japanese occupation. There was n big battle the combined white and red forces engaged with the Japanese as well as very little cooperation. The Nationalists were organized as well as the Communists. Their downfall was Chaing's ineffective leadership which is too complex to describe on /b/.
Read up on your history, people who think the US lost in Vietnam don't know how to do proper research. Just like in Afghanistan, it was a war that the media demonized to ride the wave of current public opinion at the time. They pulled out more due to bureaucracy than to casualties.
I think the doctrine of focusing funding on carriers isn't very wise. In the article I linked previously it states that the Russians considered building carriers, but the weighed up the prices and decided that a carrier could be sunk by a large salvo of s-300 missiles. Considering the fact that for the cost of a carrier they can build nearly a thousand of the missiles we can safely assume that the countermeasures can't take stop all of them from hitting.
>The US navy conducted wargames with the French navy off the coast of Florida earlier in 2014
>off the coast of Florida
And you think the US would actually deploy a supercarrier when there's like 20 military air bases right there?
Fucking morons will grasp at anything I swear
I think that guy's point is it doesn't fucking matter how big america's military is when it can't stop attacks. Isn't that the whole fucking point of military? To defend the country? No in america's case it's to invade for resources like oil.
BTW before you call me some eurofag I'm actually american and an former Marine. Our military is fucking overkill especially when our main threats are not direct attacks.
You havnt been there have you, no doubt their currency has lost value (mainly to oil prices) but russia has one of the largest reserves and also produce domestically. Exchange rate doesn't mean shit if you aren't purchasing foreign currency. No Russians are stock piling thats us propaganda. Do some Research you dumb fuck
war game (plural war games)
(military) A simulation, by whatever means, of a military operation involving two or more opposing forces using rules, data, and procedures designed to depict an actual or assumed real-life situation.
I suggest going to you tube and follow the blog "real russia" to get an idea of the current lives of average Russians. You will be shocked. Your shit hole government has been lying to you
No doubt, and while they have a tendency to spend big and go all out on their vessels or any machinery for that matter, I'd say it's the summation of all parts that makes the US military so powerful. War is not fought completely on the battlefield, but on the ability to feed, house, and keep your military fighting. They have proven they can fight long engagements, their worst enemies are themselves in my opinion. Politicians, liberal media, and a morally divisive populous that often can't or won't think critically. Still, keeping with the theme of the thread, there isn't any one country that could stand against them. Perhaps China and Russia together would stand the greatest chance.
USA LET US TAKE CARE OF ISIS. WE BEEN FIGHTING MUSLIMS FOR 1000S OF YEARS
INDIAN NAVY 2ND BEST IN WORLD BEHIND USA
The entire article is about how Van Riper Pearl Harbor'd BLUFOR before they were able to pull back to their safe engagement range. A rogue state is somehow going to launch a surprise attack while the Navy is sitting in shipping lanes and coordinate this via semaphore? Using the resources and logistics equivalent to Iran's navy? And the entire intelligence community is going to drop the ball about this first strike? Okay. Keep dreaming.
Anyone who's been to the middle east, what's the most shit fighting you've ever seen from a goat herder?
I've heard stories of them putting the AK stock over their shoulder like a rocket launcher and fighting like that.
You sir have no idea. I've not long come back from a holiday there. Trust me no one's stock piling all the shelves are full no one is living in hardship or even cares. But you tell yourself what ever you need to feel superior.
COME TO INDIA PLS ISIS SO WE CAN DESTROY YOU ONCE AND FORALL
actual phaser guns
orbital/sub orbital fighters
a real space marine division
most advanced rocketry on earth...
INDIA > ANY EURO COUNTRY.....INDIA + USA > WORLD
What war have you actually won with this 'war machine'. You start shit you can't finish. Dropping 2 bombs on Japan is all you've done! That's because the u.s can't infantry can't fight for shit. Full of uneducated drop outs
INDIA SOME OF THE BEST PILOTS IN THE WORLD
ANY COUNTRY CAN COMEPETE WITH INDIA OTHER THAN USA? NO
greatest military but not the greatest warriors!!!!! i still kek at the fact at pearl harbor you were taken completely by surprise.......... 2 years into a global war, and all the problems we had with friendly fire during iraq, dude seriously you boys cant even shoot strait
INDIA HAS BEST ENGINEERS IN THE WORLD....FACT
Right about here
Oh and if you wanna count when we anally raped Italy
And while we were fighting in the pacific
INDIA HOME TO THE SMARTEST SCIENTISTS IN WORLD
this old plane pisses all over the multi billion dollar brand new F-22
LOL.....? SILLY BOY . INDIA IS 2ND BEST MILITARY IN THE WORLD....
DO SOME RESEARCH BRO...INDIA MAKES MOST OF THEIR EQUIPMENT...LOL
BEST MUSLIM KILLERS...
PRESENT TO PAKI RATS FROM INDIA
Like the Mirage? and the lightly modified SU-30? and the MiG-29?
I'm on the edge of my seat wondering how long this is gonna go for.
This thread is kekworthy http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing.asp
NICE ARTICLE FROM 2 YEARS AGO.....LOL!! ....DONT BE MAD WE ARE NUMBER 2
Who gives a fuck really. You're dumb enough to vote for government that spends more money on fucking shit up with your military than it spends on its own people. Hilarious! Bring everyone down to the u.s ideology. The gutter trash of the world
I just realized I have been replying to bait. Shit thanks for the call out /b/ro.
Good B8 M8 Seriously. You had me going.
ANY OTHER COMMANDO CAN DO THIS? I DONT THINK SO....., JAI HIND
ITT: NOOBS THAT CANT ACCEPT FACT THAT A COUNTRY (INDIA) THAT IS ONLY FEW YEARS OLD IS MORE POWERFUL THAN ANY OTHER COUNTRY ON EARTH EXCEPT USA.....
Actual fucking kek.
SO FUNNY LOL.....BRITAIN CONTROLLED US FOR SO LONG NOW WE ARE BETTER THAN THEM IN EVERY ASPECT LOL!!!!! DUMB BRITS!!!!!!!!!!!!! JAI HIND
BEST PERSONNEL ON GROUND
there are several other factions that are currentl building up systems of navigation sattelites wich varying progress. the euros are building galileo, the chinese are making their own shit same as the indians.
>india is the 2nd best military in the world
india is a third world shithole with one of the lowest GDP per capitas in the entire world.
1.2 billion population yet their military budget is lower than a country with a 66 mil pop. India is a joke.
MOST ADVANCED SNIPERS IN THE WORLD...
oh look india can copy shit that has already been built somewhere else decades ago.. actually i'm supprised they even managed that
go drink some shitwater from your holy piss river faggot and calm down with those caps
LOL STAY ANGRY YUROPOORS... INDIA IS MOST POWER NATION BEHIND USA HAHAHA
THIRD WORLD SHITHOLE AND STILL MORE POWERFUL THAN UR IRRELEVANT COUNTRY LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MFW NOOBS TRY TALKING BAD ABOUT INDIA...LOL!
Lol... just behind Kenya...
BEST SPECIAL AIRFORCE IN THE WORLD...INDIA
I thought you were making some derogatory remark or insult there, but instead I see that your statement is an indictment of the general American war weariness mentality. In both Vietnam and OIF/OEF. If they decided to stop worrying about combat losses along with all the other things I mentioned... Yeah, that military force would prove even more difficult to defeat that it already is.
CAN ANY OTHER SOLDIER DO THIS LIKE AN INDIAN ELITE? NO
INDIAN ELITES WITH DEAD MUSLIMS LOL
the Germans have the most advanced tanks in the world, american and russian tanks are based on this
USA has literally had friends to help it form as a country. Prussia fought a fucking super power to form Germany, who went on to cuck Europe harder than the sandniggers are doing right now.
Any UK special forces campaign -
Small group of battle-hardened, highly trained double-hard bastards with limited weapons take out a small army.
Most US special forces campaigns -
Small army of teenagers with advanced technology takes out a small group of cattle-herders after first carpet bombing the area with drones
Kek, the maginot line was one of the biggest failures in military history. However, in France's defense, they were going through a power transition/struggle and the Germans were using newer techniques like paratroopers
the best defense force of all time has
>trillions of solders and counting
literally the largest empire in the history of man
WAIT A SEC!? You can't be the greatest there is without pic related.
Like winter was the only reason. Check out what happened with Russians in Winter War.
>Vietnam durr hurr
US 58,300 casualties
North Vietnam and vietcong 444,000 casualties
I want to take the time to explain something to you. The axis powers had conquered all of Europe before US involvement. Churchil and Gaulle both adopted a policy called, get this "Appeasement" hoping if they gave Hitler what he wanted he wanted fuck them up more, which didn't work well for France or England. After Hitler invaded France the military was done for and England's military was severely crippled. England could have continued bombing germany but it's known it wouldn't have had any significant impact. The allies before US came in were badly losing the war the only other helping hand that could stop the axis powers was the Soviet union and it had a non aggression pact signed with Germany.
TL-DR Europe was losing the war to Germany, most of Germany's loses came from Russia but US helped greatly in getting a foothold on europe's soil in france.
It isn't if you compare it historically to armies of their day respective of their power. The Roman legions had no match, Pax Britannia had no match, the US Military on the other hand has contemporaries in China and Russia, they might not be as powerful but they're still a threat.
you know the political party that we tried to fight against in Vietnam is still in power right? that's like fighting against the Nazis and then claiming we won but the Nazis are still in control of Germany
If America/Allies hadn't invaded Italy when they did, Russians would be speaking German today. Hitler was wiping his ass with them. Meanwhile, all of mainland Europe were giving Hitler their traditional military salute... two hands in the air. I can understand Eurofags being embarrassed about what sissies they are, but you don't have to live in a fantasy world about it. Try not to read so many comic books. Get out once in a while.
Debatable, If the allies hadn't invaded italy then hitler wouldn't have moved ctritical resources away from the eastern front which would have been used for a counter attack after kursk, which by all accounts might have succeeded. But the war of attrition would have been lost eventually by Germany.
And don't forget the nuke dropped on hiroshima was intended for berlin
Needless to say without the soviets and americans mainland europe would be speaking german today (that means you too, UK) Hitler was effectively surrounded when we landed in normandy
>The U.S. must ultimately learn to scale down to better meet those challenges. Nevertheless, while conventional military strength might not deter terrorists, it still does a terrific job of deterring hostile nations.
Even then its still possible to pacify a entire region if you stick 500,000 men in there
First of all what he said >>673429330
Second of all, imagine for a minute what the US military would do if they suddenly needed to be in space. They pioneered the technology dumbfuck.
Please get more buttmad though
I don't even like the idea of military-as-a-violence social structure and even I'll admit the US military is impressive stuff. Their command over tech and strategy is world-class
Truth is no one can beat us. I say us because I am a Soldier. We have the most advanced tech in the world that money can develop. We have the best equiped and best trained personnel in any military. Even we fucking POGs can whoop yo ass anywhere anytime. There are fucking Airborne cooks for fucks sake. Jumping with goddamn kitchen equipment.
>There are fucking Airborne cooks for fucks sake. Jumping with goddamn kitchen equipment.
'Murkans gotta eat
We haven't won a damn thing.
>Left Vietnam in shambles because fuck it
>Left the middle east because stupid assfag president
There's 2 examples. We didn't win or lose, we just pulled out.
The Pacific theater was a war between Japan and the U.S. that literally had next to no impact on the European front, not saying we didn't kick their ass but. It didn't win the world war.
Lol, China could have easily been steamrolled if the U.S put a little more into it. China barely recovered from WWII by that time. Getting butthurt over NK just wasn't worth the casualties to take NK because NK didn't even have anything worth taking.
Im in no doubt that England had 0 chance of winning a land battle with germany, they were just too powerful but in order to actually take us they'd need to get to the island first, and while our army was somewhat shitty our navy was far from it, dont forget that were a country built on the idea that you dont need a good army if you sink the fuckers before they can make land
Italy took out a country's entire air force in one day that one time.The US struggled with that shitty little island in the pacific and it took them two nuclear fucking warheads to win. Check and mate, amerifats.