Hello /b/ I'm here to answer your questions about God.

Is God all powerful?

What kind of porn does god watches?

>>673389748
Yes, and I already know the string of questions this will lead in to, haha.

>>673389760
He doesn't do much 'watch porn' as much as he is already aware of every possible type there is.

>>673389812
Is God all knowing?

Also, which religion are you? Gotta have some context before I can slay your world view.

>>673389604
If God knows the future and he created you with free will, and he knows what you are already going to do, then do you really have free will? Also what a dick for creating you with the knowledge of any sins you will do.

>>673389943
I'm not part of a religion.

>>673389966
I do not believe for a single moment that a being which created all things also created free will.

I would equate it to a man programming a machine. The machine can only do a certain amount of tasks, all of which are already known by the man who created it. The machine does not have free will and neither do we. This is my opinion.

>>673390001
ಠ_ಠ

So

Like
Devil's advocate
Orrr

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I always wondered...what's the devil look like?

>>673390157
More or less. I couldn't possibly define what I am in the regard of 'religion' but I do believe things that others would view as impossible.

>>673390175
Not OP, but I've studied the bible for years, and from what we know, Satan/Lucifer is probably hella sexy.

>>673390175
He is defined as 'the most beautiful' angel. Then again, on a biblical level angels are pretty much horrifying.

>>673390175
nice reference /b/ro

>>673390001
Have you heard of deism? Thoughts? It seems reasonable to me.

>>673389604
God is told to be omnipotent. If so:
Can he create a stone so heavy he can't lift it up ? If yes, then he can't lift it up, so he can't do everything.
If no, then he can't create it, so he can't do everything.
What do you say about that ?

>>673389604
Who created god?

>>673390139
With determinism comes a huge dose of who gives a fuck.

It also robs any "god" of agency, thereby disproving any omnipotence they have.

>>673390520
Yes, I have. I have no strong thoughts on the organized beliefs of any man. We all think and feel things much differently from others, in fact all of our collective knowledge comes from others. If you want to try and grasp how I see things it all derives from 'feeling' rather than outside influence. While I draw from biblical reference and use the words as an instrument I would mostly rely on what I feel to guide my moral compass.

>>673390613
I believe you are applying certain laws of strength to a being in which laws mean nothing at all. I'm unable to explain this aspect of God because it is not an aspect which he shares with man. I apologize for not being able to elaborate on this more.

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>>673390848
MFW OP is actually a cool dude

>>673390613
I say an omnipotent God would laugh at your finite community college intro to philosophy attempt to understand it.

How do magnets work

>>673390774
This was a question I was asked by a student of mine a long time ago. Creation is something I do not yet understand, how could anything simply be 'created'. I don't dwell on that thought for very long because it blows my mind. Then you try to think back as far as your mind can, 'pre-God'. There is no such time prior to his existence because he simply 'always' existed. Always is a crude word here since it seems to imply the existence of time. Try to imagine a form of existence in which time has no meaning; God existed during this 'time'. He had no creator.

>>673391072
Strenght doesn't matter. Simply change the question : can he create a being so strong he can't kill it / erase it / make it disappear ?

>>673391426
The best way I can explain this probably will not be enough to satisfy you but I'll try. As men, we can create machines that can destroy us, but what does that make us? We are no less strong or intelligent than what we had been prior to this machine but 'why' would we do this? These are questions which apply to us because we are fallible and imperfect - also we are capable of being destroyed. If God created something which he could not destroy then I suppose it would mean that God is no different than man. I would lean towards him being able to create something incapable of being destroyed but simply not making something like that.

>>673391178
Way too easy answer, you avoid the question. At least you could try...
Just solve this : how can you say he is incomprehensible ? Isn't that a contradiction ? Because what you say is litteraly "I have understood something about god : we can't understand anything about god".

>>673391767
I'm not sure I understand your answer.
What i wrote was kind of a trick to "proove" omnipotence cannot be.
I myself have a solution to this : we ask : "can god create a box so heavy he can't lift it up ?". In our question, god is told to be "a person that can do anything". So, the question actually means "Can he create a thing that has the following caracteristic : a being who can do anything cannot do something with it (lifting it up)". Then it's quite a contradiction, this "thing" cannot exist, like a square circle. It's equivalent to ask "Can god create a square circle ?". And it doesn't proove anything about his strength nor omnipotence...

>>673393459
Gah. Alright. I'll try this again.

I understood the purpose of your question but I don't think it's possible to articulate my answer enough. God 'can' do anything, I believe this. The problem here is that we, as humans with a very mundane form of knowledge are trying to equate our laws to a being like God. We are attempting to apply rules which apply only to us to a being which cannot be understood by any means.

Isaiah 55:8-9New International Version (NIV)

8 “For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways my ways,”
declares the Lord.
9 “As the heavens are higher than the earth,
so are my ways higher than your ways
and my thoughts than your thoughts.

We are literally not on his level of thinking, thus we cannot apply our rules to his own, if he even has any to begin with. It doesn't compute with him like it does with us.

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>>673389604
If "God" is omnibenevolent, why did he make me black?

>>673394193
Why don't you ask him.

Why can't my alphabet soup tell me where to find a girlfriend

>>673394445
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>>673394437
I did, and he didn't even have the balls to answer. Whadda prick.

>>673393905
I understand, thanks for the effort. Then, how can you distinguish between what you can know about him and what you can't ?

>>673389604

What criteria has to be met in order to define a subject/object god?

>>673395207
Another extremely good question.

You can't. It kind of just comes to you I suppose. Biblically, people just received certain answers at seemingly random intervals. Moses who was a total badass had no idea what he would be doing or how exactly he was going to 'know' God.

He also doubted everything God told him, he told God straight up that he wasn't capable of doing what he was told, that he was 'shy' and not a very good speaker. God replied,

The LORD said to him, "Who gave human beings their mouths? Who makes them deaf or mute? Who gives them sight or makes them blind? Is it not I, the LORD?

God seems to present you with situations in which you have an opportunity to learn about him, in this case Moses learned that he was actually able to do practically anything when he understood who it was that made him.

>>673395795
The answer varies, can you elaborate some or provide an example?

>>673389604
Fucking magnets. How do they work?

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>>673395980

In order for us to define something it must have a set of constant characteristics/criteria unique to that definition.

Will I ever be able to over- through heaven when I die

>>673395880
It does make sense.
Since you are disposed to answer, I have other questions. Both of them are really common, but I want to know your answers.
1) How can you believe in such old and unsure sources ? I mean, you quote a book that gathers unbelievable stories which are said to occured a long time ago. If I gave you any other book that has the same feature, you would call it a tissue of lies.
2) Why bad things happen (the usual answer is : "because free will", but since you don't believe in it, i wonder how you explain that).

>>673396907
You're right and I appreciate that you knowingly used the word 'us'. Us, is not by any means applicable to God. God is not 'us' and as I explained before he is not bound by our laws or rules. If he was then it would not make him God. I can explain further or .. if that answer satisfies you I guess. I hope it does, haha.

>>673389604
who am i, btw not my name

>>673397075
1.) I do not believe in everything the Bible says. History is written by those who win wars and by Kings who want to justify whatever sin they fancy at the time. I am fully aware the Bible has been changed many times to suite whoever happened to be ruling. I believe the portions that feel real to me.
2.) Free will does not exist, you're right. .. and why do bad things happen? How would any human understand what God is unless evil existed?

>>673397356
Again, these are ALL my opinions and I am imperfect so my opinions must be taken with a grain of salt.

You are, in Gods eyes an instrument of his will. You exist for no other reason than to provide adoration of and for his works, you being a part of this implies that you are 'fearfully' and 'wonderfully' made. You were designed out of a need to exist, out of love and labor. You are a warden of creation, to protect and guide that which he has created.

If God can do anything, can he make a rock that even he can't lift?

>>673397838
We covered this already bud.

>>673397838
Fucking read the thread before posting. It has already been asked you faggot.

>>673389604
How come God allows things like church shootings or for the congregation to be killed by tornadoes, hurricanes or fires?

>>673397541
Do you read philosophers ? If yes, who do you like ?

>>673398092
God allows these things to happen to everyone, not just his faithful. If bad things only happened to bad people then there would be no purpose for Hell to exist. Bad things happen to everyone.

>>673398114
Marcus Aurelius, Richard Bach, Immanuel Kant, Jesus Christ, Socrates and a few others.

>>673389604
in the infinity of existence we live in a world with a creator, but also in an infinite number of others without.

Schrödinger's Cat
multivers theory

>>673398918
Actually, I'm inclined to agree. God created life but no where does it explicitly state that life was created on earth alone.

>>673399178
wow you are actually one of the cool kind of a believer

>>673397164

We are bound to our laws or rules and in order for us to understand and/or define something it must also be bound to those laws or rules. If it is not bound to them then you can never comprehend it. If you cant comprehend it then you cannot question in order to attain a understanding of it. Any attempt to question and formulate a answer will never be true because it has no relation to the subject/object. So you don't have any answers you are just sharing ideas.

>>673399408
There are a ton of people who think and feel the same way as I do but these questions have never been asked to them. I would imagine when presented with these problems they would respond in a similar fashion so I alone can't take credit for having these philosophies.

>>673389604
>opinions
>opinions not facts
what is the point in debating god if you can't even provide evidence he exists?

>>673389604
Do you guys belive in God?

>>673399532
You're right, the 'answers' I am providing are simply educated ideas that I have organized into coherent thoughts, more or less. It is true that we cannot understand God but we DO share aspects of what he is, such as 'love'. We understand love, we understand kindness, we understand compassion, through these we can scratch the surface of understanding God.

>>673399625
No one is debating here, at least.. not to me. I'm not trying to start a debate either. I just want to share what I believe with anyone curious enough to be interested.

>>673389604
finally a christian that is like jesus a classical philosophy that actually think for himself

>>673389604
"Spiritual" fag here(spiritual for lack of a better word)

I'd like to know on what fields of knowledge you are basing your assumptions to be all knowing about the subject?

What is god? What are the nature of the gods in every polytheistic religions?

What is the nature of reality?

What are your claims concerning the hidden eternal wisdom of the universe?

What makes you think you are in the right position to be starting a thread on this particular section of the internet?

What were your true motivations and intent behind this thread?

What are your particular deep gifts of life?

>>673399846

In order to share an aspect with a subject/object it you have to make a comparison. If you cannot comprehend and understand it you can't compare yourself to it. What is being compared?

The whole purpose of our existence is to love. This is why God created us.

>>673400558
I'd like to know on what fields of knowledge you are basing your assumptions to be all knowing about the subject?

>My knowledge comes from an understanding of what I am incapable of knowing. It is easy to define what you are incapable of knowing by discovering what you are first incapable of knowing. Therefor, I am not all knowing, these are opinions.

What is god? What are the nature of the gods in every polytheistic religions?

>God is the author and perfecter, in few words./ There are many, be specific if you would.

What is the nature of reality?

>I do not know.

What are your claims concerning the hidden eternal wisdom of the universe?

>God does state that there are countless secrets to be discovered. I have no 'claims' about this, it's just an interesting thought to me.

What makes you think you are in the right position to be starting a thread on this particular section of the internet?

>I know enough about the subject to provide some meaningful answers, ironically not to your questions though apparently, haha.

What were your true motivations and intent behind this thread?

>To answer some questions to anyone who had them.

What are your particular deep gifts of life?

>My gifts are no different than yours.

>>673401148
Define love

Also your statement is void of sense

As if you're trying to convince us of something you are barely convinced by spouting out mashed up words you've heard/read from someone without understanding it

Tl;dr your state is void of depth

>>673400991
I stated before that we do share a few aspects with God, love being one of them. For how few aspects we share, it is enough to me at least to convince me that a being in which we would share the singular most meaningful emotion with is worthy of adoration.

Why is it that in the bible, satan only killed like 10 people while god killed over 2 million?

>>673401938
I'm fairly certain that destroying an entire world of darkness does not qualify as doing something evil.

>>673401466
OP of the original questions post

You are full of shit and your lack of understanding is showing so fucking much

You don't "understand" shit because you think you "know" shit

Atleast you tried, but are far from being the right to explain anything

You've got tons of shit yet to fully understand and are pretty far behind and beyond understanding what you are trying to claim

>"The best wisdom is to know that we know nothing"
Straight from the mouth of Socrates

Your "god" is literally laughing at you thru my post

>>673401581

Actually, you in part right. I am simply referring to what people, who have had near death experiences, have said what God told them about life. Really interesting stuff if you start to look into it. I also believe that they are true and accurate and not some sort of a byproduct of a dying brain etc.

>>673402242
If you say so.

>>673401721

You didn't answer my question. What are you comparing yourself against in order to draw a conclusion that you share aspects with it?

>>673402703
I'm not comparing myself against, but 'to' something, in this case a feeling. Humans share very little by comparison to God so using the expression of love is the best I can do. I'm sorry this wasn't a satisfying answer.

>>673402298
Stop walking in other people's footsteps

You are literally claiming their "experiences" without understanding the depth of it thus trying to convince yourself you are some kind of special snowflake

Love is a driving force, love is a catalyst of the soul that helps to evolve and go beyond the veil of ignorance

Love and hate are both same things but at different opposite degrees just like heat and cold, light and darkness and so on

If you fail to understand deeply what is love then you might know better its opposite and therefore try to turn it's components around to see clearly

Hate is destructive
Love is transforming/creative

>>673402642
You're just being overly pretentious with your overly simplistic explainations

Seriously, shed your ego and build your individuality in relationship to the universe

>>673390613
I'd say he is the rock that's trying to be lifted. No different than asking a computer simulation to generate an immovable object, in this case it just depends on who is moving it that makes it seem immovable. God is the operating system and thus the rock is part of his simulation. He's not an entity within the simulation but more the foundation for which the simulation is propagated.

>>673403362
I'm not going to go out of my way to be cryptic with my responses. I'm not going to pretend to be intelligent in a situation where I'm not. I'm not going to deliberately or willfully give you an answer that just sounds good either. Einstein said that if you can't explain something simply then you do not understand it well enough.

It isn't ego. It is a drive to share experience to those who are interested. It also isn't a desire to build individuality but a 'need' to be social with others interested in the same topics.

I'm not being pretentious, I'm being human.

>>673403143

I have no trouble walking in God's footsteps if that is what he wants me to do.

As for love and hate, creativity and destructiviness might be one of their properties, but it's more likely that love, for example, is something much bigger than just creaitivity. Hate is destructive that is true, but many other things can be destructive as well. Hence, I don't really think destructiveness is what hate is fundamentally about.

What would be different if god didn't exist ? (I mean, could the world be like it his without him ?)

Just as a record, i'm:
>>673400558
>>673401581
>>673402242
>>673403143
>>673403362

As my last words before stopping posting ITT, all i have to say is that OP of the thread doesn't know jack shit about what he's trying to claim

You are literally trying to "prove" something here

This "something" is just your ego trying to reach out to others to unconsciously try to prove to yourself that you are somehow "better" than anybody in here

Truth is you are only looking to get your ego stroked and you fail to understand your own claims and points

You're just an arrogant ignorant pretentious guy wasting his time trying to "teach" something that you can't even fathom to understand you fucking sheep

Stop using other people's "experiences" and claims as your own without understanding anything

You really rustle my jimmies hard

>>673404607
You said this already, are you trying to convince everyone here?

In my original post I said these are only opinions. If you don't like the thread then go somewhere else.

>>673390613
This is a logical fallacy ( not OP)
By saying can god create a rock so heavy that he can't life , is supposing that if he acts within the universe. Also, even if he did, that is not a logical question. It's like saying ''can god orange a square " . Just doesn't make sense

Are you creationist? Young earth? accepting of evolution?

Do you believe you have tangible proof of gods existence? (whether personal to you or not)

Do you believe in a certain holy book?
if so do you take its words literally, figuratively, or a mixture of both? How do you know when to take things a certain way?

>>673389966
checked. its not so much that free will ceases to exist because God knows what we will do. He knows everything that we will do, even things we dont do. He knows what road we should take, what road we could take, why we would take the road we shouldnt and knows what will happen to us after we chose a road. all knowing doesnt mean youre always right, just that you know everything. the right and the wrong.

free will /b/ro. He tells us the righteous way of life and then its up to us to choose what we want to do. youre mad for being given knowledge?

>>673406383
Are you creationist? Young earth? accepting of evolution?

>I believe in creation. I accept evolution to come in certain forms, not explicitly how science defines it however.

Do you believe you have tangible proof of gods existence? (whether personal to you or not)

>Nothing tangible, but proof unto myself.

Do you believe in a certain holy book?

>I believe portions of the Bible and portions of the Dead Sea Scrolls.

if so do you take its words literally, figuratively, or a mixture of both? How do you know when to take things a certain way?

>A mixture of both. I never really 'know'. It is more of a feeling, a perception.

>>673390848
>feels god
>duh then god must be real

I guess the psiquiatric conditions people had in the past were actually possesions and had nothing to do with the problems and characteristics of the humand mind. Don't feel bad anon, since the beggining i expected nothing from you other than be a spiritual douche that believes it has some kind of special sense or abstraction and in his egolatry feels like he has someting to teach the world.

Commit suicide and find out if you were right lol

>>673402957

Comparing 'against' something and comparing 'to' something has the same meaning which ever you use depends on the context.

You agree that God can't be comprehended and because of this cannot be defined, questioned and ultimately understood.

Therefore you cannot make a comparison with god in order to draw a conclusion that you share aspects.

The only comparison you are making is with a human who incepted the idea of a God and there imagination of God's aspects.

>>673406890
Is there nothing you feel besides a desire to prove you're more intelligent than anyone around you? I've seen nothing to suggest otherwise.

You have the audacity to suggest I'm being pretentious when you've done nothing but this. I sincerely feel bad for you. You must be a lot of fun at parties.

What's your opinion on God killing children during the Moses story?

>>673407135
You're right. I do not have all of the answers. It's good to have conversation about these things though and I appreciate your input. It's how we all learn.

Do you believe god to be omnipotent, omnipresent, all powerful, and defined by love?

>>673389604
You ca start bu giving us a good definition of what "God" is. Faggot.

>>673407283
While I personally would not have done this I can't begin to understand why this specific act was done when so many different acts would have had the same result with less death. The Pharoh actually killed all the children from the previous generation by drowning them in the Nile river, I could only measure this as an act of revenge but this is just human thinking.

>>673407410
I do not, no.

>>673407477
The author and perfecter.

>>673391767
You're starting to go offrail, retard. I will take it from here, you unsuccessful troll!

>>673391426
Yeah, look, here's the deal, You can't imagine a stone that is at the same time possible to lift but ALSO impossible to lift.

But God can. Because, by definition, he is omnipotent.

So, while paradoxes affect you, they don't affect God. God can create a stone he can;t lift, and can also lift it.

Sound pretty clear to me.

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>>673391072
great answer anon. dont know if youre OP. God is an entity of energy. strenghth and weight as we know it is a trait of the physical world.

>>673391426
God does what needs to be done when it has to be done. that does include negative events too. cant have good without the bad. im sure He can kill/erase any of His creations, but He might have to let it exist for a higher purpose. the fact the He doesnt get rid of it isnt necessarily proof He cant. true power and wisdom is knowing when to use it for the greater purpose

The author and perfecter of what?
8 billion shitty lives, disease, war, famine, death?
poorly designed animals?
a world filled with problems that will never be solved except through the deaths of billions?

>>673407740
Sounds like a poetic and EXTREMELY UNSCIENTIFIC definition. I'm here to get properly informed, not to smoke weed with you.

>>673408121
Then read a book and stop browsing /b/. These are opinions.

>>673407192
i didn't make the thread presuming i have something of value to say. I didn't put myself in the chair of the teacher, trying to educate other people about one of the most ancient and discussed matters of mankind and then say "because i feel". Why do you think you're so special, anon?

I only responded your argument so you can come down to the fucking earth and realize you're not special and you have nothing of value to teach.

The diference between you and me about our egolatry is that you have the need to put yourself above others without provocation. Me on the other hand, enjoy bringing people like you to the ground.

>>673408104
Humans are responsible for some of this, no?

Does anyone here actually like the bulk of humanity? haha.

>>673407329

You have 0 answers that can apply to god. What did you learn from my input?

>>673408437
So then you admit you have nothing to contribute besides your love of destroying other people, I was right. What a dull and meaningless life.

>>673389604
so as i have made sense of revelations, there will be a final battle between satan's followers and God's angels. ultimately it says that satan doesnt have a chance to win, but is stubborn and will still try. if anything is possible with God, does that include satan winning the battle of revelations? i know it sounds fucking insane, but would like to hear your thoughts OP

>>673408347
Oh, here I though you might actually have a falsifiable theory. Unlike Christianity, religions can actually be good. They are still false, but they can be good instead of pure bullshit.

But you are the most steamy pile of bullshit I have ever seen, with intentionally retarded answers.

>>673408601
That there are some good questions I still know nothing about in regards to the answers, of course.

>>673389760
technically He watches all porn. He sees every person's life as it is happening. if anything He watches it live.

>>673408458
three quarters of people without access to drinking water. it is their fault?
2.5 billion going to bed hungry. their fault?
never mind the diseases, accidents, and natural disasters everyday.

>>673409227

treated drinking water i meant

we live to die someday.
we get to know people so we learn lose them someday.
we have holdings to learn we cant keep them forever.

whoever can accept those 3 things can go through life with no problems and will accept everything.

>>673408458
if god is the creator of everything and all powerful the everything he is responsible for

>>673408701
Anything is possible 'through' God. The wording is important here. Satan doesn't seem to understand this, or if he does chooses to remain ignorant of the fact. His goal being to destroy as much as he can or make people feel ignorant enough to deny anything which might suggest they are wrong.

People are like this. When something enters this world they do not understand they choose to either fear or hate it in most cases. Satan chose to hate God simply because he was not 'above' him. As I told the other anon who didn't like my answers he chose to hate me instead of just leaving the thread.

>>673408677
>love of destroying other people
Way to distortion my post. I haven't attacked anyone but you, anon.

I only love to destroy people who believes they're above everyone else. Isn't it more human to bring "prophets" to humility? That's my contribution.

Time to wake up,

>>673390175
Lucifer was the the most beautiful angel created. so much that he thought himself better than God. when he was exiled to earth he became the ugly beast that we have created him to be. if you ever do see him though it will be as the most tempting thing youve ever had in your life.

>>673409227
In the beginning, when man was few so was his problems. We were chosen as the wardens of nature and because we were allowed to do as we pleased this was the result, the end result of making choices without first consulting the being who made us.

>>673409503
>way to distortion my post
>people who believes
come on man re-read your posts after you type them

>>673409503
The love of destroying anything is disturbing. I'm not a prophet either. What can I do for you?

I have absolutely no desire to cause problems. I want to share what I have experienced and what I believe the best way that I can. This isn't about debating, it is about learning which is something I have through this thread. Why don't you try to teach me something instead of attack me?

>>673389604
a good read OP and /b/ros. just add periods

http://www fullmoon nu/articles/art.php?id=tal

>>673409845
whats wrong with it? be explicit pls so i can respond to you

>>673389604
Who is eviller: Satan or God and why?

>>673404607
Cringed

>>673410290
correct grammar would be "way to distort my post" and "people who believe"

not that grammar relevant to your argument but it bothered me

>>673409456
thanks for the proper wording. still though, we make people wicked by making them believe theyre living righteously. blur the lines so much people wont know whats true anymore. satan is stubborn according to the bible. have you thought about the idea that Lucifer is the real hero? everything that is loved and valued is this world is possible because of Lucifer tricking eve into eating the fruit. we have knowldege of right and wrong because of him too.

people fear what they dont understand and hate what they cant conquer. its this that helped me realize time does not truly exist. its a construct that humans created because they didnt understand the passing of days and life.

why did god make black people?

>>673408437
This is high level fedora tipping cringe

>>673409975
Destroy anything is disturbing? You cry when you eat?

This is my way to teach anon, i see we're making progress.

Conflict and destruction is necessary for learning.

You have a question you want to ask? Go ahead. Im not gonna pretend anything i have to say is going to be of valuie to you. The teacher will come when the student is ready.

>>673410740
I get it, sorry, english is not my native lenguaje. Thanks for the correction.

>>673411056
I don't know. I've never felt any destruction from a math test or had any conflict from reading a book.

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>>673410977
Humans need a way to cope with this reality I suppose. Using words like 'time' is a good way to do this.

I do not think Lucifer is the hero here either, given that he had the highest position among angels and thought to himself that it wasn't enough, that he had to be better than what created him. He's kind of a troll.

>>673411185
Then you haven't learned.

Learning means change, and conflict is necessary for change. Similar to exercise, you have to destroy the muscle in order for it to reconstruct stronger, you have to destroy your cosmovision in order to enrich it. If it just stay the same, then you have stoped learning.

>>673411785
I would make a comment on this if I was not absolutely certain you would respond with open aggression and insults like you did before. I'm reading what you are writing though and I do understand it.

>>673408104
of balance and life anon. infinite wisdom merging with infinite potential. we are not meant to understand His plan. which includes death and pain in order for life and pleasure to exist.

the shitty lives is human's fault. we should all work together and make sure everybody in the world has food and shelter. this isnt some fairy tale so that is basically impossible. humans are selfish and prideful by nature. money fucks everything up too.

which poorly designed animals? platypus? you?

if your school teacher were to tell you all the answers and do everything for you will you really learn anything. the problems help us get to perfection. we can never achieve it in this world so there will always be problems and suffering

>>673409227
its not their fault. its the greedy politicians and millionaires who keep people down for population control and a sense of superiority

>>673409642
well said anon

>>673412161
lol, i haven't insulted you once, but here i go.

You're going to be a fucking coward? need to hide under your mighty god gown to talk about what you think?

Expose yourself like im doing faggot and share your idea.

>>673413161
It's not that I can't answer you, it's more like why should I bother? I told you once I'm not here for conflict but instead in the interest of learning and sharing what I believe. You've stated your object here is to 'destroy' and multiple times your posts have been judged as cringeworthy.

It doesn't matter what I say to you. In all your sweaty greatness you just want to argue and debate and cause problems wherever you can. It isn't about learning to you, it's about ensuring people remain on your level.

I may not be above you but that doesn't mean I can't separate myself from your idiocy.

>>673389604
Are u the god-bro i explained existential nihilism to?

>>673409503
instead of destroy those who think theyre above us, see what you can learn from them. anybody who thinks theyre better than someone else is automatically not. if theyre true "prophets" they will already be humble.

>>673409975
we gotta destroy to build something new. its not always something better, but thats life. this is a great discussion.

>>673411056
nice rebuttal with the food. we can give thanks instead of cry. its a way of making that destruction less disturbing i guess.

conflict and destruction is necessary, but we humans tend to take things too personal and lose focus on the learning aspect.

so do you believe in God? do you go to church? used to go?

where you from anon? since english is not your native language

>>673411185
math is dangerous. bombs and machines. Catcher in the Rye made some bastard shoot John Lennon. just some food for thought

>>673411785
another good point with the muscles

>>673389604

Which God are you answering questions about?

>>673413859
If it was in the thread from yesterday, then yes. Feel free to elaborate on it more. I'm reading everything posted.

>>673414091
The one who created everything.

Aren't mutations mistakes?

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>>673414092
Oh it was a month ago i think, you write kind of like he did.

>>673414372
Care to explain it to me? We spoke about a similar topic in the previous thread but I am interested in learning about it.

are humans gods?

we are creators,
we imagine,
we bring our imaginations to life,
we create life in our own image,
we create conciousness in that life,
we are basically immortal through our children,

>>673389604
We've slowly advancing in genetics research to be able to genetically modify the future generations to come. Is altering one's body in accordance to god's plan? Or are we defying God's plan?

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>>673413880
>math is dangerous. bombs and machines. Catcher in the Rye made some bastard shoot John Lennon. just some food for thought
made my evenin

>>673391407
If you postulate a god to solve the problem of the existence of the universe, but your answer to "who created god" is that he always existed, why not just skip a step. Occam's razor says that if God can "always exist" the universe can do the same, for the same reason.

>>673414580
If it is possible then I do not believe we are defying Gods plan as brutal as this may sound.

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>>673414542
I am way too doped up, can't see things clearly in my head, that makes it sort of hard to formulate shit.

>>673414950
Well, I'll make this thread again at a later time. Hope to see you there.

>>673408864

Ok, here is a bit of advice. Next time you create a thread/forum about your interpretation an idea.

Don't express a smug demeanour of certitude and pretend to have all if any answers for that idea. Stating you can answer questions in relation to it implies you have something to teach, but if you don't have anything to teach that is true you perpetuate fallacy.

The worst type of fool is the humble one.

>>673414561
i like that thought.

>>673411673
somewhat. it helps us "understand" this world we live in, but it also makes us slaves to time. my friends are constantly looking at the clock and counting down the minutes they have till work or some bullshit. getting all stressed and shit.

another thing, there is no such thing as right and wrong. theres really only positive and negative polarities. right and wrong was created by humans to help categorize what we should and shouldnt do. drugs are seen as bad because theyre illegal. they have a lot of good characteristics too. they have the ability to be both positive and negative, it just depends on the person taking them.

according to the bible though right? the bible has been rewritten a few times by kings. the jews have the real wording of the old testament that they dont show to non jews. i believe in God/Infinite Creator, but i hate religion. it becomes flawed when humans get a hold of it. i think Lucifer just thought he could do a better job at ruling. im sure a lot of humans think theyre better than their creater too

Does God knows you're doing this? Do you think he likes it?

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>>673415108
i will look for your articulate sprinkles scattered in this pile of shit.

>>673413795
Yeah sure. Keep telling yourself that in your nice sheltered ideology, i mean, /b/ is a safe space right?

>>673413880
I live by this saying "the master will arrive when the student is ready". It hightlight our own responsability about what we learn and about we teach. I tried to teach anon a more humble actitude towards life with my responses, nothing conceptual.

Im from Mexico, as a mexican, i was educated as a catholic, but i never picked up the habit or enjoyment on going to church.

The only phenomena i could call god is nature itself, that moment from the begining and all his developtment. What i mean is that i don't believe in a conscious being named god,

This "god" would tie everything in love, but don't get me wrong, we usually define love by our mothers, you know tenderness, affection, sexuality and such.

To me, love is the never ending violence on wich the universe is always exploding, expanding and transformating. So i don't have a problem with being agressive, that's my way to show love.

Thank you for the thread everyone. It was fun.

>>673413161
That guy is a sham, God as we see it is the natural laws our emotions and desires follow. Its possible to use free will to change these desires, but people who follow monotheistic religions see it as a sin, as immoral, whereas polytheism celebrates new personalities as offspring or events of the gods - making new things respected instead of feared. Religion is a control scheme meant to program humans with specific behaviors, nothing more. Look up the prophet Zoroaster - the first, most pure incarnation of monotheism, look at its beliefs, and look at later version slike christianity and see how it was corrupted by peoples views. Our world switches back and forth between polytheistic beliefs, and monotheistic, this is the nature of human kind.

>>673415217

i spend a week or two microdosing on shrooms, i started to have way off realisations,

this also leads to the question, have we been lied to, from the start, in the most horrific way, are we the pinacle of creation, the top of the pyramid of concious beings, are we the all seeing eye, the capstone of the pyramid, the missing link

>>673414561
we were created in His image. God does not have a physical form though. He is an entity of pure energy. that being said, we too are entities of pure energy, just not as strong and encased in a human body. because of that we believe the laws of this world and it binds us to certain limitations. preventing us from fully being said human gods. well said though anon

>>673414837
If you actually studied philosophy you'd know this is no longer a valid objection. If the universe did not depend on anything to exist, it would mean that it is non-contingent/pure actuality, and it could not and would not still be in a state of potential change.

>>673391407
Same, but I've always thought as human beings we have a beginning and end. IF a god exists that has no beginning nor end then we can't possibly hope to understand a being without any beginning or end, due to the fact that we ourselves are finite beings.

>>673414589
cant tell if you agree or think its rubbish, either way, youre welcome anon.

>>673414950
you chasing the dragon anon? heron. are you talking about angels breeding with humans?

>>673415314
He definitely knows. im sure He likes the aspects of his creations getting together to help each other learn and grow. He might not like the self righteousness and cussing. He still loves us all though

>>673415362
kek

>>673416033

what if our conciousness is god, and a part of this god energy has been captured into these bodies fur us to live and experience, and when we die we return to the source and become a part of what we were forged from once again, it wouldnt make us any less god,

god was created by humans in the image of ourselves, a god who supposedly created us in his image,

it makes sence that humanity is not really the human race, but the race of gods themselves

>protip: Tesla was another Zeus

our potential is limited by the limitations which are placed upon us, in this age there are many

>>673417363

also

which came first, the chicken or the egg

Goodnight

>>673415376
im mexican too anon. from Michoacan. left when i was 2 and never went back though. raised catholic but never really understood it. it was just something i had to do. i did feel a sense of nirvana when i went to church as an adult. it cleared my mind way better than any drug did.

i get the idea of God being in nature. sunrise/sunsets are one of the most beautiful things you can see and its free. nature in its own sense is a conscious being.

God is love. ultimately thats why i believe we were created. to experience and create love. thats your type of aggressive destructive love and my kind of love where you put other people's happiness before your own.

technically God is the only master. any other "masters" are just really wise people with some flawed information. all infomation on this world is flawed. humans cant be perfect. so when youre ready anon, God will arrive to you

>>673415945
you have detached yourself from this physical realm beautifully anon. how much shrooms you take a day? i read microdosing lsd is about 10ug or less.

the best way to enslave someone is to make them believe they are free. we were created for so much more greatness, but money and materialistic "possessions" have made us believe something is important when it isnt. you should google "above top secret hidden hand" for a good read. its some elite Illuminati bloodline member answering questions. talks about what your wrote

>>673416232

Im not who you are replying to btw, I just wanted to ask you a question. Do you think one state changes into a new seperate state creating two seperate states? Or just one state that changes between it's mutliple forms.

>>673418425
Im from Sinaloa. Were are you now? USA?

Your kind of love is how you mother teached you, anon. Pretty, necessary, but fails to connect all the organic and inorganic relations to each other.

Humans can't be perfect because the concept of perfection is a human concept to denote how close you're to what the world expects from you. The perfect being is the one who can fulfill all those expectations and can be called "the ideal self". Of course, this is imposible, we can't fulfill every expectation society put upon us, but still, we try.

The only reason because perfection exist, is because we have created it to never reach it.

How can I get to know God?

>>673418425
Haha that's the dumbest shit ever. God created Lucifer, he knows he will betray him, Lucifer is bad to be the bad guy/ultimate boogeyman so people are nice. God gives Adam and eve the "gift" of knowledge so they can possibly suffer in hell. God has a failed experiment named lilith which is the first woman, who refuses to be subservient to Adam and goes and fucks demons. With all God's infinite power he tells her to return to Eden or he'll kill her half demon children. She doesn't so he keeps murdering kids.
Also here's another awesome point for you to straw man, if God wants people to love, why did everyone before Jesus get condemned to hell? There's basically no possibly way to not have gone to hell according to the list of mortal sins.

Man I'm an idiot. God really must love us.

>>673417363
youre thinking of the soul anon. power of threes. we have positive polarity, negative polarity and the soul encased in the human body. when we die, the soul goes back to God and depending on your beliefs, you either chill with God till revelations happens, go to hell or get reincarnated.

our potential is limited by what we have been told is our limitations. we would have to have complete knowledge of how the universe works and then know we can connect with the universe to manipulate things to our doing. i like the idea of us being race of gods. you should read the Illuminati member article too anon. talks about what you wrote about. see>>673419014

>>673419014
Hahaha holy shit. You do a bunch of drugs and have delusions. Now your too unmotivated to do anything with your life besides work at McDonald's because material possessions are like...bad man. Lmao you're the best slave of all. So subservient.

>>673390157
Agnostic, I believe is the term you're looking for.

>>673391360
Miracles.

>>673419573
go to Him and always have faith. read the bible but dont take things for face value. book of Job is a good place to start. that bastard was the closest a human got to being perfect. meditate or do some drugs(weed/psychedelics) to get you away from earthly possessions. He wants to have a friendship with you anon. dont just recite prayers like a robot. think of Him like a psychologist. there to mainly listen and help you make your own choices

>>673420487
"Agnostic theist"

vs

"agnostic"

he would be an "agnostic Theist"

>>673420191
i do mad drugs, but i had delusions before i did any. currently sniffing meth. took some acid yesterday too. ive been unmotivated my whole life because i never felt i belonged here. i didnt even think people were real. they only existed so that i would believe i lived in a world full of people. i work front desk at a hotel and get paid 18/hr. i have a lot of material possessions but they dont bring me joy like some good bud and good music.

“The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.” Albert Camus

i was raised by TV so i am some for of slave. knowing it will help me break the chains though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7uFynCbDxo

>>673419349
in the US. CA

my parents werent really affectionate as a kid. they were always working. i learned that kind of love from reading the bible high and heated arguments while praying. what do you mean inorganic relations?

perfect to me is God and Job from the bible a close second. nothing to do with human ideas of perfection. a nice house, fancy car, steady job, loving wife, healthy toned body and nice clothes is nothing close to being perfect.

all of our trials and tribulations happen to help us become perfect. almost all problems are blessings in disguise. we can never be perfect in the physical form so we will always suffer. everyday alive is a good day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gt4D6RIKbMM

I have one big question, need to be answered, because I can't answer it myself:

Where is god and where does he come from? How can I imagine him?