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>>673357431 "this is how wish.com are advertising their plus sized shorts. WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND THINKS THIS IS OKAY? Why would you even think of something like that? The only thing they're going to achieve from this, is driving a tonne of customers away. This is absolutely disgusting,"
>>673358929 i don't understand your arguments. all of those pictures have valid points. by posting those retarded comments, are you trying to undermine them, or are you trying to point out how extremism can ruin an otherwise fine statement?
>>673358991 >>673359044 My cousin does this and he puts #depressionhurts in his facebook posts. It pisses me off to no end. Maybe it's because I never talk about my problems or bring attention to them, but going 'oh woe is me I hurt so much guys!' just sounds like riding the depression bandwagon that seems to have popped up recently.
-a woman that pretty would not be so interested in a phone. -a statue/painting can not be vain, a person can. -any person more interested in taking pictures than having pride in themselves, is by definition vain.
-knight hamburger, ways of making context seem like fact to the ignorant...the core of feminist logic
>>673360232 because no matter what you have to say about anything people are going to disregard it. Some people can deal with it, feminists cant. So it seems like feminists and women in general are being disregarded, when in fact they just cant come to terms with the fact that people can disagree with them.
>>673360657 I get mad when someone uses "the media" as their example, as if the entire media is that way. When actually it's only a tiny portion of the media. I don't give 2 shits about the article or how it portays woman.
>>673360998 >>all dese poor oppressed middle class white women >>truly their struggle is the hardest of all >>673361018 This. The people who hate women the most are other women. Listening to a girl bitch about her 'best friend' is tiresome.
>>673360745 that is simply not true. this thread is the perfect example. i ask actually serious questions and get disregarded as troll or bait, just because my views don't correlate with most feminist haters.
you know, there is good feminism too? the feminism that actually fights for equality? most feminists won't call themselves feminists and they aren't just nitpicking stupid stuff and feel oppressed all the time. i wouldn't say there is "patriarchy", but there are sometimes patriarchal structures in businesses, the media and social norms. raising awareness for this isn't condemnable, like it isn't condemnable to point out disadvantages for men in society.
feminist haters are the same as feminists and they don't even realize it.
>>673361229 My EX every fucking time we went to the bar would sit there bitching about how girls dressed. their shoes were to slutty, those pants were not torn enough to look worn.
She would sit there ripping apart other women for 3 hours straight, then fake smile and say hi to them and start a conversation, and when they get drunk they start bitching about the criticism they receive from men.
I'm at a loss for words half the time. You don't even need a crazy feminist to see this behavior from women.
>>673359941 That's because the majority of our history was driven by men. Women were involved too, they just didn't have positions of power. This is pretty universal throughout all of human history, not just white westerners.
>>673360840 An African empire known as the Dahomey were responsible for trading a large amount of slaves. They took slaves from when they conquered new lands and sold them to whoever would buy in order to fund more and more wars.
Women are so toxic to each other its unreal. My first love many moons ago. these girls grew up with each other 0 - 19 then I met my GF and the BFF
All going great bond with her BFF, because they where like sisters , apparently she thought I liked friend too much - My Gf provides to tell me, shes a slut because her father raped her, Blew my mind because Told the BFF of the be trail
>>673361955 >The problem is that most of us understand a woman's privileged place in our society.
what the actual fuck. are you counting? measuring the inequalities and justifying one evil by pointing out another doesn't fucking work. there should be no inequalities, at least not in the current form.
your argument just proved that you are a part of the fucking problem
>>673361123 Black feminists are the funniest shit. >"YALL IS WRONG AND BAD" >uh I'm not >"NAH FUCK YOU YALL IS WHITE AND RACIST FOR DISAGREEING" >well sorry miss >"MOFUCKIN STUPID HONKEY BITCH ASS CRACKA FAGGOT" >"EKWIL RIGHTS AND RESPEKT YALL"
>>673361355 My statement was true, and your right this thread is a perfect example. This is /b/, people here will disagree with you just to get a rise out of you. even if they agree with you in reality. You can not come to a place where people purposefully act like idiots and assholes and be surprised when they disagree with your ideas or tell you to fuck off.
There is good feminism out there for sure, but i honestly dont believe it to be in North America, where women are far more protected by the law then men.
Feminists haters are not the same as feminists. As a feminist hater myself i can safely say that i dont hate women, or any women who is being looked down on just for having a vagina, what i hate are women you feel the need to prove women are better then men all the while demanding they be treated as well as men. Some feminists how ever hate men just because we have dicks and are willing to work our asses off to get what we want instead of whining till its given to us, which im not saying all women do, but enough do to make it a stereotype
>>673360838 Not defending that idiotic post but I think it's from a newspaper. Probably the Sun or Star. Both are absolute dog-shit for news, and all their content is aimed at horny, lonely truck drivers and chavs. Basically guys that aren't nerds, but who still struggle to get women anyway.
>>673357081 By the "not all men" logic getting on public transport with a muslim is a perfectly safe game to play. Sure some of them are going to blow the fuck out of you and all the innocent people around you... but not all of them.
>>673362556 Not at all, but the majority of people who talk about it aren't depressed. It's a 'I've been single for two whole weeks!' kind of depressed, not that girl who doesn't talk to anyone because she hates herself and her life.
>>673362542 finally a decent answer. as a yurofag i always considered this to be far more problematic in the usa, i guess that might explain some people's extreme view on the topic. interestingly i agree with all of your points but i would still consider myself more pro feminism than contra. maybe that really comes down to me growing up where i did.
>>673359487 I can so confirm. >department section head is stronk wymon >the women who work for her have told me they'd quit if she ever becomes department head >tfw when I'll be the department head in about 4 years when my boss retires so I don't lose some really outstanding employees
>>673362145 I just don't understand. Why would anyone want to purposefully be as fat as possible? How does this strike back at society at all? What pleasure does one gain from resigning to a slow and painful death at a relatively young age? What the absolute fuck?
>>673360840 >kidnapped by whites This just disgusts me. Black Americans, and people of African descent claiming pride in their culture and heritage, yet love to paint the picture of white colonials going out into the jungles along the Ivory Coast and dragging tribesmen back to their boats like animals.
It just didn't happen that way. A larger tribe in modern day Niger would conquer surrounding villages, enslaving the losing tribes in their local dominance struggle. When the Europeans came they did what they did in India, China, the Americas and all the corners of the globe they visited. They asked to trade. The African Tribes brought forth ivory, salt, and of course their slaves. We bought blacks from other blacks, and traded them around.
>>673362396 Name one right that men have and women don't in the western world
I can name a few that women do have and men don't: Right to genital integrity(No genital mutilation aka circumcision for women) All the reproductive rights(Women can choose to use contraceptives, abort the baby, give the baby away, or keep the baby and force the father to give them money. Men can use a condom, and if that fails, either by them not using one, or if the condom is broken, they have NO rights)
Also women have the privilege of being less than 10% of workplace fatalities Being less than 3% of combat fatalities Being less than 20% of suicide victims Being less than 35% of homicide victims Being less likely to get jail raped Being 85% of winning custody cases Wage gap is bullshit and only accounts for men vs women overall, without taking into account the amount of work both genders do, their occupation etc.
>>673362039 Seems like pretty good representation of every crime too.
If 25% of women will be raped in their life, I'd say most rapists are repeat offenders. Let's say 4 victims per rapist over their lives, that's like 1.1 million rapists in the general population. So call it 1% of the US population will be serial rapists. That's not all men in my book of numbers I just pulled out of my ass.
>>673362749 It's a very real thing, many soldiers who watch their friends die get it. Maybe you should focus more on the cunts misappropriating real things for their agenda. Like the term "rape culture", which was originally coined in a documentary about male rape in prison.
>>673363388 I don't so much mind when blacks whine about slavery. I fucking hate it when they act like they were the only people ever enslaved. They act like no one has ever taken a white person as a slave, or an Asian person. Just proves that blacks are such sociopaths that they literally ignore all of history up to the point that where they started getting enslaved.
in literally every job i had, girls were sexually harassed to a varying degree. sometimes it was limited to sexist remarks, other times it was far more severe. but it always happened. also, in my time in human resources management, i saw far too many men not even consider women for a job because of their looks. don't get me wrong, none of the women that applied were exceptionally ugly, but the good looking women were always preferred. while the female colleagues actually looked for personal skills, my male colleagues just went for the looks.
i could continue, but i'm going to the gym now. maybe you should too, there are fine girls there.
>>673363577 Ok, soldiers getting it, I can understand. But people who survived natural disasters like the Titanic shouldn't feel guilty. Especially when the social stigmas at the time insisted the women be saved over the men
>>673358827 I fucking hate is. And it's not just for feminists, I've seen a lot of you doing it to. Like you don't have other choice than to put up a mask. Fucking pussies. You are hurting and want people to know? FUCKING TELL THEM Faggots
Go here http://aliens-420.tumblr.com/ Have fun reading her hypocritical lies. I used to know this girl. Nothing was wrong with her mental health (besides being a vegan) until she found feminism. Now she is afraid to go out in society and thinks she is mentally ill so she deserves disability. She used to take nudes and booty dance for tumblr, but now she claims she has no sexual preference and is not and never was a sexual person. Here is a nude of her
>>673363683 It goes much more than that. You get people who feel personally responsible for acts that happened in the past, even hundreds of years ago. Like a White person crying about native american genocide. Sure it's a dark point in American history, and Canadian history as well what with the residential schools and all, but it's not the average White person's burden to bear. It's not only stupid but it's also arrogant.
>>673358827 Because they enable each other to do so. North America is becoming one big school guidance counselor's office and the people doing the counseling are the same people who subscribe to it. In this day and age "women" think they're measured by how hard and injust their life is. Is someone else a lesbian besides you? Is your snowflake visage being smeared by the presence and notion that you're not unique? Create a new sex, gender, or what have you. Instigate irrelevant social issues to make people perceive you as an entitled survivor and compliment your esoteric and redundant struggle. I miss the old days, anon.
>>673364181 I used to fuck around with a girl that had the same phone case. She said she wasn't ready for a relationship. 2 weeks later she started dating some annoying dude while I was in the hospital.
>>673364493 My mom is native and I have to tell my roommate that he isn't responsible for anything. He has a massive White-guilt complex and it's incredibly frustrating. There are also others who have this romanticized vision of what natives are really like but have never lived with them.
Spoiler: I'm part native and I fucking hate native people. Some are fine but the majority aren't worth pissing on if they were on fire.
>>673364030 Not weighing two evils against eachother. There is no "evil" against women, at least on a societal level. All "evil" against women is on a personal level, whereas men are in a less optimal situation enforced by the fucking government.
"Oh, you were raped by a person, who committed a crime, was charged and put to jail, but this man is forced to give money to someone he doesn't even know for 18 years because they had sex, and the woman wanted to keep the kid, and if he doesn't, he goes to jail too."
>>673364002 Honestly, when I was going through the roughest part of my depression, I honestly couldn't. I needed to be happy for other. I don't know why, but I had to. Once i got a little bit better did my walls break piece by piece. Is it not good, yes, but it's how my brain thought and at teh time it was the one thing i could control.
>>673364848 Native what? Native Canadians suck because they're all alcoholics with no education. Native Americans (the ones who live on reservations) not the ones that work at casinos, are awesome. Usually full of wisdom and how this situation reminds them of an old ancient tale. I'm around 20% Cherokee.
>>673357081 If the chambers in this metaphor are men, the bullet must be a rapist. What is Russian roulette? Life? Do you deliberately antagonise men to see if they are rapists like you deliberately pull the trigger to see if that chamber is empty? If so maybe you deserve it you stupid fuck, stop playing with. Stupid fucking metaphor makes no sense.
>>673365366 The point isn't about hating a race, it's about White people idealizing natives. They can't, or won't, separate their own fiction from the truth. Either that or they don't want to be called racist for conceding that other races can be horrible pricks too. >>673365394 Canadian.
>>673365394 Sure you are, and i can tell you havent really been on american reservations. Most of them a meth addicted or alcoholics. Some are fine, but there is a reason the chiefs are petitioning the us government for funds to help combat the meth epidemic they are having. https://www.drugabuse.gov/about-nida/noras-blog/2014/09/substance-use-in-american-indian-youth-worse-than-we-thought
>>673366050 >the Chiefs are petitioning As in they are doing something about the idiots that take advantage. So Therefor the people in charge are good? Woah! The meth thing is in Arizona and the surrounding states. I am in Illinois/Wisconsin reservation peramiters. We're all just potheads.
>>673366050 That's basically how you can tell if a person has never lived among natives. They conveniently ignore all the problems with native people and their communities and blame it all on racism. There is racism for sure, but it's also with shitty people doing shitty things to each other.
Of the more than 2,200 passengers and crew aboard the Titanic, just over 700 survived, including 316 of the 425 women and 56 of 109 children. Even if every woman and child had been accommodated in the lifeboats, there still would have been enough room for nearly 700 of the 1,690 men, yet only 338 men survived.Jun 16, 2009
>>673365125 So you contradict your brain and do it anyway. That's the "not being a pussy" part. I'm not talking out of my ass, I've been through hell in my life at times, but always had clear in my head that I wasn't a pussy. There's an awful lot of strenght in admitting weakness
>>673367139 oh I know, i'm just saying people handle it differently. I was also in a place i was not safely allowed to express those emotions (apprently expressing suicidal thoughts at 13 means i should be locked up). That being said, i'm now 20 and i'm a lot better and more mature. its more teenagers who don't understand their own emotions that get caught up in this cycle.
>>673367521 she looks like the typical roadie, band whore, local fuck slut. you know the girls, the ones that fuck every guy in the band and have alternative interests like motorbike riding and guys with tatts and beards.
>>673364653 >North America is becoming one big school guidance counselor's office and the people doing the counseling are the same people who subscribe to it. This. I left counseling to go into business. Counselors should be neutral, as in, supportive but critical. Apparently the (mostly female and gay) liberal extremist counselors didn't get the memo and never call patients out for their bullshit. I consider myself liberal and empathetic but it reaches a point where you want to tell a middle-class teen girl that her bullshit is the problem, nothing else. Her depression is a fad, her being bored is an issue with her just being boring, and yeah her friends are going to slut shame her because women slut shame. This is shit her mom should have taught her
>>673367890 No. She was more of the "I hang out with all the band members, get them all to want to fuck me, then friend zone all of them." Her alternate interests were playing PlayStation, and watching movies. I honestly don't know how she's not fat. Even tho she's vegan, she still only leaves the house probably 1 time a month besides to get weed.
>>673361355 I'm sorry to tell you this buddy but the reason you guys aren't taken seriously is that you don't realize all the advantages women have in Modern western society, they are protected in every sense of the word. And despite all these protections men still come out on top. The sad fact is that while most men and women aren't sexist. nature is sexist and nature says men are better than women.
>>673368844 Well, of course. You could put that on tumblr and get it spread around, and its just meant to be some dumb humor. Wouldn't stop some idiot from taking it seriously and supporting it because of feminism.
>>673360232 >these sound to me like people who just want to stop being objectified, feel safe and not have their opinion disregarded because they are women. Because that is EXACTLY how men have ALWAYS been treated: entirely disposable and judged entirely on their ability to support others.
Women have it fucking easy and always have, now they have it even fucking easier. Yet they still fucking complain. 3DPD are fucking scum. When was the last time hundreds of thousands of young women were forced to die in war due to their role as being cannon fodder? Yeah, didn't fucking thing so.
>>673368750 Holy hell. I live in a reservation perimeter. This is an area in which many natives live. If you lived in this area you would understand that we treat Wisconsin like its Illinois. We are so close to the state boarder it's pointless. Yes there is no reservations in Illinois but we drive 5 minutes north and there is.
>>673360232 What is bad about this is that these are people who feel objectified if a male even looks at them, only feel safe in a warm box wrapped in fluffy blankets that insulate them from opposing points of view, and feel their opinions are disregarded when anyone dares simply disagree with them.
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