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>>666343988 Im assuming this is just you saying but not saying "kill yourself" but ill answer anyways, its terrible when it happens. I've been close to doing it before i started transitioning and im really happy my friend talked me out of it. >>666344163 blue pills are estrogen pills
>>666344369 yep, thankfully most people are smart enough to realize how retarded they are >>666344539 not really, i guess i could possibly see genderfluid being an actual thing, wanting to be a boy one day and a girl the next, but in the end if someones going through that they kinda have to choose.
>>666345050 No, and i think that's very fucked up to do tbh. Maybe it isn't first date conversation material but definitely gotta tell any bf/gf about it early on. >>666345074 I think I'm rather good looking, not gonna post a pic here because, well, that's a retarded idea to do on /b/. Also idk, i guess so? >>666345449 happily taken and not in the UK so no >>666345502 nope, not planning on getting SRS with where it's at now, dont hate my dick enough to replace it with what is pretty much a glorified open wound. >>666345522 this isnt OP >>666345623 yep, that sure hurt my feelings anon
>>666342125 I had a scarier suggestion than killing yourself. Be yourself your true self that nature made you. Celebrate your manhood without being ashamed. You can still be sensitive and not pretend to be a woman.
>>666346482 If there was a vote for "Lynch all the trans people" I would take the day off to go vote I've been forced to be around a trans person for a number of years, and I try my best to ignore him, mind my own business and let him do the same, but he's just in "attack and asset myself mode" 24/7 and seems to have no comprehension the intense level of stress it causes for those around him
>>666347400 Better than living a lie and forcing your body to be something it is not. Why don't you care for your body? You may kill yourself even if you get all your wishes granted. The hormones you pump into your body will cause mental instability and when your body fights back against the hormones you will become inconsolably depressed as you become some hybrid heshe thing. Stay natural. You were made this way for a reason not to reject it.
>>666347477 sorry to hear you were around a prick for all that time. but one example isnt all of us >>666347510 dont use kik anymore >>666347523 highly doubt thatll happen tbh, but even if it somehow did, i wouldve had 10 more actually happy years than not, so ill take it >>666347804 Early teens, although i hated myself for it because of a highly christian upbringing. Finally started to accept myself for who i was around 18 >>666347899 Sorry to hear that anon, ive seen some miracles though, so dont think youre without hope
>>666348442 Careful it is not a matter of opinion. This is based on chemistry and science and case precedent. You feel happy now but like hard drug use tolerance will lead to a plateau. Once you reach this plateau the ride will not be this fun. Also, I know this is /b/ but my only opinion is to stay natural and love yourself without screwing up your body chemistry and hormone levels.
>>666344539 Nope. Just two. Listen to everyone and you will understand. >There are people who identify as their gender. >There are people who identify as the opposite gender. >There are people who can't decide which one of the two genders they wish to be that day. >There are people who clearly define as one gender one day, and another the next.
What doesn't change in all of this? People are still choosing between two genders. Transfolk are confused because they think their gender is special and different, even though they are still trying to choose from the same pool as everyone else. What "really" makes a person trans is their inability to solidly identify with an assigned gender, and instead they identify with a choice they have made in a false or impossible gender identification. There are only two genders, and you are born one or the other. Own up to it, or admit that your "choice" is what drives you, not some false gender identification you created to make yourself feel special.
>>666345910 >ope, not planning on getting SRS with where it's at now >where it's at now
What are you expecting/waiting for? That's the best its ever going to get, has been for the last 30 years.
>yep, that sure hurt my feelings anon I don't care about your feelings, I care about your psyche. Have you ever battled with the idea of accepting the male you are instead of creating a false feminine persona as a stand in for your true self? You do realize the path you are taking has only one final destination?
>>666351361 well its a long distance thing, we've met up once for a date but didnt do anything, probably gonna happen next time he's in town tbh >>666351378 meh, ignored it because its just us going back and forth saying the same thing typed slightly differently, so i got bored with it.
>>666351288 >im curious as to why you care so much? Care may be a strong word
The trans phenomenon, unlike homosexuality, is not rooted in the historical record and is a recent social development parallel to that of autism.
This is an anonymous forum where I can engage with one of you openly, might as well use the opportunity to gather more about it
>meh, ignored it because its just us going back and forth saying the same thing typed slightly differently, so i got bored with it. ...What do you mean? I'm asking you a straight forward question, an honest response would be nice. Why dismiss it as a circular discussion before it has even begun?
>>666352976 he isnt lol, he's in the military, has a thing for collecting guns, is pretty muscular, and i said that he doesnt push anything sexually, as in he respects boundaries and stuff, not that he doesnt do anything sexual
>>666352554 >i think its more recent because people are less likely to be murdered for doing it nowadays Ok, not really what I asked...
What are you talking about? Are you trying to say trans isn't a new development? We literally have no history of it ever occurring before. Even homosexuality, which was shunned to the point of complete denial for centuries, survived in the empirical record. These closet you get for trans are ancient gods that could turn back and forth between genders.
Whats the point in denying this is a new thing? Does it make you feel more validated in your belief?
>>666353692 >Are you trying to say trans isn't a new development? yep >We literally have no history of it ever occurring before. there have been quite a few gay cross-dressers in history. they were probably trans. i have a hard time believing that it could be a new thing
I used to be the derogatory societal term dubbed male. About 2 years ago, I realized this was just a form of oppression forced upon us by birth. Although, I do like my penis, yet I wanted female genitalia. So I converted my ass hole to a hybrid pee - ass hole. Very convenient, since I can get fucked in the ass and the pussy at the same time whilst jacking myself off and licking my breasts implants. What are some of your unique experiences as a Trans?
>>666354405 >there have been quite a few gay cross-dressers in history. they were probably trans. There it is, 'probably'. And none of those gay cross dressers said anything about being a woman trapped in a man's body or vice versa
We have records of everything, from schizo to phobias, since ancient history. The trans movement is new and has never existed before. Its fact, there is no evidence
Again I will ask, why do you need/want it to be old?
>>666358604 >We have records of everything, from schizo to phobias, since ancient history no, what we have is "most likely". and like i said earlier, saying youre a man trapped in a womens body would probably have been a death sentence until very recently
>>666358604 I mostly agree with you (not the person you're responding to) but lemme play devil's advocate.
Until very recently, technology to effectively change sex was unavailable. I know that not all trans people want to physically change sex, but the possibility has almost certainly made it easier to entertain the idea.
So just because it's "new" doesn't necessarily mean that it's manufactured or entirely cultural.
>>666359569 Correlation is not causation. The authors of these studies are careful enough to say that this may suggest a link. They in no way claim that the prevalence of this gene proves that gender dysphoria is heritable or a matter of genetics.
>>666360669 The studies suggested it as a possibility, dumbass. The claim is that transgender people cannot choose their gender identity and cannot change. The studies cited suggested a genetic component. Obviously, the you're trying to suggest a genetic cause. Fucking moron. Do you even read the shit you cite?
>>666342125 What's a trans? If you're implying you transitioned to another sex you're a massive retard taking hormones and mutilating your body doesn't change your sex lol. God you people belong in a mental institution
>>666362445 >The studies claim that there MAY be biological components, but again, Correlation doesn't imply causation.
It's pretty simple. It's about a neurotic craving for conflict, nothing more. At first it was edgy to be gay. Now everyone is fucking gay and it's not edgy anymore. All the battles were won, there was nothing left to fight for.
Then...all of a sudden "Hi I'm trans and I want my own bathroom"
>>666362727 More to the point. https://www.quora.com/What-percentage-of-gender-transitions-result-in-a-reversal-with-the-transgender-person-going-back-to-living-in-their-original-assigned-gender-identity
It appears that some people do in fact go back to their assigned sex.
>No TRUE transgender goes back to normal Nice no true Scotsman there.
>Why are you concerned about an epidemic of people deluding themselves and getting depression, committing suicide, and mutilating their bodies? Because it affects people in my life, you cunt.
I usually don't care if people play pretend. It gets out of hand when they modify their bodies to fit the fantasy. You're not entitled to have other people view you how you want. That's never been the case and never will be.
>>666362445 you sound like you just read a book on how to feel like you've won an argument without actually addressing the issue u for debate. >correlation doesn't imply causation It also doesn't negate it, so stop using this as an actual argument
>>666359569 It might be genetic, but so is autism ,schizophrenia, and being psychotic. We classified schizos as dangerous because they cannot process reality correctly and live in a fantasy land of their own choosing. Much like how trans don't know which gender they are even though it is evidently between their legs.
>>666363923 THAT WAS REALLY FUCKING WORTH THE WAIT and i'm only being slightly sarcastic there, you got a real cute ass, babygirl makes me wanna grab and spank each cheek hard, then peel off your little panties, and.... got more pics?
Actually there were a lot of studies that were proving that it was entirely a mental condition. Those studies were buried, much deeper than the ones that found there was no genetic link.
In other words it's quite literally all in the head and it can be treated with therapy (that some faggots have been able to ban in some places). It's actually based on the exact same condition that a murderer or rapist's actions are based on. I'll leave it at that, but do the research. When you dig deep enough you'll find it.
>>666364019 I don't care about whatever you're talking about
I just wanted you to know that you sound stupid right now. >Correlation doesn't imply causation. >Just because you say "That doesn't count!" Doesn't make my point any less sound. I didn't say it "didn't count," what I'm implying is that you're completely dismissing something as irrelevant, when the truth is correlation doesn't prove anything, but can be evidence that there is a link. You seem to believe that correlation disproves causation, which is not the case.
I'm going to give you another hint because you're such a nice little shitslinging fuckwhistle.
Did you ever wonder why faggots kept escalating? At first it was about coming out. Then it was the publicity. Then it was the rights. Then it was the marriage. Then SURPRISE! I'm trans. Where's my special shitter?
Because it was NEVER about the victory. It was about the fight. Go be a victim somewhere else monkey spunk.
>>666365016 Not a straw man. Sec doesn't equal gender is the bullshit trotted out by trans advocates. People want to be seen as the other sex. Gender is just self perception. If gender was all thathe mattered, sex reassignment surgery wouldn't exist.
>>666365522 You need me to hold your hand through every logical step? If it wasn't you, obviously I'm talking about the one made the claim. Jesus Christ. You don't even have two brain cells to rub together.
>>666365625 It's actually referred to as gender confirmation surgery these days.
But you're clearly more knowledgeable than the various doctors, neurologists, psychologists, neurobiologists, neurochemists, biochemists, psychiatrists, laboratory technicians, pathologists, neurodiagnostic technologists, psychometrists, etc. etc. etc. who's hard work and dedication has contributed to the current research and medical model of gender dysphoria, fer sure.
>>666342125 Tits or gtfo (or penis or whatever) If you have to open a thread about muh trans like femanons do muh girl just show your genitals or gtfo, or did you actually have a point regarding the subject?
Tl;dr the rule tits or gtfo applies to whores who want attention if you are not one why did you open this thread?
Op I have heard it said that not wanting to date a trans person makes you transphobic, do you believe this, is this even a wide spread belief in the trans community do you think? Just curious, I've never seen an actual trans person say this either.
>>666366587 >identified gender What a load of fucking shit. Stop dreaming of being the other gender and play the hand you're dealt faggots. Wah wah I wanna be a women but I'm a man, here's a better idea than getting a sex change. Kill yourself! This identifying bullshit is making people more and more fucking retarded you all have a mental illness but are wrapping it up saying that it's normal. Fuck you all I hope all you tranny, other-kin, self identifying faggots all die.
>>666367405 Saged, reported, hidden, called the cops, called the Fire Department, called pizza hut, called the USN, called the Royal Navy, called the Red Army, called the FBI. called the CIA, called Interpol, called Stargate Command, called the KGB, called the USMC, called the USAF, called the Royal Air force, called the Battlestar known as Galactica, called MI 6, called Scotland Yard, called the US National Guard of every state, called NYPD, called Obama, called the Queen, called Putin, called David Cameron, called every Governor of every US State, called homo erectus, homo habilis, homo floresiensis, homo antecessor, homo rhodesiensis, and homo neanderthalensis, used my time phone to call Winston Church hill, As well as Hitler, Stalin, Theodore Roosevelt, George Washington, Montezuma, every Caesar, and Gilgamesh, called US Army, called British Army in every era, called every phone sexline, called papa john's, called the US Coast Guard, called my State Senators, called my Senators, called every republican in the US, called The Doctor, called the Pope, called my local Gang lords, called the State Patrol of every state west of the Mississippi, called all of my local news channels, called Star Fleet, called The Sun, called The national enquirer, called CNN, called Scot Pelly, called Steven Colbert, called two thirds of the Mexican Drug Cartels, called Nintendo, called the Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force, called the head of the Illuminati, called every free mason, called Bilderberg, called my neighbors, called the mayor of every city in France, called my mom, called the Emperor of Man, and called every school district in Canada.
>quotes pc bullshit propaganda that tries to rewrite the dictionary to serve an agenda.
My dump has more brains than you. Pic related.
A phobia is a fear of something. Not accepting or not liking something is not based on fear. It may be based on prejudice or even malice, but it has nothing to do with fear. Go read a real fucking dictionary you goddamn illiterate asshole. Think for yourself for once in your pathetic sissy life.
Good. So we don't need to make special bathroom accommodations. Glad that's settled. Now we can focus on real fucking problems and not catering to some neurotic fuckwit that thinks the world owes him/her/it something.
Please do us a solid and go fuck yourself. Hey, that's one good thing about being a trans. You can swing both ways and fuck yourself without ever leaving your fucking basement.
You never did figure out the difference between evolution and manipulation to suit an agenda I take it?
Gay = happy Faggot = bundle of sticks Phobia = fear You = faglord
Now try as you might, english is english. Hopefully you're not too stupid to understand this next bit:
Fuck off. Nobody gives a fuck what you think. The world doesn't revolve around you. There are over six billion people in this world that don't give a shit if you live or die or that even know you exist.
>>666368349 >You're a sissy tranny >But I'm actually not >Nobody cares at all nobody cares if you're a tranny or not nobody even said anything you are not important enough for me to mention such a thing I'm so fucking angry that you think I care Wow.
>>666368626 Cool bro I have no delusions about how insignificant I am, but you seem to have an unhealthy obsession with me.
>now try as you might, english is english Does this shit even make sense to you?
Manipulation to suit an agenda... who the fuck cares? Gay means what it means, you can fight language all you want, but the rest of society is going to keep on making up new words and bastardizing old ones.
Get over it, it ain't worth the stress you're putting on yourself.
>>666370183 Fuck off you pc fucktard. I'd rather someone who believes in a higher power over someone who believe being a tranny is okay. You fuckers are all supporting mentally ill people. If mental institutions were still in full force all of these trannys and other-kin would be locked up where they belong.
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