so im thinking about growing shrooms. the only bit i cant quite understand is about getting the right spores. i was looking at liquid culture but im not sure if it will give me the psilocybin cubensis or just some random shroom. also general shroom thread.
When I looked into it it seemed like their was high turnover. However you had to be very clean to prevent contamination and their were difficulties making the system somewhat discrete.
just get psilocybin cubensis
That's your basic magic mushroom and get the B+ strand or some shit like that.
Spent my entire night researching this shit, there's also a thread on the shroomery. If it's not psilocybin cubensis it's probably not magic, also, just get the most popular shroom for now (b+) and then when you're more confident you can start trying out different strands
I ordered spores for cubensis and a few others including morels because Fuck you. I began culturing them in a Petri dish made of agar agar medium. Then we moved onto large Ball glasses like you'd use for canning.
Thats my problem at the moment. i cant actually get psilocybin cubensis, if i could i can just clone them when i needed more but i dont have them and most likely cant get them
I live in australia, get spore prints unless you live in america then make your life easy and get syringes. I bought mine tonight from The Hawks Eye
You want P.C. B+
The hawks eye is a pretty decent supplier, i just went with them because they were half the price of every other supplier.
you should check out this thread too
Grow kits are over rated.
>12 1/2 pint wide mouth mason jars
>pressure cooker (I picked my first one up at a yard sale).
> brown rice flower, h20, vermiculite
>spores from a reputable source.
Liquid culture is a doubling method, comparable to taking clones from plants. Get spores from a reputable source (I can recommend a few, if you're in the US). You can use cheap beer, and water then to make liquid cultures.
do you live in america. I highly suggest getting syringes if you do.
Here's the process of turning a spore print into syringes.
boil some water...
then once boiled, suck some water into your syringe.
leave it for 2 mintues and continue to boil the water.
then discharge the water from the needle and suck a second syringeful.
wait 2 mins , then discharge again.
on the third time suck up your water and then leave it to cool.
this water should now be sterile.
in a glove box or in front of a flow hood.
take your spore print, and with a sterilize knife or inoculation hoop, scoop some spores into a shot glass ( fresh from the dishwasher ) and then shoot the water from your syringe into the spores.
then suck it all back in again
Be aware that you should make a glove box which is a big plastic box with holes cut out the side and gloves taped into the holes.
I'm in brisbane. I really should be looking in the fields to get shrooms but fuck it, if i learn how to make them i'll be set for years.
I don't have anything on me, i went to tafe and this wizard (30 year old autistic virgin) picked up on my conversation about purchasing spores and he actually made shrooms so he ran me through it but it's still a complicated as fuck process. So i bought spores tonight, i already have verm and a hawkins presure cooker, he said you HAVE to use the hawkins brand because it's the only PC that gets to the correct PSI
Doubt that's true about the brand name. I started my first two runs by doing this >>594567383.
https://mycotopia.net/ is another resource that has saved my ass.
Not really, anon, what do you feel is so complicated? I've taught a few people how to do this, and just got a new padawan.
yeah, i've got the pressure cooker already so fuck it.
I'm an apprentice making 25,500 a year and have been pretty much pushed into a postion where i've had to take up a 10k loan so money is pretty tight at the moment because i have to budget food, fuel and tools aswell. So yeah, but i probably won't have anything for two months.
The autistic guy gave me shrooms, i didn't see colors but i still had an amazing experience and i'm pretty keen to go on another trip. If you're looking for a hookup then i'm not your guy. You should just go out to oxley though and pick them if you got the balls to do it.
Does anybody know where to buy syringes in aus?
the sterilization risks is what bugs me.
once i have the cake i should be fine and i'll know what to do from then but it's just getting to that point.
So when my spores arrive, i'm going to make my glove box, i have to wash it with alcohol, then spray it with oust. Scrape the spores into a shot glass then suck them up with a syringe. I kinda get that.
But the shroomery is telling me to make a liquid culture and i think that will just complicate the process especially as i don't want to make a lot, just a bit for me and my friends for now and i'll sell later in the year
>how long will spores last suspended in a solution in a syringe?
without the liquid culture, i have to make a vermiculite and brown rice mix and put that into a jar and then pressure cook it for an hour. then syringe my spores into that then i'm play the waiting game. once the glasses are white i dunk them, roll them with vermiculite and watch the shrooms grow.
I think i'm just scared to fuck up because if i don't do anything right then i'll have to wait for more spores to arrive in the mail
Running thru old books.
Pressure cooker (with higher pressure) is only needed if you start growing off of grains like popcorn or rye.
If you're doing brown rice flower, anything will work.
i think they said that spores would last 6 weeks in the fridge if your not using it? so i think the best bet would be just to use it all in the one batch and then make a new one
you can scrape your spore print into your shot glass, suck it up in the syringe then syringe it into a liquid culture and what that does is is allows the spores to grow and you end up with more spores then you started with but they'll still be in a liquid solution ready for you to inject into your substrate.
You need to research it thought because i'm just brushing over it
>google "honey water liquid culture"
I think i'll use half of my syringes (because i can make multiple syringes from a spore print) on cakes and the other half on honey water LC
Got you. Sterile procedure is a bigger deal, after you take things out of the jars, but can be fucked up early.
I would recommend making a syring out of any spore prints you get. Go to a farm and ranch supply store and tell them you need a syringe for your pigs/cattle.
Sterilize a 1/2 pint wide mouth jar. Sterilize syringe and water (I can be much more specific if you like, it just sounds like you have the info for that part). Clean glove box and place all items inside. Squirt the sterile (and cooled to room temperature h20 over the print, and draw the liquid back into sterile syringe.
Glove box dosen't have to be fancy, get a clear tote, cut holes in it with a jigsaw, silicone rubber gloves to holes.
all of this can be done on a cheap budget.
I directly knock up quart jars of popcorn with a syringe that have been boiled and PC'd at 30 PSI for 45 mins. Liquid cultures only cut down on the time it takes for the jars to colonize.
I personally get the best yield from B+ (8-16 oz per run) but the best trip ive had is from Thai Lipa Yais. GL anon!
Ha ha. I was thinking about telling the same thing.
Here's a generic link with the info, but much better sources for the same info exist.
If your procedure and equipment is sterile, prints can last for 3-6 months. Store in well sealed bag/container in refrigerator. In my experience, syringes are easier to work with, and much more easy to keep sterile (they exist in a sealed inviorment).