>2,500 U.S. Special Forces vs. 10,000 European soldiers
>conventional weapons (no planes, no tanks, no nukes)
Who wins /b/?
> Uk flag for europe
> 2500 vs 10 000
Nice troll op, nice troll ...
1 James bond vs 2500 U.S special forces
ill take bond
It's "more fair" you retard
Yeah, in a piss drinking contest
Send 5 men from the French Foreign Legion and they'll back for the breakfast
>SAS routs last of the US forces to a remote desert bunker
>US camps out for weeks
>Think that the British will have died of thirst by now
>Go to exit
>Well hydrated bear grylls around the corner
>Shouldering smoking rifle
>Cracks a smile
>Smell of good ol' British piss on his breath
Sometimes Seals and SAS will cross-train, but never one over the other.
Not to mention that most of the improvements comes from the Seals and to the SAS.
However because of that^ I'd have to say they're on the same playing field, but Seals have a better edge.
Words of an American Soldier about our Army ....
"Those Brits are a strange old race, they show affection by abusing each other, will think nothing of casually stopping in the middle of a fire fight for there "brew up" and eat food that I wouldn't give to a dying dog! but fuck me, I would rather have one British squaddie on side than a entire battalion of spetznaz!!!... Why? Because the British are the only people in the world who when the chips are down and there seems like no hope left, instead of getting sentimental or hysterical, will strap on there pack, charge there rifle, light up a smoke and calmly and wryly grin "well are we going then you wanker??"
it's a word, op
make it real, like 2,500 marines vs 10,000 shithead vampyre ISIS mudslimes
or better yet
2,500 NATO troops vs. 10,000 ISIS 'line 'em up and shoot 'em in the head' wankers
>get hired to train military people in non military skills
>meet US SF's
>Get to talk to all in a group
>Ask "who is the craziest?"
>Gurkha will cut you all
>Be me still
>never forget this story
>Even close to the SAS
LOL TOP FUCKING KEK.
I think you mean the Royal Marines Commando. That's the equivalent of the SEALs.
The SAS is another level entirely, it's what CoD games are based on. i.e. almost fantasy level of elite special forces.
The SAS actually train SEAL teams.
jesus h fucking christ, son. not even a filthy britfag but the SAS would fucking exterminate US seals. also, 2500 U.S. Special Forces would get fucking rekt by 2500 regular grunts from ANY eurofag nation. keep shouting USA USA USA and the rest of the world will keep sending pretty flag draped coffins back to the US by the plane load. fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.
Special Forces was never designed to be a conventional warfare team.
There are numerous real life situations where a group of 20 SF taken on 100s of enemies, but to note thousands puts them out of their strength.
Which was a specialized small group in the middle of nowhere.
Not saying they couldn't do it, but...
Rangers would be better suited.
>Marines winning a fight
trick question of course, America would never win a war against Europe, they wish, all this american niggers can do is continue to be in love with our history, and pretend they rule the world while we rest, wake up the european imperial armies and see what becomes of you ;)
1 Roger Moore vs 250,000 U.S Special
My sides. The only thing the US are good at in military terms is dropping massive fucking bombs and missiles on little wooden huts. And of course, themselves.
1v1 they're probably among the worst in the world.
All that money yet no sense or intelligence to use it.
You're wrong, if you're going to try and be a smart arse know your shit first.
You are spouting some modern misconception bullshit dribbled out of some retards mouth, it is and will forever be called the UNION JACK only.
Also, has the US ever actually won a war that wasn't against themselves?
>BTFO by Japan so had to resort to shit-house tactics of dropping an atomic bomb on innocents
>What is the Battle of Somalia
Hey dumbshit, the kill ratio for American soldiers in that single engagement was 10 to 1, without air, tank, or satellite support.
git rekt you buttmad thirdworlder, how does american boot suit your tastebuds
WW1 not barely, but not honorable mention.
WW2 the fuck you talking about, they invented a new tactic to kick the shit out of the pacific theater.
The only reason they dropped hydrogen bombs was because an invasion to the mainland of Japan would have resulted in even more casualties.
Vietnam, they left.
Just like your country did, most likely.
there is no debate, it has always and will always be the Union Jack, some hipster faggot tried implementing some sort of rule and it was thrown out http://www.express.co.uk/comment/expresscomment/436835/It-s-official-We-can-call-our-flag-the-Union-Jack
Anybody who says Union flag is nothing short of a cock jockey.
>People that know nothing about the pacific theatre.
Had it not been for them in the Pacific theater, Japan would be on its way through Russia and Berlin would never have fallen.
Do they only teach this in Kiwi and American schools?
The US has NEVER won a fucking war. EVER. Why is that? You can spend the most money, have all the fancy toys, but a bunch of fucking broke ass yellow dudes in black pyjamas fucking REKT the US. It happened in Cuba, Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, the list goes on and fucking on. You sit the fuck down and stfu, kid. Men are talking here.
Why do threads like this exist?
they're outnumbered 4:1. The Europeans would win, and that's coming from an American.
Numbers beat training, it's the truth of warfare.
This thread is full of cancer.
Who fucking cares besides autistic numbnuts like yourself? The military doesn't represent you or your interests, you just take pride in it because you personally have absolutely nothing to offer society and need this kind of jackoff session to ease your pathetic beta mind from the pain of your meaningless existence.
Hold it guys... We can all have fun debating who is better the US or UK but can we all just agree on one thing.. The guys who are saying about the french military being good are fucking bullshitters. The french dont fight battles or wars they just surrender once a shot is fired. Back to Seals VS SAS.
negative....no country could ever occupy Russia, and only russians could do something about the nazis
ps, not russian, not an american hater, but let's be honest, the atomic bomb was an easy way out of the man to man battle you lost with japan
>Year of our lord 2012+2
>Still getting angry at fellow anons
I actually completely agree with you by the way. It is the union jack and always will be. Don't be such a fag
Russian Army,British and American forces still cannot defeat a Afghan force/gang/group.
Turban warfare seems to be the ultimate.
In 1945 japan had colasped in 2 weeks if Murica had lauched an invasion. They were running out of everything (oil, factories, food)
Atomic bombs were only launch to scare the reds ...
The SAS come out on top.
Just look at the Killing House. They were the first with the idea which many over special forces have copied.
Plus they don't tend to have that American tendency for friendly fire.
I know hands down I'd rather have to take on the Seals than the SAS
>1. SAS, United Kingdom
>Special Air Service is one of the best Special Forces in UK.
am i the only one who saw this. shouldn't it say: Special Air Service is the best special forces in the world if it is ranked #1
I'm a kiwi mate, we didn't fight in the pacific theater.
>No country could even occupy Russia
Except for itself.
Also, not true. Only in the winter could no one invade Russia.
>Easy way out of the man to man battle you lost with japan
Except the US pushed them all the way back to their native waters. It was easier than invading the mainland of japan, yes.
It also took less than the estimated casualties in the long run.
The casualty rate was almost 5:1
Meaning for every dead US soldier, there were 5 dead Vietcong and North Vietnamese soldiers.
And that's even when they had less soldiers than the Vietnamese.
Requirements to enter Delta force culminates with: 40 mile march with 45lb backpack. Requirements to enter Royal Marines culminates with: 40 mile march with 55lb backpack.
Fucking lol @ americans. Even you absolute top tier most elite secret special ops unit cannot compete with our average marine
Lets make the translation equal. Comming from my personal Experience working with US special forces in Germany.
[USA] // == [EU] Special forces
[USA] Special Forces == [EU] Soldier
[USA] Regular Soldier == [EU] Reserve
[USA] Reserve == [EU] Farmer
+ you take Painkillers and Aspirings away from the US soldiers, you win the war.
ITT: autistic 15 year olds make up facts about their country's military.
Actual armyfag here. Served with a bunch of different countries in Afghanistan. None of us are going to fight each other any fucking time in the near future and 9/10 soldiers from any of our countries actually respect each other. Face the fact your little circle jerk battles will never happen
remembr that march for the SAS is the brecon beacons
just look over this
they quite literally torture recruits to see if they are tough enough. everything from forced positions for hours, sleep deprivation, fear, pain, sexual humiliation from female officers to fuck knows what else.
I'm a Brit so totally biased on the implicit USA v UK debate, but I'd like to point out that the French Legion are fucking legit. There was a documentary about them, and they have some ridiculously absurd obstacle course in the end that an American SEAL has never managed to pass the required time on
special forces are good at hitting u where u dont expect it then running away. theyre not super heroes. not invincible. they deploy, blow something up, leave. stop getting facts from movies
Most European countries have very good special forces too so if they are allowed then ofc its europe. Such a stupid question.
what a fag...
nazi-japan was fighting against reds
Japan could continue that war by years, and they also have atomic bombs
Japan governoment these day were just full of good guys who saw what is an atomic bomb (unlike you, americanfags fat suckers) and give up to save millions of peoples
even now - they are wise, and you are stupid
Blaah blah blah US faggots blah blah UK faggots blah blah
FRENCH FOREIGN LEGION ARE ANIMALS WHO EATING YOUR FAGOTS UK/US SOLDIERS.JUST UNDERSTAND IT
Another armyfag here. He's right, I've served with Germans and Russians. Soldiers, infantry at least, are brothers in arms.
The only "soldiers' I would kill would be the Iraqis and Egyptians. Bunch of idiots who fuck each other and praise allah while doing it.
The Iraqis are the worst, though. God what a bunch of disgusting retards.
Yeah you're right, the FRENCH legion aren't french. That's totally right. 100%.
And the Americans are the most notoriously non-psychologically stable military in the fucking world. Spectacularly paranoid and megalomaniacal causing friendly fire left right and centre and completely unprofessionally blowing shit up for fun
implying anyone (excluding me of course) is smart enough to know what godwin's law states
The FFL are gay as fuck. Literally. There was a dude on /fit/ a while back talking about how rampant the homosexuality is there. Dudes straight up fucking making out at the passing out party.
Gay. As. Hell
Not saying whether or not that has a bearing on whether they can fight but you should know it's basically Russian crims and homos that make up its ranks.
Oh I see, your argument has consisted solely of the premise "gay is bad", therefore all aspects of a person are inferior if they are gay.
This sounds like the infallible logic of an American.
Special forces hands down.
They would build an army in the European country.
Green berets (special forces) are force multipliers.
1 green beret = 50 soldiers.
2,500 green berets = aprox. 125,000 bodies.
They have the funding. Simple math
125,000 > 10,000.
Army SF are teachers. They would school you.
Did that motherfucker not say
>Not saying whether or not that has a bearing on whether they can fight
So you skipped that part? Or are you an sjw and WANT the opposing to be a homophobe?
2500 US "Special Forces" would actually lose to 1000 fanatic IS religious warriors, since they are not afraid of death and amerifats are degenerate
good night western civilization
it would be everyone losing if there was an all out war against europe.
>wake up the european imperial armies and see what becomes of you ;)
we are already awake, and our military might is fucking insane. its not even close to what it could be, unlike you faggots we all have guns available to us within walking distance regardless of your location so attacking on our soil is a suicide mission, not to mention transportation issues i would love to see you try to bring your pathetic armies across OUR fucking oceans enjoy having every last fucking ship sunk. you simply do not have the fire power to take on the US in a genocide situation, and i am not even including nukes in this equation. people joke about us losing wars, no we lose support for those wars because of fucking hippies, look at the numbers in vietnam shit stain. they were being slaughtered 10 to 1 and had we continued they would be flying a star spangled banner right now.
the only reason we have not wiped out the middle east is again we are fighting civilians with guns we cant go in there and kill everyone that is not wearing one of our uniforms which is why it seems like we are losing. you cant kill an idea but you can kill everyone with it that shows up which is exactly what we are doing, again look at their casualties vs ours.
Warfare to me is saving your own country from invaders who want to take over your land.
USA has never had this issue, the UK has had it but the Battle of Britain stopped that iin WW2. Vietnam & Afghan were/are fighting for it.
i said that usa nuked the japanese for scarin russian.
The japaneses were already fucked and can't fight without oil and amo...
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