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If you try to "convince" her it's never gonna happen, needy shit like that is a huge turn off for women. Learn to not give a fuck about her. If your behavior shows that you don't really need her, the pussy will be thrown at you.
Go to bars and literally photograph yourself with as many hot chicks as you can. Pose yourself with some hummer or awesome car. Go to the bank and get a bunch of hundred dollar bills (that you can return) and post yourself with tons of cash. Go to a nearby beach and wear sunglasses, take selfies with beach babes. Put your relationship status on Facebook as anything other than single.
Pretend to be all political and shit and act like you care about issues that are above your own. Post shit about visiting orphanages and helping the needy, fixing your car. Basically make yourself look as awesome as you can.
>>568626480 Jealousy works, but it's not really about that. If you're begging her to fuck you, she gains all the power, which is bad. You need to act like if you were to never see her again, it's nothing to you. If she sees that you're less invested in her than she is in you, she's gonna want your validation and she'll fuck you.
>>568626358 I just outright tell a woman what they "need" to do. "You need to get over here and fuck." Confidence gets you further than childish games where you try to pass yourself off as not needy. The act of trying to look like other women like you usually backfires, as it is both stinking of astroturfing (thus makes you look like you did before the effort: needy) and portrays such a lack of confidence due to the fact that you felt you had to broadcast other womens' interest in you.
Then again, I make sure to broadcast both my sexuality AND my casual acceptance of and sensitivity to the woman's ultimate choice from the start. They all know I'm interested in fucking them from the day I make contact, but I don't PRESSURE them to do so.
If this chick is an ex and you aren't already understood by her as a sexual being, you might not have much luck; same goes for if the breakup was bad or if she is weird about fucking exes.
>>568627197 I was introverted and shy before I started advertising myself on Facebook. Then, when I finally got my first chick, her pics attracted more chicks, and they then attracted more chicks.
Don't believe me? See for yourself
It also helps you get over particular girls fast. You discover connections to girls that you never thought you could have. And other girls who had control over you finally get in line with what reality is and start to respect you more.
Sure, you'll get rejected, but by practicing to approach girls you become more confident. You won't give a fuck who knows your personal life on Facebook. You'll literally be like a celeb.
>>568627442 >If this chick is an ex and you aren't already understood by her as a sexual being, you might not have much luck; same goes for if the breakup was bad or if she is weird about fucking exes.
The thing is that we broke up once already abouta year ago, but became fuck buddies. This time I suggested the same but she refused. Our breakup was a friendly one, no hard feelings... Except my dick
>>568626662 >>568627002 >>568627221 This is terrible bullshit PUA type advice. It doesn't fucking work. It makes you look like a moron who wastes WAY too much time and effort just to beg up to someone to get what you want.
If you want to fuck, tell the girl you fucking want to fuck. It's not hard. Don't qualify it with "I want to fuck you but it's okay if you don't want to blah blah blah." Just tell her that she should come fuck you and leave it at that. Tune the conversation a bit for the girl's comfort level with sexual conversation but don't say shit that indicates anything other than honesty about what you want and DON'T FUCKING APOLOGIZE FOR IT OR QUALIFY IT.
You want sex and she is the one who needs to take action. If she enjoyed sex with you, you're better off just telling her you want to fuck her than you are playing around like these people are telling you to.
"Fake it till you make it" and other PUA stuff is useless. It's all written by guys who already have the skills and anyone who doesn't have them will never succeed with their advice. It's simple as fuck: blunt honesty plus respect gets you shit you want.
>>568628082 >>568627975 I've tried the straight up asking route. It's only successful 5% of the time or less (even with casual encounters you've been able to do shit with previously).
Literally, the girls who came back and begged me to be with them are still in relationships and are willing to cheat on their men simply because they get reminded of what awesome time we had together because of the pics I post with myself of other girls. But do what you like, man.
>>568627759 If you were fuck buddies before and she's turning it down now (and is not in a committed relationship) then you need to understand where you erred to make her uninterested. Discuss that with her first. Tell her you want to fuck her again, and that you also respect her and believe you've done something she doesn't like. Get her to TALK to you about why she WON'T fuck you. Taking the time to talk about things will demonstrate respect for her. Dropping the "I want to sex you up" but NOT making it the main topic of the conversation signals your desires while making the MAIN TOPIC one of "I want to know if I have behaved in a way you don't like so that I can learn from it" rather than "gimme dat pussay gurl!!11"
If this is not a new girl and you have an established relationship, DON'T FUCKING TREAT HER LIKE A BRAINLESS WALKING VAGINA FOR GOD'S SAKE. You aren't getting sex for a reason and you need to fix that problem with yourself before you deserve to hit that again.
>>568628364 Maybe I'm different because I'm an Aspie, but I have always qualified women by integrating sexuality while not making it the primary focus of all conversation; if a woman can't discuss sex along with other topics, they're not worth trying to sleep with anyway. The best sex comes from women who appreciate and can be open about sex. The ones who make the jump from "discussing sex" to "this guy is a douche who just wants my body and I don't like him automatically" are just plain not worth the effort. I am not in the business of fucking dead fish and tolerating fake moans.
>>568628364 >because of the pics I post with myself of other girls. But do what you like, man.
The problem with this in specific is that it's ultimately bullshit. There is very little depth to the relationship (and apparently the women as well) if this actually works. If all you want is sex, this is a tool in the toolbox. This guy's dealing with an ex, though, and posting pictures of other girls is more likely to fire up the "you obviously are doing well enough that I don't want to fuck you because I'll feel like just another slut in a pool of cunts" sort of attitude. This shit will backfire with a quickness.
>>568628962 She told me once that she wants to "move on" and becoming fuck buddies is distracting to her. She says she's not so receptive to new guys if she starts having sex with me... But that might be bullshit lol I dunno.
My approach and understanding is more... everything in life for a man is to build up so that you can procreate with a woman and obtain offspring. Every job you can have, every art you make, every song you create... Ultimately it's to get you laid in the end. It is our struggle as males to hide the fact that we do it all for the Nookie. The better you hide it, the more turned on women get when you finally hit her with the question at the right moment. I had the best conversation with a girl one time in a lotion isle. I wish I would have recorded it. We were talking about lotions and what's good for massaging. Then before long, I straight up asked her, so what's stopping us from having me put this lotion on you at my place? She sent me several texts about how wet that conversation made her.
My philosophy: Don't spill the beans all at once. Be mysterious and let HER work for it TOO.
>>568629326 >"you obviously are doing well enough that I don't want to fuck you because I'll feel like just another slut in a pool of cunts" JEALOUSY IS THE NUMBER 1 EX OBTAINER IN THIS UNIVERSE.
Are you kidding me? women live off jealousy. I had more exes contact me after posting pics with new girls than I ever did. Come on, you already know this. Women literally flock in herds. If one hates you, they all hate you. If one loves you and another sees it, she wants a piece of that pie.
If she randomly starts talking to you without you contacting her, she will TELL you shit like, "We can just be friends, I have a man now OR I'm doing fine on my own without a man." What she's saying (90% of the time) is: If you can impress me enough, I might just fuck you. But it's also okay if we don't. You have to be straight forward when the time comes though. There's something I noticed last night and several other nights at the club. Chicks will hip grind at a guy if the dude just grabs her and is confident. If you just kind of stand by her and expect her to back into you, this rarely works.
Just hit up a ton of girls at the club, dude. Make small talk. Offer to take them home. Repeat until you get laid.
>>568630117 You'll always get rejected no matter what. Confidence or not. But if you're confident, you can brush off the ones that reject you. Immediately act like you're too good for them. I usually give them the whole spiel of, "Hey, I was here first, you came into my space." That usually shuts them up, some have even come back and then hip grinded me right after.
>>568629371 >She told me once that she wants to "move on"
Respect that and leave her the fuck alone. Don't burn the bridge. Be a good friend. She can end up introducing you to other women down the line. Women like this are your best friend in the field of finding other more awesome women.
DON'T KEEP TRYING. It's not an unknown girl. The relationship is over and she doesn't want to sex you, so be friends, keep in touch, and let her send you sexual references in the future. PUA shit does not apply here.
>>568631981 I was referring to the OPs situation where he's trying to get with her again, since the girl is already gone. If you already have the girl, you don't need to make her jealous, you just need to stay awesome in her eyes.
>>568632148 I have a girlfriend who doesn't require me to stay awesome. She enjoys our intelligent conversations and we bash on feminazis and Internet idiots together, and she's one of the best sex partners I've ever had. If you have to work for it beyond basic effort like washing the dishes, cooking, or occasionally (not frequently) doing something thoughtful for her, the girl is not girlfriend material for your personality type.
If it's all about sex, the gaming can get obnoxious and complex, but some women are just out of reach regardless. Look up Mystery's discussion of "one-itis" for more info on why focusing on one girl is bad.
Sex is easy to get though. OkCupid account + blunt honesty about sexuality + mildly flexible standards = easy, awesome pussy. 10/10 girls aren't usually very good in bed, but 6/10 girls can be freaky as fuck. Interest in light BDSM can help.
Anyway, I wanted advice to fuck HER. I know I'll eventually meet other girls and stuff. I think we're getting off-topic with this "other fish in the sea" philosophy. I DON'T want to get back into a relationship with her. Just put my face in her pussy
>>568632674 Well, as you can tell by my fb, I'm not particularly a handsome man, and usually girls will contact me for a quick fix. I live in Utah (Mormon land) where there are practically only Caucasian women. You probably already know that brown men have to work much harder to to even obtain a woman of lighter race or even keep her. I literally had an ex gf who I had an ex bf she seemed more interested in than me, even though he had straight up Asperger's (diagnosed and everything) was a drug addict, didn't even know where his kid was half the time. I lead more deep conversations than him and everything. He didn't finish high school and gets disability from the government. Why she liked him more was beyond me. The only difference other than that was that he was white. Fuck, the guy even had a unibrow. I had a job and supported her and actually took her places, while he just sat at home and did drugs. Yet she liked him more. That's pretty sad if you ask me, but it doesn't get me down. So yeah, I have not had a successful relationship even after having dated over 150 women. I can't give you advice other than be the right type and race for her. (all this shit sounds racist, I know, but I've witnessed all this shit to be true first-hand).
For a while I had a relationship with a woman that I could connect with and have deep conversations with, but she was literally 51 years old while I was 25 years old. It was fun for a while, but couldn't last on so many levels.
>>568634512 Let me fix that. I've had 3 serious relationships. But all 3 of them turned out to be psycho drug addicts. 1 addicted to heroin. 1 addicted to prescription pain meds. 1 addicted to some drug that I forgot the name of. I don't do any drugs, but those kinds of girls are the kind that seem to fall into my league. The relationship was "successful" per se, even though it was only about 6 months at a time. So I'd like it to be successful for more than 6 months or more than 2-3 years. So by my definition, successful would mean having a happy relationship for more than 3 years.
I've long given up on that though. There's no happiness in looking for happiness in a relationship you may or may not ever have.
So I've learned to be happy by going for as many chicks as I can and not giving a fuck. If any girl wants to keep up with me or "fix me" by her standards, she's welcome to do so.
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