Story time. >Be me >be 16 and virgin >stuck in a hick

get a new lawyer

How the hell can you be held accountable for something you did while underage?

Anyway, I wish the best of luck for you.

get a real fucking lawyer...you didn't rape her you just molested her with your hand, and only once...with a decent lawyer you should get off without seeing jail

>>558926114
you mean that his life is done? can he get a job with sex offender on this resume?

what the fuck ?
i mean 4 years after that happening they call you. they wont even got proves that you did it. and if they could prove it it could be just a accidentaly touching
how did they caught you ?

>>558926114
It's called the statute of limitations, depending on the crime, there's a period after which you can still be charged for committing it at any point.

>>558925512
What evidence do they have?

>>558926532
this, nice bullshit OP

they have evidence now...
Have fun in jail pedo

>>558925512
I call bullshit.
Because a lawyer would never ask you if you did it or not.

>>558926437
Im just talking about the fact that he was a minor at the time of the event

>>558926771
are you dumb
lawyer has to know everything about the case to do his best

>>558927028
that has nothing to do with it.

>>558926114
I guess because of the age difference.

>>558926307
Her word against mine.

>>558926532
Again, her word against mine, but the fine psychologists seem to think that the state has a case.

>>558926771
Well, I seem to have the only lawyer out there with a soul.

Oh boy! I'm gonna go to the police now and tell them my next door neighbour raped me with no evidence or literally anything but my word!

Fuckin sage

>>558927028
No you fucking moron, one of the first things you learn as a criminal defense lawyer is that you shouldn't know if they did it or not. If your client tells you he did it, and he wants to plead not guilty, you can never put him on the stand because you know.

>>558927180
It has nothing to do about whether he cares or not, he doesn't. It has to do with the fact that you lose some legal defense avenues if you tell your lawyer you did it.

>>558925512
admitting was your first fuck up.

>>558925512

dont drop the soap in jail m8

>>558927295
>Sages
>Doesn't sage

wat

>>558925512
You are plenty fucking autistic for not knowing you dont say anything to anyone else, even if the ask you "were you alive in 2010"? all you need to say is "I don't answer questions" you already fucked yourself. The fifth amendment states "no one is to be whiteness against themselves" u r don kido

>>558927295
loser

>>558927996
I forgot to mention that i'm from a fucking small country in Europe. The fact that I was in shock had a little to do with what I told my lawyer. I didn't answer anything but the things they knew, like I lived there.

Good luck in jail!

How is a kid going to remember something like that 3 years later? Just how long did you touch her vagina for?

>>558925512
bullshit
in all her word against yours cases there needs to be corroborating evidence, someone else saying you did it some proof
you would not be expected to be found guilty unless you had a past of sexual assaults or you were touching all the kids
so full of shit op

>>558929109
Underage confirmed

>>558928564
European countries also have law that are the same, you should probably request a new lawyer who may represent you better and aslong as you don't say anything to the cops there will be 0 evidence to convict you also when I say nothing to the cops I mean not a single word even if you deny something it will come back to get you

>>558929382
Not long. But though she didn't remember the night well, I am told she was very convincing in her testimony of the touching itself.

>>558925512
Might as well go on a killing/raping/partying spree, your life is over. Even if you do get out of prison the stigma of being a pedophile will prevent you from having good jobs or meaningful relationshits.

pedo

>>558925512
You should have fucked her, she would have been more ashamed. Just randomly touching is wierd bro.

>>558930060
That was my initial thought. Although a psychiatrist I met on referral from my lawyer said that I was very sincere in my telling of the story and that if I ever needed to tell the story it should be done the way I told it.

>>558930374
I didn't want to, I don't actually have any sexual desire towards children. Just a stupid fucking thing in a moment of weakness and curiosity. I never meant to do it and I won't repeat it.

>>558926279
Of course he didn't rape her, which is why he's being charged with sexual assault, not rape. L2read idiot.

>>558925916
This. If you're found guilty and all the evidence they have is "she said this happened four years ago," your lawyer is fucking terrible.

A cousin of mine was sentenced to 20 years in jail, just for "touching his niece's vagina" and her mom (maybe probably a lie) said that it were true and she wasn't even in the same room at the time, however, there wasn't any proof of anything in that incident. Adding to that, when the police asked the mother if it Were true, she responded with a yes and the cop said "it's enough evidence, get in the car." OP, that might be the similar to your case

>>558927996
lol youtube.com/watch?v=gwYBshAScmE

>>558931140
I am told that the psychological evaluation will be the nail in my coffin. If I lose it will be because of a specialists opinion on mine and hers testimony.

>>558931334
Sorry, not sure if this makes sense. English is not my first language and im still learning

>>558927180
Why the hell would you mention you touched her to the shrink

>>558925512
You are not going to jail.
All they have is a testimony 4 years ago.
if u can get any trouble between aunt and you, you can claim she is using her to get revenge on her.
Stay in denial

burn in hell kid toucher

>>558931556
Since when do you have to submit to a psychological evalutation? You don't have to cooperate with shit they tell you to do. Just deny deny deny. Don't give them any more than they already have.

>>558932931
The shrink is being paid by me, not the law. He can't divulge anything that goes on between us, I think.

>>558933507
I probably don't, but she already has, I am pretty sure with the state of things in my country that I will be convicted.

>>558925512
why the fuck are charging you with sexual assault after 4 years? seriously what the fuck

>>558933889
If they think you're a danger to someone they can.

>>558934115
Well, I think no one considers me dangerous. The fact that on numerous occasions this same niece came to my home, interacted with me without problems and showed no sign of fear or contempt towards me should be a nice testimony to my character.

>>558925512
faggot dont know shit about laws.
her testimony is not enough evidence.
get a better lawyer.
study body language(mostly lies) and go to their evaluation.
deny everything.
>>558935154
tell them this

>>558933889
they are mandated by law to report you to the police in my country

>>558935506
I actually feel(for the first fucking time since this shitstorm came about) that I have a fighting chance. Thanks for that.

I'm still scared that if I gamble with denying after I exercised the right to shut the fuck up that I might go to jail instead of pleading guilty and striking a deal with them for parole.

>>558936089
same as impending murder

>>558936462
I think it's only if they can prevent it, not if it is four fucking years old...

anyway, good luck for you bro. let the god or anything you believe in help you.

>>558936843
that's the problem you think, its a question for your new scumbag lawyer

>>558937715
Good point.

>>558937693
Thanks.

>>558926998
Depends on country and State/Province/Prefecture/Canton/Oblast/Autonomous Republic/District

>>558925512
> be me
This shit needs to fucking stop.
Same with
> continue?
After every post.
Faggots.

>>558933889
Did your lawyer tell you to cooperate with their investigation? If so, he's a fucking idiot and you need a new one STAT.

If not, you're a fucking idiot.

>>558938510
Duly noted.

>>558938510
glad you are paying attention to the things that truly matter

amen anon

>>558939305
The lawyer told me he couldn't tell me what to do, only advice(which he didn't do much of). I didn't cooperate, but I really needed more of a hands-on lawyer since in the beginning I didn't know what the fuck was going to happen.

>>558936265
prosecutors make deals for a reason.
trust me, if they could, they would not offer u a deal, and instead risk at a trial.

Thats because if do everything right, u win.

>>558925512
Stretch that shot out until you pass the the statue of limitations time you fuckin pedo. Also get a new lawyer.

you fucking poked her vagina, what kind of a faggy shit law is that when you can get arrested for that

>>558925916
>>558931140
>>558926279
>>558935506
>>558937715
>get a new lawyer, OP

>>558938510
>People posting in a thread for no reason at all aside from spouting puerile, excessively critical pedantry at OP

>>558940464
Welcome to civilization, we trade in freedom for security and people like me, that make an honest fucking mistake at age 16 get branded for life as pedophiles.

>>558940762
I am starting to think that is the right thing to do, my only concern is that I won't have any money to pay the lawyers.

>>558941382
At least it isn't about telling me I should an hero.

>>558925512
enjoy getting the shit beat out of you in prison as a kiddie diddler

>>558941648
Money is no object, go into debt.
I did and that was difference between 2 years probation and 7 years max. Don't get a shit lawyer. It's the rest of your fucking life bro.

BTW I sold herion and cocaine.

>>558941648
If it was only a matter of facts you should/would be freed, but law nowadays is more about how you look and how you act. Try to look cool, don't lose your temper in front of the cops/lawyer/judges or whatever...

>>558942408
Will do.

>>558943457
I'll keep that in mind.

won't there be a lie detection test if there is no other evidence?

>>558925512
kek'd. done same thing when i was around 12. now i'm 20. should i wait for it too?

>>558925512
lol i was waiting or a twist at the end. no twist, you just dun goofed

>>558943787
Also, try to find everything that could discriminate you so that they can't use it against you.
Angain it's a matter of appearence, you need to be Mr Perfect.

And good luck btw.

>>558944618
Don't know, the cops aren't excactly rushing the case. Four weeks pass between interrogations and meanwhile all I have to do is sit and panic(not anymore but the first few weeks).

>>558944669
I don't know, probably. Nothing would surprise me.

>>558945024
how old is she now

>>558945345
Uhm, about 10 or 12.... I'm not sure.

>>558945345
this anon. why is she choosing to make this a case NOW?

>>558925512

>2014
>Actually trusting your lawyer

Why the fuck didn't you just tell him you did nothing. Jesus fucking christ OP

>>558945786
i think she told her mommy, momy wants vengeance

>>558946119
lie detection maybe.

>>558925512
did you fingerblast her op?

Since this is /b/ I'm probably the only one who thinks OP should come clear.

He groped a little kid at an age he should have known better.

If OP loses the case, he'll feel fucked up but it helps the girl get some closure. If OP wins, he evades justice while that will probably fuck up the girl.

>inb4 moralfag

>>558945786
>>558946179
bring this up.
>>558944618
>>558946364
lie detection tests are stupid, not many countries use them.
if OP happen to need to pass trough one of those,its fairly easy
All about heartbeats and google is your friend.

>>558944618
they don't work, only FMRI is remotely useful and that's far too new and so easy to 'misinterpret' that researchers who study it for a living unconsciously twist data to match what they expect

that said all forensics (except DNA) is bollocks, and people are convicted for it every day

>>558927762
he admitted to his lawyer, his lawyer in all his power will work for him because of that dosh

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>>558927996
>no one is to be whiteness
>be whiteness
u wot m8

>>558928564
>from a fucking small country in Europe
I call BS. erryone knows yurps buttfuck their kids on the reg with no fucks given. its legal there.

You fucked nigga. I too have something like this, but the guy wasn't underage and it's been 7 years. You could an hero...it might the smart thing to do...life as a felon is tough.

>>558947382
fuck your english molested lil bitch

>>558946179
The standard procedure here is to take children that talk about being assaulted or raped to a specialist and the only thing they say if a name comes up is "sue them".

>>558946525
No, I did not even go inside her panties.

>>558946783
Indeed it would help her get closure, I should have known better and it fucking sucks. But I'm thinking that me going to jail and owing shitloads of legal expense isn't really justice.

>>558947382
I'll keep that idea on the back burner for now.

>>558926532
this thread. just screencapped and will soon send to feds so they can use this as evidence.

no mercy for pedos.

>>558931556
>psychological evaluation
Is this of her or you? I highly doubt a 2 second finger blastin' fucked her up that much. Stories don't grow on trees, bitch had to pay somehow.

>>558946783
moralfag yeah.
>he should have known better.
>fuck up the girl.
not really. how does OP losing or winning would make her life better?
Girl didnt suffered at all.
Also, what we are saiyng is all about the justice system. Denying IS the best option in this case

>>558947739
op already stated he doesn't live in the usa so good luck with that

>>558927684
Not in America. Lawyer-client privilege.

>>558947739
>Everyone lives in America

>>558947739
Could you upload a copy, that way I can bring the local PD up to speed on monday.

>>558947960
>proud to be sandnigger

>>558935154
>numerous occasions this same niece came to my home
You just couldn't leave her alone could ya?

>>558947936
Not true. US lawyers can't suborn perjury. Have to withdraw if you know your client will lie on the stand.

>>558925512

Isn't there a time limit to being charged with stuff?

>>558947841
Evidently it did.

>>558948396
even if there is, it's definetly not 4 years

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>>558925512

>this whole story
>this whole thread
>die with sage faggot

>>558948396
There is, statute of limitations, not sure how long in this case though

>>558948461
No it did not
>>558947557
>I did not even go inside her panties.

The girl didn't suffered, the case is your aunt's doing. She is either paranoid or is getting revenge on you.

>>558948461
Nigga please, current trends in phycological studies regarding childhood abuse (sexual, non-violent) leaves very little of a lasting mark if any at all provided no recurring pain is involved and I'm talking sucking dick and shit, I highly doubt a pet on the pussy did jack shit.

>inb4 [citation needed]
>Educate yourselves, I wasn't put on this rock to breastfeed you info cunts.

>>558947904
If she remembered 4 years later then clearly it did do something to her.

I know that many here like to think it's all fine and blown out of proportions, but it actually can fuck someone up when they're touched inappropiately. It's an intrusion of their bodies for someone's sexual pleasure. That's wrong.

A minor financial compensation and, more importantly, the admission in itself will probably be enough to help her with closure. It just sucks how jailtime and a lifetime of stigma usually happens, which is just needlessly over the top.

ok so here's the thing.

in the US you would be fucked. touchin a kid in the US is like murdering one in europe. So since you're in europe, you're probably not gonna go to jail.

Second: You were underage. So you're gonna get some youth offender sentence which will most probably mean no jail at all. parole and/or workin in some elderly home for sick amounts of hours.

Ok listen, the worst that could happen is you gettin on the news for that shit. They ALWAYS exegerate with that crap. "Molested his niece" is all the write and people think you fucked her in the ass. That apparently did not happen and since you were able to "talk with friends" about it, and you're getting their support, you're pretty much a lucky man.

If you can afford it, get an experienced lawyer known to get people out of that shit.

Good luck.

>>558949578
It's not damaging and traumatizing as rape, but groping is a matter of principle.
OP "took" something as personal as a someone's own body for their own. The girl had her body used by OP involuntarily, and as long as nothing is done with that, it will always be remain the situation where someone used her and just walked away with it. That stings.

As with theft, the only possible way to set things right, is literal payback.

>>558948023
Because the world consists of America and that place you saw bombed on the news last week

>>558949927
You are retarded. It most certainly is blown out of proportion. You are what is wrong with our society. You perpetuate our world's obsession with portraying oneself as a victim.

>>558950897
>OP "took" something
I wasn't aware OP had torn the little girls labia off, thanks for clearing that up. She was 6 dumbass, the majority of the 5-9 stage of life is forgotten by adulthood. Also, this sounds like a typical case of an outside party (in this case the aunt) causing the girl to view herself as a victim. I don't blame the girl, her heads not on right, she's starting to go through puberty and the nightmares that accompany that but do you really think this would be a problem if the aunt hadn't blown it out of proportion?

>>558949927
>>558950897
you are not helping OP
Slipery slope fallacy detected.
you are turning the events into exagered eufemisms, that have a diferent meaning.
Girl didnt suffered. And if you really want to argue about it, at least do it decently

How the fuck do I screencap this?

post more stories

>>558926307
>this anon, better lawyer than OP's

>>558952174
roll all the way up
press "prt sc" button
open paint
press Ctrl+V
roll down thread
repeat.

>>558925512
move to canada

>>558951997
No as you can see I'm pretty much balancing in the grey area. Many people would say OP is a fucking rapist, should be locked up and that the kid is scarred for life.
/b/ on the other hand is ridden with pedophiles who cling on the idea that sexual harrassment towards kids isn't such a big deal, or some even claim that kids actually like it.

First group of people wants to hate mindlessly, second one wants to fuck children.

I'm not even a kid, but if some faggot would grab my dick and run off, I would also rage and feel for more easily relieved of that if I manage to get some form of juridical compensation from him. It's a matter of privacy, principle and respect.

>>558953341
>balancing in the grey area.
>any people would say OP is a fucking rapist, should be locked up and that the kid is scarred for life.
Topkek

>
I'm not even a kid, but if some faggot would grab my dick and run off, I would also rage and feel for more easily relieved of that if I manage to get some form of juridical compensation from him. It's a matter of privacy, principle and respect.
What if he read you a bedtime story first?

>>558925512
Not too sure about the legal areas of this case, but I can tell you this: Most psychologists think that the whole "repressed trauma" thing is complete bullshit. It's widely agreed upon in the field that therapists use faulty techniques to bring these "memories" to the surface. How old was the girl at the time?

>>558953615
Whoops.

>>558953615
I don't think you completely understood what I was (quite obviously) pointing out with my first two sentences.

>>558953691
She would have been about 5-6 years old I think.

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>>558953836
I don't think you understand what rape is, kiddo

>>558953341
so if random stranger grabs your dick(without removing your underwer), and run a away you would sue him?
Suing someone for randomly touching your groin area?
Thats fucked up!
Are you so insecure about your genitals that you would nedd compensation for that?

>>558947739
Screencapped screencapping pedo case thread. You're gonna be v& too. No mercy for pedo-thread lurkers.

>>558952174
you are guilty you committed child sexual abuse
admit your guilt in a court of law and accept whatever punishment you are given like a man

>>558927295

My uncle was falsely charged based on testimony only. When the girl was an adult, she told the judge that it never happened and she was put up to it by family to fuck him over. Judge refused to remove the charges, his life was fucked over it. Welcome to the new witch hunt.

>>558927295
>"fuckin sage"
>doesnt sage

>>558954514
would you please post the screen cap here, friend?

>>558954142
(sigh) Alright. I laid out two common extremes I both don't agree with. By writing that many would accuse OP of rape, I presented the statement many others would have; not me.

>>558954287
This kid doesn't have to sue. She just told on him and others do the rest. If I could get compensation with that much ease, I would make use of that.

>>558953953
That is unfortunate; if she had been <3, they would have had absolutely no case.

I would find a better, more specialized lawyer, though. If a lawyer can prove that the therapist on her side tricked her into creating a false memory (which is excessively common in therapy; it's incredibly easy to convince someone that something happened and have them vividly "remember" it) you could even countersue and walk away a winner. This has been a hot topic for a while in the psychology community and I'm sure there must be some lawyer qualified to tread those waters.

>>558954943
So you are saying that you would feel bad for someone touching your underwear in a point where you send someone to jail.
Is touching underwear as bad as going to jail?

>>558947739
this could be some wierd dude making up shit stories for shits n giggles

>>558950897
so she gets a 3-second-cop-a-feel?

>>558927415
It's way easier to defend someone who's guilty than someone who's innocent. The innocent person will go to great lengths to clear his name, but the guilty guy just wants to get off

Knowing whether the defendant is guilty or not can help him strategize his case

>>558925512
Why on earth did you tell your lawyer the truth? Your lawyer is not your friend any more than the cops are. The best answer to any question is i dont recall or i dont know, you can never be 100% sure of the answer to any question. That was advice from my lawyer.

>>558938510
>be me
>be shitposting

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>>558954824
Of course, mr. Heaven. Let's get this scumbag ID: Sv6ImOhF, he's had it coming

>>558955716
>but the guilty guy just wants to get off
That's what got him in this situation in the first place.

>(sigh)
How terribly passive-aggressive and condescending.

>I laid out two common extremes I both don't agree with.
You will need to clarify exactly what your argument is then because I don't go for the pushing of one's fuzzy agenda.

>I don't think you completely understood what I was (quite obviously) pointing out with my first two sentences.
Incorrect, your first 2 sentences don't represent both side of the argument but that's a bit pedantic of me. I admit I didn't fully comprehend your post but that has something to do with my inebriation and, If we are honest, your last few posts weren't as clear.

>>558954726
do you have a case name or number?
any info to find it so OP can reference it and compare it to his case

>>558955716
he got off back when he was 16

>>558955649
Never mentioned jail.

It would piss me off and it would calm me down if I get an amount of money off the guy as compensation. Jailtime is pointless.
Though the popular "scarred for life" is often very exaggerated, kids are more vulnerable so it's better to assume it's worse for them.

>>558956915
I'm fine with disagreement. It just frustrates me when people are so eager to get annoyed at what you're saying without taking the time to read things properly read things, so I have to explain stuff. Plus I'm sleep deprived so everything feels like it requires twice as much energy than it should.

same thing happened to me only i was 13 and they found out when i was 17. I was found guilty and just got released 2 months ago. your fucked

>>558957959
>to read things properly read things

what the hell is this abomination

>>558958096
btw im 21 now

>>558958096
bullshit

>>558927180
>her word against mine
>"did you do it?"
>I admit to the lawyer

sounds like you and her are in total agreement, not "her word against mine"

>>558925512
Why the fuck would you do that Op thats pretty fucking faggy

>>558958096
>>558958383
Where the fuck do you live, Feminisia?

>>558958123
Sleep deprivation incarnate.

>It just frustrates me when people are so eager to get annoyed at what you're saying without taking the time to read things properly
You've been here before right? Not exactly the creme de la creme of society.

>>558925512
drink bleach, live forever

To everyone saying OP will have it easy because europe:
>live in europe
>country I live in is strongly against pedophiles
>if convicted ans released never be able to get a job or hobby.
>most likely won't be able to buy/rent a house.
>chances of getting killed by local population.

>>558959412
At least I'll have something to look forward to.

>>558960348
Don't know how your cou try is.
This also depends on how public your case was and who finds out.

>>558960792
The case is very hush hush. I'm not sure about the finding out part, there are organizations dedicated to putting faces to the names of child molesters. I'll just have to hope for the best if I lose.

>>558961198
You need cheering up. How about a joke?

When Muslim parents have to use the, "Open wide, here comes the air-plane!" technique, do they just smash it in their face and make explosive noises?

>>558961475
Don't know about OP but you cheered me up.
Thanks Anon

>>558961475
Thanks for that, it was very cheerful. I think i'll leave you on a happy note, time for sleep in this unjust european country. Good night my decadent friends.

>>558947739
>The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.