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Is there any drug/medication that helps coping with social anxiety but in an invisible manner, so no alcohol, weed or whatever. Would appreciate that !
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Look up Phenibut.

If i know i need to go to places where many people are, i take like 2 or 3 500mg capsules.

Its like 30$ for 90 capsules
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>>557116278
more

of

that
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>>557116278
Caffeine makes you more talkative, drugs that directly deal with anxiety work in pretty similar ways to alcohol (benzodiazapines) so don't even bother.

Maybe opiates? That's more like a "lol I don't give a fuck about you" feeling though, some people say it helps, I reckon it makes you an asocial twit.
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Propranolol
They are the total best thing ever
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Bang some H in your veins and you will be fine
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>>557116454
>>557116598
>>557116684
thanks for the answers ! So you can confirm there's no visible sign that you're on some kind of drugs ? It'd be in a work environment with strict policy regarding alcohol/drugs.
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nzt
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Coffee stimulates dopamine production in your brain, makes you happy. Caffine from it gives you energy and focus. Positive attitude goes a long way. Also, don't be afraid of rejection, I get rejected sometimes, I don't let it go to my head though...jot everyone "gets along". Good luck op
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>>557116278

Are you Dan Bilzerian?
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>>557116467
twitter/danbilzerian
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>>557116907
So when I mentioned opiates I was thinking stuff like codeine and hydrocodone, using heroin is like using DMT when you've never done shrooms or weed.

>>557116936
Opiates are pretty invisible, then again so is weed if you have tiny doses.

If it's at work, I don't recommend you use any drug. Maybe learn to meditate or something?
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Xanax man. If you take it when you're already tired it might be obvious though.
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>>557117002
I think I wouldn't be asking that question if I was !
>>557116969
Not to socialize. I'm just taking a job where I'm facing customers and it makes me anxious, fear of the unknown or whatever I guess. It's purely environmental since I can socialize quite well in lots of situations.
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Instant release adderall , take 2 10g of them bitches
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>>557116278
How about you go to a fucking GP, he'll probably give SSRI's or some shit, look it up. GP's don't know shit thought so I would go through him to get a psych appointment. If not you may as well do some blow, that'll work you out nice and easy. Fucking retard, don't self medicate, are you dumb nigger?
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>>557117126
>implying weed is a psychedelic
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>>557116278
Testosterone.

Eat lots of zinc (Meat, almonds etc.) and start working out.
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>>557116278
cipralex

i used to stress, now I'm chill as fuck.
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>>557117684
Also, don't jack off so much.
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>>557117683
>implying it's not
People like you... do you consider caffeine a stimulant?
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>>557116278
Benzo's
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>>557117830
yes caffien is an upper. But weed is somewhere on its own
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>>557117826
Easier said than done
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>>557117830
Caffeine is a fucking stimulant.
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>>557118050
>somewhere on its own
No, it's not.

It's an extremely light psychedelic. If you smoke enough of it and don't have a tolerance, you can even have closed eye visuals. THC is by any definition a psychedelic
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Try a .357 long barrel.
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ignore every post in this thread.

klonopin.
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>>557118160
its more like a del or dis than a psy
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>>557118079
Sure, not impossible though.
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>>557118276
This OP, post results
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>>557118767
>marijuana
>deleriant
>marijuana
>dissociative
Now you're just being silly, anon.
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>>557116936
Propranolol is a beta blocker. I used to use them for social anxiety exaclty the same problem as you have. ask the doctor for these.
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Pretty much any beta blockers will do the trick. Tell your doc you get shortness of breath in public and find yourself avoiding social events and public transport. Obviously don't tell him what prescription you're after just vaguely describe symptoms until he suggests meds. Reluctantly accept, enjoy your new life.
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>>557118912
>marawana
>psy
by your logic I should be seeing fractals. They are two different experiences.
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You'll talk too much and make an ass of yourself.
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>>557116278
Take a half of viagra. Or a more inexpensive way, go to the gas station and get a box of Herb Viagra and take 2 pills.
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>>557116278

Why don't you just try assuming control of your own mind and telling that bitch when it will freak out and when it won't? Drugs that cause chemical imbalances in your brain will only make things worse for you, if you expect them to work in a certain way and aren't using them recreationally.
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>>557119202
People like you...

Just because caffeine doesn't make you PARTYHARDPARTYHARDPARTYHARD for 12 hours doesn't make it not a stimulant. Just because marijuana doesn't make you float in ethereal plains greeting elfish people doesn't mean it's not a psychedelic.

Seriously, you're all being awfully silly about this.
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>>557116278
I've stimulants are the best way to go, benzodiazepine either don't work for social anxiety (klonopin for me) or it makes you act drunk and say dumb shit (Valium and Xanax). Opiates, if you make a habit of them, make you completely unable to socialize. You don't really care that you can't socialize but it makes you boarder line autistic around people (especially when you're off it).
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>>557119202
Now I know you don't know what you're talking about.
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>>557119556
>Why don't you just try assuming control of your own mind and telling that bitch when it will freak out and when it won't?

Easier said than done.
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>>557119202
you just haven't taken enough at once, anon

OP, stay the fuck away from caffeine, it and weed will only make this worse.
Klonopin is your friend! The relaxed state of being stoned without any of the pesky introspection or creativity. Addictive though.
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>>557119556
Shut up you Mormon faggot
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>>557119587
>you're all
You were arguing with one guy, dude.
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>>557119202
Eat a couple brownies you should took a half of and see whats up.
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>>557116278
Try Testosterone you little beta.
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>>557119756
>>557119974
Guys... I don't think he wants to use benzos.

>>557120046
I thought there were two of him? My mistake.

>>557119779
I think he's gotten stoned before, it's just that some people meticulously deny any sort of psychedelia on weed... all sorts of shit will be going on in their heads, and they'll just be like:
>NAH MAN, NOT HIGH IN THE SLIGHTEST, JUST A LITTLE FEELING IT

>>557120059
That actually might be what he wants, it's a very different sort of feeling from smoking, brownies are hard to dose right though and taking too much for work would be horrible.
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>>557116278
Benzos do the trick in some cases, but are highly addictive.

I would rather stick to psychological therapy if I were you, and look up a good psychologist.

There are also legit self help approaches, maybe take a look at this book:
http://www.amazon.de/Mindfulness-Acceptance-Workbook-Anxiety-Shyness/dp/1608820807

A therapy with a professional would probably be your best option though, while taking any kind of drugs against anything should always be your last resort and not the first thing you try out.
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>>557119891

Of course it's easier said than done. Doing shit in a way that is more beneficial to you in the long run is always going to be harder than the easy alternative.

I spent 3 years of my life at home without any semblance of a social life because of my social anxiety. If I didn't know, first hand, that it's entirely possible to work around anxiety I wouldn't bother to post. It's an option. Nobody is obligated to take it seriously if they don't want to, but it might come to help an anon who is willing to do the hard work.
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>>557116598
Opiates will make you look like an idiot and if the person you're talking to has a bad day, you're fucked.
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>>557116454

Seems everyone talks about the withdrawal symptoms. Have you experience that on phenibut?
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>>557116454
I got a bit of experience with this

great substance cheap and effective however you should not take it more than two or three times a week because tolerance builds quickly one more thing do research on it and watch your dosing start off with half a gram or one pill depends what you buy

careful however it is addicting but nothing a little self discipline cant handle
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Phenibut
Aniracetam
Adderall/Speed/Meth/Amphetamine
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>>557116278

Why isn't your hand on her butt in the pic?

Jokes aside training will fix social anxiety. I always hate public presentations but after doing a few it gets easier even fun.

But if i wait a few weeks it gets hard again so it's like keeping fit, if you stop training you will get "unfit".
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Heads up, that's the point of benzos, a xanax or valium would do you well. If unavailable, they make some crazy "research chemical" benzo that you can legally buy, i can't remember its name though.

H works wonders too, but i guess a lot of people don't like the thought of doing it :/
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>>557120831
i think you're talking about etizolam
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>>557116936
Of course there's going to be a visual sign. If you take Phenibut you essentially will say anything and be too honest. Could lead to swearing. This is because Phenibut blocks GABA receptors and GABA receptors are found on interneurons that inhibit excitatory neurons. Caffeine will make you hyper and your eyes will fucking bulge. Terrifying if you do that to anyone in public. Propranolol is a beta blocker, or more precisely, a epinephrine beta receptor antagonist, which means you don't get the fight or flight response, so you'll be chill the entire time. Even if a bullet whizzes past your face you won't feel an adrenalin rush, so although you look totally relaxed you will also look uninterested to the person you're conversing with. Johns-Hopkins-Neuroscience-fag here.
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OP here,
Still lurking, thanks everyone for the answers, learning a lot even though lots of you have differing opinions. Guess I'll first try the "work on yourself" method, other than that the Propranolol seems to be the most adequate.
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Buspar might help. It's for anxiety.
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>>557117292
It will also make you tired because it's benzodiazapine, a hypnotic.
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>>557121369
Bullshit what did you take 10 grams of phenibut and 800mg of caffeine? none of that happens and you can control your words just fine
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>>557120572
Benzo's addictive? Only if you're addicting to falling asleep.
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>>557121667
OP do you skydive, or do crazy shit? If you did you'd develop a natural tolerance for adrenalin, so you'll get rid of anxiety pretty easily. Horror movies will get boring though, beware.
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>>557116278
>helps coping with social anxiety
>but in an invisible manner, so no alcohol, weed or whatever

> wants psychoactive substance that changes thought patterns as relates to outward expression
> doesn't want thought patterns changed such that outward expression is different

You're one conflicted fuck
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>>557123089
I meant that weed gives you the red eyes, alcohol smells 3m in front of you. I don't care if I talk in an apathetic way.

>>557122808
No but that's actually something I'm gonna consider, thanks.
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>>557123461
>I meant that weed gives you the red eyes,

I smoke every day, multiple times a day, and this doesn't happen to me unless I cough or get REALLY high. I just take a small toke every few hours to keep my social since I'm on the phone a lot at work. Since I started doing this, management praised me for how much my personability improved. Top kek
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>>557123657
Gonna try this not at work see how it affects me. Would be cool if that's all it takes !
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>>557123657
Weed makes me more socially anxious since I'm in a non-legal state, "Oh shit do they smell it i fucking know he smelled it he gave me that look"
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>>557116278
Adderall / Ritalin have me speak non stop

Maybe try Nuvigil, its like real life limitless
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>>557123818

You need a pretty heavy tolerance to make it work. Try smoking after work and on weekends.

Most of the short-term affects of marijuana (e.g. red eyes, bad short-term memory, impaired cognition) are ameliorated in chronic users. In Washington they did a test of cannabis use on driving, and the long-term medical users did fine whereas the weekend-toker drove dangerously.
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weed
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>>557124039

Alternatively, try nootropics. You can try taking Piracetam and choline, as some people report that it improves social awareness as well as overall cognition.
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>Cortisone oral pill.

I had to use it for two week. This shit if fucking strong. Many side affect but ive fuck 2 new girl out of nowhere in those two week.
You are just so much active, happy and productive. Was totally a new guy.
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Alcohol master race reporting in. Just drink some Ouzo and that's it bro.
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>>557123461
>I meant that weed gives you the red eyes, alcohol smells 3m in front of you. I don't care if I talk in an apathetic way.
Oh.

You really do want benzos then.

I thought you didn't want to act visibly intoxicated, this is fine then.

Go to a psychiatrist, put a million nicotine patches on, tell him you have anxiety, don't overdo it and get your script.
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>>557116278
>social anxiety

Oh you poor thing!

How about a good slap upside the head, and someone to yell "Stop being suck a pussy!"
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Anxiety drugs are fucking useless. Use a mood balancing and brain enhancing drug like 5-htp or piracetam, or deal with your issues long term with biannual sessions of ecstacy and lsd.
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Vaginalium. Take 2 doses once a day, and your anxiety just fades away.
Either that or you're just too happy to care.
Vaginalium, ask your doctor if she's right for you!
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>>557124019
Do not try Adderall. The eventual psychosis is not worth it.
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>>557116278
Venlafaxin
Sertralin
Cymbalta
Genereally speaking, any mood-stabilisers should do.
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There is no drug to fix your problem. You have to conquer your demons yourself. Trust me on this one. It won't be easy or painless but holy fuck will it feel nice to be out of that chapter.
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>>557126020
Sometimes true, sometimes not. Drugs can break really intese spirals. Not everybody has an internal initializing force.
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>>557125690
>Cymbalta
That stuff works pretty OK, but I personally cannot take it as I experienced multiple feinting spells/blackouts at random sparse intervals after my dosage was in full effect.

But go ahead and try it. It can also be prescribed as a painkiller/anti anxiety+depression
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>>557116278
If you take a large amount of LSD you will experience agonizing introspection, which if you accept, will force you to change the way you act and live.
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