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Hello /b/. Is Tor safe to use? Can I just browse the deep web anonymously with just the Tor browser?

Not really interested in the whole "illegal" part of the deepweb, just what technology the government is keeping hidden from us.
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>>556194518
hi nsa agent. how are u today
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>>556194518
its safe.
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>>556194518
>conspiracies man!
>420 blaze it!
Physicist here, there is nothing nothin being hidden you would understand
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>>556194518
better stay away from tor, op. i just logged in once and 1 hour later FBI raided my house
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>>556194571
kek good one
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i never used tor but i can tell you that chrome is better than ie
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>>556194518
Go to unichan
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>>556194697
How safe?

>>556194714
And how would you know that?
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>>556194725
> 1 hour later FBI raided my house
to slow
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I heard its safe unless you use windows
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>>556194987
I use windows 8
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>Hello /b/. Is Tor safe to use? Can I just browse the deep web anonymously with just the Tor browser?
Totally. FBI is too poor to hire actual professionals. They still consider naval invasion of Belarus.
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It's safe, but pretty dead. The government took down a good portion of it. The hidden wiki isn't even legitimate anymore.
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>>556195173
How frequent can one browse it? Head the hidden wiki contained all the onions.

Is there anything I should know to keep myself safe from anything explicit? lol it's my first deepweb tour.
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>>556194892
Because the government don't come up with these things that would be hidden.
Anything worth hiding would have to be made in private with many people working on the project
The government don't have a secret sect of scientists who do this.
Therefore it doesn't exist.
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>>556195381
>contained all the onions
no
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>>556194930
2Slow4You
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>>556194518
Absolutely safe (but be ready to some magic with ur anus)
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>>556195381
1. There is no one collection of all .onions. That would be impossible, and they are not indexed.
2. To keep yourself safe, read the "How to stay anonymous on Tor" by Tor them self. (Its on there webpage somewhere.)
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Just did this thread, too tired to type it all again.

If you want to play with this there is only one way to mess with it.

1) download TAILS, the free amnesic operating system.
2) boot your pc into tails from either usb or cd and have at it

Don't use torbrowser, there is a slight risk in using tor browser and a clear net browser at the same time, though the risk is low.

Not, that said, there is nothing illegal about "deepweb" or using tor but there is always a chance you'll happen upon some random .onion site with god knows what on it, so better safe than sorry.

https://tails.boum.org/
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>>556194518

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>>556194825
What is musician? Link please.
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Bitch, you know you want to fap to CP.
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>>556196231

2 things with this one

1) These guys have overblown their claims or
2) They have let the tor developers know ahead of time and the exploit will be fixed by August 7.

More likely a combination of both.
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>>556195768
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>>556196002
Would a 7gb usb work? So, I just boot up tails as my OS from Windows are when I start my PC? Then, once Tails is loaded, just browse with Tor?

>>556196401
Naah, never really been into that stuff.
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black hat hacker? listen im a grey fedora computer hacker mcCracker bro. I can get into any unlocked system by pushing my keys in very fast arrangements that you don't understand. being a hacker is a lonely life, but it makes me have power to do good or bad so as i choose. don't fuck on me bro
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>>556196878
>get into any unlocked system
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>>556196825

7 gig USB is more than enough.

Your pc needs to be able to boot from usb in the bios, this has nothing to do with Windows or whatever you have on your hard drive, it's a complete operating system on its own (debian variant) and 100% of its traffic is sent through the tor network.
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>>556197015
>Your pc needs to be able to boot from usb in the bios

Or you can just boot from CD of course.
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>>556197150
>>556197015
Thanks, I'll give it a shot.

Shouldn't get into any legal trouble with what I'm doing, but better to be safe than sorry.
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>>556194518
Because of certificates and ip and mac address there is no real way to use something like Tor reliably the main reason that people can do it is that on a level like that there are so many of them that it is impossible to do it and get more than a few of the more lazy ones the way that most of them do it is through a third party that is unaware and never from the same spot twice with hardware that has been custom built for faking a mac address because ip are not that reliable a type of information for prosecution of felony offenses because contiguous information is not trace or circumstantial it is not even documentary and cannot be acted on unless there is documentary evidence in whole.
I have a wifi snoop pc that I made to watch a group of pedophiles trade with adhoc and proxy and it's pretty scary how many come over to the watering hole like clockwork....ove and over and over again.
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>>556197805
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>>556194518
"New report says the NSA is checking who visits Tor's website"

Nah not safe
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I use for on my tablet
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>>556198179
here's one.
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>>556198179
>>556198804

What the fuck is this?
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>>556198804
used injunction with...
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Can i post on 4chan with Tor?

Last time i tried - Tor was banned.
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>>556194518
Tor hasn't been safe since anon crashed it to remove the OPVA archives.
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Just smoked some weed and now going on my first tour of the deep web. The one thing I really dont want to see is cp is there anyway to avoid this or at least avoid having it near my system or should I just stay away from deep web?
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>>556198969
If you prepared three servers in advance and you know what you want and where it is and you had one server to cover you before you started accessing what you wanted one for during and one that would be to cover yourself after than you could do what you wanted and no one would know because of the way that certificates IP and Mac-address work for all computers linked to the internet and the way that instances services and logs that both generate on tour personal computer and the something for the servers that run and host the internet as we know it.
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>>556199021
naw u can't
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>>556199292
Decided to use Tor without Tails until I get a flash drive.

The second Onion I clicked on Torchan had a bunch of kid models. It wasn't CP, but looked suspicious.

Fuck this shit.
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>>556194518
how bout some onion for hc
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>>556195591
Actually you are kinda with this because there are places like Area 51 where they develop new secretive technology. Now I'm not talking about UFO'S and shit but they did develop the stealth technology in secret. Lockheed and the US military made the SR-71 there in the early sixties. They are goin to keep that stuff secretive because you don't want your enemies to know what you are capable of.
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>>556199559
warum?
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>>556195381
one cannot "browse" the deep web. It's anonymous.
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>>556201465
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Hai guyz lol so wans I git the tor how do u find the cp????? Is there website lol or something idk xD
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BAMP
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Pedophilia is an evil scourge on society.This website promotes it.You can dwell within this sick sin or combat the problem.
If you indulge in pedophilia (the destruction of innocence) you are in actual fact killing your own spiritual self,and eventually your physical self.
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>>556202710
I don't believe in any of this bullshit, but kids
and animals that cannot defend themselves, shouldn't be touched. If they can, I don't give a shit.

>>556202430
What for?
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>>556203054
believe whatever you so choose to ...it wasnt a jesus diatribe.feel free to destroy your spiritual self ... know the every moment of your living existance you are being watched by your dead ancestors as well as an endless labryinth of other entities.
everything happens for a reason ..maybe even this moment in time.
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>>556198324
Who is this anon?
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>>556194518
What's Tor?
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magic
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>>556203804
What I did to ye mums arse hole last night
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>>556194518
Tor?
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>>556203759
Yea, thanks. I didn't sign a contract when I entered this life where I had to believe in any of this.
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It's not 100% safe since just about anyone can setup nodes even the NSA, CIA and FBI
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>>556203759
Funny idea that one of the labryinth
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being truly anonymous online is not actually difficult, but it has nothing to do with your browser. you just have to be a normal adult with a decent amount of money to spend on the costs of it. all you do is:

1) buy a laptop, netbook, or tablet with cash
2) only ever use it at public wifi hotspots (libraries, cafes, etc.)
3) be patient enough to never log in to your personal shit while there

that is fucking it. just get an extra computer that you only use in public wifi settings and then do whatever the fuck you want. womp womp. sorry you're all teens and can't just wander around doing what you want whenever but some day these amazing powers will be available to you.
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>>556204068
Then continue your blind existance.Allow this website to continue its mental programming agenda,its working very well with you.
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>>556194518
I used it on my phone for a bit. Never had any legal issues.
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>>556204601
care to elaborate?
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>>556205092
Shame they do not have it for windows phone products.

>>556204762
Sounds too easy. Everyone would be doing this.
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>>556205347
Android master race.

Nah, I kinda wanted a windows phone.
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>>556195125
KEK'D TOO DAT nice one op
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>>556194518
No, the minimum is tails and even then dont assume you are untraceable. You have to have a very good knowledge of computers and the net to be truly untraceable. Just dont look at pizza or do anything stupid and you'll be okay with tails.
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>>556200478
Someone has used Tor to post cp on 4chan
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>>556205742
Gotcha. Should be safe, anything with jb, cp, or pedo is a dead giveaway.

Worst I saw was >>556199713
and the Silk road or whatever.

Just trying to find some conspiracy theories out there.
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>>556204762
>Sorry you aren't plebs aren't sophisticated enough fap to kiddy porn in a McDonald's.
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Its not illegal to use hidden services on the web, as long as the service isnt cp or something then you are fine. Its not illegal to look at the market places, its just illegal to order from them.
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TOR is only safe as its weakest link:You.
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All of the Tor exit nodes ip addresses have been blocked from posting here.
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>>556205207
I ask you where does the idea of "every moment of our living being watch by dead ancestors as well as an endless labryinth of other entities" come from. Do you share that belief?
I'm curios about that kind of entities could you be refering to, I found it interesting, therefore funny.
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>>556206039
They cant always tell what you are looking at on tor, but if they take an interest in you they have ways of finding out over time. Im not knowledgeable enough to know how they do it.
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>>556203759
Ahahahaha.
I agree with your anti-pedo stance but your 2/x/4me diatribe is laughable.
What makes your religion different from the other religions. Oh, that's right. You have a feeling, you saw the truth in a dream after meditation.
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>>556206313
couldnt help yourself could you.
fast forward to the future,to the exact moment of your final breath.die knowing the only thing your life on this earth created was more misery.
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>>556204902

Oh, look, guise. This guy took the "red pill". He *knows* what he speaks is truth because he "researched" articles on geocities sites.
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>>556198398
The nature of the way tor works makes this incredibly difficult. You must use tor the exact same way every time for a long time before they can sniff out your footprint.
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>>556205347

Just like everyone uses a different password for all of their accounts so if one gets compromised they don't get the rest of their shit owned by default right?

The best way to not get caught, is don't be worth the resource expenditure for the feds. That means making yourself a harder target than the next douche. And making yourself a hard target is a full-time job.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3taxVjKCdY
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>>556206819
wat?
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>>556206725
nobody needs a religion to know what is good or bad.
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>>556205347
It is too easy, with cameras, etc. Plus, using public wifi and they see that someone is looking at something they shouldn't, they'll be the first to contact the feds. It won't be too long after looking through cameras and what not who was there at the time, and then proceed to investigate.
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>>556207226

True. It's your consequences you speak of I'm talking about.
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since the hidden wiki is gone, does anyone have a decent sized comprehensive list of some good .onion sites?
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>>556206560

Wrong.
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>>556206313
Perfect example.
That link requires javascript to be viewed, something the feds can exploit to their advantage.
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>>556206897
doing your best impression of an impotent shill?
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Also note that to be safe on an Android device it has to be rooted.
Non rooted Androids leak your ip address. Google it to get the full info.
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>>556207428
No, it isn't. Reddit's Deepweb has the link.
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>>556207495

What makes your ancestor/labyrinth hell any different from other religions when it comes to validity?
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>>556207617
Ironically reddit has the best list of links.
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>>556194518
>Is a program created by the government's military safe from the same government?
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>>556195173
It's back up.

http://zqktlwi4fecvo6ri.onion
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>>556207617
Current hidden wiki link

http://zqktlwi4fecvo6ri.onion
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You might find this useful too

http://silkroad6ownowfk.onion
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>>556195591
you think the govt. don't have a secret group of scientists.. if so your stupid.
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Link to Reddit Deebweb?
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>>556208731
inb4 shit typos
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>>556208789
Just search it.
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>>556208789
/r/DeepWeb
/r/Tor
/r/ImALazyFaggotWhoLikesCP
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>>556207897
>would a program created by the government military for the government military to hide their secrets etc have intentional back doors that maybe enemy teams could find?

tor was not designed with the civilian market in mind, and the US government still uses the same tor everyone else uses, china or others would easily find any intentional back doors since large parts of the source code are freely available.

so yea, you retard, its pretty safe, not 100% but if its safe enough for them its safe enough for us
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>>556208789

/r/onions is the best subreddit
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>>556207435
>4chan FAQ
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Moshi moshi?
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any deepweb links for good jb pron that is not down?
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>>556211431
lol this guy
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>>556194518
Tor wasn't ever realy "safe", only more safe then normal browsers. it gives you the possibility to use hidden services, but they arn't safe too.
Nothing is realy safe. but as long as you dont give the gov. a reason to get your ass, you will be safe.
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>>556211431
Try prime ass teens. It's my go to. It's on the clearweb, but I use TOR just to be safe. It's a really nice site if you make an account.
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Anyone got any good TOR stories?
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>>556212529
I'm pretty sure I met an undercover cop in a c-p forum once, if you're interested.
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>>556212697
Do tell.
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>>556212697
Always interested in a good yarn, m8
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>>556212697
come on, tell me my son/fag
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>>556194697
thanks obama
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>>556212697
Very interested to hear
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>>556212812
Well alright.
>Be browsing deep web, second or third time, just looking for cool things
>Have found literally nothing of interest thus far
>Finally run across a link to a supposed c-p forum (Was called NewCumers)
>Follow the link and 5 minutes later I'm chatting it up with pedophiles and viewing illicit pictures of minors
>One guy invites me to private chat
>His username was NodAnon or something like that (Another user's name was RumpleForeskin and I've been using that ever since)
>We're just casually talking and discussing random things
>Tells me about how he has sex with his toddler
>Interesting.jpg
>After a while he says he has to go but asks me to give him my Email so we can keep in touch
>Me be like no way, friend
>"Come on dude just use a throw-away or something, don't be a downer"
>Don't be a downer
>A downer
>Downer
> At this point I know this guy isn't legit and he continues for 5 minutes to get personal info out of me, ie my first name, country, state
>I ended up noping the fuck out of there out of fear that me might be tracing my IP or something.
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>>556212071
Also, if anyone's planning on going here, hit me up on my account: Megustajailbait, I posted a ton of pics from FB
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>>556213764
Also, at one point he literally asked me
>Do you often view nude pictures of minors?
That set off every mental alarm in existence.
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>>556196409

lol denial sucks doesn't it?
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>>556213764
Best tip I've got is to just lurk when browsing for pizza.
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>>556214043
Mind giving link?
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>>556207428

>> hidden
>> posted on some of the highest traffic websites

lol why do you guys even bother, the feds are all over those honeypots
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>>556194518
There are rumors that the NSA has compromised Tor. Based on the Snowden leaks, Tor itself has not been compromised; rather, the NSA has used other methods to compromise Tor users. One of their tactics is to make people stop using Tor entirely. While it is true that nothing you do online is perfectly safe or anonymous, Tor is a fuck of a lot better than nothing, and if you're not an idiot and do everything right, chances are very low that you'll be identified by the NSA or any other adversary. But there's more to security than just using Tor. Don't use Windows or you're just begging to be keylogged and screenlogged. And make sure to set up Tor right, and to use it right.

Use the most recent version of the Tor Browser bundle (available at https://www.torproject.org/). Some old versions have a vulnerability. And if you try to set up Tor yourself instead of getting the bundle, you'll probably do something wrong. Just use the browser bundle. The Browser Bundle is a version of Firefox set up to run through the Tor network. After downloading the bundle, some of the settings that should be changed for optimal security:

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>>556216308
-Perhaps the most important thing: disable JavaScript. JavaScript is a very serious security threat, however disabling it will cause many websites to not work properly. To disable JavaScript completely, enable NoScript (installed but disabled by default in Tor Browser) by clicking the 'S' icon by the URL bar and clicking "Forbid Scripts Globally". Alternatively, type about:config in the URL bar, then search for 'javascript.enabled' and toggle it to false. Or do both to be extra secure. Keep in mind that while NoScript allows whitelisting specific websites to allow scripts, even if you trust the website you allow, the fact that you have that website whitelisted differentiates you from other Tor users. If you need to use Tor with scripts sometimes, it is advisable to have two copies of Tor Browser Bundle on your computer: one with scripts disabled entirely to use when you need maximum anonymity, and one with scripts enabled for when you want to be as anonymous as you can while still using scripts.

-In NoScript's settings, disable all embeddings (Java, @font-face, iframes, etc under the "Embeddings" tab)
-In Tor Browser's settings under Privacy, where it says 'Tor Browser will:', select 'Use custom settings for history'. The default option 'Never remember history' allows cookies. Make sure that 'Accept cookies from sites' is NOT checked. Make exceptions for sites you really need cookies for, and remove the exception after you're done with it.
-In Tor Browser's Privacy settings, do NOT 'tell websites I do not wish to be tracked', as this only sends a header that most sites will ignore anyway, and the header can be used to identify you.
-In Tor Browser's Security settings, do NOT block reported attack sites or block reported web forgeries, as they share your web traffic in order to work

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I saw a news message on NSA tracking down those who browse the tor download page. and keep you on a sort of a blacklist.
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>>556216376
-In the URL bar type about:config and change these (IMPORTANT: note that some of these settings might already be at the recommended setting by default; make sure you are changing it TO the recommend setting, not away from; for example, if geo.enabled is already set to false, just leave it):
network.http.use-cache false
browser.fixup.alternate.enabled false
dom.storage.enabled false
dom.storage.default_quota 0
gfx.downloadable_fonts.enabled false
network.http.sendRefererHeader 0
network.http.sendSecureXSiteReferrer false
geo.enabled false (it should already be set to this, just make sure)
geo.wifi.uri (in Windows, type 'localhost', in Linux, leave it blank)

There might be other settings in about:config that are worth changing, but do not change something just because someone tells you to -- they could be tricking you into compromising your security. Instead, do a web search for whatever setting they tell you to change (i.e. 'dom.storage.enabled' or 'geo.enabled') and read what it actually does.

Optionally: Disable OCSP validation. It communicates with clearnet servers. Edit->Preferences->Advanced->Encryption->Validation
(might be under Edit->Preferences->Advanced->Certificates->Validation instead)
This will only accomplish anything if you're only using Tor for the deepweb in your current Tor session. I heard that this would allow adversaries to switch your CA certs, I'm not familiar with this so I don't know if there is any risk to this.

If using Linux, do NOT run ./start-tor-browser --debug
The --debug option logs every hostname your Tor connects to.

Don't login to your account on any site, or go to any site that could be linked to you, in the same session as things you want to keep more private. Same goes for using different pseudonyms you do not want affiliated with each other. You can tell Tor to switch your identity, but you're better off exiting Tor Browser entirely and re-opening it.

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>>556216456
Avoid downloading files in Tor Browser if possible. If you must, only open them when you are not connected to the Internet. Some files can trick your computer into revealing your identity when opened.

If you want to be as secure as possible:
-Use a VPN (make sure it's a VPN that doesn't keep records and destroys data securely) in addition to Tor. However, many if not most VPNs will cooperate with feds, so it is important to find a trustworthy one. If you are not involved in anything political or have some specific use for a VPN and know a lot about them, you are probably better off just using Tor, not a VPN.
-Use TAILS (https://tails.boum.org/). TAILS is a very secure Linux-based operating system. However, it is made with security in mind, not usability, and is not ideal as an every day operation system. Rather, use it when you are doing something that you really want to keep anonymous.
-For local storage of files on Linux, use LUKS/dm-crypt. TrueCrypt is NOT secure. If you are using an OS other than Linux, chances are your files are not secure even if you encrypt them.
-For secure communications, use GPG-encrypted emails.
However, even with TAILS, Tor, and all of the other precautions you can think of, you're not perfectly safe. And if you're an idiot (i.e. if you use your real name or sign into an account associated with your real identity) you've just made all of the precautions you took pointless. Be smart and chances are they won't find you.

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>>556216521
If you ever browse the deep web, do NOT do so in the same Tor session that you browse the surface web. You may want to have an extra copy of Tor Browser Bundle on your computer with OCSP disabled and use it only for deep web browsing. If you use Tor only for things you want to keep anonymous on the surface web and never browse the deep web, and/or if you are not familiar with the deep web, ignore this paragraph.

And remember, the more people that use Tor, the safer it is. If only 20 people use Tor, the NSA will be able to track them all. If millions of people use Tor, the NSA won't be able to track any of them. So spread this, get your friends to use Tor, crosspost this. The NSA is trying to get people to stop using Tor. According to The Guardian regarding the Snowden leaks, 'A third [method of compromising Tor users] attempts to degrade or disrupt the Tor service, forcing users to abandon the anonymity protection.' We need to counter that by getting as many people as possible to use Tor.

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>>556194518
If you are not interested in the illigal stuff, the deep web has nothing to off you.

Its not like the normal wep you can just google shit. If you dont know what the fuck you are doing, its not worth going to.
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>>556216401
There's a difference between a blacklist and a watchlist m8, and if you've ever even been to the Tor website or done a web search for Tor you're already on it. Doesn't make a difference, with tens of millions of US citizens on the watchlists it accomplishes fuck nothing.
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>>556216723
Are you retarded? Start at Hidden Wiki. Go to Torchan or one of the many other sites. There's a lot of good stuff. Most or all of the stuff about gladiators and free energy and the like is fake but there's still good stuff.
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at this point it is obsolete
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>>556194801
this
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>>556216723
I just enjoyed learning new computer skills. eg Making a tails bootable usb drive and learning about pgp encryption. The only thing I like looking on is the markets.
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>>556195381
If you search for deep web sites on the surface web, 90% of them will be dead. Its pretty hard to find any good sites
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>>556216590
>>556216521
>>556216456
>>556216376
>>556216308

I just used Tor on windows. Should I be concerned?
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>>556217378
Depends what you were doing. But I wouldnt trust windows if it was illegal.
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>>556217542
Nothing explicit. Just minors modeling, and the black market. Was not intentionally looking for it.

Didn't stay over a minute.
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>>556218051
Dont listen to that faggot. Keylogging is not that easy.
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>>556218051
I dont know enough about computers to say you're safe. Looking on the markets isnt illegal if you just look, and if you didnt download the pics you would prolly be okay.
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>>556207746
Some of the smaller reddit communities are very helpful and generally point you exactly where you need to go.
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>>556194518
there was a some articles about this lately. tor is not safe to use at all, as revealed by the snowden leaks. even visiting the tor project site gets your ip on a list. but, then again, if youre not doing anything illegal you have nothing to worry about. also, do it through a VPN
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