Made of: fire
Size: 1.989 kilograms
Temperature: 5,778° Kelvin
Made of: ice
Size: 1.988 kilograms
Temperature: -5,778° Kelvin
WHO WILL WIN????
You're all idiots, this question is entirely legitimate and saying you can't have a negative Kelvin value is like saying you can't have a black hole without gravity
0 Kelvin is absolute zero, nothing can be colder than that
Well op if you were to switch the numbers around and change the measurements to c or f so it would be like -250 4k mass opposed to 2000 500 mass I would say 2000 500 mass if they started a decent length apart because the hot sun would begin melting the cold one long before the two touch
If we go by this, and they have an equal temperature difference, then the 'fire' sun should win, because it is slightly larger (by 0.001kg?), which means that the temperature that it has represents more energy.
WAIT!!! Everyone!!! If I'm correct, then the temperatures should even out, but there will not be enough energy to liquify the ice, so it will still be ice, just ice at 0 degrees centigrade.
We have a winner!! ICE SUN!
No because hot things can warm things farther away than cold things can cool from a distance, therefore the hot one would have a lead
Actually the larger one would represent less energy because of the heat/volume ratio. Did you know that humans have a greater heat/centimeter ratio than the sun does, according to vsauce? Also the hot sun wins in all balanced occosains if you look at what I said to the guy that I replied first in this post.
I disagree that things heat from far away quicker. The whole transfer of energy is through radiation through space, where some energy is lost from the fire sun, and gained by the ice sun. This is a lossless proccess. One other point is that while this proccess of energy transfer is occuring, the fire sun is also losing energy to space in all directions.
Just so you know, space is something like 30 kelvin, so the ice sun has another advantage.
The fuck is negative Kelvin?
If we're using nigger science then let's assume negative Kelvin exists. Ice has a higher heat capacity than air and thus would have more negative kilojoules in heat than the ball of fire with almost the same weight, so you'll end up with a ball of liquid hydrogen and ice at less than 0 Kelvin. But since this is nigger science, the only conclusion I can draw is that I will rob your bike. Case closed.
We are assuming that the ice and fire sun are made of the same material, which puts them on a more even playing field and negates the difference in specific heat capacity. I agree that ice does have a higher specific heat capacity than air, but I don't know about pure hydrogen. I will go and find that.
Also, I don't know much about negative kelvin, but I heard once that it is possible in some way according to quantum mechanics.
>Ice has a higher heat capacity than air and thus would have more negative kilojoules in heat than the ball of fire with almost the same weight, so you'll end up with a ball of liquid hydrogen and ice at less than 0 Kelvin.
>you'll end up with a ball of liquid hydrogen and ice at less than 0 Kelvin.
>ball of ice at less than 0 Kelvin
For the purposes of this experiment, any result over 0° Kelvin will be considered a victory for the fire sun, and vice versa.
The specific heat capacity of hydrogen is very high, at 14.32 according to the attached article. If my knowledge of thermal physics holds up, this means that it will take more energy to cool the fire sun than it will take to melt the ice one. This may be a win for the fire sun. Any further points?
I guess when you add varibles like spaces temperature you're right. Congrats m8 you win the open experiment side. Mean while, on the perfect scenario side where no outside forces affect either sun, as said before the heat radiaton of the hot sun would overpower the one of the cold one IF fusion is taking place to keep the sun at a constant temperature. But op was not specific in his question for some of the things I mentioned
Now, back to the real problem at hand.
One does not simply negative kelvin.
I suggest changing this thread into a common science misconceptions thread; Or should we start a new one?