I know you guys will argue over anything.
so /b/ who would win?
Das a lot of pigeons
Heck, that many pigeons would probably weigh as much as the earth. They would block the sun and oxygen or even destroy the entire earth just by their mass causing gravitation and pulling the earth apart.
An average pigeon is 38cm. So 1 octillion pigeons would cover 38,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 cm, or 380,000,000,000,000,000,000 km.
That's (roughly) 236,000,000,000,000,000,000 miles. That's enough birds to circle the earth 9,000,000,000,000,000 times.
1000 soldiers would drown.
That many pigeons would outweigh the entire solar system by about 20 orders of magnitude, so yes.
If you could somehow fit that many pigeons into the earth's atmosphere, it would form a black hole. In fact even if you could fit them into a radius of about 10^19 km (which is like 10 orders of magnitude largerer than the sun) you would have a black hole.
So basically, the entire planet as well as much of the solar system would be utterly destroyed. No-one would win because the pigeons and marines alike would not exist as anything more than plasma.
>Implying the only way to kill a pigeon is with a gun
>marines hideout for a month or more
>most pigeons starve
>set up food posts for pigeons
>poison their food
>poison their water
Just did some math, I checked and the earth weighs 5,974,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 kg.
A pigeon can weigh up to 4 kg according to wikipedia, so let's say a pigeon weighs 1 kg, that's 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 kg
That's much more than the earths mass so yeah they would basically rip the earth to shreds
>implying the marines would have enough bullets, stamina, or even lifespan to kill 1 OCTILLION pigeons
The entirety of all life on earth is a miniscule fraction of what the earth actually weighs, to the point that it doesn't matter whether or not you include it because you'd only be off by something like a few millionths of a percent.
An octillion pigeons is a lot of birds. In fact, there are so many that the gravitational pull of their combined mass would probably form their own miniature planet. So you're basically saying, 1000 US Marines vs a planet made of pigeons.
One octillion (long scale) pigeons is 1.000.000^8 pigeons. A pigeon is about the size of a bag of flour, so a pigeon weighs about a kilo (at the magnitudes we're calculating, this kind of inaccuracy doesn't really matter all that much.). An earth-sized sphere of 1 octillion pigeons would have 9,23*10^26 kg/m^3 pigeons.
Assuming the marines are on earth, they would be trapped in a flock of pigons 9 orders of magnitude denser than a neutron star, one of the densest objects we know of.
Safe to say, the marines are fucked. So are the pigeons. Probably earth as well.
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1 octillion = 10^48.
The average weight of a pigeon is 388g.
So one octillion of pigeon is close to 3,88 * 10^47 kg.
Considering the earth's mass is 6*10^25 kg, the total weight of pigeons is equal to more than 10^22 earths.
The pigeons would collapse into a supermassive black hole and nobody would win.
When you consider that the mass of a pigeon is 2.1kg. This miniature planet would weigh more than 300x the weight of earth.
Earth has a mass of about 10^24 kg and a biomass of about a trillion tonnes (560 excluding bacteria, and it's estimated that bacteria are at least as much) which is about 10^15 kg, which is 10^-7%. So it's not worth considering.
They turn into plasma (ionised gas), but there's so much of it that it condenses into a black hole which devours most of the solar system.
Anyone who's studied 11th grade physics can work it out.
>10,000 pidgeons dive bomb each marine, going for the eyes. The ratio of pigeons killed to eyes gouged is 500:1
>Double that number to be generous, this leaves you with all 1000 marines disabled with only 2 million pigeon casualties. Which is certainly generous considering how much ammo and reloading killing 2 million would require
>all 1000 marines are blind with 9,999,999,999,999,999,999,997,999,999 pigeons remaining alive
>its now only a matter of time
Octillion = 10^27, not 1000000^8 (10^48). You're off by 21 orders of magnitude.
That being said...
A pigeon has a mass of about a kilogram. An octillion pigeons would have about 170 times the mass of Earth, or about half the mass of Jupiter. A ball of pigeons with that mass would have a much smaller radius than Jupiter, so the surface gravity would be much higher. The Marines would probably be crushed by their own weight.
If you could fit that many pigeons into a sphere the same radius as the earth, it would collapse into a black hole. Check it out: http://www.1728.org/gravity.htm
The Schwarzschild radius (the radius at which a given mass would collapse into a black hole) of 1 octillion pigeons is larger than the radius of the sun. For comparison, the Schwarzschild radius of the Sun is like 30 km.
Did some maths OP
8.5lb per 6 months per bird
.00019675925 pounds of poop per minute x 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 birds
= 1.967 x 10^23 pounds of shit a minute
=3.27 x10^21 pounds a second
=163966000000000000 TONS OF SHIT A SECOND
That many pigeons have never exited in the history of earth. If they were all in one place the rampant disease caused by the rotting corpses and pigeon shit and dust from their feathers and dried shit would eventually kill the marines. If the pigeons were all attacking, the marines would be fucking having far, far too little ammo to kill the pigeons, even with nukes.
Huh, never seen that before. Consider my answer an analysis of the short-scale answer, then. It's the more conservative one, giving the Marines the better chance, but the wingrats still win by a long shot.
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>kneejerk reaction to something that hits a little too close to home
>gets pointed out
>pretend not to know what is going on
No logic here, just typical evasive faggotry. Let me guess, you ran out and got tats and face piercings as soon as you saw someone with them who you considered "cool"? Yeah you're a fucking faggot attention whore. Enjoy your logic.
>38cm average pigeon
Nigger are you aware how retardedly big that is?
Considering that's the AVERAGE one, there'd be even bigger ones. You're out of your fucking peanutsized mind, you fucking faggot.
I ain't never seen 3ft pigeons, where the fuck do you live?
>one octillion is 1.0 x 10^36
>average pigeon has mass of 300 grams
>one octillion pigeons have mass of 3.0 x 10^35 kilograms
>mass of th earth is 5.98 x 10^24 kilograms
>mfw 1000 marines would be crushed to death by 1 octillion pigeons
Pic related. Just substitute pigeons for hawks.
Im fairly certain they would literally cover every inch of the planet, at least several thousand feet into the air if not exponentially more than that. There would be 0 room for anything else so there would immediately be billions upon billions of deaths
And over here we have an underaged fucking retard
Assume each pigeon has a length of 11 inches converting one octillion times 11 into feet and then dividing by miles proves that these pigeons would block out the sun and all life would be destroyed
>It has been scientifically proven that pigeons will ignite at this mass, even in the vacuum of space.
>The friction between the birds will heating the outer layers of the pigeon-planet to around 5505000 °C.
>The core of the pigeon-planet is considered to extend from the center to about 20–25% of the planetary radius.
>It has a density of up to 150000 g/cm
>Tempratures of close to 15.699.726000,8°C
>The pigeon planet now burns at the force of a thousand suns.
>Earth and the solar system evaporates.
>And the 1000 marines along with it.
>Are the US Marines from America ?
>US Marines from America
"Greentext is a method used when anon wants to quote another anon to draw attention to a few words."
He wasn't repeating his question, dipshit, he was quoting him to show how stupid the question was.
Always thought the were French because they never win a war.
>I was only pretending to be retarded
>US = United States
>Any 2 or more places that call themselves states, has a military force named the Marines could potentially be called US Marines.
HOLY FUCKING SHIT NO WAY ANON
YOU'VE OPENED MY EYES
the pidgeons. why
the total mass of all pidgeons is about 10^47 kg while the earth has a mass of 5.97219 * 10^1024 kg
so the massive gravitation of the great ball of pidgons would tear the earth apart and kill the marines
then the massie ball of pidgeons would collapse and create pressures and heat so high that they would create a star that is way way bigger than the sun
I don't think you grasp how many pigeon's an octillion is. The average pigeon weighs about 11 oz. 11 * 1000000000000000000000000000 = 1.1*10^27 oz, or 3.11*10^25 kg for all you non dumb Americans out there. That is more mass than the mass of the earth which clocks in at 5.97*10^24 kg. In other words, the marines would be crushed by all the weight of the pigeons.
OH GOD PIGEONS
divide by 1000 marines
an m16 firing full auto's most generous rounds per minute is 950
minutes in a year: 525949
1000 marines, with botomless magazines gunning into a cloud of pigeons full auto with guns that never overheat and where every bullet hits it's mark will take more than
TWO HUNDRED BILLION YEARS
>Planet made of pigeons
>Marines are fighting on a planet that's spewing up boiling blood volcanos from the core temperature
>Meat and beaks everywhere
>Sound of millions of pigeons burning to death
>Insane heat from the sun and planet combined with massive winds and freezing cold during night
Everyone would die.
The mass of 1 octillion pigeons would cause a gravitational field sufficient to form a black hole, which would kill both the pigeons and the marines through spaghettification.
1 octillion pigeons is a lot. If we assume each pigeon weighs 300g their mass would be roughly 50 times that of the earth itself. If distributed evenly over the planet, the earth's radius would expand 6 fold. Needless to say, the pigeons would crush the earth's biosphere instantly, regardless of how they acted.
>being this retarded
i bet you think clouds are weightless, when in fact a hurricane weight about 108 Billion pounds.
More like /b/ has absolutely nothing to do at all and will just jabber about bullshit and fake threads. This place is worse than reddit. Period. It's a shell of what it was, if even that anymore.
A pigeon does not weigh a whole kilogram. A pigeon weighs, like, a third of a kilogram. An octillion pigeons would only weigh 56 times the mass of the earth. If the marines killed a million pigeons per second, it would only take them 32 trillion years to kill every last pigeon.
(I say "only", because there's another thread that's pitting 1000 marines against a googol ants.)
the pidgeons, they would shit everything, drowning the short marines, and leaving the others sick after contaminating the food. The marines wouldn't stand a fucking chance since in one day it would be all shited to hell.
This a 200g pigeon, 1 octillion pigeons is actually 33 times the mass of the earth. This many pigeons would have gravity of their own, with the most inner pigeons being instantly squashed by their gravitational force.
Need more info, OP, how are the pigeons distributed? is this a flat hypothetical plane where they could roam around, or are they smoothly distributed around a spherical planet such as earth?
Also, is synchronized defecation a possible weapon they could use? Or pigeon kamikaze rain (the pigeons, aware of their situation would decide to sacrifice some of their kind in a rain of pigeons.
Other point: how are the marines equipped?
With 1 octillion pigeons, I assume they have 1 octillion shells at their disposal as well
>An octillion pigeons would only weigh 56 times the mass of the earth.
That's just to illustrate that they're powerless to stop the swarm from doing whatever the hell it feels like.
All the pidgeons need to do is land in the general area and the marines drown in pidgeon corpses.
literally drown, the weight of the bodies on top of each other turns the bodies into paste & even if they hide in tunnels the blood floods the tunnels.
Are you retarded or just dumb?
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How would the pigeons get there?. If we assume it is possible to accelerate the pigeons towards the sun so they escape earth gravity, then the pigeons would just be a beef rogue planet going towards the sun. It would be so massive that is would have its own gravity, so it would compress and probably impact on the surface, causing some damage.
BUt I like yet a better possibility, of space pigeons. Space pigeons don'tg need oxigen, are capable accelerating all the way to interstellar travel speeds. These pigeons would then accelerate into near light speed, organize into a massive blade like object and slice the sun in half.
Pic related, what our sun would look like
>An average pigeon is 38cm
>A pigeon can weigh up to 4 kg
>A pigeon is about the size of a bag of flour, so a pigeon weighs about a kilo
>The average weight of a pigeon is 388g
>A pigeon has a mass of about a kilogram.
>Do you think 1 pigeon weights more than a metric tonne?
>The pigeon in the OP is the exact same pigeon. I even used the more conservative size.
>average pigeon has mass of 300 grams
>Average pigeon weight, approximately 1kg
>each pigeon has a length of 11 inches
>The average pigeon weighs about 11 oz
>each pigeon weighs 300g
>A pigeon weighs, like, a third of a kilogram
>This a 200g pigeon
I fucking hate pigeons
1kg is a good estimate to a pigeon. I suppose there are kinds, but I was wrong.
then im not eating chink bait ever again