Historical Thread? Any stories from the older generation you may have heard about?
My grandfather was in Korea and he often tells me a story about him and his buddies. They were on a hill and they got a message that a fuck ton of Koreans were coming in from a river. After a while they spot them and from the top of the hill they see about 300+ Koreans coming in.
My grandfather and his buddies, he thinks it was maybe 10 of them, start picking them off. A couple of minutes later all the Koreans were dead and the river was chocked with blood.
He later found out that most of them were boys, some just 14. the oldest maybe 18.
He always cries when he talks about it.
It's pretty horrifying, but intensely interesting.
My great grandfather had his eye pulled out during the first world war, and my grandfather whom died about 6 years ago looked after a boy about 19 during the second world war, and they still sent birthday cards and letters to each other every year.
My great grandfather was a mercenary and survived several wars around the world.
He died when back in base, when he was drunk and fell off a wall.
Didn't find out about this until earlier this year.
>looked after a boy
we all know what that really means...
My grandfather's brother got shot in the head by a soviet sniper less than 5 minutes before the truce came into effect
>300 combatants is absolutely nothing
>yes, all die walking in a river, which slows down mobility
>koreans were poorly equipped and they were boys, who were scared shitless
>with the accuracy and speed of a lee enfield it was an easy task.
So go suck a shit, you fucking neckbeard.
that was intense story
will dump few pics, info in filenames
Your picture is from December 7th 1941. A soldier looking at a body of a Japanese pilot
my great grandfather was part of the 80th inf division, Pattons 3rd army, i still have a map he recieved after VE-day where he penciled in dates a few dates and a red unmarked bridge across the rhine, if anyones interested ill post close ups of the dates
Watching this as we speak:
>BBC's World at War- The Final Solution
Solid 2 part film explaining how Nazis build up to concentration camps.
I had no idea they planned to ship 8mln Jews to Madagascar before war broke out. Nazis even considered compensating France for taking over it's useless colony.
really? Thank for info, I will fix it
well, they delivered
bitches love carts
After a quick round at the translator, so it seems.
I need to pick up that book and read it.
you should, it's great book!
It's mass of corium called Elephant's foot - concrete and parts of Chernobyl's reactor fused into a magma like substance that melted it's way into the plant's basement. It's extremely radioactive and if you wanted to see it first hand like man in the picture you would pay with your life. You would probably be able to walk out of the room but at that point your DNA and bone marrow would be FUCKED beyond point of repair - a dead man walking.
They should swap the british present day speech with american present day speech, considering all I ever heard from american soldiers is how shitty their guns are and how much they wanted ours.
interesting. I once saw picture of somebody who was kinda fucked like that. He was lying on bed in hospital and his flesh was falling apart, but unfortunately, I don't have it here
A newspaper clipping from grandpa's war collection.
Heard many people say that. Time to pay a visit to the local library tomorrow.
I don't read books a lot, but I really loved this one. And it's not even long!
Really? That's just great. I've been putting it off just because I didn't feel like taking a 800page brick under my nose.
As we got into war literature, got any other books you guys wanna recommend?
fuck, forgot pic
Context? What am I looking at here?
Also, my pic. World's first photo, taken by Joseph Nicéphore Niépce in 1826. The camera had to sit open for several hours to take this picture, showing the courtyard and outhouses from the upper floor window of the house.
Unbroken sounds interesting, adding to the books-to-get list.
>Genre: Dark Comedy
I am getting this too.
This begs the question: 'Would you want to survive a scalping?'
Try "The Road Back", it's from the same guy like Western front. It's after war when soldiers are trying to live normal lifes, but they mostly can't
PTSD related stuff eh?
Could be interesting. If it's got a touch of realism to it (read: true stories), definitely picking it up.
So many books to read, so little time!
I've got a bunch of WW1 pics if you want
when I was younger I was a great fan of Arnold Zweig. He produced a whole cycle on ww1 called the great war of the white man. its included several novels with recurring characters depicting different aspects of the war: the battle at somme, battle at verdun, one novel is about an unjust trial of a soldier on the eastern front. this is really good world literature ande definitely to recommend...
of course, don't worry about touch of realism, writer himself was in war!
yeah and if I remember correctly, they hadn't made another one. Kinda weird when you play with some guys one day and next day you're supposed to kill them. At least it shows that normal people don't want any war
Ok here we go niggers it is glorious Axis story time
>Grandpa was an og pimp nigger in ww2 and was forced to become a german soldier
>Being the baller he was he clearly gave no fucks and trolled the living shit out of the russians
>Ran around throwing molotovs and grenades into the peepholes of tanks
>later regrets throwing good drink
>One day grandmaster trole decides to rek the fuck out of these russian nooblords
>Sees convoy of 2 tanks and a truck full of at least 12 fatties
>runs out alone from cover anti-tank rifle in one hand and stg in the other
>420 quickscopes the two dweebenheimers in the first tank
>blazes up a molotov and throws it onto the truck effectively getting a mad 14 killstreak
>retarded tankm8s in the last tank open the top of tank cause they cant see shit
>grandpa gives no fucks gets sick mustard gas grenade
>beats the guy with his head out back into tankeroo with riflebutt
>throws that dank gas into hole
>closes lid and holds
>mfw he took a sick picture of him posing on tank afterwards
i bet yall grandpas didnt even trickshot
yeah, it's practically the sequel
I was listening to public radio on the weekend before the anniversary, and only 8 out of the 100+ Chinese they polled could correctly identify the picture. They thought it was a photoshop.
gulf war, know a lot of stories about iraqi wars.
also some stories about the british colony in iraq
> Stories from older generation
My dad tells me that back in his dad's time that alcohol was seen as something healthy. And during the invasion of Normandy he entertained the officers because he was a musician so that he wouldn't have to fight, or maybe he did fight but not that much.
And my mom's Norwegian grandmother told her that everyone disliked the Jews and saw them as a menace that destroys societies.
That is all I got. Oh yea in the northern cities there was an extreme amount of anti white racism that made life a bitch for white people and my dad's mom was a Norwegian immigrant so you can only imagine the culture shock.
Oh absolutely, it's the book that interests me the most too. I'll be going through these books in the order you guys recommended them unless there are obvious "sequels"
another one similiar to Arnold Zweig The Great War of the White Men or All Quiet on the Western Front is Ernst Jünger: Storm of Steel. But be careful with that book. It can be used and indeed was used to justify nazi propaganda, because in contrary to all the afore mentioned ones it does not have a clear anti-war or pro-humanity message. so the whole moral message of that book is quite complicated to say the least
nigga its legit, i just made it a little bit more fun to read
fun fact he shot himself after his wife died and he knew my mom got married. He wrote it was because he wanted for me to know him as the man he was before the war, not the husk he was after. you fucking faggot fight me my grandpa was a the biggest dick og
I've got a decent sized folder of this stuff, got any requests?
Little story about difference from my grandma who lives through WWII in Poland.
Apparently many local people were more afraid of Soviets than German soldiers going through an area. She told me that many Russians were disorganized, with poor food rations, quite often uncivilized savages drafted from depths of steppe/Siberia. They would notoriously steal, rape and pillage while Germans had horrific ideology and orders to carry out but you could at least anticipate their actions.
>already got the hill sighted in and range cards made
>intel regarding when the initial assault is coming
300 is not a problem, they are rice niggers after all. Not that smart, and probably wearing tires for shoes.
Your grandfather would be ashamed of you.
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Don’t be a stranger. Just hit me with your best shot. I’m pretty much perfect. I was captain of the football team, and starter on my basketball team. What sports do you play, other than “jack off to naked drawn Japanese people”? I also get straight A’s, and have a banging hot girlfriend (She just blew me; Shit was SO cash). You are all faggots who should just kill yourselves. Thanks for listening.
Pic Related: It’s me and my bitch
Wouldn't be surprised.
Most, if not all footage of wars serve a purpose, and that is propaganda.
My great grand father worked for the KGB, specifically he was- well nowadays you'd call it the anti-espionage department I guess? He made sure noone listened into the phone calls of very high officials, including Stalin. Sadly, my mother said he never really talked about his job, but she does recall him having really cool shit, like they lived in this huge appartment complex along with other "important" people, and every week or two he'd scan everything for wiretaps and shit that basically wasn't supposed to be there. She said there was someone constantly slicing the phone wire, and he had to fix it each time until one day he had enough and brought home this "white powder" which looked exactly like dust, it had no smell or anything but when it came in contact with human skin, it would leave a bright orange stain that wouldn't be washed off within a month of heaving trying and it was the last time they cut the wire. I can talk about more stuff if anyone's interested
absolutely! Most of the people are good, only politicians and (most of the) people like them are assholes
glasses are kill
well, it was nice thread, but I have to go now. Thank you, guys!
Assuming your story has a true base, and he shot himself after telling you all these events, degrading his memory with "lolxDDD noscopezz" is pretty awful.
I never met him. He wrote all of his shit down in a book for his grand children. Thats all ive read. I joke about it because i joke about stuff i find too serious to bring up otherwise.
My grandpa is probably the only person in the world who i actually would want to meet, and i will never be able too. I dont know how you deal with grief but this is how i do it. If oyu want to hear sadder shit he wrote i can do that too
Eh, my interest is in sleeping now, but for future reference, (from my historical thread experience) people prefer the unhumoured stories.
Stay cool /b/ro
So my great grand father was madly in love with his wife, and they loved picnicking any time they could, and they'd use this shitty motorcycle that was notorious for breaking down and being unreliable, so one of the times it broke down they were miles away from the closest city, but only a few kilometers away from a train station. They headed there through the fields, got there and it turned out all the train tickets were sold out for the closest train. He was wearing his standard military clothing and had his identification. He took his wifes hands behind her back, and told one of the conductors she's a traitor or something and he has her arrested, and needs to board this train. The conductor coop'd and led them to the first class area of the train and they returned home.
I don't have many badass stories or anything sadly besides this last one that comes to mind (next post)
Well, that's one way to bum a ride
Interesting. I just read 'An American in The Gulag" About Alexander Dolgun's experience in the late 1940s to 1950s in various Soviet era institutions. Much easier to read and less preachy than Solzhinitsyn
Bosses boss was in WW2. Dude told us that the germans were shelling a road in a pattern and that his C's made people go through it vs going around. Guess stupidity is universal. He was a medic so he didn't shoot people, but he would get "under cover: when planes came over real close. War and putting guts back into people on a regular basis for years made him a bit fucked up.
Told us about about needing to hold some town from a german attack and that the germans just ran into machinegun fire and all died. He was not allowed to treat their wounds.
He didn't tolerate any bullshit, like ever. Guy was an asshole, but fascinating.
2nd story - my great uncle was on omaha beach and was the last man in his platoon (only survivor) and made it into germany. Aparently, dead itallians swell up and boat and turn yellow, while dead germans bloat and turn grey. Apparently he was reassigned to the group that Patton rescued (the surrounded general that said "nuts") as he reported being surrounded, having no provisions and trying to drink his own piss with some lemon extract in it. He then stated that people were waiting for morning and placing their hands on moss to get some moisture to drip into their mouths. Oddly, he never mentioned ammo. Read his war journal. Guy got back after the whole fucking thing (all 4+ years) and died from something stupid like a virus shortly after. Life's bullshit...
One of my other great grand fathers was arrested for treason, he served in the military for 10-15 years, lost his leg and iirc his right hand, not his entire arm, just the hand (wrist bit down) Anyway he was being interrogated and they were pretty much forcing him to sign his own admitting of treason, but after a few hours he stood up and slammed his stump on the table and yelled "I won't". They literally let him go shortly afterwards. Him and the other great grandfather I talked of both said the similar shit which kind of sent shivers down my spine when my mum told me, which was you could hear the screams and gun shots as you walked through the building. My great grand father literally heard that shit few times everyday as he worked. Oh and I forgot to add, he studied something related radio encryption decoding or something back in uni before he went to war, and I'm proud to say he was on the front lines of moscow when they germans were attacking. He rose through his ranks until- I don't recall correctly - either decided to leave the military, and then had an offer to work for one of the departments >>551759915
listed, or he just kept rising and got that offer eventually.
I'll give it a read
Oh one more post about his "retirement" and death
Grandpa was in the troops designated for suicide in the already falling budapest. He was there when the germans blew the bridges, and he beat the shit out of one too.
Problem was that he was stuck in the catacombs of buda with the for months. These catacombs also served as an underground medical facility. Unfortunately they were way too many and he wrote that a lot of the patients just died because their wounds rotted so bad they died from the infections or some shit. Worst part of it was that he slept in the same room as a little kid and his mom, and the kid was always asking the soldiers about his dad. Kid had a name too and Grandpa knew he was dead since his found jacket had that name on it. He was also one of the men volunteering for pulling the trigger on those patients who clearly would not survive and asked for a quick death. He said they were always thankfull and if there was any time he didnt regret pulling a trigger it was then.
Once he retired, he was very paranoid. When communism was tearing apart, it was known that people who might've known things were being quickly and silently mopped up. Many of his friends just disappeared and noone in the family believed him, until one day he was supposed to meet with a family member. He left his house, and noticed 2 dudes dressed in really dark cloting following him every where he went in a 15-20m distance. He headed to a underground passing which was one of the only ways to go from the position he found himself in, he saw they were still following him with a increased pace but now another guy in similar clothing was going towards him from the other end. Once both sides were about 10m away from him, he heard his name being called from the entrance of the tunnel; it was the guy he was supposed to meet with. He was so focused on what was probably about to happen he completely missed the meeting location with him, and guy followed him into the tunnel along with the other dudes. All the three men slowed the fuck down and passed him. After that, noone ever saw him leave his house ever again. Sadly he died of a heart attack in the end.
I can talk about some of the propaganda and what my mum interpreted it as when she was in school - and how my great grand father had an interesting way of protecting her from the truth
Corrected that in a later post. FYI. Guessing it still sucked major ass. The diary was rather detailed, but not kept long. Since it came back I assume he came back too. I read it at age 9 and decided to join the military, but was kept out due to asthma. Was always the most lucky person I know, probably would have been a decent soldier.
Had another great uncle that served in the pacific. Didn't survive long and and have no readings from him, he apparently did not send a log back, or just died fast. anyway, my family has been defending the US since the revolution and continues to do so until me.
Thomas Edison performing and filming the electrocution of an elephant.
Storm of steel, memoirs of an infantry officer, August 1914
Occupation of Czechoslovakia by "friendly"soviet forces August 1968... 108 citizens killed