>Atheism for men is like feminism for women Discuss.

Not much to discuss here.

>>550573484
Nothing to discuss, you hit it on the nail

Feminist have hijacked atheism with Atheism+

all i can say is you are right

>>550573730
I'm afraid to ask. What's Atheism+?

>>550573484
What do you mean 'Atheism for men is like feminism for women'?

>>550573730
Well atheism save, and counters, rolls a natural twenty, and does critical damage to feminism

>>550573484

With /r/atheism existing I cannot argue against that.

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>>550573484
I find this arousing.

>>550573730
*Tried to.
Also I wouldn't really call it Atheism at that point, I'd just call it being a cunt.

>>550573484
You're a troll or an absolute nutter.

nah.
I'm atheist because I don't give a shit how we got here. what the fuck is the point of even trying to understand something we will never know?

Whereas femminism is trying to understand the obvious and obsessing over it needlessly.
Or was that religion? I get 'em mixed up sometimes.

>>550573484
The whole atheist movement is a joke just as feminism is. Neither parties are being oppressed or do anything constructive. I was an atheist when you generally didn't just throw it around because people judged you. Now all these fedora wearing faggots wear it like its a badge of honor and somehow makes them better.

Just another simple minded cause for simple minded people.

>>550574139
Atheists are religious, so are feminists

>>550573484
Yeah, not much to discuss. Pretty straight forward.

>le pretending to be religious meme

>>550574139
I don't mean atheism as in atheism/deism. I mean atheism as in fedora tipping euphoric atheism

>>550573910
Something that everyone who understands the term atheism hates.

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>>550574316
>Atheists are religious, so are feminists
A lack of a belief is not a religion you fucktard

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>>550574372
You mean, When our fedoras unite, we become captain neckbeard!
Pic Related, neckbeards and feminist get along

>>550574141
I agree with everything you say but...
> I was an atheist when you generally didn't just throw it around because people judged you.
>I was an atheist when
>was
>when
Are you seriously fucking implying that you changed your religious beliefs because of a community problem?

bananas and maple syrup

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>>550573484
>atheism
there is no god
>feminism
we must fight the patriarchy!
>christianity
we must fight satan!

you were saying

>>550574525
actaully , religion is any shared belief

>>550574372
then you're right
otherwise, no

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>>550574623
You can't have a lack in belief, because you believe in nothing, that's in itself is belief, and you share it...religion

>>550574762
Actually, you are fucking retarded giving a broad definition like that. Everything is religion according to you.

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>>550573484
Why do the fedora-wearing masses think that atheism (and feminism for that matter) is just some fad that's come on lately?
Is The Footnote Generation REALLY this stupid?

>>550574372
I want to tip cows, ever been cow tipping?

>>550573484
>2014
>believe in god
'murica

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>>550574623
The only potential Feminist in that picture is the fat guy. The woman is too hot!

>>550574956
It's not a belief in 'Nothing', it is a non-belief in a god, or any deities. You don't even understand these basic definitions and concepts

>>550574525
suck my cock buddy...

Religion:
A religion is an organized collection of beliefs, cultural systems, and world views that relate humanity to an order of existence.

>>550574762
And once again, for the slow kids in the back...

atheists simply do not believe in theistic doctrine - if anything, it's shared incredulity

>diggy status: extremely shiggy

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>>550574762
>>550574956
>religion is any shared belief
>believing that english is spoken in america is a religion
>believing that humans exist on earth is a religion
>believing that christianity is a religion, is a religion
christians, everyone.

>>550575228
please give me your tears, atheist man children. I require nourishment!

>>550575228
KEK
>A religion is an organized collection of beliefs
>Atheism is a lack of belief
Thank you for proving me right

>>550574525
>I lack the belief that there is no God
>I lack the belief that man in his limited intellect is the measure of all things
>I lack the belief that despite it being a statistical impossibility, the universe, and all life in it came into being without an initial cause despite the fact that nothing has ever been observed to happen without cause.

>not religious

>>550574654
I still don't believe nor do I tell anyone they are wrong because their beliefs have nothing to do with me and don't fucking matter. The irony is people like Dawkins annoy the fuck out of me because he is being just as dogmatic as religion is. Attacking someones views with neither party can prove or disprove their point is fucking moronic.

>>550575091
Britfag here. We don't believe in tipping cows, unless they provide exceptional service.

>>550575023
A critique of Geertz's model by Talal Asad categorized religion as "an anthropological category."[1] Many religions have narratives, symbols, and sacred histories that are intended to explain the meaning of life and/or to explain the origin of life or the Universe. From their beliefs about the cosmos and human nature, people derive morality, ethics, religious laws or a preferred lifestyle. According to some estimates, there are roughly 4,200 religions in the world
Atheism is an augment for spirituality, makes it a religion, unfortunately, you are so stupid, I have to type in a sixth grade reading level, so you can understand

>>550575182
Ha no shit.
I have yet to see a attractive femnazi.
Feminist are mostly ok , but "some" american feminist are just ugly cunts that are mad at the world because nobody wants them.
>Its everyone else his fault that i will die alone , not my own.

>>550575227
that in turn is a spiritual belief, and preference, you fucking moron.

Calculus for Puerto Ricans is like water skiing for horses.

>>550575527
When you don't even understand the definitions and concepts, you can't form a structured logical argument. I didn't expect much else from you.

What you are saying is equivalent to saying 'clean-shaven' is a type of mustache.
Do you see how that doesn't make sense?
Of course you don't for you still persist in your delusions.

>>550573910
Atheism+ is Atheism + Social justice
So pretty much the usual tumblr crybabies but with a different name.

>>550574762
>>550575228
>>550574956
>being atheist does not equal it being a religion.
I'd recommend you stop being retards, but that's impossible.

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>>550575327
/b/ home of the edgy 13 yo virgins it's not my fault you are too stupid to figure shit out on your own, I didn't know I would have to write a bible for you want to be atheist, for you to begin to understand what a religion is.

>>550573675
>>550573636
alrighty!

/thread

>>550575327
And there we have it. You have successfully shut down his argument.

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>>550575875
I just asked google what religion was. Don't blame me. You mad cuz you're retarded.

>>550574025
>/r/atheism
In my head that sounds like 'racism' with a lisp.

Serious question: If Adam and Eve were the first people on earth, where did the second people come from? Can we have a wincest thread now?

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>>550575875
Yes is does, actually Canada, the US, Europe,Mexico, fuck pretty much any UN country defines Atheism as a religion. You fucking retarded mother fuckers. Sorry, the state says it's a religion, it's a fucking religion.

>>550575910
>wahh ur edgy
christians getting BTFO

>>550573910
Atheism + social justice warriors. It's damn hilarious, it really is. A more pathetic bunch of folk under one hashtag hasn't been seen in a very long time.

meh not really

both can be annoying if over zealous, but athiest are generally smart and use reason, feminists are dumb

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MFW everyone is technically agnostic...

>>550573484

I got nothing. Good job OP.

>>550576162
please see>>550575327

>also you fags need to stop googling and using the wiki
>dur hur I googled
>dur hur Found wiki!
>A religion is an organized collection of beliefs, cultural systems, and world views that relate humanity to an order of existence.>

Again see
>>550575327

>>550576206
>>550575840
Lack of belief is not belief, therefore not religion.

>>550576116
Lost it at Huge-Manatee

>>550575391
>A religion is an organized collection of beliefs
>Atheism is a lack of belief
>You believe there is no God
>What you described was nihilism.
>You're a mentally retarded 5 year old.

>>550573484
Feminists should hate the bible and the sand nigger book because it tells men to put women in their place.
They kind of go hand in hand.

But fuck feminists

>>550573484
Religion for men is like Down syndrome for Children

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>>550576068
Nope, I was using bb's I took out the fucking nukes,State defines atheism as religion, end of story, it's a religion. I win, you go back to being fat loser virgins from hell, don't sit on your fedora

>>550574623
>his cock his probaley huge

she would be dissapointed

>>550575427

>This

Seriously, how is everyone else so retarded to get butthurt by other people's beliefs that have absolutely no impact on them?

>>550576163
Lillith came before Eve. A good half of us must be demon spawn. Wincest or demon girls would be nice though.

>>550576421
speaking english isn't a shared belief. This argument is so retarded it gave me cancer. Jesus christ, dude you are fucking stupid hahaaa

>>550576329
>agnostic
fuck off back to tumblr with your technobabble, faggot. we use real words here.

>>550573992
This is the exact reason no one outside of your little group likes you

>>550574316
If atheism can be considered a religion and its adherents "religious," then "off" is a T.V. channel.

TL;DR, you're an asshat.

>>550576506
WRONG. I don't believe there is no god.There could be a god, I just don't actively worship one. That is not what atheism is. Nice fucking strawman

>>550573910
Its the worst qualities of Atheism and Feminism gathered into one shitty love child. Where logical arguments meet emotional pandering. Its a disaster.

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>>550576506
The irony in that last line is ridiculous.

>>550576736
OFF is a TV channel.
http://canaloff.globo.com/

>>550573484
Both are fucking stupid

>>550575327
And i am a salat murderer, cause i eat salat. Use your words properly.

You would have to call entire theism a religion, if you are calling atheism so.

Probably atheism will bread somthing you could call religions in the future. Some philosophical movements with their own traditions and twists.

Assholes have ruined atheism. Now atheism is some autistic movement of bitching constantly about shit that they actually seek out rather than are oppressed by. This is no different than pro life conservative Christians, its all become horse shit and driven the good people out of that identity making atheism a shamed shithole non believers get lumped into.

Fuck you angry atheists, I hate you every bit as much as christian activists.

>>550576943
>Atheism
>Stupid

oh ok

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>>550576329
>mfw you're autistic

>>550576258
Well, in all honesty, Spider-Man DOES exist for the very reasons you mentioned. That doesn't mean he's REAL as in a man-spider. Jesus and God are the same to me. Should be obvious to everyone else too, but it isn't...

>>550574525
>Fedora atheism
>Atheism +
You even have denominations you stupid bastards
For people who don't like religion you mirror it beautifully, just look at he professional atheist 'preachers'

>>550576736
>>550576926

Christians: 1
Athist: 0

>>550576442
Please be sure to keep this in mind:

Lack of believe =/= Disbelief

Lack of belief is when you hold no opinion. Disbelief is when you hold the opinion something is not true.

Disbelief can be structured into an ideology, whereas lack of belief cannot. For instance, Christians have a lack of belief in space aliens because their bible doesn't have anything to say about it. However, devout Muslims will tell you that there is no such thing as aliens -- the reason is that there is no mention of them in the Koran, and the Koran contains all possible knowledge. Christians lack belief, Muslims have disbelief.

Atheism can turn from lack of belief to flat-out disbelief. It is arrogant and stupid to say that all atheists "lack belief", because some are rather convinced that a god of any kind is impossible, which turns it into a form of ideology, containing belief sets.

>>550576258

weird... when i click the like button on your post nothing happens.

anyone else having the same problem?

ahaha this is like /x/ level creepy ;_;

>>550576329
an agnostic is an intellectual coward. just be done with it and say "I'm not religious at all" like normal people instead of arguing about which word to use

>>550576685
How stupid are you?
If any country speaks a certain language, that country has a shared belief that it's country speaks that language.

By the same definition of defining what is a religion.
If people have a shared belief in Batman, Batman is now a fucking religion

so the premise of "shared belief equals religion" is false

It is not that hard to grasp unless you're literally retarded.

One is an ugly bitch telling women they don't have to be hot to date 10/10 guys
The other is an ugly faggot trying to tell men not to let women control you and preach atheism

>>550576630
Thanx for the info. Religion is so confusing. It's like a story being told for generations and each generation adds their little bit of bullshit to the story and after thousands of years the story has evolved into something that has become pure fiction.

>>550577102
>jesus and god are the same as spiderman
Yes, they're characters in a story book. Spiderman is a super hero, and god blows up cities and drowns the planet when he gets upset. But neither of them exist. Calling them real is like calling Santa Claus real. They're fictional.

>>550576737
Actually that is what atheism is. Your describing anti-theism. Welcome to the atheist club.

>>550576926
Wow you thoroughly proved me wrong with that source. Good on ya m8.

>>550577112
Atheism+ is atheism and feminism in one, not plain old atheism.
Fedora atheism is generally gnostic, militant atheists.
Atheism itself is not an assertion that there is no god, nor is there any philosophy or beliefs that go along with it. Atheism is simply the lack of belief in a god.

>>550573484
+1 internets for accuracy.

>>550573484
No. Feminism today is a forum for women to externalize each and every problem they have and blame it on men. This has real effects on human interactions and even on politics, institutions, workplacves etc.
(A)theism is pointless.

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>>550576506
>belief in a god is the same thing as not believing in a god
>>550576685
>people don't believe almost universally that Americans speak english

see >>550576240

>>550577223
Just being done with it" and calling it not religious...doesn't that make YOU the coward?

>>550577523
You think you're fucking funny, you perplexed shit stain? I know what you are, you dumb faget. A big, fat, hot pocket eating neckbeard. You’re probably masturbating into your fedora right now, you fucking bitch. You think I’m a newfag? Please, I was here when Shrek happened. What about you, you fat dildo? No, I didn’t think so. You’re what? 11 years old? Fucking faget, go back to Neopets, or even better, your mother’s womb, that is if you had a mother, you dick biscuit. You think you can go around, acting like you own the motherfucking internet, you dumb ass rash? Newsflash: You can’t! I’m honestly flabbergasted right now, you sick little boat masturbator. I can tell you were fucked in the ass as a child, you shitty weeaboo shit egg. Don’t bother replying, I’ve already taken your IP address and forwarded it to the authorities. And that’s only a scare, you fucking creep. I know they won’t arrest you. I’m gonna get you myself. In the middle of the night when you think you’re alone, I’m gonna crash through your window and kick your ugly ass. I’m trained in French kickboxing, Muay Lao boxing and kendo, so don’t bother fighting back, you major noodle fucker. I’m gonna stir fry your eyeballs while fucking your faget ass. I will cut off your eyebrows and glue them to your ballsack. I will cut out your kneecaps and use them as elbow protectors when I’m roller-skating. You will beg for mercy like the little soap cunt you are, but I will just laugh at your dumbass stupidity. I will take your pets with me, but burn down the rest of your house. You will die like the flaming faget you are (literally). You should have just stuck to lurking, you bitchass autistic furry fucking newfag. Now get out of my fucking sight, kiddo.

that is a fucking retarded comparison OP.
first off, atheism is something that benefits both men and women, as opposed to feminism.

secondly, more importantly, the active side of atheism is concerned with giving people more rights. we're talking things like unrestricted science education, more abortion rights, more stem cell research, being able to buy booze sunday mornings. all these things that are restricted on a purely religious basis.
feminism, as it is practiced today, is about restricting rights for males. its not about giving women rights- women already have all the rights men do. pay gap? glass ceiling? all that...doesnt exist anymore. second wave feminism solved those issues, and with that the need for feminism ended.
meanwhile the need for atheism still exists

>>550575070
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=the+footnote+generation

fancy explaining that one pal?

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>>550573484
"atheism", as in there is anything else that is not retarded.

"a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects" Mirriam Webster"
- Dictionary Dot Com

"a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith"
-Mirriam Webster

"A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion."
-Dictionary dot com

"A pursuit or interest followed with great devotion"
-Oxford Dictionaries

"Getting Religion: to become religious, especially suddenly and in a way that you claim makes you a morally better person"
-macmillan dictionary
Kinda sounds like atheists I've known. "I want to save you from your ignorance"

I'm just posting what I've read. I guess I just have to take everyone's word for it, despite the fact that they could just be angry with being considered religious.

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>>550577102
>spider man exists
>spider man isn't real
>exists
>not real
>existing
>not being real
Fucking what?

>>550577369
So we're on the same page??

Spoilers alert.

There is no god.
Spiderman told me so.
Also, no one wins this argument no matter how much shit you monkeys throw at one another.

>>550576719
Really, I thought it was because I'm a backstabbing manipulative lying sack of shit, that fucks my friends wives, and jumps state to state, makes new friends and starts the process over. Pretty sure that's why only my little group of friends right now likes me, I moved far enough away, and don't have a real social networking account

>>550577632
Feminism strives for women to be up to par with men, not being over men. You are thinking of the belief of feminazi(sm) as it is perpetuated through the internet and through neckbeards like yourself.

>>550577197
I mean non belief.
Non belief=/=disbelief(i.e. Someone saying there certainly is no god)
Atheism has already been warped by the P.C. crowds and militant atheists, but not all atheists are like them

>>550577702
We might both agree that spooder man and jebus don't exist, but I fail to understand what the fuck you mean by they exist, but aren't real.

>>550577695
I suppose he's saying that spider man is conceptual but not material although its a bad way of saying it.

>>550574316
>>550574956

I hope you're not really that stupid.

>>550576329
Yes, but it's redundant to have to say you're an "agnostic atheist."

>>550573484
It is, in a sense. First, though, you have to separate feminism from the Tumblr SJW type that we love to hate. The atheism movement is similar to traditional feminism and civil rights movements.

Can we just promote skepticism and reject religion without being dicks to people who didn't do anything to us?

>>550577372
Ok can't resist this bait. Lacking a belief in something is not the same as asserting that something definitely doesn't exist. Anti theism is the general belief that theism is harmful. How do you faggots even use a computer? If you are older than 15 and still believe in god please kill yourself rather than further polluting the gene pool

No op you fucking dingus.

Fanatical and extremist anything are retarded.
>extremist feminists: feminazis
>extremist atheists: neckbeards
>extremist christians: west boro baptist church
>extremist muslims: terrorists


Any extremists are out to only hate on people who dont believe like they do.

There is no rational thought process for any of it no openmindedness its just all "YOU DONT THINK LIKE I DO YOU? YOURE DUMB BLAH BLAH BLAH" and either debates or shootouts

Every opinion belief or thought process is gouing to have hate mongers. But dont be that asshole that generalizes every one that way

>theres legit women who understand that men are the superior sex and want it to be equal without shitting on men

>thers legit atheists who dont automatically judge you for believing a religion (unless prejudged by said person then its freegame)

>theres legit christians who dont hate people/judge people for not having a religion

>theres legit muslims who just want to worship without being harassed on plane trips


Just dont be an asshole no matter what you believe

>>550577372
I meant to put
>That is not what atheism is
as the second sentence.
What I described is what atheism is, I just put that sentence in the wrong place

>>550576628
But it does start affecting people when elected officials believe the earth is 6,000 years old and a lady who didn't have sex got pregnant and had a child.

>>550577316
U Mad?

>>550577695
Holy shit, I can't believe I have to dumb this down...here goes.

Everything that you bring into existance is real. Spiderman is real because he exist. He's in books and movies, you see. There is no such thing as a man-spider. It's not possibe (at least not yet). Unicorns, Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy they all exist, but they are not real. They are fictional. Try to not think so 2D.

>>550577747
>no one wins this argument..
Some times a road trip is more about the journey than the destination.

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>>550577642
Nothing about anybody born after 1986 is important enough to go into the annals of history.
Justin Bieber/Dubstep?
Tweeting/Facebook?
A US president elected because he's black?

A whole generation whose greatest accomplishments come from video games.

>>550577695
Imaginary things exist in a sense. If I asked you who Mickey Mouse was you would be able to tell me. He exists in print and media but was never a real, in the flesh mouse. It's all semantics and depends on how literal you want to get.

>>550577632
abortion is for sluts and rape victims. Neither of which garner my respect or sympathy. You're a little faggot. hahaha

>>550573484
You couldn't be more right, OP.

>>550578001
>>extremist atheists: neckbeards

holly shit this!

you can be atheist an be a perfectly normal person, just as a so called moral religious christian.

>god creates universe
>creates planet for us
How fucking egotistical, this story is clearly man made.
>gives us free will
>will damn all non-believers
>why give free will in the first place
You'd have to be a fucking moron to believe this is intelligent design.

>>550577965
You just reiterated what I said. Atheism is lacking a belief in a god while anti-theism is asserting that there is no god. Did you even read what I wrote?

>>550577793
no feminism is bull shit. What you described was civil rights.

>>550576628
>>550578043
Not to mention gay rights, blue laws, the Dark Ages (religion hindering scientific progress), reproductive rights, etc.

>>550578307
see this
>>550578002

>>550574762
you realize there are these things called dictionaries or google or common sense?

>>550577883
What I mean is... a Gabbbywacker doesn't exist. You can't find one anywhere, it's totally made up. It only exist in my mind and I'm the only one who knows what it looks like or functions as. However, once I draw one it now exist. It's still not real though, it's just a fictional object (or person). You understand?

>>550578128
But isnt spiderman fictional as well?

His story does fall in the fiction catagory.

You said spider man is real because he exist?
unicorns santa tooth fairy exist but arent real?

How?

Its the same concept all fictional stories.

Santa/ spider man have movies, books memorabilia whats the difference?

Youre making no sense at all

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>>550577656
keep juggling semantics all you like. It will never make sense for two exactly opposite things to be the exact same thing.
>inb4 continued damage control

>>550577950
That's the beauty of agnostic, you don't need the atheist.

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>>550578128
>spider man is real because he exist
>they all exist, but they are not real

>existing makes you real
>all these things exist, but are not real

What is happening?

>>550575527

Atheism is stated as a "disbelief" in God, not a "belief in no God". There's a subtle difference, you fucking retard.

>>550576258
>where did the universe come from?
>what is history and how do we know anything older than one generation ago?
>what is archaeology?
>what are Roman records (and who is King Herod)?
>where does the human sense of conscience come from?
>what is consciousness and from what does it arise? Is it possible for a completely deterministic machine to be conscious?
>what is the point of life?
>what, if anything, is death like?
>what is the value of human life?
>why have compassion for anyone else?
>why do humans even ask these questions? Aren't we just deterministic machines?

>>550578662
Likewise, though, you could just say you're an atheist. Only a few atheists are "strong atheists" and assert that no gods exist.

>>550578513
I guess. Just seems like some semantics to me, but I can understand the difference between a conceptual existence (a fictional character everyone knows) and a physical existence (a dog is real).

>>550578307
Sorry but you have gnostic and agnostic completely confused with other terms. Anti theism still does not imply a definitive knowledge that god does not exist. Only gnostic and agnostic refer to whether or not we know for sure, whether about god or blue unicorn monkeys circling Venus. Being atheist orr anti theist does not indicate one,'s level of certainty of gods existence. Sorry you didn't understand your own post

>>550577316
There's a difference between belief and knowledge. I don't believe my country speaks english. I fucking know, you fucking simpleton. rofl.

I'm pretty sure there is a church of batman somewhere in the world. I know for a fact that there is a church of atheism.

>>550578692
Athiesim- disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.

Looks like its saying belief in no god


The way you say it is there is only one God and not multiples.

Atheists believe there is no god. Not they know he exists just doesnt believe in him.

>>550578128
Dude you mean he's conceptual(an idea) but not Material (physically existing) Get your terms right.

>>550578683
>Pleb can't comprehend physical existence and ideological existence.

"religion is for women and queers"

colin haycraft

>>550577793
read what i wrote cockmunch. women are on par with men. this was second wave feminism. it is done, their goals are achieved and it passed into history. what we have now is third wave feminism which is whining cunts with swollen victim complexes trying to tear down the "patriarchy"

>>550578178
when you start having actual sex, your opinion might change

>>550579023

No, a disbelief in God is not the same a belief of no god. The former is atheism. The latter is not.

The hint is the very fucking definition of the word

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>>550573484
I can see that happening.

>>550578427
>implying civil rights cannot still be active
>implying feminism cannot be underneath the umbrella of civil rights e.g. gay rights
>implying what you think of feminism matter
>implying you're not a complete retard
>mfw I couldn't even resist making ad homenim attacks
>mfw no face

>>550579146
Its not that he cant comprehend it. Its you cant explain your details for shit

>>550578128
>Confusing a character existing as a concept with something that actually is a part of reality.

>>550573484
>militant atheism
ftfy

>>550578987
Yea my bad I messed up the terms.

>>550579257
A disbelief in God but knowing God exists is agnosticism

A disbelief in the existence in God/Gods is atheism

>>550578923
>your moms asshole
>irrelevant
>google
>google.
>evolution
>evolution, AI has made leaps so probably.
>life is what you make it
>death cannot be compared, no more so than life.
>Nothing
>Reasons
>Curiosity, no

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>>550575527
A critique of your post leads to the conclusion that you may suffer from an intellectual disability.

>>550579146
>defending his shit tier wording

>>550579331
You're even worse, faggot.
>can't into ID

>>550573484
you believe in fairy tale hahaha fagot

>>550573484
Nothing against Atheists,
but fuck i hate that fat "The Amazing Athiests"
fucking facel

>>550574141
What do you mean you were an atheist? You stopped because it wasn't cool? Its not a fucking club, its the lack of any theistic belief.

>>550573484

Don't know or care who the one on left is, so I'll just assume it's some feminist. As for TAA he became an e-begging sack of shit years ago and lost all right to any respect.

Youtube atheism is long dead I'm afraid. It's glory days where around 2007/8 when it was rampant and people where at each others throats. Then assholes like Thunderf00t (who has the social skills of a bucket of donkey cum) tried to make an elitist little group and cut everyone else out single-handedly killing the fucking thing in the process.

That meant the only atheists people really knew about were now the "big name" atheists on Youtube. The ones organizing fucking conferences that no one gives a fuck about and e-begging so they can "continue to make videos". How the fuck does that even work? What's so expensive about sitting in front of a camera and talking? I see people doing it on YT all the fucking time, but the funny thing is they're not begging for money.

When it strayed off topic into feminism and TF tried to make his little special gang and cut the rest out it died. I would seriously fucking take the Brett Keane days back any day, even if he is a scamming lying piece of shit, it was at least funny in those days.

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>>550577102

How can we be real if spiderman isn't real

>>550579405
Well then carry on good sir

>>550579561
That first sentence makes no sense. You can you believe and not believe something at the same time?

>>550579741
Peoples beliefs can change. Some atheist find religion.

Some religious people find atheism

It happens, the way you bash him makes it seem like you see it as a club.

>>550579862
Thanks for the correction. I've been using anti-theist in my mind for a while when I really meant gnostic atheists.

CHRISTIANITY IS SUPERIOR TO ALL OTHER RELIGIONS

EVOLUTION IS A DEGENERATE SCIENCE

SIEG HEIL JESUS

TEACH YOUR CHILDREN HOW TO FOLD THEIR HANDS FOR THE JESUS GREETING

>>550579903
I think he means "knowing that God possibly exists."

>>550579405
I like that you can admit when you are wrong, it's refreshing to see

>>550573484
what the fucks the point in caring about anything if youre just going to generalize anything

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>>550573484

>>550578168

makes sense

>>550579903
Its meaning you acknowledge that some form of deity exists but youre not convinced its any of the Gods/God that are referred to in the world.

>>550577779
oh wow kid just shut up

>>550580145
Yea I kinda feel like I have a duty to act on the internet like I would in the real world to a certain extant. It'd be a shitty thing or delusional to pretend I'm right when I'm not.

I guess I'm considered an atheist but I prefer just to be called non-religious because of the reputation that people have associated with atheists. Religion is cool for some people but it's not for me.

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>>550580049
And it is true that antitheists trend towards gnostic. I was just pointing out they likely aren't all gnostic. I consider myself agnostic onyly in the sense that we can't truly disprove something's existence. Right now I can't believe I encountered civility on /b/

>>550580250
Like Deism?

>>550573484
So atheism is for male superiority?

>>550578001
Right, Fanatical or zealous behavior is what breeds those. If life teaches us anything, its that everything is to be done in moderation. Whenever too much of something is experienced or focused on, it becomes a bad thing.

Keep both your philosophical and your physical interests diverse or that is what you become.

>>550579756
Why all the hate for Thunderf00t? What do you mean, 'his special little gang'?

>>550580602
Yeah but, not based only on nature

>>550580576
Miracles can happen. Nah I love /b/ because people here aren't afraid to discuss controversial topics and be assholes but I like to refrain from being one myself if I can.

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>>550578178
>Being this retarded.
>Not being aborted.
>inb4 8 b8

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>>550578989
>everyone in the world is an american
>everyone in the world interacts with english-speaking Americans
>implying you didn't miss the point anyway and are hyper-focusing on a moot point
you christians really are stupid

>if I keep juggling with semantics they'll forget my faith is completely fucking retarded

>>550580836
So like a supernatural higher power which no on else has described yet?

>>550580679
Are you really gonna be that faggot who ruins this thread?

>>550575391
>A religion is an organized collection of beliefs


Nope, more like:

>A religion is an organized collection of beliefs, cultural systems, and world views that relate humanity to an order of existence.
>to an order of existence.
>to an order of existence.
>to an order of existence.

Do you understand now? You actually proved yourself wrong.

They're similar in that the people behind them are frequently attacked, but the positions themselves rarely are. They're both strong sources of moral indignation, but feminism is notably stronger there. Anti-feminism is probably a better candidate for "feminism for men" if that's what you're comparing.

>>550577002
Atheists have been this way since before you were born. Marx called them "children, assuring everyone who is ready to listen to them that they are not afraid of the bogy man." It hasn't gotten worse; you've just been exposed to a lot of especially bad, cherry-picked examples.

>>550581017
Kinda, they see it as more of a "its possible there is a God and possible there isnt. I dont care im just gonna live my life"

Its a lack of giving a fuck about it not caring about other peoples opinions on it

>>550580867
Respect homie

ITT: semantics

You know guys, there's only one religion we really need
>pic related

>>550580797

Short version when he clustered people like dprjones, TAA, Zomgitscriss, Happiecabbie et al into a kind of breakaway group to try and gain all the community focus. He essentially shut all other atheists out leading to internal fighting, that coupled with the fact he's a smug arrogant cunt didn't help matters.

In my honest opinion he has done more damage to atheism on YT than every other user combined. The guys a twat.

>>550581286
fag

>>550581272
Yea I've got a friend who's an apatheist. He's apathetic towards the question of whether or not there is a God or gods. He just doesn't care.

>>550581286
clever
>hopefully

>>550581284
Respect. I do think that 4chan plays an important part in discussions these days on topics that people wouldn't dare approach elsewhere.

I suppose you could compare radical (read: retarded, lesbian American) feminism to radical (read: retarded, overzealous neckbeard) atheism.

The non-radical variants of both of these are absolutely fine though.

^This can be applied to a lot of things.

>>550581467
It's called nihilist

>>550581118
No I didn't. I was quoting part of his post, specifically about the beliefs, to make a point you can see in my post. He proved himself wrong

>>550581467
Im astounded there is actually a word for that..

>>550581467
That is sort of what I thought agnostics were, people who realize that when we are talking about a FUCKING GOD, really all forms of logical deduction go out the window. There could be a god and there could also not be a god. I will never know unless said God proves their existence, in which case it will likely be done in a way that is without a doubt and then there will exist the scientific proof of such a being.

>>550573484
>>550573484
I agree OP.

>>550573484
>>550573484
yes

atheism is just for dumb ppl who pretend to be smart

oh you guys figured out that ideas from pre-evolved humans in a pre-scientific age is bullshit? how'd you all figure that one!

-Heaven

>>550577002
There's atheism and militant atheism. There's the guy who has a live and let live policy and he guy who picks a fight when you say merry christmas.

I'm pretty sure TJ wants to help the atheist movement but he just makes us look bad. Unfortunately, we need guys like him to sink down to Ken Ham's level in order to have crazies battling other crazies.

>>550581272
Took you unbelievably fucking long to just define agnosticism, like you should have in your first post. "The belief it's possible there's a God, but possible also that one doesn't exist".

This whole thread is full of some fucking autists.

>>550581625
Nah because he doesn't believe in nothing.

>>550581665
Yea I'm not sure where I heard it.

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>>550573484
I'd say that MRA is the male equivalent of feminisn, because it's literally the exact same thing as feminism except it's meant for males.

However, the overlap between euphoric fedora-core atheism and MRA is way too big to ignore.

>>550581286

God has failed me =(

>>550579201
speak for yourself, bud. I know what sex is like. Little 5 year olds like you, with no self control and the mental capacity of every other breeding drone out there, won't change my opinion of it.
fucking pleb

>>550573484
Meh, except feminism is legit, and atheism is neutral.

It's fucking hilarious how religions still exist.
Humans are stupid.

>>550573484
>implying religion is sticking to the current gen

your god is dead op, just like your shitty gene line

>>550582334
>legit

>>550580071
I haven't actually met 1 christian that thinks this way. haha

>>550581805
I will not live and let live if religions are harmful to society, just like I wouldn't for any other thing. When Christians or Muslims, or any religion, affect government policy, restrict human rights, et cetera, I won't say, ' Oh, it's okay because they are doing this because of their religious beliefs'

I do agree about the christmas thing. There are some cunts who would get mad if you said 'Merry Christmas' to them, and that is uncalled for

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>>550573484
That guy is just a sad fatfuck. I bet he smells like ass.

>>550582142
>Implying /b/ hasn't done more fucked up shit, with animals or children

>>550582808
nigger

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You do know that simply not believing in any god makes you an atheist don't you? It's just that a few neck bearded faggots like to boast about it because they'll do anything to try and make themselves seem intellectual without actually doing anything academic.

Most of the UK is atheist or agnostic now and most who browse 4chan will be as well, we just choose not to be tossers and cause arguments over such a small thing.

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>>550582407

In the "christian world" this is mostly an american problem, I lived in France Belgium Germany and in the UK and the only believers I met were muslims. America needs to enter the 21st century.

Shittiest move ever btw

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>>550582142

Shit! I could have done without seeing that.

>>550580947
It's not a moot point. It's completely legitimate.
Your implications mean jack shit because they're fucking stupid. Not a christian. I'm, as some of you would describe, an atheist.

>>550582584
I mean, look, christianity is the only religion whose charter revolves around the idea of imperfection and the need to be better. say what you want about the idiot fundamentalist, but at least the dogma recognizes that life and people are shit and that only "being near god" or whatever will make "Us" better.

I've had it up to here with /b/ matter of fact the whole board period. You guys ruin people lives, are fucking racist to the extreme, betas, fucking trap lovers, circlejerking, pedos and most of all assholes. I can't believe I spent 3 years on this board, just watching you faggot ass losers being pathetic, little maggots behind a keyboard typing edgy shit up. It's people like you that gives the internet a bad reputation and perspective. Why don't you all just go die, fucking end your life you faggot ass loser. DIE

>>550573484
amish feminism is not exist

>>550573484
Pls
>feminism
Believes in equality of sexes. Notices deficits towards women, and works to alleviate gender disparities
>feminismeme
Whines on tumblr about the horrors of rape while living a sheltered, safe life in a middle class family at a dominantly white suburb. Declares herself bisexual in order to relate to the LGBT community. Believes in thin privilege. Can list all 56 genders.
>atheism
Doesn't believe in God. Has many good friends who happen to be Christian. Does not let religion interfere with personal life. Respects Christianity. May or may not attend church
>atheismeme
Whines on reddit about how his family makes him go to church. Gets offended by the mention of God in casual conversation. Refuses to recite the pledge of allegiance. Intensely focused on debating any theist he knows. Neil Degrasse Tyson and Carl Sagan are his heroes. Wears a fedora as a fashion icon.

Learn the difference fags.

>>550580947
>Fat Smelly neckbeards get trolled to easily
>Hate fat smelly neckbeards
>Play devils advocate
>Make legitimate argument
>Apparently I'm a christian.
>LOL

>>550583137
Nice pasta

1/10, though credit for having so many sock puppets.

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>>550582970
Correction, the only believers under the age of 80.

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>>550583061
the point was that religion is not "any shared belief."
>ur dumb so there!
did you come here with the intention of getting blown the fuck out?

>>550582970
Pretty much this. I lived in France as well from birth until 3 years ago. I am 31, old enough (arguably and old fart by your pre-teen standards), and although atheists did not argue with Christians/believers there, the Christians also usually kept to themselves and hardly pushed their shit beliefs down your throat. It seems Americans have a rather large ego..

>>550583392
>I-I was just trolling guys!
oh god, holy fuck.
>DAMAGE
>CONTROL

This is what is called a straw man argument. The "amazing" atheist doesn't represent most atheists.

>>550581652
keep telling yourself that, buddy.
>Atheism is lack of belief in god
>you believe that god doesn't exist.
>Belief
>wat

>>550583365
Your parents should not be able to force you to go to church. I hated going to church as a child.
You are not obligated to recite the pledge of allegiance, and since it has 'god' in it, it implicates the US as a christian nation. The US is not a christian nation, in fact it was founded secular, not promoting any religion at all. Because of this, many atheists, or even people who recognize the need of a wall of separation between church and state, do not want to recite the pledge

Those two complaints are legitimate grievances.

>>550583415
fuck you why the hell would you think that was pasta?

atheism among men isn't anywhere near as unreasonable and childish and attention seeking as feminism is among women

everybody has their religious beliefs and every group has those loud obnoxious few people that give everyone an bad name why can't you all just accept it and move on without shitting all over everyones religious beliefs?

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>>550583392
>I was only pretending to be retarded!

>>550583135
my momma thinks christianity will make us better, but she doesn't force it down people's throats like a nazi. If she doesn't bother people about it, why are some people incapable of tolerating her choice to believe? If you didn't you'd just be another bigot.

>>550583247
of course it does. it exists everywhere. that's like saying dissatisfaction and dissent don't exist. is there a formal movement? no, but it does exist.

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>>550583953
edgy atheismemer detected

>>550583886
You are using so many strawmen.
I never said I believe there is no god.
I am an agnostic atheist, which means I do not believe in a god, but I also do not believe there COULD NOT be a god. In other words, I'm not certain there is no god

>>550582142
is this real? If yes, why?

>>550583953
kill yourself

>>550583953

Your parents are obligated to take care of you. Where the fuck are they going to put you if by law you are not required to go to church? That is the stupidest statement I have ever heard.

And don't say the pledge of allegiance if you don't want to. God as an inspiration is part of the U.S. history whether you like it or not.

Please go back to being a theist because you are a fucking retard.

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>>550583953
The Us is majoritarily Christian, I'ts also mainly whites and females. Those who want to call it a christian nation can also call it a nation of white christian pussies.

>>550584315
because vociferous christians are a fucking cancer in this country and have been for the past 1500 years in the west

>>550584486
Maybe because hes a neckbeard fag?

>>550584405
As I said, they are legitimate grievances, and calling me an 'atheismemer' ( I've never even heard that before) is a silencing tactic, and a way for you to dismiss my arguments.

There is a wall between church and state, so there should not be god in the pledge or on the money. I also don't think you should be able to force anyone to go to church.

>>550576258
implying science isn't just a bunch of faggots writing books as well. Honestly who gives a fuck, its not like we're using what happened in the past to improve the future. fuck you idiot

>>550584564
I'm talking about teenagers, who are legally able to be alone, yet their parents make them go to church. I understand if they are young children, because where else are they going to go?

I never believed in god anyway you fucking cunt

>>550584852
The books written by the "faggots" are supported by the evidence, don't mix myth and reality.

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>>550584805
>pledge of allegiance
It's such an insignificant matter throwing a fit about it makes you look like a butthurt euphorian. Any German would agree that such a thing has no place in schools. However, the degree of conformity required is so little that it makes any resistors look like edgy faggots. It's the equivalent of feminismemers getting pissed off people use gender and sex interchangeably

>no child should be forced to go to church
Just like no child should be forced to go shopping with mom, right?

For God's sake it's cheaper than getting a fucking babysitter each Sunday, the child is introduced to friends and potential relationships, and he/she might even learn a thing or two about our culture.

>>550584535
>>550585020
Lel

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>>550584142
>>550583726
If that is what you want to believe.
Deep down you realize how fucking stupid you are. I really don't care.

>>550585085

Don't go then. If they hit you or if they take away money or food for not going that is child abuse.

Also, you need to grow up and learn to respect other people's opinions about religion.
Many Jews and Mormons on average have a much higher IQ compared to atheists.

>>550584692
please elaborate instead of using conjecture. Conjecture makes you look like a retard. If I remember right, stalin was an atheist.

>>550585792
>>550585412
See this, I'm talking about teenage atheists. The ones you said were on reddit complaining

>>550585792
I don't think the government should be endorsing religion. Granted, it's not a very big deal, but I see why some would not stand and recite the pledge, because of that and because they don't have to.

>>550585085
I wish my parents made me go to church when I was a teenager. Those youth groups have some hot Christian bitches, and they're surprisingly dtf once you pronounce your undying love for Jesus and plans to marry them. Though not Mormons, of course.

>>550585792
You said god you piece of shit! Stop forcing your fucking religion down my throat!

>>550585792
>For God's sake it's cheaper than getting a fucking babysitter each Sunday, the child is introduced to friends and potential relationships, and he/she might even learn a thing or two about our culture.

It also indoctrinates him/her and destroys his/her critical thinking ability.

>>550585579
Damage control. It's funny how you use this and it describes exactly what you're doing. You can't argue so you attack the person's credibility. Good use of ad homosex

>>550586278
>this is what atheismemers actually believe
It's the parents' responsibility to keep the kid's head out of his ass, not church or school. Like father like son, and if the former is a dumb shot then the latter will be as well.

Hey guys, Deist here.

What's with all the yelling and screaming? Did someone let the fedora atheists and dick riding christards out?

>>550586015
back in my day, it was called "trying to make my child not grow up into a little pussy". Rofl

>>550586015
I'm not religious, or in a particularly religious family, except for my grandparents that are long dead. I wasn't forced to go as a teenager, but I did go sometimes as a child.

I respect other people's opinions, I just don't agree with them It's people like this faggot
>>550585862
Who are retarded, that annoy me. Twisting definitions, making shit up, then going into damge control

>>550586709
How's life in Paris, François-Marie?

>>550586278

Well guess what you dumbass. We all have to make our ways through this pile of shit and not only will it cause riots to take away religion, it is completely impractical.

Why don't we force big companies to educate us on absolutely everything they do. YEAH FORCE THE PRIVILEGE DOWN THEIR THROATS.

You sound like a nigger who thinks everything should be free.

>>550586669
I take issues with the church going process, if you want your child to meet people and make friends something already exists, it's called a school.

>>550573484
hey OP do you have mental problems? its ok if you do its not your fault.

>>550587194
I never said anything about taking away religion, are you sure you're responding to the right person?

>>550586029
conjecture? it's accepted as fact. to wit: the evolution/id thing plus the text book thing, christianity as a tool for the republican party, the whole calvinist/capatalism/america thing, a tool for racism, etc, etc. i mean, really, christianity = cancer should not strike you as conjecture. if you're going to try to sound intelligent, keep up with the accepted dialogue. you know, and don't use your belief to obscure yourself from historical fact. it makes you sound sophomoric, trite and whiny.

>>550584353
of course it does,but blacks who think '...whites,damn whites' it is not blackpride yet

>>550587201
All I know is that I want my son to be happier than I. If belief in God will make life more fulfilling, then so be it.

>>550587297
What's your point man

>>550587438
>no child should be forced to go to church
>For God's sake it's cheaper than getting a fucking babysitter each Sunday, the child is introduced to friends and potential relationships, and he/she might even learn a thing or two about our culture.

Oh okay. Then shut the fuck up, because that is exactly what we are talking about.

>>550579586
>flippant responses
Alrighty. Perhaps you should revisit these questions when you've grown up some more. Or maybe when you get a little closer to death-- we'll see how sarcastic you feel when you get diagnosed with pancreatic cancer or something.

>>550587465
Holy shit, you verified your level of retardation to me. Not even gonna bother, this is just plain funny. Bet you're one of those truthers who thinks 9/11 was an inside job. lol

you sound sophomoric, trite and whiny. And you're a dumbass.

>>550587714
I find a belief in god harmless to a certain point, I just hope you won't make him cross the crazy line.

There was the word "grace" in my captcha I find the irony of the situation quite hilarious.

>>550587714
I'd take logic and reason over delusions any day

>>550587941
I thought the subject was atheism, if you want to have an argument about you should also hear the moderate point of view, otherwise you're just generalizing and making the same mistakes as militant atheists who say that every religious person is dumb as fuck.

>>550587981
so you're just going to insult me and not even comment on my attacks of your logic? stay mad, bro.

>>550586792
>Twisting definitions, making shit up, then going into damage control.

exactly what you're doing, bud. You're really too blind to see it. It's almost funny how serious you sound right now. "It's not coool bro, it's pissing me off. This guy is being reasonable, but it conflicts with my knee jerk ideology based on emotions and being too retarded to understand english"

I don't care, but you do. This is the difference between us.

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>>550573992
i loled hard!

>>550588628
No, it's what you are doing. This entire thread you've called atheism a religion, etc.
You are clearly a fucking moron that doesn't have the slightest grasp on basic logic

>>550588284
which is why you disagreed with me and proceeded to talk shit and claim damage control. rofl

Logic and reason at max levels right there.

>Implying this
>>550584142
>Is me
>>550588284

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>>550573484
how do you even

>>550588623
i mean, really, christianity = cancer should not strike you as conjecture. if you're going to try to sound intelligent, keep up with the accepted dialogue. you know, and don't use your belief to obscure yourself from historical fact.


Dude what you said was fucking stupid. How am I gonna argue against a bigot? Are all those stupid christian niggers and spics cancerous to you? haha Go suck a cock, pussy. You sound like a whiny bitch. Need I remind you as to where we are?

>>550589051
hey man, all you did was talk shit to me, when i was just innocently posting my opinion. you can't accuse some one of something you just did 5 minutes ago, you hypocrite. i mean, really, who cares if you believe in god or not. geesh, join the 21st century, will ya?

>>550589001
not once have I made anything up. I welcome for you to prove your assertions. unless you're a lazy good for nothing beaner.

>>550573484
I think being a loud annoying atheist is the same as being a loud annoying feminist, if that's what you mean. Having no belief in a god and believing in feminist theory however aren't really analogous though.

>>550589393
dude, you make absolutely no sense. also, who are you yelling at? why are you yelling?

and why do you care to argue about this? who or what are you trying to protect?