the difference between martial arts and combat sports are numerous. let me first start off by saying martial arts are for real. they don't train to knock you out or to get points. they teach you how to kill someone with real shit that's banned from the ufc like dim mak and tiger claw. some shit is just too dangerous for the ring. sport fighters care about money and safety. real martial artists care about spiritual development with unity of mind and fist. its all meditation bro. think about it. steven seagal taught anderson silva and lyoto machida everything they know. he only revealed to them a tiny fraction of real martial arts and they became two of the most dominant champions in ufc history. it goes to show you what can happen when mma meatheads are faced with a real challenge. the so called soft martial arts are actually the most dangerous but 1. most of our moves are too dangerous for the ring 2. besides were not in it for the money. and 3. some of our techniques are so ancient were not ready to reveal it to the public because our competitors might steal them and use them against us. it's all about manipulating your chi energy bro. think outside the box. people in sport fighting don't understand what real martial arts is about. they don't understand the discipline required to get a black belt in a martial art so they focus on one thing power. the mma meatheads compensate. they buy tapout and metal mulisha t-shirts but i'm not intimidated lol. if one of them ever comes charging at me i'll simply step to the side and avoid his punches and eventually i'll break his wrist. martial science is about utilizing your environment to your advantage and dismantling your opponent as effectively as possible. it's not a sport. there are no points. what most mma meatheads don't understand is if they want to grow they need to be like water. like bruce lee said empty your mind be formless be shapeless like water. without water there is no life.
>>975636 >>975660 Right answer here, combat sports and martial arts are pretty much the same, just done somewhat differently and with different rules, movement allowances, like utilizing gloves, rings/cages, timed rounds, etc,. Combat sports can be called martial arts and martial atrts can be called combat sports. The training, especially sparring you do in both should get you competent and used to being hit
>>975636 Combat sports are competitive martial arts. I guess i should say competitive martial arts where you fight your opponent with your respective style in the ring or on the mat. There are other competitive martial arts like Wushu and some TKD stuff that is based on exhibition and showing off your athleticism and skill through a choreographed routine.
Honestly, >>975660 is right, in the most general sense; it varies depending on your definition of what "martial arts" is, but the reason martial arts are called what they are is because they are an artform, as they are a display shown through effort and dedication. They use physical movement, namely combat as the medium for the art, so they are what is considered "martial". Because of this, most (if not all) combat sports can also be considered martial arts (but not all martial arts attempt to make the distinction of making themselves sports).
The only real difference between the two is that one's intention is to also be displayed in a setting of rules and regulations for the sake of recreation.
>>975636 It depends on how you define "martial art" some hold that only arts developed by and for warriors and soldiers fall into the category. This definition not only rules out combat sports, but Chinese martial arts which were primarily the purview of civilians.
Or you could just say that combat sports are a subset of martial arts. and there is no reason to take the word "martial" literally.
>>977251 Combat sport has certainly proven its worth, but how do you propose adapting that to training with a nine foot long naginata or nagimaki? any contact at speed would crush.
And why was one of the most feared styles of swordsmanship in the bakumatsu period a style with no sparring, just thousands of repetitive strikes a day couples with paired kata? Furthermore, why was competitive sparring equipment not invented until after the wars were over and restrictions had been placed on duels?
To put it simply, when it comes to weapons like the sword and spear, pattern practice has historically speaking, been the mainstay of training for battlefield practical weapons work.
>>975711 Thank you. I haven't been trying, my shitposting was virtually nothing compared to this. I can do better, I can be more, it's about time I stopped slumping around. I'm better than this, and you've showed me that. I could shitpost like that, too, I just need to stop doing fuck all.
Let say that you are trained in fancy traditional martial arts and you have perfected the style without actually sparring. At street a asshole suddenly pop and easily tackle you into the ground because you didn't expect the situations and you don't know how to counter it.
You are badass MMA fighter who have won several match without loss. After leaving the gym, a asshole pop up and want to rob you. With confidence you gonna show him that he shouldn't mess with you. With speed you going for leg grab but the asshole did a downward elbow strike at back of your head! And it is illegal move in MMA matches!
>>978307 Kendo and fencing are rather divorced from practical sword work, kendo less so as it at least maintains practical sword work in the kendo kata, even if they are not emphasized or well integrated into kendo shiai.
Holy shit, this screams of "I am 12 and what is this?". Hardly any school doesn't train for sparring, and if anything, most sparring that goes on is very well intended to be rough and rigorous, unless you're doing TKD or Aikido. Just because you think MMA is so cool doesn't magically make them innately better you twats.
>>978008 >If you can't practice it you can't apply it I never practiced tying a coin knot once in my life, but after reading an infograph, I tied my first coin not without a single millisecond of practice.
Martial Arts/Combat Sports seem exiting, but I hat the idea of hurting anyone. Is there a good in between for guys like me? I've been thinking about learning fencing or something like that, but I'm probably too old and big to start.
>>975636 the real difference of martial arts and sports is that for years the martial arts were created for war as the name particularly pointed traditional , today the day of the date can be seen in this classification : traditional martial arts like Yagyū Shingan - ryu , kenpo , karate, bujinkan (the latter is debatable ) these are focused on traditional aspects have become a folklore tradition for his appearance but were created to real situations each with its physical and philosophical differences however they are made for a war that today is unmatched I do not mean they are not effective but that their value in a " situation " not being evolved in modern aspects of combat have a difficulty applying
The following are the sports martial arts like boxing, tae kwon do , bjj, mma these are far from the martial arts as a model in which were embodied the previous name it, the arts sports combat are intended to create a sporting spirit and are trying to look away from real situations if not rather they are for certain sports field goals are met for example: all are based on fighting one on one , there are rules that can not be broken (in this case would be no longer a sports if no rules ) , weapons do not exist in competitions as weapons ( if not as a representation ) all are related to sports institutions and usually have a good job to be healthy modern martial arts are for example: krav maga , systema / sambo , self defense, these martial arts are created for modern "situations" in which the application and approaches aim to survival of the student, usually they try to be direct . sparring or fighting is not contemplated , guns are commonly used and are usually things that one " could " face ( not swords )
Well I can't decide where to ask it and I don't want to start a whole new thread, so I'll see if the wisdom in this thread can help me out. My university offers beginner MMA as well as beginner Tae Kwon Do classes. I wanted to get into one or the other but don't know what I should pick. Any tips, or should I just ignore them both?
The diference is that martial arts (like kung fu, aikido, ninjitsu, or most karate styles) are choreographed dancing for people who were bullied inschool and dream of getting back their lunch money some day with they awesome ninja powers and iron fist of the fire dragon. And in combat sports you learn something for real
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