Is it true that Krav Maga, Cystema and Thai Chi are macdojos that only exist to gain profit and aren't useful at all?
I've always thought that every martial art is useful to some degree and that it also depends a 100% in the individual and his "style" to make it work.
Recently I asked a friend how to start in the martial arts world and he told me to learn boxing and then go for judo.
But I've recently read >pic related and started looking at Vasiliev's cystema videos and I'm kinda curious.
What are your opinions on these martial arts?
How to identify a Macdojo?
a Mcdojo is a business model alot of mc dojo teach bjj, a ver effective art.
Most martial arts have some practical elements, but to say all martial arts are equally good for fighting is straining it beyond credibility.
most tai chi is just standing yoga, and not many people do it well. most krav is watered down a lot from the original version, systema I don't know alot about but people here don't like it.
If you can bring a another martial artist down, and choke or disable him, your already a better fighter than 90% of the population. True you should not go to the ground with his friends around but in context BJJ can and has been adapted for law enforcement
>I know the best way is to run against multiple people
There's an art for that called Parkour.
>is there a martial art specialized for defending against groups?
Paintball and Airsoft for special forces training?
For hand to hand combat?
We should make one, and then dominate The Hip Show.
Kapap contains alot of multiple oppenents training but
same danger with krav maga is that you run into McDojo trainer (well atleast you can be sure he atleast
read a book before taking your money).
Honestly just don't go on the ground, keep an eye
on the exits and bounce when you get the
Most people aren't even aware that Taichi is a martial art. Me included.
I went into it for health benefits and it was described as something that is also good for martial artists, because it helps with your body's condition (which it actually fucking does - my back feels like new and I'm much more flexible now) and only later did I find out that it's an actual martial art.
Then again, I'm a martial artist with one main art and a bunch of supplementary arts that I use to remove weak points in my skills. Like, I did boxing when I realized that I have no clue about punching.
Boxing and Taekwondo are like hotdog carts.
They're cheap, dirty, but they'll sell you filling food for cheap, even if the food has no substance.
The most effective hand to hand, 1 vs 1 fighters are MMA fighters.
Every art has its weaknesses, every art has its strengths, and some arts have even more weaknesses.
MMA is constantly (even if slowly sometimes) trying to filter out the bullshit in these older arts, and altering the good stuff to work together for the ultimate hand to hand, 1 vs 1 combat system.
Copy and pasted off an older thread on "how to Identify a McDojo".
>Overblown claims like saying it's the most effective version of the martial art, direct links to the style's founder or extremely famous practitioners or ridiculously high rankings like 10th dans. There's good places with strong claims to them but if it feels overblown, investigate because chances are you're getting rused
>Claims of guaranteed black belts in X amount of time, if there's any claim of the sort then it's bullshit. If there's a whole load of teenagers with black belts then that's also your cue to get the crap out
>Demanding upfront payments or a contract signing or anything of the sort. Obviously you're gonna have to pay but if the size and contents of your wallet and how much of that they're going to get are of the utmost importance to them, shit's fishy
>Athletic instructors and students. The latter get some leeway because not everyone has the time and drive to be /fit/, but the people teaching you how to fight should at the very least look healthy
>A focus on reality-based training, free sparring so students can practice the application of techniques against resisting opponents is a paramount of Judo and BJJ and part of what makes them so well-respected. If it's all compliant exercises and demonstration stuff where a guy stands still while the teacher performs a 20 hit combo or magical-looking throw with barely any contact, look elsewhere
What is your opinion on drills like in this video:
Would you consider it compliant training or would you say that it fits more into a sparring mold?
I'm genuinely curious what the people on /asp/ think. Personally I think it's an interesting compromise between getting punched in the face and getting no training in proper defense, though I'd wager it only works with short-ranged weapon-based styles.
Also, is this style of drilling done in any art aside from balintawak? I never heard of it before starting, but I also only had peripheral knowledge of martial arts, aside from some judo I did as a child and a bit of aikido as a teenager.
Also, what would you say is better, chatty trainers that explain everything and can pull an explanation for any question out of their hat (i.e. they might just be bullshitting through questions) or trainers that have an aura of knowing their shit but an inability to express themselves (which might mean they are just a bit autistic and self-confident instead of skilled)?
boxing is too focused on sports for situations outside of the ring. one on one it's in the god tier range, but add more than one opponent and even pro boxers are forced back to novice levels of skill.
Basically, boxing is sufficient for any situation where you can stand up and throw punches against most common opponents.
Throw in weapons, people trained in other arts or situations where you cannot punch properly and you will have problems. Though the cardio will still help you.
I wouldn't want to fight a boxer, unless I'm in a situation where he's uncomfortable.