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This is the invertebrate general. If you have any questions about invertebrates, want to look into owning one or more, or want to simply discuss them, this is the thread to do so, whether its
>Tarantulas and other spiders
>Myriapods
>Mollusks
>Crustaceans
>Insects
>Or anything without a backbone
Feel free to post it.
Resources/help and information
>Tarantulas
https://tomsbigspiders.wordpress.com/beginner-guides/
http://www.theraphosidae.be/en
>Mantids
http://www.mantisonline.eu/index.php?lan=en
>Phasmids
http://www.phasmatodea.com/web/guest/home
Discord
https://discord.gg/kZtUyhw
Fuck US customs laws.
"If it doesn't have a spine, it's probably fine."
Remember, anons, you can't spell assassin without "ass"
twice
Why would you want to keep a roach of all things, they are gross and they stink like hell.
They exist literally everywhere, why the hell would you want vermin as a pet.
Wow, these two fucker do not want to mate for some reason
the male is so agressive against the poor female and she isn't even fighting back..
MATE, god damnit!
Maybe the female will molt to, because she doesn't really respond to his "whipping". I'm sure if she'd respond to this, he wouldn't attack her
>>2441241
also, P. metallica sling is finally showing some blue
>>2441219
>there's only one species of roach in the entire world
>>2441241
way to support RAPE CULTURE
For the guy in the last thread that asked about mantis care:
The best enclosures are clear plastic boxes because they are easy to work with. The minimum size should be 2x the length of the mantis for width and depth and 3x the length of the mantis for height. The height is the most important of these, they molt hanging upside down from the ceiling and they need enough room to do that. More is of course better, but too big makes it hard for the mantis to find food in there.
Ventilation is very important. Cut out the entire top of the box and at least one side and replace it with mesh. Use plastic or fiberglass flyscreen which you can get pretty cheap. Don't use metal mesh, it can hurt their feet.
Don't decorate the box too much. Again this has to do with molting, they need at least one big open space to do it in. One or two sticks are enough. Once the mantis is adult you can put it in a more decorated enclosure, as it won't molt anymore.
You can use substrate but it's not necessary. I just use paper towels in the bottom for hygiene, which can easily be replaced.
Most species need it warm during the day. A cheap 10W or 25W halogen desk lamp on a 10 to 12 hour timer is enough. Place it above the box and measure temperature, then move it closer or further away until you have ~30 °C in the warmest spot. At night it can and should cool down.
>cont.
>>2441265
Humidity isn't really that important for the mantids you have outside or most of the beginner species. Spray water lightly every 2 to 3 days so the mantis can drink and don't worry about it.
You should feed the mantis every 2 to 3 days, with relatively small prey. I know its fun to feed it big stuff, but that always carries to risk of injury. You can see how hungry the mantis is from the thickness of the abdomen. If it looks thin it needs food. If you can don't feed crickets. Now with M. religiosa it's probably fine but many species of mantis have problems digesting crickets and they can die from them. Also crickets can and will try eating a defenseless mantis too (during molting for example) and they try biting back when they are caught. I just wouldn't feed crickets.
The best food is different kinds of flies and other harmless flying insects. If you get your mantis from outside you can feed it stuff from outside too, like flies, moths, butterflies, grasshoppers. You can also give it bees and wasps but that can also be risky.
And that's pretty much it.
Also you said you were from Portugal, right? I know it was really fucking hot there the last few weeks, the mantids you have outside are probably adult or close to it (they grow faster when its hot). That means they won't live for very much longer. Roughly how big are the ones outside right now? And do they have full wings or not?
If they have wings they're adult and I'd suggest you buy a young nymph instead.
>tfw OG OP
>Forgot to fulfill my promise
I feel like a dum dum
Anyways, I'm back home, and it turns out she wasn't in pre-molt - her bald spot (old pic related) is still all peach colored, and when my grandparents tried feeding her crickets, she made five disappear in one sitting.
Damn
Oh well. At least I finally got to see her eat. Girl's practically a theraphosa with how much she can put down
>>2441219
some roaches might, but as many of us know, madagascar hissers don't have any smell (until they're dead).
>>2441268
Yeah, it appears the ones outside are fullt grown. So I should just buy some nymphs. Should I worry about cannibalism if I keep them in the same enclosure? I wanted to have more than just one mantis.
How do I deal with my dragonflies suspiciously always aiming for my eyes when flying?
>>2441320
>Should I worry about cannibalism if I keep them in the same enclosure?
That depends on the species. Most of the best beginner species (Sphodromantis, Hierodula) are highly cannibalistic. Those will definitely eat each other. You can still easily get more than one of those, you would just have to put them in separate enclosures. The little plastic boxes are really cheap though, so that's not a big problem.
There is one good beginner species that you can keep in groups though, Phyllocrania paradoxa. They stay smaller (about half the size of the others) but they look really cool and they are not cannibalistic.
All of the ones I mentioned should be really cheap too.
>>2441219
>all roaches smell
>I have no idea what I'm talking about
I switched from feeding crickets to Dubia specifically because they don't smell. I have a few thousand in a bin I haven't cleaned in 2 months and there is only the faint smell of the cucumber I tossed in a few days ago.
>>2441324
Pay their toll and offer a dead insect to them.
>>2441273
Here she is now
mad thicc
>When you blind af so you just stare at the walls
>>2441259
>Maybe they only want to get it on at night or something.
I tried everything I do with all my other Amplypygi species, but nothing worked so far. She always crawls away after letting him know she´s not interested, after that, he attacks her
>>2441260
>way to support RAPE CULTURE
kek
Well, I took the male out, will try again next week.
Fuck, why are these big guys so hard to mate
>>2441684
Maybe the female is not actually adult yet? Or simply not ready?
I mean you probably know this stuff better than me, but I'm not aware of any real way to tell if they're sexually mature.
And lastly? Does the area they come from have any seasonality? Maybe some change in temperature or humidity would induce mating.
>>2441241
I have amblypygi and those two both look like juvenile females
>>2441715
they are both adult, 100%
Their siblings were already mated successfully
My only explanation would be that the female will molt soon and that´s why she´s not interested in mating
>Does the area they come from have any seasonality? Maybe some change in temperature or humidity would induce mating.
Where this species was found, not really
But it may be too cold right now, I´ll watch her closely for premolt signs and may try it again with higher Temperatures
really strange..never had that happen before.. well, at least they´ll live a few more years, so really no need to rush
>>2441722
>I have amblypygi and those two both look like juvenile females
They have not reached their full size yet, but they are no where near juvenile
Male is on the right
>>2441757
Well, it's supposed to get really fucking hot for 2 or 3 days next week, so maybe that's your chance.
Really hope you manage to breed these, they are amazing animals. The hobby needs more amblypygids, especially ones that aren't wild caught.
My Indian Flower Mantis. Hungry little bugger; once saw her grab 3 fruit flies at the same time.
She's basically living in the short deli tub with cloth top she arrived in; is that OK or could I do better? I have a larger container prepared but it seemed like waaay to much space for her size.
1/2
Can anyone ID this little guy for me? Found him out near my bushes. His back was a little shiney too, but sadly I was rushing and didn't have the time to take any good photos.
>came back later and i couldn't find him
I'm over in Nevada, pretty much a dry, desert climate.
>>2441948
2/2
>>2441950
FATboj
>>2441948
junebug. clumsy, dumb little fucks. i love em
Turns out the H. spinifer I bought was female and gravid. Now that she's laid babies, sbould I re-add a water dish and feed her? She ate very recently, so i'm more concerned with feeding the babies.
Sorry for the shitty picture.
>>2442027
The babies won't eat for a good long while anyay. They only start eating after molting one more time and leaving their mother iirc. give the mom her water dish back and don't worry about it, everything is fine.
Also congrats!
New millipede communal.
>>2442398
Waiting for 2 AGB's and a Spirodtreptus to finish molting.
>>2442405
The hide is in a soap bath right now because it was quite dirty.
>>2442415
If my other pedes are in a small chamber underground but still moving, is it safe to extract them or are they pre-molt?
>>2442412
Aw they look so dang cute. Wishing you the best man! Its not often I see anyone caring for the little guys.
>>2442408
Are figeater beetles safe around kids? A few of my neighbor's kids like playing with the pill bugs and beetles in my area.... And a quick google search of them showed they seem pretty harmless to my plants.
It also looks almost exactly like the beetle i saw. Tysm!
>>2442497
>Are figeater beetles safe around kids?
100% harmless
Can we talk about beetles? Love them. Very fascinated by them right now and trying to get to grips with some families. I'm particularly interested in the ecology of decomposition and I might do something related to the Silphidae for my UK bachelor's degree dissertation when the time comes.
In fact, can we get some appreciate for the lesser known things that run the world? Dung beetles, flesh flies, carrion beetles, all the little ants... Trillions of individual insects that perform vital ecosystem processes and help the functioning of the earth as a whole. Just think, there are more species of beetle than there are plants on the earth. Fascinating.
Wtf is this? Is it poisonous
>>2442529
If you want to talk about the destruents that actually run the world that aren't bacteria you have to talk about Collembola, Nematodes and fungi. Just the sheer numbers are overwhelming. Hundreds of thousands if not millions in a single cubic meter of soil.
>>2442537
I don't know of any poisonous spiders, so you can probably eat is safely.
Kill it before you eat it though, it might bite you and the venom could cause swelling in the throat. People have died that way.
>>2442546
I don't want to eat it I was just curious do you have any idea what it is?
>>2442543
This is true. I wonder if people realise that most plants utilise mycorrhizae. So much going on underground, a vast network of signals, decay, chemical warfare, nutrient cycling and so forth.
>>2442547
I know you don't want to eat it, I was just poking fun at you calling it poisonous. Many people make that mistake.
Poisonous = some part of the animal contains harmful substances that are supposed to protect it from predators
Venomous = animal has some sort of substance that it actively injects, either to hunt or defend itself
Spiders are venomous, they can bite to inject their venom, but they are NOT poisonous (which only matters if you want to eat the spider).
And I can't say exactly what it is without you giving me a location, but it's definitely an orb-weaver spider and the body shape looks like a Nephila. Also it's definitely female.
>>2442553
I'm in Florida if that helps maybe golden silk orb weaver?
>>2442554
Yes that helps.
In that case there is only one option, Nephila clavipes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nephila_clavipes
Completely harmless and builds very cool nets that catch pests like yellowjackets. I would definitely let it be.
Actually, you can relocate it to somewhere more useful. As long as it finds a good "frame" to build the net in it will stay there.
>>2442549
I saw this presentation on youtube some time ago that had some botanists looking at the mycorrhizae of coniferous trees way up north, in Finland or something. They found one that was toppled from a storm and had the roots sticking out and the mycorrhizae were literally almost a foot thick around the roots. Absolutely incredible.
The fungi probably outweighed the tress in that forest.
I'm trying to find it again but no luck so far.
>>2442405
>So they dont do any harm to my plants or anything, yeah
The grubs do drain roots but nothing worth concern. Minimal damage
>>2442553
How can you tell it's a female?
>>2441113
Why do bedbugs exist? What do they contribute to the natural world?
>>2442619
Because the males are tiny and brown
>>2442622
Why should they contribute anything?
They do the same thing every living thing does, trying to survive and reproduce.
>>2442622
Same could be said about you.
Anyone know anything about breeding / rearing
Nephila plumipes? I'm hoping to work with a professor who has been trying to breed them but can't get them to reach maturity. Apparently they're just not reaching the fifth instar.
>>2442830
Tried once, but was unsuccessful.
Post an update with whatever you end of learning?
>>2442622
Survival isn't about contributing anything. It's about being able to propagate your genes in the most efficient manner that your inherited genes allow you. You're indirectly assigning morality to insects, which is absurd.
>>2442867
Leave the guy alone, he clearly has no concept of evolution, basic biology and is steeped in a world of humanocentrism and utility for humans.
It seems like my florida ivory millipede has a bunch of feces accumulated near hid vent and can't close it. Is there anything I can do without damaging him?
Almost looks like he's constipated.
>>2442975
Forgot picture.
hi guys. when i woke up i saw this guy in front of me. please tell me who the fuck is this im scary a little bit. he looks small and friendly but im not sure because i know nothing about this bitch
>>2443026
That's a cockroach nymph.
>>2442549
>most plants utilise mycorrhizae.
pretty much all plants utilise fungi
It's absolutely incredible, especially the communication aspect between different plants connected via fungi really fascinates me
>>2442830
is he keeping them in containers?
Because I found that Nephila often die when they are kept in boxes/terrariums, but thrive when they are in a corner of a room or something
Never had N. pulmipes tho, only N. fenestrata and N. inaurata
>>2443028
can he kill me
>>2443033
He has a ~5m AOE Lifedrain passive ability. I would vacate your house immediately.
>>2442859
Snib
>>2443035
no man ill fuck him up and then ill dance tecktonik on his grave
thank for the answer btw
>>2442859
That looks like cgi
Moved my floofspode yesterday. Looks so much better than the old enclosure.
>>2443074
O hai
what's the fluffiest tarantula?
Doesn't matter if arboreal/terrestrial or oldworld/newworld
I have quite a few species, but no really fluffy ones. That's why I decided to look for a REALLY fluffy spider. Any suggestions?
Also, does anyone kow when you can determine the sex of a L. violaceopes sling without examining the molt?
Because this little fucker always destroys his/her molt
>>2443096
I was told Avics are the floofiest. Unfortunately I don't have one yet and the last person I talked to offering one for a trade for some millipedes turned out to be a flaky piece of shit.
>>2443096
Avics are 95% fluff and only 5% spider.
>Also, does anyone kow when you can determine the sex of a L. violaceopes sling without examining the molt?
Pretty much whenever its big enough that you can look at it ventrally and say for sure if there is a spot between the first set of lungs or not. Mine has around 6cm leg span and I looked at its butt with a weak magnifying glass. I'm pretty sure it's a girl.
>>2443167
>>2443168
>Avics are 95% fluff and only 5% spider.
sounds nice
Which ones are the fluffiest tho?
I have A. sp. "Peru Purple', but they don't seem that fluffy
You two are showing pics of C. versicolor, I thought about getting this species before.
Anyone have any experiences with this spider? Are they fun to keep?
Hey guys, gimme a hand here. What the fuck kinda spider moved onto my porch furniture this morning? That web sac under it seems to be filled with babies.
>>2443488
My money's on Nursery Web Spider
I usually am the one doing the iding but anyone know this sling? Im thinking brown recluse. Found on my wall in Kentucky. This critter is teeny weeny, like maybe 2mm
>>2443590
Oh and i know it kinda looks yellow sac-like, but thats largely the flash its amber colored but blurry without flash, as seen here
>>2443592
I can tell you it's not a Loxosceles dling
They have much longer legs than this lil' fella
Brown recluse? Tried to get a better shot but he got up my wall too fast. I wonder if one of these fuckers killed my orb weaver spider that used to hang out next to my computer and catch mosquitoes.
Oh shit whatup.
>>2443820
location?
I wonder if I can feed B. lateralis to the Idolomantis. They annihilate any sort of fly I put in there. The lateralis are just as soft but there's a lot more substance to them.
Any ideas other mantis anon?
>>2444029
I would´t do it
if a species is specialized on flying insects, I ONLY feed flying insects to them.
You can try wax moths, if you want something meatier for them, my Gongylus love them, and pretty much every other species I have does too
Also, where the fuck do I get I. diabolica Nymphs from?
Nobody seems to have any
>>2444032
I thought about wax moths, but I can't get them locally. I think I'll order some online if you recommend them then. I'm just getting very tired of all these flies and they probably think the same, as far as they can think.
>Also, where the fuck do I get I. diabolica Nymphs from?
At this time of year, probably nowhere.
2, 3 years ago they were quite common but they have gotten rarer again. A lot of people that didn't know what they were doing probably bought some and some breeders always lose their stock with these, so there are less of them now. Same thing happened with Hymenopus like 10, 15 years ago.
>>2443873
I'm in Missouri.
Avic huriana is probably the fluffiest avic. It's kinda touchy for an avic though, lots of sudden movements and the occasional threat pose
>>2444081
diversipes is at least as fluffy, maybe more
no threat poses but a bit panicky and they stay a bit smaller
versicolor is probably the most fluff you can get for a very beginner friendly avic
There's a fuck ton of dragonflies in my backyard
I counted at least 14 a few minutes ago. Mostly common skimmers and darners.
Gonna try to post a video later
>>2443807
Thanks.
>>2441241
>when you're an ultimate gentleman but girls still wont mate with you
>>2442975
I highly recommend setting up a bioactive substrate with woodlice, springtails and earthworms.
I do this for my GALS' and haven't needed to clear up poop in months, only food scraps that aren't breaking down fast enough to stop food mites.
>>2443568
It might be harmless, but it's also god damned terrifying.
Found these guys mating/sleeping. So cool!! Huge yellow/brown moths that look like leaves at first glance. I wanted to get a better picture but didn't want to disturb them. What are they?
>>2444791
Also found this cool green moth!!
>>2444783
The more you learn about them (and if possible, interact with them), the less scared you'll be
So where does everyone here get their inverts? Any recommendations? I live in Louisville KY and was wondering where one might find all of these beauties.
Can you keep one of these in a terrarium
>>2444914
yes
>>2444914
yes, but they are not for beginners
>>2444824
I've been trying, man. I'm comfortable enough around tarantulas, especially after having a roommate with one as a pet, but it's a bitch of a phobia.
Considering I no longer throw my man-card out the window when I see a spider, I consider that progress.
>>2444914
What is that? A hymeR?
You absolutely can, but start with some sort of sphodromantis or whatever
>>2444981
Keep on trying. it's definitely doable
Happy pedes.
Anyone know what species this little dude is? I live far north and we don't usually get any spiders like this.
>>2445220
Got any location more specific than far north?
I wanna say its some species of Latrodectus, but I cannot be sure
>>2445225
New Brunswick, Canada
Are there any papers you guys know that are about identifying inventories of invertebrates?
Im doing soil sampling and identifying/counting all inverts in there. Looking for papers to learn from, seeing what methods they use.
>>2445369
www.google.com
Sorry it had to be this way, friend.
>>2445381
I use web of science and other journal searches and I have done a lot of searching. I am asking in case anyone has a specific example that I have not seen before. You aren't clever.
>>2445385
But I was trying really hard. Darn, foiled again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYBamOW7YFc
Can we talk about this video? It makes me squirm in my seat something righteous, but it's just so morbidly interesting. Also very, very nauseating.
This Canadian guy is no biologist, but the way he rubs those fucking leaves with those growths and the way he just idly kills all those parasites--it's just so clinical.
It's an amazing video in its own right. I might be exaggerating a little.
>>2445458
Hey Haania guy, are you still here?
I have a few questions, mine should arrive tomorrow. I don't know how this species behaves, so I wasn't sure how to set up the enclosure for them.
Do they prefer to climb? Are they really gound-oriented?
Do you have a pic of your enclosure?
Here's a pic of the box I made for them. Would you change anything?
>>2445960
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>>2445515
They like to sit on moss vertically in my box. Can post a pic tomorrow.
I'd put bark with moss on it on 3 of the 4 sides and then stack some more on for good measure. Just give them a lot of surface area of moss that they can sit on, facing downwards.
Dunno why this picture turned out so fucking blurry, but it's a large moth I found today. Yellow/brown coloration, almost thought it was a dead leaf at first. After a little research I think it's an Imperial Moth, but this one had it's wings folded down on its body, and pictures I've seen of Imperials have their wings straight. Anyone have any ideas? It was seen in southwest Missouri, at the Springfield Botanical Gardens.
>>2445996
It just became an imago. It takes a while for their wings to harden.
>>2445996
The picture is horrible but I'd guess it was still inflating and drying its wings.
Some rehousing photo ops
>>2446061
My first Aphonopelma!
A. anax
>>2446065
Rare opportunity
0.1 E. uatuman
>>2446066
Juvie hobby B. albopilosum
>>2446068
Shitty pic of my C. versicolor
>>2446066
Is the abdomen multicolored or is it just the light?
My tarantula's hide keeps having this white fluffly stuff form on the back of it. I don't think it's slik, and if it's mold, how do I get rid of it permanently?
>>2445969
thanks for the tips.
that's the stuff I wanted to hear!
>>2446112
pics?
>>2446096
Kind of just the light. The light is what makes the green really show, in this case the flash just highlights just a part of the abdomen
So...I might have accidentally doomed my nascent Tapinoma colony.
They'd moved out of their dirty tube in my outworld into a small crack in the grout, which while not ideal is still better for them. Well, I hadn't seen any movement whatsoever in almost two weeks - no nanitics exploring or eating from the water/sugar water tubes I put in there, no escape attempts, etc. So I checked their little hole and noticed a largish piece of rock had rolled over on the opening of their nest. It was the perfect size to seal it, so I thought Oh Shit, They're Stuck! So I went to remove the rock, aaaand I think I wedged it in completely.
Out of ideas of how to remove it, since I can't dig out around it because the grout is so stiff, and I dont want to shake the outworld, because that'll stress the queen and she'll start eating and murdering all her kids like some six-legged andrea yates.
tl;dr HELP HOW DO I SAVE MY ANTS
Found this little dude/dudette on Ft. Lauderdale Beach, anyone know what they are? I have more pictures if y'all need it.
>>2446305
Sand flea
>>2446310
Thanks anon
who is this boi? found him on my hand. not good with buge identification but im in southern missouri if that helps
>>2446531
Looks like a planthopper.
>>2446531
Froghopper.
Their nymphal stage is sometimes as a spittlebug
what humidity is ok for heterometrus petersi?
I'll be getting a G. Pulchra or a B. Smithi as my first Tarantula pretty soon and I'm very excited, but I realised I might be moving to the US from Ireland within the next year for an internship, whether I stay on in America long term depends on how that goes.
It got me thinking, would it be possible to take the spider with me, would I run into trouble bringing it over with customs? Would it be better to leave it at home/give it to someone or wait a few years entirely to get one? If I stay on long term I'll definitely be bringing my dog over but I'm not familiar with how the transit process differs with inverts, particularly over such large distances.
I realised I added too much water to my coco brick and it's turned into a slimy mess, what do?
>>2446271
Turn the outworld on its side so the ants are facing up and wet the grout around the crack slightly. Use a needle or something similar and slowly chip away at it. I've never done with the ants in there, but I have done this before to do touch ups on my outworlds.
R8 my wasp nest
Does anybody else like to keep shitloads of wasp nests around their house? I didn't do the thing where you hand feed them this year so they won't come and land on me a lot and I don't want to get super close to take proper macro shots but this is the biggest polistes nest I've seen in a while. it's right over my back door. I think p. annularis. There's two more nests near it but they are about a quarter of the size of this one.
>>2443820
It has five legs, it's obviously a starfish.
>>2446698
>>2446655
Leave it in open air for a day or two.
>>2446643
You can't bring it overseas.
>>2446698
>waspkeeping
wtf anon
>>2446752
Wasps are great to have around, they can turn a grown ass man hysterical and they hunt a lot of caterpillars I don't want around. Polistes are very docile. I'm not really "keeping" them, just kind of letting them live all over my house. They get used to you.
>>2446561
make sure the substrate is always moist (not wet) and you should be good (if you use a normal terrarium/Box, not an open top one
Also, make sure you use a substrate where it can build tunnels without them collapsing. And give it really deep substrate too
>>2446751
Yea I know, I couldn't set up a proper enclosure in time before my new t arrived, so right now it's staying in a temp enclosure without any substrate.
>>2446928
you can also press the exess water out with your hands
butt scratchies!
>>2446952
Is she eating stray bits of silk? What's happening here?
>>2446956
just cleaning her spinnerets probably
Are giant african land snails actually cool, or should I just look into smaller snails?
>>2446966
They actually are great, but you have to always keep their size in mind. They need a lot of space and food, and they produce a lot of poop. So you have to be on top of your maintenance and feeding.
Question, is pic related real or not? If so, what's its name? Google reverse search didn't answered my question.
>>2447010
Another pic.
>>2446868
is coconut fiber ok as substrate?
>>2447012
not really, it doesn´t hold burrows very well, unless you PACK it in there, and I mean absolutels PRESS it in the tank
I´d use something different, maybe coco fiber mixed with some clay-ish dirt
Just try different things, and see if you can yourself build burrows without them collapsing
Can anyone id this? Southern Ontario. Kind of red and yellow and orange stripes. It flew away before I could get a good colour shot . BIG like 20cm. And what's that tail thing?
>>2446928
Press out excess water with your hands, then put what you need in the oven spread out on a baking sheet.
>>2447070
some kind of ichneumon wasp
>>2446690
All right, thanks, I'll give it a shot. Hopefully she doesn't freak out too much.
>>2447077
Thanks
It's creepy. I hate it
>>2447070
Ichneumonid wasp.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ichneumonidae
The "tail" is the ovipositor that they use to lay eggs into grubs that live deep in rotting wood, that's why it is so long.
And it wasn't 20cm big lol, maybe 7 or 8 if you count the ovipositor.
>>2447086
Don't worry, it's harmless
>>2447088
It was longer than the galaxy s7 I used to measure
>>2447062
is it important also for young scorpios or only for adults?
>>2447103
both
>>2446752
Do people keep proper araneomorph spiders a lot? I'd think the fact most of them don't live very long would be a factor.
>>2447162
I keep a couple of species of jumping spiders, they live up to around 3 years at most but their character more than makes up for it. Very interactive spids, they like to chase mouse cursors and laser pointers and shit and the way they hunt is amazing. Sparassids are also very popular in the pet trade, and Deinopidae are worth looking into. House spiders can be pretty interesting to keep too.
>>2447217
that's cool. Supposedly this species (k.hibernalis) which is really common in the US, can live up 8-10 years (I couldn't find anything definite), which I didn't know until recently. I know a few sicarius species live a really long time but lol fuck that. They earned that name.
Can anyone ID this lil guy? I saw it chillin on one of the lights in my bathroom last night. You cant really see it in the pic, but he was super bright green, like m&m green. Southern California, never seen one of these before.
>>2447291
Lacewing, more specifically one of these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysopidae
How have you never seen one of these before though, they are extremely common.
>>2447259
I know a couple of people who own Sicarius species, personally don't understand why you would want to keep an animal that dangerous but each to their own. I think a lot of people in the invert hobby have this fixation on size & how dangerous their animals are, which explains why tarantulas are so much more popular despite true spiders being a lot more interesting (in my opinion) and explains why the same type of people also like keeping brown recluses, sand spiders, black widows and shit like that
>>2447306
To be fair it's pretty damn hilarious when they bury themselves but still, I don't want to keep something that the BEST thing that can happen if it bites you is you lose a limb.
Very excited, I had a hummingbird moth visit me today! It was obsessed with my Duranta tree.
I saw my first ever Hummingbird Moth two days ago at a 'tropical plants' store, buzzing around the Duranta trees they had for sale. So I bought one and put it on my back porch.
Today I come out and there's a hummingbird moth at it! It's crazy, I've never seen one in my life before and now I've seen two in one week. I took some slo-mo videos if anyone wants me to webm them.
>>2447449
webm
You almost can't tell this video is in slo-mo because his wings were beating so fast.
>>2447455
second video i took was too long so i cut it into two parts
1/2
>>2447466
>>2447455
>>2447449
Very cool. I even get them in upstate NY.
>>2447466
2/2
>>2447469
This one was in Oklahoma- I didn't think that they lived here. I actually bought the Duranta tree in Missouri while I was driving down here. I can't pass up a good deal on some plants, even while on a road trip.
What species?
>>2447677
Looks like an atlas moth. Poor thing looks like someone took a swipe at it
Location?
>>2447677
Hyalophora sp.
>>2447680
Italy
>>2447455
I can never get over these things, they are proof that hummingbirds are bugs. I don't think I have them here though (louisiana)
Anyone know what this is? I found it on my porch swing and I think it's dead. It's smaller than my fingernail for reference. I'm in southern Virginia. Really interesting pattern.
>>2447792
Son, That right there is doubtless some sort of Lactrodectus sp, It's a type of Widow.
>>2447792
>>2447799
Geometricus, to be exact. It's a brown widow
What kind of dog is this plz halp
>>2447810
Some male orbweaver.
>>2447677
>>2447695
It' Samia cynthia then
>>2447813
Thx u you are trulee /an/hero
Moved the Idolomantis to the big tanks now, I appear to have 5 females. Also funny how they decided to group up on the left despite being initially spread out by me.
>>2441113
So today I was eating a sandwich in a park and I noticed an ant and a wasp "fighting" for the crumbs. The weird thing is, whenever the wasp landed near the food, the one single tiny ant that was there charged it and the wasp flew away in terror. It happened at least 10 times I was there. The wasp was around 100 times the mass of that thing at least and it could have killed it effortlessly. What was it then? Are wasps instinctually wary of ants because others might show up?
First L6. I did not expect this, it's way too fast.
As you can see there is barely room for molting. I'll have to transfer them into the bigger enclosure tomorrow.
>>2448486
risk vs reward. crumbs, unless hey are made of meat, can't be fed to baby wasps and sugar water is much better for calories. Wasn't worth it to the wasp, was very worth it to the ant. I grow black eyed peas and they love the nectar. you see wasps, ants and flies all fighting. bees are totally uninterested
>>2448853
i wrote that out too fast and didn't add *sugar water is better for calories for that grown wasp. they don't feed sugar water to their baby sisters, who just want meat. especially raw caterpillar meat
>>2447455
What a beautiful little thing.
>>2446068
Floof
>>2448932
Lil LP
>>2441386
I M P R E S S I V E G I R T H
>>2448964
Indeed
Invert general? More like Araneae general. Overpopular things.
>>2449159
Spooders this thread, mantids the last. Things tend to ebb and flow
The female after her last molt
The male molted yesterday.. how am I going to keep the male from maturing long before the female does?
Will keeping him cooler and feeding him less work?
My appartment suddenly became infested with these fuckers, they dont do anything they just sit on the walls, all my windows has fly nets and Ive never seen any small ones/worms.......
They are about 5mm in size, anyone know what are they and where are they comming from?
ib4 bad picture quality, sorry I have an android
>>2449196
Looks like a drain fly
My B. Albiceps finally molted today after having an ass like a ripe black grape for over a month. Here he/she is eating a bit of the exuvium. Even pulled it out of the burrow like a civilized little spode
>>2443590
Nice to see another fellow Kentuckian
Figured this was the place to ask
Since yesterday, wasps have been visiting by bathroom window, and last night I found six-seven of them all huddled together on a piece of metal jutting from the wall. I've never seen so many in one place that wasn't a hive, and they don't seem to be building one. It's like they're just hanging out there. What gives? Also, do wasps have sexual dimorphism? Some of these wasps are noticeably larger than the others.
should i leave them in with the adults?
My only concern is feeding the littly nymphs
>>2449342
I take them out, for that exact reason.
Buckle up, you'll get new ones almost every day now. I must be up to 100+ nymphs now.
>>2448855
thanks, that kind of explains it I guess
Curious; what do you do with your dead inverts? Do you bury them, cremate them, dispose of them in the trash, leave native species in the garden for scavengers?
>>2449226
I too am a kyfag.
Does anyone here keep any Theraphosa sp.?
If so, would you recommend this Genus?
Also, every night, one of my P. regalis slings crawls up into one corner of it's enclosure and hangs out like this all night. In the morning, he goes back into his cork tube ob the other end of the tank. Man, some Tarantulas are pretty weird..
can i feed heterometrus petersi with animals i found outdoors in my garden?
>>2450262
NO. Never feed wild caught.
New to this board. Here's a beetle of took a picture of last summer
>>2442537
I think that's a banana spider
I once ran into ones web and had a giant spider on my face for about 3 seconds
Saw this last night about 3AM perched on the wall in the bedroom. No size reference in the photo, but it is about the size of a quarter. Not sure what kind of spider it is, but based on research, it looks like it could be a brown recluse. It has a pattern of black dots bespeckling it's abdomen and has an overall light tan coloration. Based on this WTB entry: https://www.whatsthatbug.com/2008/02/25/brown-recluse-2/ I would say it looks similar to that variation, but I do not see a violin shape marking, nor does it have dark brown legs. Also this chart: http://bugguide.net/node/view/33494 says it would be very unlikely to be a brown recluse as WA state is not commonly where they are. What is this spider?
>>2450458
>it looks like it could be a brown recluse.
If you're fucking blind maybe. That's a sac spider.
>>2450328
because of potential parasites?
>>2450554
Parasites and pesticides
>>2445220
looks like a comb footed spider
>>2445220
Enoplognatha sp.
>>2450140
>Man, some Tarantulas are pretty weird..
>>some
Nah, they're all goofballs.
>>2449772
Same way I dispose all other fallen heroes. Catapulting their disease ridden corpse over my enemy's castle walls.
Is there any invertebrate that you could argue has emotions?
>>2450632
Octopi, maybe
Ey boys. Just found some carpet beetle larve at the end of my bed. How bad are these dudes? I am considering just moving them outside, but if they are legit pests then I'm not sure if it's morally righteous to "pass them on" so to speak. I'd rather not kill them, but if that's the thing to do then that's the thing to do. Let me know, thanks.
>>2451071
Just put them outside if you're worried. I've had carpet beetles for years but they don't seem to do much damage. Some clothes in my closet have holes but that's it and I don't really care. They're super cute and love it when I find one.
>>2451096
Yeah? If they're harmless then I might not really mind. Will keep an eye on them for now; I don't want them to multiply at too fast a rate or something.
https://www.amazon.com/Marineland-ML90609-Portrait-Aquarium-5-Gallon/dp/B00O8SZTKQ
Could I keep a mantis in this? It's an unused aquarium I have sitting around. Or do they need a special cage.
>>2451102
Yeah, just swap out the lid for flyscreen so it can hold onto the top and get ventilation.
Friend wanted to know what kind of spide this is. What is it?
>>2451115
>>2451115
Araneus trifolium
>>2451149
Thanks
Just found out my GBB is male. I don't know whether to be said that he won't live more than a few years or happy that I won't have to endure the pain of losing him after over a decade of having him around.
>>2451245
Enjoi your boi
Can anyone ID this guy for me? I've only seen two so far, but one was in my home and my neighbor has a small garden... The one in my home was crawling on me... And man do their little hands pinch
1/2 (i have a third of his underneath)
Sorry for the bad photos guys.
>>2451380
Second image. Again, so sorry for the shit photo quality.
I'm in a hot, desert-like climate in the US west coast.
>>2451381
Specify further pls. West coast is a broad location
Found this guy living in my aquarium. How can I make sure he is having a good healthy time?
>>2451431
Beer and brats. Pool noodles are pretty fun. Maybe a diving board? It is a jumping spider after all.
>>2445960
Newshit here, I like this one. What type is it?
>>2452055
Theraphosa stirmi. Burgundy Goliath birdeater
>>2441113
Is butterfly mounting appropriate for a 30 year old man to be doing?
Not sure if I should hide my displays when family comes next month. They like Reptiles but I don't want to look gay and have an old lady hobby in front of my only surviving male family members
>>2452137
Your family sounds like a bunch of faggots if they'd judge you for a hobby like that.
>>2451427
Oops, sorry! I'm in Nevada.
>>2452137
I'm in my 40's. I have several mounted butterflies and moths around my house.
at your age you shouldn't care what other people think, particularly about your sexuality as extrapolated from your hobbies. You should however have an annoying gf that sits on your lap all the time and complains about you spending time with your male family members.
>>2450632
>>2450644
And cuttlefish.
Anyone know a place to get Phoneutria any of species I always wanted one for my true spider collection and I rarely see them even on arachnoboards
>>2452489
If you're in europe you could try spinnenfarm.com
He's the only one I know that has them regularly
Here's his price list: http://freepdfhosting.com/640a104684.pdf
Anyone able to identify this moth? I think its from the Notodontidae family. I realize that family consists of over 3,800 species but any guess would be awesome. Found at Capricorn Caves Rockhampton, Queensland, AU.
>>2452767
No im in the United States but thanks anyway.
What is the name of this here juicy boy? I think he's a fly because of the eyes and number of wings, but I can't find a positive ID under "Ontario black fly clear spot wing".
>>2452975
Bee fly, Xenox sp.
>>2452984
Thanks anon!
>they're parasites of carpenter bees
Fuck that shit.
>>2452989
You know what to do. Bake him alive
>>2453232
>what the hell is this thing?
>>2453232
cute
yours?
>>2453761
>Theraposa is the ugliest genus
they are just fat Hysterocrates without the grace
They are imprettive because of their size and behavior tho
Also, found this lil guy and is living taxi
>>2453763
>imprettive
think I had a small stroke there
*pretty impressive
Managed to snatch a photo of this humming bird moth before it flew away. Nature is weird.
>>2453758
No. Hoping to work my way up to one though
>>2453761
no u
Hello guys! Look at that big faggot i found while cleaning outside!
It's a wolf spider. Lycosidae family.
It's a common tarantula related here in the south of italy. This lad was ~6 cm diameter and aggressive AF
>>2453882
Looks more like a lass than a lad. Purdy gurl tho. Shame. it looks like she lost a leg
so wait is brachypelma smithi now brachypelma hamorii? wtf
>>2453975
If I understand this correctly the Ts that were sold as B. smithi turned out to be T. hamorii all along and true smithis were sold as B. annitha.
I wonder if this will ever be adapted or they are just gonna keep being called B. smithi. Most keepers will probably stay unaware of this.
>mfw I heard some weird plastic noise this morning at 5am and found my P. Irminia on top of my B. Albopilosum enclosure
>Airholes were apparently too big
>>2454001
how small is your irminia? Is it okay?
>>2454005
About 1.5 inches. Fine now but a little stressed after shipping and the escape it seems. Still ate a red runner nymph though
Caught this wolf spider in my house, idk what family, it's about the size of a US fifty cent coin legs outstretched, I'm from Northern Kentucky. About what size crickets should I feed him? Probably not gonna keep him long.
My B. albopilosum finally molted. I'm about 80% sure she is a she but she mangles the skin.
How do I stop my P. cancerides from tearing up the wax paper keeping the humidity in, then going in between the paper and the lid?
>>2441386
T H I C C
>>2442497
WHY DOES NOBODY HAVE MYGALOMORPHS I CANT FIND ANYTHING THATS NOT A SLING OR IN EUROPE I JUST WANT A NEW PET HOLE
New to spides but I found a qt Araneus diadematus/Cross spider and I'm pretty sure this is an immature female, right?
The epigyne is sort of there but looks like it's undeveloped.
>Look into my eyes.
RIP Spider
>>2454522
reported for CP
>>2454522
What camera?
>>2447217
Cute as fuck.
>>2441113
oly shit, thx for your thread, you save my mind.
I ahave a important question: this weekend, I go in the house of my girlfriend and I leave my sweety colony of butterfly alone. But, when I go back, the half of my butterfly died because of a spider, I am angry and (for has killing 15 butterfly of my colony) I can not leave him alive or in liberty.
So her is my question: what is the nicelly death (without suffer and crush) I can take to a spider or how I can jailing it ?
>>2455057
Nikkon D3100 with the 40mm f/2.8 G lens.
Quite fun to use, glad I got the lens
>>2441113
M-my Mantis just died after a year...
>>2455079
1 year for a mentis ? how is died ?
new thread
>>2455225
>>2452449
Wait how does an eye like this work ?