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old thread >>2373403
that's a pic of my wife you got there
>>2382746
That sounds like an odd relationship that may be illegal in some states, but I wish you two happiness
so what are the best tarantulas you can pickup and chill on your hand
>>2382757
Holding is not usually recommended, usually for the spider;s safety, but many new world genera are pretty chill.
Remember, they have their own individual personalities, so not every spider will be the same. Mine seems to alternate between having no time for my nonsense and being totally chill with me petting her legs/holding her.
Took my buddy to school today! We played an ESL game of "guess what's in my bag" by asking what color, shape, etc ithe object is.They guessed it when they heard him skittering around...
The boys were surprisingly more scared of him than the girls. They let him climb up their arms and everything.
(this is only his travel case, btw)
>>2382761
If you must play with them do it on the ground, they could be hurt if dropped.
Not ready to spend time with pets nowadays, but if was, I'd like a giant Scolopendra galapagoensis -- they're very sociable after they get used to you, and really massive and strong
>>2382789
Did you educate them about beetles a bit or was it just for fun?
>>2382757
Read this: https://tomsbigspiders.wordpress.com/2014/11/09/the-best-tarantula-species-for-beginners/
Also, like someone already said, it depends heavily on the individual tarantula, not only the species.
>>2382866
It was just for fun, but to be honest, they might know more than me. These are Japanese kids who grew up catching big beetles, I'm just some American who got into the hobby recently.
I'm hoping they'll give me some tips on catching beetles this summer...
>>2382789
He slept in my sleeve between classes
>>2382812
Holy shit, that's cute. Do you know if they're hard to care for? Or if they bite at all?
>>2382874
Not him but I don't know what's wrong with that centipede. That is not their normal behavior at all. I suspect it has been handled so much that it has learned to ignore it.
If you attempt this with one that has not been abused as much you will get bitten and probably go to the hospital.
>>2382606
Oh, that's the guy that keeps assasin bugs dry and solitary.
I kinda ignore him, but I see people are helping him now. Maybe I should as well.
Does anyone have a screencap of that mothguy thread
Any anons that have millipedes? I'm planning on starting with some a. monilicornis and then go from there. Anything else I should know other than the basics (i.e. rotten leaves and wood in substrate, house temps, keep slightly damp)? Finally, anyone have any experience with any sphaerotheriida? (I'm just curious I know they're very hard to keep alive)
>>2382876
Kek this. Centipedes are assholes.
>>2382876
Pretty much this Centipedes are fucking dicks
Look who just molted.
She's getting pretty big.
>>2382885
There is one anon here with some pretty advanced species.
Just wanted to let you know as this thread/board is pretty slow and if you're new to here you might think you won't get an answer, but I'm pretty sure you will, it will just take a while.
>>2382914
Woah. It doesn't even look real. A+ buggo
>>2382919
Heteropoda boiei, just fyi
no color trickery either, just a snapshot with a shitty phone cam
>>2382920
Just about everything in that genus is freaky
moar buggos with bode
hey,/an/.I really like rhinoceros beetles. I was wondering if any of you know where to get them, if they're legal and if they make good pets.Also, same for hercules beetles
>>2382977
country?
Are you guys ready for the newest meme spider?
http://www.spidersworld.eu/en/tarantulas/349-typhochlaena-seladonia-05cm.html?search_query=seladonia&results=1
Only 500 bucks a piece for a 5mm sling. What a steal!
>>2382914
>She
isn't that a male?
also, does anyone have experience with Pteriopelma sazimai?
Anyonr know what this is?
I have never had a T before but I am thinking of a G. pulchra for my first one, as I think it is stunningly beautiful, and it's apparently docile enough to be good for beginners. I don't plan to handle it much if at all but that'd be nice for enclosure cleaning for me.
What sort of tank should I get it? Would one of these be okay? https://jamiestarantulas.com/enclosures/large-adult-enclosures/
>>2383040
Looks like some sort of weta.
>>2383042
Jamie's usually has good stuff, if a tad expensive, so yeah, go for it dude.
>>2383038
No, it's a female. In Heteropoda even the females are this thin, it's not like with tarantulas.
>>2383038
>also, does anyone have experience with Pteriopelma sazimai?
I have 4 tiny slings, but I wouldn't count that as "experience".
>>2383042
Yes, the terrestrial one of course would be good for a G. pulchra. Very expensive but also very nice. Same thing can be said for the spider, a decently sized G. pulchra will set you back upwards of $200, if you can find one. And you can't put a small spider in such a big enclosure.
Do you really want to spend that much money if you're just thinking about getting into this hobby? There are plenty of other species that are also handleable, pretty and most importantly cheap and available.
Here, take a look: https://tomsbigspiders.wordpress.com/2014/11/09/the-best-tarantula-species-for-beginners/
>>2383046
Sierra mountains along mono pass by a creek. 12,000 foot elevation where there's crushed granite.
>>2382873
Where did you get that omfg
I was trying to buy one but could only find weird facebook pages with no buying info
>>2383056
I know, but I thought H. boiei females are brown?
>>2383060
>I have 4 tiny slings, but I wouldn't count that as "experience".
How would you rate their behavior?
And are they "pet holes" or do they vome out sometimes?
>>2383063
I think it's one of these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_cricket
>>2383066
>I thought H. boiei females are brown?
It varies. This one is about half grown also, so the differences might only be visible later.
>>2383072
Sorry mate but it doesn't have the tail like the picture and I found it in California. More like a nub-end abdomen.
>>2383077
The "tail" is the ovipositor and only females have that, the one you saw was a male.
Also their range extends into cali, and of course there are several closely related species that look very similar.
>>2383066
Well they sit outside their holes the entire night, every night. Sometimes during the day too, when I don't disturb them. Pretty brave for 1cm slings desu
>>2383064
I live in Japan, I bought him and a tiny female at a beetle shop in Tokyo. Sorry anon
>>2382873
thats fucking adorable
Just wanted to tell you guys how much I love this thread.
Why is this the most civil and helpful general on /an/?
>>2383226
Because it's a hobby that's just autistic enough to encourage people to discuss it since everyone IRL thinks bugs are gross, but at the same time it's too simple to attract rabid chimping shitflingers (i.e. /aq/).
>>2383226
I think keeping inverts requires a pretty calm and collected kind of person. One of my current roommates is loud and ADD as fuck, his presence often spooks my Ts and my snake. He's also pretty spooked about my Ts, and overreacts if he sees one of them, or really any spider in the house.
>>2383234
I think the shitposting in /aq/ has to do with how huge of an industry there is behind fish keeping, with all those products you can argue over and all the different "methods" that mostly came from companies trying to push their stuff. That's not really the case with inverts, and the general advice here is to stay away from expensive "necessary" products anyway.
I mean what are we supposed to argue over, what kind of $5 plastic box to buy? It's a lot more about the actual animals here than in the fish hobby, in my opinion.
>>2383234
>>2383237
rabid chimping shit finger here. You may remember me from such shitposting extravaganzas like outdoor cats must die, dinosaurs have feathers, and pitbulls dindu nuffins.
I'm lurking, learning about bugs and shit.
>>2383237
I think it's the other way around. If you get really into this hobby it makes you patient. If you already are like that it's an advantage of course, but patience is something almost everyone seems to lack, especially younger people.
>>2383241
>$5 plastic box
>he doesn't buy $1 plastic boxes from the Dollar Tree
>laughing orchid mantis.terrarium
>>2383247
>he doesn't use stackable, CLEAR plastic boxes because he's to cheap to spend 5 bucks
>probably can only see his animals as blurry blobs
>pic related
>>2383253
>Not using bulletproof reinforced glass boxes
>>2383257
>not using pure diamond 4th dimensional hypercube boxes that let you see back and forward in time
>>2383253
>implying Tarant Tower doesn't have the best view of downtown Bughatten
>>2383259
>Not using the metaphysical concept of each of your animals' existence as its own pocket universe to put them in
>>2383264
>implying plastic could ever approach the premium feel of glass
>>2383271
>implying it's going to feel good at all after my Ts plant thier turds all over the walls
They're clean in their own special way.
>>2383279
Well fuck, I got nothing. Spider poop is a pain in the ass to remove. Guess what I did for roughly 2 hours today.
Just don't let it dry out man, never ever. Fuck me.
does anyone know a good place to get larger snails in the US? i have some caepea nemoralis but id love to have bigger snails. its a shame achatinas are illegal.
pic related, its two of my snails, Aziraphale and Crowley (named after Good Omens).
>>2382984
'murica
I woke up to see my orchid mantis had a bad molt.
Pretty upset about it. It's still alive, and I hand fed it some fruit flies, but I'm not optimistic.
>>2383326
how long do these qties live?
>>2383042
>G. pulchra
Iv been looing for a THICCC short hair black T. This is gonna be my first for sure.
thoughts /an/? Also are there any non trapdoor Ts that have the same hairless thiccc look?
>>2383390
what could have caused this, anon? Do you even have a stick for it?
>>2383416
Well, first off, they are not Ts but they are still indeed Mygalomorphs.
Second, pretty much all of them rock the hairless thicc look. just prepare for a pet hole with some attitude.
>>2383419
It chose to molt in a tight space between the stick and the side of the habitat, and fell during the night.
I've raised 7 mantis now, and this is my first ever mismolt. I'm pretty broken up about it. This is after I tried to get him to hook to the stick, then the lid, but the end of his raptors are still the original molt, so he can really only lay there. So I took the stick out and put him back to let him dry.
Not sure what else to do.
>>2383428
Godspeed little mantis
>>2383370
Titan beetle shop has a few species. They're pretty pricey but the lady who breeds them is lovely.
>>2383226
I was just thinking the same thing, anon. This thread is always like a sanctuary.
>>2382977
Rhinos are great!
I've owned two species of rhino so far, and they're really interesting. The atlas beetle (left) had a nasty personality, but they can't bite so he'd just flail his thicc front limbs at you like a boxer. The Japanese rhino was a super qt and I'm excited to catch my own this year. Both had a lot of personality.
Out of all small pets I've had (mice/rats/fish/lizards/hamsters), beetles are my favorite for the fact that they just chill. They're slow, cling with their legs, and are sturdy, so they'll just sit with you while you watch TV and stuff. I have a rainbow stag on my shoulder right now. Good feel
>>2383428
Good luck. I don't know anything about insects that molt, would trying to nudge off the old stuff kill them?
>>2383549
They also love banans
>>2383423
I wish there were non trapdoor Ts that have the aesthetic
>>2383428
I'm sorry to hear that.
The only thing to do is to euthanize her. She can't eat. She can't walk. She won't be able to molt again to correct this.
It's harsh but that's the truth.
>>2383402
You're either going to spend 20 bucks when you get a sling and then wait 5 to 6 years until it grows up, or you'll look forever and then have to drop 200 on an adult female.
I'd tell you to get one of the black Pamphobeteus, like antinous or nigricolor but I really don't think those would make for a good first spider.
>>2383592
>200
More like three or four from what I've seen
>>2383658
You already got a shop suggested, so yes, they are legal.
Whether they make good pets is for you to decide. Adult Dynastinae often have a lifespans of less than 6 months while the grubs might take 1-2 years to develop. They look great and adults are easy to keep, but if you aren't into breeding them I'd say it's a bit of a waste/expensive.
If you want to test the waters with beetles I'd suggest you start with something cheap and a fast development cycle, like sun beetles (Pachnoda marginata peregrina). From hatch to beetle they'll take 4-5 months while adults live about 7 months. You should be able to get a whole group of them for a few bucks.
>>2383658
Also, stag beetles generally have longer lifespans. Apparently Dorcus species can reach up to 2 years as adults, but I don't know how likely that is.
>>2383592
What about this tho?
http://arachnoboards.com/threads/the-grammostola-pulchra-myth.189437/
>>2383687
See this post: http://arachnoboards.com/threads/the-grammostola-pulchra-myth.189437/#post-1727253
Just because one guy has one spider that grows fast doesn't mean the hundreds of other spiders that people have/had that grow slow are somehow irrelevant. There is no super secret spider cartel that artificially keeps the prices up either, new and expensive spiders always become affordable after a few years. G. pulchra slings are cheap but adults are expensive because they DO grow slow. The one ouf of 100 that grows faster won't change that.
Does anyone know why my assasing bugs keep rubbing their proboscis on their cork bark?
It's not for cleaing I think, they use their front legs for that.
>>2383704
So how long is a female's lifespan? All I know is that males only live for 5-6 years. That's odd considering I thought large arachnids would leave longer than that.
>>2383716
Males are nothing but reproductive machines, they get it on and die. 5 years is actually pretty long already.
We don't know how old females get in captivitiy, there are some that were caught as adults in the 80s/90s that are still going, so 40+ years is possible with good care.
>>2383709
Maybe they are searching for water?
Does it really matter where I get hissing cockroaches from? I'm hoping I can just go to the pet store and pick up a pair but I don't mind ordering some either.
>>2382885
>Any anons that have millipedes?
yes, I have a few species, including some "advanced" ones
>>2383736
Well it matters because they will most likely be overpriced at the pet store. Also when they come from a breeder you know they haven't been fed shit food for the past few weeks.
>>2383751
I know locally I can get them for $3 per. In regards to diet, most of the roaches I can find online are bred to be feeders which I assume gets the same diet as a feeder roach at a pet store.
>>2383766
The price is alright, but don't buy feeder roaches.
The standard hissers are used as feeders, but something like G. grandidieri or oblongonata are bred as pets.
Where you at? If you're in europe I can link some sites you can order from.
>>2383772
US sadly. I will just shop around for someone with a colony I suppose. I'm having trouble finding a difference between g. portentosa and onlongata online. Are portentosa usually feeders?
At this point I would prefer not to have them breed, so I was thinking about getting two or three males. I have read that they can be aggressive with eachother, but is it to an extent where they would injure themselves? I could settle for female but I would much prefer males for the louder hissing
>>2383401
only just saw this, sorry anon. they usually live up to around 3 years on average. ive had those two for about four years now though, so they seem to live a LOT longer in captivity.
anyone know what this critter is?
location: belgium, antwerp region
sorry in advance about the shitty picture
>>2383868
May bug, Melolontha melolontha
>>2383870
thanks for the info, had to put it outside quickly (mother was freaking out)
>>2383876
what a shame, they're cute
>>2383926
>when you nut but she keeps going
>>2383658
Sorry, missed that part. Rhinos and stags are generally not legal to be shipped to the US without a permit. Some breeders ship them to you under the table.
>>2383243
>outdoor cats must die, dinosaurs have feathers
You're not wrong, fuck outdoor cats
Not all dinosaurs had feathers but some species have been found to have had them
>>2383944
You should also mention that as long as they'e bred in the US (and aren't native species) it's totally fine, and most are.
r8 my new boys
I've had a GBB for about it seven month now that I got as a tiny spiderling, it's my first tarantula. So far I've only been feeding it different sizes of petstore cricket. I want to get some variety in its diet because tarantulas are adapted to eat pretty much anything that is the right size. What are the real risks associated with feeding it insects that I find outside? Also, should I fancy up its living quarters? All it has is dry substrate and a piece of cork board that it lives under, it seems to be doing just fine but I feel neglectful seeing some of the habitats out there.
>>2384107
crusty/hiss
>tfw your phone camera focuses on the wrong area and you can't properly share your first mantid's first threat posture
>>2384177
I wouldn't risk feeding it random stuff you find outside. Could get parasites or ingest pesticides. You could but it's just not worth it imo. Post a pic of your enclosure, GBB web like crazy so you should provide a few anchor points for it.
My first molt, unfortunately wasn't home to watch but pretty exciting anyways. She's doing awkward spider yoga now.
>>2384241
Damn. So close! I'm hoping to get my first mantis soon. Good luck with a more cooperative camera!
>>2384241
damn nice colors though
do you know the gender yet or is it too small for that?
>>2384177
You can get other feeders than crickets if you order online. Try roaches, locusts and mealworms
Also GBBs usually don't hide if they can properly web up their enclosure, but they need some anchor points for that.
This is what a GBB terrarium looks like if you give it time and space to web. You need nothing fancy, just a hide for the beginning, a few sticks to act as starting points for the web and if you want a plant use Pothos.
Show us what your enclosure looks like, shouldn't be too hard to make it fancy.
>>2384300
>Do you mean native US species?
Yes, I'm pretty sure most of them are protected. But for captive bred beetles like Chalcosoma or something there are not regulations afaik.
The third and last male has molted as well.
Now I just have to wait for the ladies to finally get ready.
>>2384107
Does anyone have an idea about how far along these are? G. Portentosa
What's a good beginner tarantula who is also pretty active? I know they don't move much but I would like one that at least doesn't hide or play pet rock most of the time.
>>2384540
How important is handling your T for you? The more "active" ones are usually the ones you can't/don't want to handle, with a few exceptions.
Euathlus sp. red/fire both like to walk around and explore a lot and are probably the most handleable tarantula.
GBBs make beautiful webs, sit outside all the time and are great eaters. They spin webs all the time so I guess that counts as more active. They are rather fast and can be a bit pissy though, so handling is not recommended.
And then something like Acanthoscurria or Pamphos are definitely active, but mostly at night (you can still watch with red LEDs) but those are definitely not something you want as a first tarantula.
>>2384534
Size?
Also if they're males I'd guess about half, maybe 2/3rds grown up. Their horns get much more prominent as they mature. With females it's hard to tell.
>>2384569
I would say around 1 inch, maybe less. I still am too squeamish to check their abdomens to sex them, but I would assume it's a sexed pair since I got them from a pet retailer. The darker one is slightly larger.
>>2384590
Oh, I assumed they were larger. They still have a lot more growing to do then, see pic.
>I got them from a pet retailer
I hope you didn't pay more than $5 for just two small portentosas. Also 2 is no fun, a group of 10 or so is usually recommended, just one male will stress out the female eventually and they are very social.
>>2384597
Yeah, I was a little suprised at how small they were. My plan was to get more, but a lot of the ones they had looked half dead or were just flat out dead. I have already ordered 4 more from an online place. I really don't want them to start breeding yet which is why I'm not getting a lot. I'm also keeping them at about 60F which is room temp for me. I've been told that room temp is fine and especially good if I don't want them to breed. Would you suggest investing in a heat pad anyway? I'm using a plastic container so I'm a little worried about putting something hot on the bottom but I'm not sure.
Here is a better pic for scale
I paid $10 which I knew was really high but I was impatient and in the area.
>>2384618
Yeah, they don't breed at room temp, but that is usually assumed to be around 70. 60 is too low, they will not grow and eventually die at these temps.
But don't get a heat pad, those are shit. If you need heat do it with a lamp. A cheap halogen desk lamp (10/20W) will do nicely. Don't get memed by a pet store again, they'll probably recommend some shitty overpriced "special" lamp.
>>2384638
addendum:
> but a lot of the ones they had looked half dead or were just flat out dead
Please don't buy animals at pet stores, especially inverts. Pet stores do not give a single fuck about them and should not get your money. Breeders have much better quality animals and are cheaper as well.
It's a complete mystery to me why pet stores still exist. Their entire business model relies on lies, overpricing and animal abuse.
>>2384644
I certainly have learned my lesson about buying from chains. It's really hard to find a breeder in my area, and i don't relish the idea of ordering online. >>2384638
This is fantastic advice because I was looking at heatpads and "speciality" heat lamps and they were kinda pricy
Thank you for all the advice already
>>2384563
I don't really care to handle the T. I would prefer observing them, only handling if necessary or maybe every once in awhile when cleaning the cage.
>>2384656
Brachypelma's are almost always out in the open unless they're close to molting. My B. smithi especially gets active during the warmer months of the year, climbing and digging around most of the day.
>>2384653
Ordering inverts is usually fine, it's how you normally do it nowadays too, if you don't have an expo near you or don't want to wait for the next one. I'd wager most people here got theirs from an online store.
>This is fantastic advice because I was looking at heatpads and "speciality" heat lamps and they were kinda pricy
Like I said, stay the fuck away from (chain) pet stores.
Something like: https://www.amazon.com/Xtricity-Telescopic-Adjustment-Alternative-Protective/dp/B06XDFZCYN
should be fine. You can probably find something even cheaper, like one of these clamp on lamps. Just make sure to order a few extra bulbs and a (digital) timer. Then you only need to put a thermometer in there and adjust the height of the lamp until you get about 70F at ground level. You can take the thermometer out again after that. And you could always lower the lamp for higher temps if you want them to breed.
>>2384686
Sorry, I'm a little confused about the last part. What exactly do I need a timer for?
>>2384656
A GBB is great to observe imo, I already said why. Can't really handle it though, for cleaning and such you usually maneuver it into a cup.
Sounds like you want a Euathlus though, they're active, always out in the open, cute and pretty smol.
Make sure to get a subadult/adult though, they grow super slow.
>>2384680
Brachypelmas are infamous for long fasts though, can kinda stree a beginner out if you spider just decides to stop eating for 5 months.
>>2384689
Well I assume you're lazy and don't want to turn the lamp on and off every day. And I'm pretty sure you're not gonna get up at 8AM every weekend to turn that lamp on.
>>2384692
Still confused, is the lamp only supposed to be on for a short period of time? Or is it during the entire night it should be on?
>>2384695
During the day m8, 10 to 12 hours. Why would you give them heat and light at night? We're trying to emulate a natural source of heat here (as in, the sun). I don't know where you live but where I'm at it usually gets dark at night.
>>2384699
Duh, obviously. My line of thought was that it was to keep them at a decent temp because nights get pretty cold here and I live below ground
>>2384703
Nah, 60 at night should be fine. 60 all the time would be too low, but colder during the night should be no problem.
What you can do is put a few big flat rocks below where the lamp is pointing, those will heat up during the day and stay warm at night.
>>2384707
Ok nice, that does make sense. Thanks again for the advice
>>2383749
My apartment stays in the mid to low 70's in the summer and may go down to the mid 60's in the winter; is this safe for most species?
>>2384876
There's also Aphonopelma johnnycashi
>>2383834
wow, one day after talking about how long they've lived and one of them died today. :( RIP Aziraphale.
>people keeping spiders, literally the most basic nightmare creature.
>give food and homes to these monsters.
You are braver anons then I. I'm generally not afraid of anything as far as creatures go, but spiders just ruin me. I lose my shit when I encounter them.
>>2384300
What's wrong with catfucking?
I'm interested in tarantulas. I'm pretty arachnophobic, but I actually like spiders a lot when I'm not paralyzed with fear. Their Care doesn't seem too difficult, but they don't seem to really DO anything. I'm a fishkeeper, so my standards for an exciting pet aren't very high, but the tarantulas i've seen just loaf around doing nothing. Surely, a predator can't make a living just sitting around, so what's the deal? Are there any species that actually like to crawl around and do stuff?
>>2383390
It's been three days.
When I found it, I thought for sure it was dead. Then, after seeing it move just a bit, I set it aside in a safe spot with some humidity and went to work. Fully expecting it to be dead once I got home from work.
Surprisingly, he was still alive when I got home. Then I spent the rest of the night cutting away its old skin, and hand feeding it fruit flies and honey.
Now it's day three, almost four, and he looks absolutely miserable, but he's alive and kicking. Do I just keep going? How can I help it molt when it comes?
>>2384393
Suspected male but I don't know how many of the tiny segments leading to the cersi I should count.
>>2382746
you wife has a pretty nice butt
but what do you think of my wife's ass?
>>2385096
>Surely, a predator can't make a living just sitting around
That's one of the most successful predatory strategies. Sitting around doing absolute fuckall and then completely blindsiding whatever walks by.
>>2384241
That abdomen looks so skinny.
>>2385134
Like those creepy fucking worms at the bottom of the ocean.
>>2384968
I'm sorry anon. Nice taste in names, though. Is the other one Crowley?
>>2385057
You wouldn't believe the amount of people that got into tarantulas to get over their fear of spiders. I personally know 2. It actually works too, though mostly for tarantula shaped spiders...
>>2385096
>Surely, a predator can't make a living just sitting around, so what's the deal?
I reckon the majority of predators on this planet do exactly that. You have to keep in mind that vertebrates are in the minority, and even among them there are more ambush predators than active hunters. I mean think of all the fish that people don't keep precisely because they don't swim around all day.
>>2385247
>>2385134
That's a good point. But are there any more active species? Ones that might even enjoy a trip out of the cage now and then?
Also, can vouch for the arachnophobia thing. Holding a tarantula helped me realize that they're just another animal that probably really doesn't want to fuck with you any more than a cockroach or a dragonfly. Still have some bad blood with the speedy ass harvestman spiders who get all up in my shit, but otherwise i'm fine with them and i'll usually go out of my way to release spiders outside instead of smashing them.
>>2385290
>But are there any more active species?
Yes, definitely. The ones that actually just sit in the same spot for days are in the minority. The problem is you usually don't see that activity as they are nocturnal. One anon here has red LEDs over his terrariums, they can't see red light so that allows you to watch them do their stuff at night.
There are a few that are also active during the day though.
Euathlus sp. red for example is pretty active and beginner friendly. GBBs are also active and lay down webs everywhere, but are slightly less of a beginner tarantula. Some Avicularias are quite active and somewhat beginner friendly.
Pokies can be quite active at night, same for Acanthoscurria and Pamphos but those are definitely not for beginners.
>Ones that might even enjoy a trip out of the cage now and then?
Not really, closest might be Euathlus sp. red, those generally don't see to give a fuck. You have to realize that tarantulas are sedentary. They search for a spot to build their web/burrow or find a hide and then generally stay there. Only exception are mature males, but those move around to find a partner and have rather short life spans. You can still take certain species out and handle them but no tarantula enjoys that, they only tolerate it.
>Still have some bad blood with the speedy ass harvestman spiders who get all up in my shit
Same. They freak me out. But for me as soon as a spider is big and fuzzy enough it's suddenly cute instead of scary.
>>2385298
I forgot my picture.
I mean look at this cute fuzzy spoode
>>2383549
Hey pops, how does bug incest work? Would it be bad to have beetles breed within themselves, or would you have to keep introducing new ones to the mix
>>2385300
>>2385298
I can always tell whether or not mine's in the mood for my nonsense.
If she's in the hide, that's her private time. I am not to intrude on her in any way, lest she freak out, skitter around, and in one case, flick hairs at me (I was trying to get a roach she hadn't eaten after two days out of her enclosure, but she didn't like the tweezers coming into her hide).
If she's out, she doesn't mind my presence at all. I can clear out uneaten food (I still have to get around to getting her other types of food she might like better), pet her legs, and even hold her on what few occasions I've attempted it. When she is out, she tends to be very exploratory and curious, or at least with as much curiosity as only 600,000 neurons can muster. Bright colorful things seem to get her attention most, which explains why she hangs out by her fake plants a lot when she's not in her hide, and on my orange sweater when I'm holding her.
>>2385329
It often surprises people that don't keep inverts just how much personality and character even these "simple" animals have. But if you get a tarantula or some other invert you definitely notice that they all have a personality. And it really is a personality, two spiders of the same specie, from the same eggsack, kept in the same condition can have totally different temperaments, they can like and dislike certain things and they even have mood swings.
It probably sounds totally crazy to someone that has never had a tarantual, but even a spider can have a bad day sometimes.
>>2364183
Update: My stepbrothers tarantula indeed died from this. Do not throw molting spiders out in the cold.
>>2385347
Can't say I'm surprised, but this is still scowl inducing.
I get you love your family, so I won't tell you to do anything edgy, but ffs, slap him and hand him a copy of the Tarantula owner's guide before the poor fool holds another dying pet.
>>2385347
Tell your stepbrother to properly inform himself before he gets a pet next time.
Also tell him to go fuck himself.
>>2385248
It's a bug not an AIDs kid. It wants to molt, why not let it?
beetleborgs, i have a question
If there was a big enough cage and enough beetles to start, would they maintain a population assuming all the needs were met?
>>2385411
there are around 350k species of beetle described so far, you're gonna have to specify what you mean
>>2385414
sorry, i'm retarded
I'm interested in some sort of rhino beetle, but for the hypothetical let's say an atlas beetle
>>2385415
Sure, it's possible to raise the larva in the same enclosure as the adults.
There are a few problems though: Multiple adult males will fight and kill each other, especially with atlas beetles, they're aggressive as fuck.
Digging females might damage already developing larva. And beetle larva generally become bigger beetles if reared alone, without food competition.
Also there will be significant downtime between adult beetle generations, the parents die long before their offspring becomes adult, so most of the time it will just be a big box of dirt.
Other beetles are much better suited for this colony approach, something like Chlorocala africana or Pachnoda marginata for example. They do well in groups, don't fight as much and their development time is much shorter
>>2385417
thanks for the info, all i've had is a rose hair and beetles are a very appealing little creature. I'd really like a self sustaining population when it comes to beetles, so I need to find a good kind for that
>>2385419
They're great but if you're going for the colony approach stick to the smaller species of Cetoniinae
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flower_chafer).
Those work well in groups. All the big ones are rather aggresive, need a lot more attention as larva (and usually separation too) and have very long generation times so you'd just be staring at a tub full of dirt for potentially 2+ years.
The ones you should look into are
Chlorocala, Pachnoda, Stephanorrhina, Dicronorhina (maybe), Coelorrhina, Eudicella and Tmesorrhina.
Just put those into google images, find one you like, find out which species from that genus it is and see if people successfully keep them in large groups.
>>2385422
I'm liking the Stephanorrhina a lot, i appreciate the advice my dude
>>2385429
Good choice, I like them too. They're cheap as well. 10 or so grubs (you can never tell how old adult beetles are) should get a colony started pretty well. A 30x30 cm terrarium or box should get good for a group of 10. Their males are also some of the least aggressive but they don't breed that fast.
http://www.pachnoda.eu/index_dateien/Stephanorrhina%20guttata_5_english.html
>>2385417
Is it the lighting that's making them appear that way or do they always have those bright, random and assymetrical spots on them? They look like trippy.
Also my Rosie has been standing on the far side of his/her cage for a few days... usually he/she is ALWAYS within the log (it looooves that thing). I can't remember the last time it molted but I'll attach a pic. I know they're eight-legged enigmas but might as well get a 2nd opinion.
>>2385503
It's the light. They are uniformly purple.The bright blue only appears when you shine a strong light on them.
It's pretty trippy, yeah.
>>2385503
m8, my GBB sling has decided that it is now arboreal and has spend the last two weeks building a net on a branch
Unless I see some obvious signs of discomfort I just don't question these things anymore
Don't mind me, just posting THE cutest caterpillar
>>2385523
incorrect
>>2385523
I disagree.
>>2385119
just kill the fucking thing
It will never moult successfully!
It seems my pet hole is finally starting to get a bit more confident, yay.
I was a bit worried, but I think she will eventually live up to her species reputation, judging by how fast any sort of food disappears in there.
>>2385547
>A. geniculata
Noice. She reached giant status yet?
>>2385550
Nah, she smol. 3.5" leg span maybe.
I know her mom though, she's fucking HUGE. Sat right on the front glass of her enclosure when I went to get this cutie.
>>2385553
>3.5" leg span
Wow. Literally mine, though unlike yours, she most likely will never hit 8 or 9. Probably six at most, given her species.
>>2385554
Well, unlike you I can't really handle this spider though. Or rather, I'm not gonny try. webm related
>>2385564
Woah
Is that her or her mom?
>>2385573
Neither, but that's the usual demeanor of the adults.
It's from this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-nJH-1ojZ4
Great tarantula channel btw, I like the guy.
Any other beekeepers in here? I keep removing hives for people and I'm up to ten colonies now, no idea what I'm going to do with them except sell honey at a farmers market or something.
>>2385636
Im getting a new nuc tomorrow. My two didn't survive the winter. How do people know to call you?
>>2385655
Half of my family is pretty entrenched in a small rural community, so if anybody knows of bees in the area, I hear about it.
>>2385636
You're doing good work, Anon. I'm proud of you. May your honey be ever sweet and beeswax be plentiful.
>>2385636
>no idea what I'm going to do with them
Do you have any farmers in your area, preferably ones going for ecological farming? You can offer to rent out your colonies for fertilization of their plants.
>>2385668
Ah nice. I live in meth country. People kill anything that isnt an immediate relative on sight, bee swarms and lost puppies included.
>>2385677
Oh they would if I charged anything for it, believe me. Several had been killed with hornet spray before only for new roaches bees to move into the old space.
>>2385671
Nah, it's a shithole, no one grows anything that needs pollinators and there certainly isn't anyone farming with nature in mind.
Is this enough substrate for g. portentosa? I have 2 right now and 4 coming Monday. Recently they started burrowing but not enough to cover them entirely.
>>2385770
As long as they have some sort of hide they don't even really use the substrate, you should provide one.
>>2385773
>>2385775
This is what I currently have in there.
They seem to like the skull and tube a lot
Food is in a lizard water dish and water is a bit of wet sponge in a bottle cap
Do any anons know of a very aggressive invertebrate? I want to start a fight club, but in the US it's illegal to kill any animals with a spine w/o cause.
I thought it would be easiest to just create a betta fighting ring at the local middle school and make bank running the fights and supplying the animals, but obviously bettas have a spine.
It'd need to be something I could breed at home so I could have a supply of them, and something very aggressive and good for fighting. Preferably something that used non-poison methods of attacking, so not every fight is fatal. The fights will just end when one invertebrate backs down.
>>2385775
Hissers can climb, they don't fall.
>>2385781
Should be fine. And well, they use anything they can for cover. You can switch out the tube with some egg carton if you don't mind the looks, that provides a lot more surface area for them to hide under.
Also you can take out that sponge, they ain't gonna drown. Add a stick for them to climb out if you wanna be extra safe, but roaches don't drown. Only flies and crickets are stupid enough to drown in water bowls.
Oh and I hope that paper on top is just for decoration, and not part of the actual lid, because they're gonna chew through that in no time.
>>2385782
weak attempt, try again
>>2385784
Many good ideas were laughed at in their time
Shampoo, the light bulb.
One day, when I'm professor Oak to all the middle school "pokemon" trainers who are battling each other, you won't be laughing.
>>2385783
It's part of the exterior lid. It was the best solution I could think of to get both ventilation and light. It's just like a Tupperware container
>>2385788
I'll be laughing when they get you for illegal gambling.
>>2385790
Shit, good point. How do I register w/ the government as a legit operation? Should I file as a horse racing game? Do you think I could claim the expenses on my taxes?
>>2385789
So is there still a real lid under that or is it only the paper?
And you should be able to get a bigger, clear plastic boxwith a lid for really cheap at any DIY or other big store. Just gotta drill a few holes in for ventilation.
>>2385793
It's a plastic lid I cut a square into and then sewed 4 screen door patches together and duct taped the whole thing together. Obviously not the most elegant but it's what I had on hand.
I initially had holes drilled in this lid, but someone earlier in the thread reccomeneded a constant light source so I figured the makeshift screen covered both bases
>>2385802
To clarify, the light is for heat since I live in a basement and it gets cold at night
>>2385802
Oh, right. Yes a screen works better if you have a light above, otherwise you're just heating up the lid.
Should really be one patch though, hotglued into place. That tape isn't gonna hold up to the strength of an adult hisser.
>>2385537
Well, that's defeatist.
>>2385417
Those beetles are fucking A E S T H E T I C. What are these Vaporbugs?
>>2385832
How do you reckon a mantis that literally can't move is even supposed to initiate another molt? That is, if it magically survives several weeks being completely crippled.
>>2385837
Chlorocala africana oertzeni, old name Chlorocala africana oertzeni.
>he doesn't know how A E S T H E T I C bugs can get
These fuckers aren't even the best in their own subfamily, they have nothing on Tmesorrhina or Ischiopsopha. And don't even get me started on Chrysina or Buprestidae like Cyphogastra.
>>2385845
I really fucked that up.
Smaragdesthes is the new name, Chlorocala was the old one
>>2385851
Some species of Dorcus, probably Dorcus titanus, but it's hard to tell exactly.
>>2385841
this
it will never survive. 0% Chance that it will moult successfully, just freeze it
>>2382789
Where did you get him?
Got this little bugger today since it was ultra cheap
and I love this species but it was too god to not pick up
But this is the first sling I've ever bought so any tips and tricks?
>>2386432
Easy,feed it grubs and watch it grow,just like a plant
>>2385782
There has to be a type of crab that would be good for this. Beetle fighting is already a thing in japan, male stag and rhino beetles are naturally adapted to fight over mates.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NquYLDVOxrk
Pokemon was actually inspired by this.
There has to be a way to market the idea, I would spend money on it.
>>2386576
Not that original anon cares about animal welfare/suffering, but most beetle fighting isn't fatal or damaging, just stressful for the bugs at best.
My rainbow stag here charged at my much bigger dorcus alcides just 'cause the dorcus wanted to get past him on my shoulder.
>>2386595
Though who knows, some will just crawl on each other adorably.
>>2386595
Seriously where does /an/ get their larvae??
>>2386606
Japan based for me but Titan beetle shop is good
>>2386597
>>2386595
God damn, you are making me want to start breeding beetles again
i kinda miss it now
>>2386628
I'm blind and retarded, what is that ambly chewing on?
I'm terrified of (most) spiders. It's mostly the thin legs and the fast scurrying that I don't like
To get over my fear, I've been taking spiders I find in my home outside, and I think its time to go to the next step
Any recommendations for a spider or other invert that I can observe? A smaller tarantula would be better, but I really want to get over my fear of those legs
Tl;dr I don't like fast, thin legged spiders, but I want to get over my fear by keeping one on my shelf
>>2386632
well, it's a shitty pic to be honest
They are both grabbing the same Oxyhaloa deusta nymph
>>2386643
after i shoved a second roach between them, they each grabbed one and crawled away
Hey guys, can my fly hang out with your bugs? He's been acting strange the last couple of days.
>>2386684
That's a wasp smart guy.
>>2386642
I would still recommend going slow and building up towards it.
So start with a smaller and slower tarantula, build up towards something faster, then finally get a spider that is actually fast and has those thing legs that freak you out.
I'd suggest taking a look here for your first tarantula: https://tomsbigspiders.wordpress.com/2014/11/09/the-best-tarantula-species-for-beginners/
Any on that list will do. After you're comfortable with one of those (it will probably take a while) get something faster but still harmless, like Avicularia or Tapinauchenius. And once you can deal with those look into the genus Heteropoda.
Maybe get a Heteropoda davidbowie first, those are slower and more compact than the really fast and thin ones like H. lunula or H. boiei.
>>2386628
So do I. And anons idea of a nice colony of at least 10 or so cute flower beetles really got to me.
I think I know what I'm gonna try next, and what I use that last big box I have for. Small flower beetles can't get through fibreglass fly screen, right?
>>2386617
Are they willing to go through all the proper procedures to ship to the United States? I wouldn't mind going and getting permission from the USDA or something, but do you suppose they would go to the trouble?
>>2386757
I suppose they would, but it depends on how often they do it.
This shop I know ships internationally regularly: http://tutugamusi.ocnk.net/
But I don't see why you'd order them in Japan, I'm sure there are plenty of breeders in the US, and there have to be some shops, right? I mean we have lots in europe, I don't see why the US would be different.
>>2386725
They are P. marginemaculatus, from Baracoa, Cueva de Majana to be exact
I have them from a friend of mine who has different species of Amblypygids.
Are you the one who's looking for a D. diadema male?
Because I asked him, but he does not have a spare male right now.
>>2386770
There's next to nothing in the US, and the closest shop IRL is focused on just tarantulas and scorpions and is in another state.
Any Canadians here who have some of these really large beetles everyone is talking about? I want some but have no clue if we can get them here.
>tfw your new pet hole is getting more and more confident
On the one hand it's incredibly cute how shy she is, on the other hand I got this species precisely because I wanted something that is mean as fuck. Now she just has to get brave enough to come out during the day too.
Excuse the mess, would anyone be interested in a tour? It's tarantulas mostly
>>2387183
And please excuse the angle
>>2387183
Shoot, dude. What do you have?
>>2387184
0.1 E. murinus
>>2387185
You want like a list or should I just do em all
>>2387187
Try taking pics of em all and compiling it into one pic in paint/photoshop or whatever to save on posts
>>2387186
0.1 E. uatuman
>>2387190
Ya shit sorry I asked. I'm just gonna dump
0.0.1 C. versicolor
>>2387192
Cute lil 0.0.1 P. cambridgei abdomen
>>2387194
0.1 L. striatus.
She has a boy toy coming this week and I'm so excited
>>2387198
0.1 GBB. Paired her a little over a month ago...waiting and feeding
>>2387198
Very cute. Hope it goes well.
>>2387198
She mad thicc
boi's gotta be gay if he don't hit that
>>2387201
little baby C.darlingi. I'll post more tomorrow
Picked up 2 Tapinoma Sessile queens over the past few weeks - it's nuptial flight season pretty much all the time in CA, so it wasn't terribly hard. Hell the second one literally flew into my room and landed on my tower.
>>2387337
They're a nice species, but a little difficult to keep. Get the temp to 80-85° if you can and when they're ready for carbs, just use sugar water. They'll probably reject anything else. They prefer smaller insects for protein, such a flies and tiny spiders. Also, they're good climbers and fast as hell, so be prepared for escapees if your outworld isn't secured properly.
So my unmated H. Majuscula has been gravid for almost 2 months now and her abdomen is much bigger than when the photo was taken, when can I expect her first ooth?
2nd ooth, woo!
>>2387492
Is she searching for a spot to put it yet? If not it might be a while, they can delay it.
>>2387498
I don't know, she doesn't seem to move much in her enclosure and does pretty much fuck all.
>>2387502
Could be several more weeks then, she's holding out for the right guy. Well, any guy at all desu. It will be pretty obvious when she's ready because she'll move a lot more and leave the usual spots.
No plans to mate her?
oh boy, they can fly
Both B. mendicas molted last night. Female lost one leg, but otherwise she's fine. Now time to powerfeed them until they are ready to mate.
>>2387507
Stunningly beautiful. Do you plan on selling some future offspring?
>>2387504
Male got sick and died, all breeders are out of stock at the moment here in aus.
>>2387513
>Stunningly beautiful
And that's only the male. I can't wait for the females. They're already slightly bigger than the males now too, so the next molt should do it, judging by the images I can find.
>Do you plan on selling some future offspring?
Definitely. I don't know how high the demand is but the prices suggest I can count on these to basically finance the rest of my inverts.
I really don't get these prices btw, I know they lay few eggs, 10 to max 20 per ooth, but apart from the few adjustments that a bark mantis requires they've been very easy. Nothing like Idolomantis or anything else expensive.
Then again I probably shouldn't complain about that.
Beautiful B. mendica btw, shame about the leg. Hope it goes well with the mating. Shouldn't be too bad right? Most Empusidae are pretty chill.
>>2387507
that's cool as shit
>wake up
>see this
Sweetie, what in the world are you do-
>dat bald spot
OH OH, SPAGHETTI-O
How long do you think she's got till she strips, boys?
>>2387523
>Definitely. I don't know how high the demand is but the prices suggest I can count on these to basically finance the rest of my inverts.
Sounds great. If you ever have any available and shipping is a possibility I'd definitely order a bunch!
>I really don't get these prices btw, I know they lay few eggs, 10 to max 20 per ooth, but apart from the few adjustments that a bark mantis requires they've been very easy. Nothing like Idolomantis or anything else expensive.
I guess it's just the sheer rarity. If you consider early nymph deaths, keeping enough to keep your own breeding group going, etc. there are never that many for sale. I suppose the demand is definitely there among enthusiasts.
btw, are they really specialized on "walking" food like roaches and firebrats or are you feeding flies as well?
>Beautiful B. mendica btw, shame about the leg. Hope it goes well with the mating. Shouldn't be too bad right? Most Empusidae are pretty chill.
They are quite ravenous when it comes to feeding, but I don't expect much trouble. Maybe I'll put them into the big Rhombodera tank for the duration of the mating so the male got enough space to evade her after.
>>2387384
The temp is where I'm having a problem - I need to get some sort of heating pad or something, as while it gets fairly warm in my shack during the day, at night it's like 50-60ish. Do you think some sort of heating pad would work if I stuck it under the box the test tubes are in?
Also, in regards to the outworld, I was planning on fluon'ing the edges and meshing the roof, so it should be good to go, but we'll see.
>>2387537
>If you consider early nymph deaths
Well, I also got M. violaceus, at L1/2, 10 of them. Not a single one died, they're L5 now. Maybe I'm just lucky or maybe I'm doing something right. I guess I figured out a few things early on, there are definitely some quirks about keeping these.
I find it rather strange that there isn't a single actual care sheet for these on the internet, as far as I can tell.
>are they really specialized on "walking" food like roaches and firebrats or are you feeding flies as well?
They are. They completely ignore flies if there is any other food available. They will go for Drosophila occasionally, and maybe also flightless house flies but I'm not sure about that since, they probably just starved and that's why they're gone a few days after I put them in. I've never actually seen them eat a fly.
>>2387528
t-thanks Ian
>>2387531
Has the spun a little mattress yet? If not it could still be a while.
>>2382812
Holy hell why. They have venomous ice picks attached to their face.
>>2387550
No molt mattresses yet, no.
She's not totally gray under the bald spot either. What do you think it'll be, around three months or so before I see a mat?
Yo, other anon with a P. horrida colony.
I think one of my P. horrida got an accidental jab from another one while chasing food. Seems almost completely paralyzed.
Is he gonna recover?
>>2387643
strange..
I've never had that happen, but I guess it'll die
>>2387643
tfw i have not even known about this species yet i have been into terraristic for many years
in poland we have only platymeris bigguttatus and platymeris rhadamanthus, now i have the second species, years ago i had a 3 specimens of the first species and they had sex but did not reproduce :(
Hey guys, is Nitroglycerin toxic to insects? I want to feed it to ants and see if they can use it as viable energy source.
>>2387724
>It might not have been a sting actually, I havent seen any wounds. Its strange, just fell down and now can barely move.
even stranger
sounds like a hit from another assassin, but have you seen it drop or did you just find it on the ground?
Is breeding painted ladies easy in captivity in a home setting? I know there are butterfly farms but will they mate if they're just in a large flight cage? Like if I put a potted host plant in the cage?
>>2387729
Saw it drop just after throwing some food in. I really dont know what to make of this.
>>2387542
A heating pad with a timer or thermometer would probably do. Mine gives me about a 15° boost. Keep in mind that consistency and a heat gradient are critical for most ants species and plan accordingly.
>>2387802
I've planned to use one of the small formicarium from ants canada once they get to that stage - they have a small spot for inserting a heating stick, to give it just that temperature gradient. Just having problems with this part - the weather's been so weird lately, I didn't plan for this.
The queens seem fairly nonplussed by the whole situation - well, the first one. She just chills over her eggs, and gives me a death stare during the weekly checks. The second one might not be fertilized, as she just sorta smashes her face against the cotton at the end of the tube.
>>2387531
3 months
>live in a super open-air house in a rural area
>whenever I see a jumping spider in the house I leave it to go about its business, free pest control
>every other time I enter my bedroom there's a jumper in the corner munching on his/her catch of the day
>tonight there's a flying roach in my room and spiderbro is nowhere to be found.
Why do we abandon the ones we love?
>>2386775
Aw, well I guess I'll have to keep looking then.
The ladies have been adult for about a year now, I don't know how long they actually live.
Thanks for asking anyway.
Found all these little bugs hanging out on an Antelope Horn Milkweed at the Ladybird Johnson center outside Austin Texas
What are they?
>>2387724
>You can get the other species from Jörg Bernhardt, shipping should be no problem. Here: schaben-spinnen.de
expensive!
>>2388415
I haven't seen them cheaper anywhere, especially when you consider he actually sends more than 10 usually.
>>2388234
>adult for about a year now
"adult" is relative for whip spiders, D. diadema is able to reproduce at a body lenght of about 1.6cm i think, not sure tho, because I do not have this species
Generally, amblypygids are able to produce offspring sooner than most people think
But I guess youl'll have your females for at least 5 more years, maybe longer
Most whip spiders live really long, especially the slow growing ones
If he has a male available, I'll let you know as soon as possible he aaid he'll maybe have one this summer
Picked up a carabidae in the wild. Turns out it was a bombardier beetle, gave me quite a fright.
>>2388457
forgot to ask, what size are your females?
>>2388457
Interesting I didn't know that. I just assumed they were adult when they molted and the relative size of their pedipalp didn't increase, so I was sure they were female at that point.
>>2388460
Pretty much exactly 3 cm body length.
Also thanks for all your efforts. If I ever get in contact with your friend I hope I can get some other species as well. whip spiders are criminally underrated, there are so many great ones, but you only ever get Damon.
Got one more question: When (if) I ever get a male I want to put the 3 of them together permanently, I have the two females separate at the moment. How big of an enclosure would I need for that?
>>2388459
Did you actually feel anything or were you just surprised?
If you got it in the eye or nose it would probably be very painful, but I think anywhere else you wouldn't feel much of anything, so I think you can pick them up.
>>2388473
It started squeaking when I picked it up by pinching it between my thumb and forefinger, and then half a second later the beetle felt pretty hot. It left a stain on my fingers, but it was the startling realization of what I had picked up that made me drop it. I'm pretty sure it would have hurt if I held onto it. Central Missouri.
One of my Ephebopus cyanognathus slings died today while molting. No idea why, the other one molted just fine a few days ago.
Do I replace it so I have two again, and thus a better chance at a female or do I get 2 of something else to fill the vacant spot in my sling rack (one was empty anyway).
>>2388688
it was dehydrated
>>2388691
How can you be so sure? I keep them pretty damn moist, and the other one molted just fine, in almost identical conditions two days ago.
>>2388693
death during molting means dehydration
do you drink when you take baths?
sorry it wasn't your fault
they are boring species anyways
oh well
>>2388700
Still strange to me why only one would be dehydrated.
>they are boring species anyways
Hey now, they were among the best eaters of all of my slings and they build nice socks to hide in.
>>2383268
>not summoning insects from other dimensions which break the laws of physics on a regular basis
>>2387591
Yeah man not like a completely harmles tarantula!
>>2388737
But most tarantulas literally are harmless.
>>2388792
so are most centipedes
How big is too big for you, /an/?
>>2389198
>>2388700
>death during molting means dehydration
That's bullshit, I hope you know that.
>>2389198
Anything that can't live in a 40x40 cm terrarium. So Theraphosas are out.
someone make a new thread
>>2389262
I'll get us once we've reached page 5
How does on go about finding ways to get involved with arachnids in their local area?
>>2389336
How do you mean "involved"? There are projects that aim to provide distribution maps. However, contributing to these projects means you have to know your shit and be able to correctly identify the separate species.
>>2389339
Like I guess meeting people and shit. Or helping labs out.
do male tarantulas fight eachother like beta fish or can i keep 2 together?
>>2389364
Vast majority will eat each other by bedtime.
Some Avicularias and Poecilotherias can be communally kept from what I hear, but but ti's still not 100% safe.
>>2389364
No.
>>2389377
"communally" in the sense of "if you give them a big enough enclosure with enough space so they can be practically solitary they might not all eat each other for the next 3 months"
you get the random idiot that tries a communal pokie setup and it's "going fine" for a while and then you never hear from him again and you can guess why
the only one that I know of that you can keep communally is M. balfouri, and even there you have to pull out males or they get eaten
if you could keep tarantulas communally it would be done, especially by professional breeders that want to save as much space and cost as they can
it isn't done because it doesn't work
>>2389421
What should I search to find a keeper near me?
>>2389428
Watch for local groups at facebook and other networks. Visit local or nearby fairs.
>>2389435
>fairs
Like a carnival but for spiders?
Beginner g. portentosa anon back again.
I just got my shipment of 4 more roaches, but they're like 1/2 the size of the ones I already have. Will this cause any isssues I should watch out for?
>>2389449
No, all sizes/ages can live together. If you ever want to have them breed you can leave the offspring with the parents.
>>2389447
convention, expo, whatever you want to call it
>>2389428
Where you located?
>>2389464
Illinois
New thread when?