>>2040700 this is retarded, there's extensive and conclusive data that almost all developed amniotes feel in a way similar to that of humans, we all share the basic kit of emotions (anger, fear, joy, sadness, surprise and disgust) while we humans develop secondary emotions on from these ones, animals can't; that's why while we can feel say, condemn or shame, animals cant.
Cockatoos are among the smartests creatures on earth, they are with humans the only species able of enjoying music and dance to it, and their pack of secondary emotions is pretty big, obviously not human but big.
>>2041064 Panksepp, J. (1982). "Toward a general psychobiological theory of emotions". Behavioral and Brain Sciences 5 (3): 407–422. doi:10.1017/S0140525X00012759. "Emotions help animals to make choices (press release)". University of Bristol. 2010. Retrieved October 26, 2013. Jacky Turner and Joyce D'Silva, ed. (2006). Animals, Ethics and Trade: The Challenge of Animal Sentience. Earthscan. ISBN 9781844072545. Retrieved October 26, 2013. Wong, K. (2013). "How to identify grief in animals". Scientific American. Retrieved October 26, 2013. Bateson, M.; Desire, S.; Gartside, S.E.; Wright, G.A. (2011). "Agitated honeybees exhibit pessimistic cognitive biases". Current Biology 21 (12): 1070–1073. doi:10.1016/j.cub.2011.05.017. PMID 21636277. Fox, E. (2008). Emotion Science: An Integration of Cognitive and Neuroscientific Approaches. Palgrave MacMillan. pp. 16–17. ISBN 978-0-230-00517-4.
>>2041064 Basic emotions Examples of basic emotions
For more than 40 years, Paul Ekman has supported the view that emotions are discrete, measurable, and physiologically distinct. Ekman's most influential work revolved around the finding that certain emotions appeared to be universally recognized, even in cultures that were preliterate and could not have learned associations for facial expressions through media. Another classic study found that when participants contorted their facial muscles into distinct facial expressions (e.g. disgust), they reported subjective and physiological experiences that matched the distinct facial expressions. His research findings led him to classify six emotions as basic: anger, disgust, fear, happiness, sadness and surprise. He then found the same emotions in dogs and other animals.
All people playing semantics on here lmao, emotions are nothing but neurological chemistry, which is shared in pretty similar ways in all upper amniotes (mammals and birds), there's no reason nor logic for claiming animals don't have feelings rather than just aspergering over such a loosely defined word as "emotion", being factual all animals feel, since emotions are a natural response to stimulae, social animals tend to develop more complex emotions (like dogs or humans which are pretty fucking expresive animals) while solitaire animals have more basic ones.
>>2041082 I've provided evidence that animals do feel, saying that animals don't is just playing semantics on the definition of emotion. I've backed up my claims (and I've also read what I've posted and it DOES back up what i claim, either you didn't read it or are just blantantly lying)
>>2041082 >methodology is weak >literally a milestone of neuroethology, human psychology and biology in the last 40 years >a "theory" so accepted and praised it was the basis on the best movie of last year, Inside Out.
On the other hand unless you can prove me that upper amniotes don't feel, I won't take you seriously, sorry but science is CONCLUSIVE ON THE MATTER, ANIMALS DO FEEL, THIS HAS BEEN STUDIED SINCE DARWIN'S The Expression of the Emotions in Man and Animals, TO CLAIM THEY DON'T IS LIKE DENYING EVOLUTION, WHICH IT IS
>>2041091 >>literally a milestone of neuroethology, human psychology and biology in the last 40 years so you're saying all that relies on the similarity between human facial expressions and those of dogs?
hell, nobody on /an/ believes that when a dog is 'smiling' it feels happy, so you're not going to get any support on that bullshit here.
>I've also read what I've posted and it DOES back up what i claim I assume since you didn't provide a single quote backing your claims that you're still talking out your ass.
and I'm pretty sure you made up the term "upper amniotes."
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