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Why do some many other women give oral sex? You know you've basically Fucked the rest of us that can't do this, right?

Every relationship I have been in, I'm literally the only girlfriend that has never done it, and eventually it becomes a huge issue and things fall apart.

I'm expected as part of a relationship, to put myself in a submissive and vulnerable position, cover and erect penis with my mouth, and move my head back and forth repeatedly as fast as I possibly can. I'm expected to choke myself do this while trying to gasp for breathes and cause myself to tear up to the point where I can't even really see what I'm doing. I'm expected to just let my spit collect all over my mouth and face because there is no way I can swallow or get rid of it fast enough when it builds up while doing this, so I look like a Fucking Basset Hound.

Not only that, I have to do this to the point that the penis builds up enough pressure that the urethra starts suffer a series of contractions, and then semen discharges in spurts while I am doing this, and the expectation is I will continue to move my head back and forth over the penis and let the discharges hit me in various areas of my mouth, likely causing me to choke and gasp. Or I pull back and present my face so that it is used as a target for the semen discharges, like I'm some inanimate object. Fuck that! That has to be the most absolutely humiliating and degrading thing that one human being can do to another out of supposed "love".
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>>16889184
sounds like someone hates fun!
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>>16889184
Yes.
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If you let him eat you out, and he goes in there and gets his spit and your pussy juice all over his lips and face, the least you could do is return the favor.
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Yeah and someone has to tongue your dank cooch too.
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That made me horny. Be right back, going to suck off my SO.
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>the penis builds up enough pressure
that's not how it works
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/r9k/ is out in force today. Please stop feeding the trolls, /adv/.
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>>16889184

You really don't have to think of it that way. My girlfriend and I like making each other feel good. It's not degrading. I have no problem getting my hands or face messy for her, and she's the same with me. It doesn't have to be vulgar, it doesn't have to be some kind of power play. Sex is whatever you make of it. Your attitude determines the nature of your experience.
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>>16889214
I seriously read this and thought the same thing, but my husband's asleep.
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>>16889184
Thanks OP, now I'm hard
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>>16889184
This is probably bait, but I actually have some advice for you if it is real. First, if you don't like it, you don't have to do it. You are not obligated to perform any sexual act that makes you uncomfortable. And, if your partner values oral sex more than he values you, he has the right to break up with you.

Second, you can adjust your technique. It sounds like you don't like having dick in your mouth - but could you tolerate just the tip? In that case, you could give a "faux job", using mostly your hands with just the tip in your mouth, or even just licking it. It also isn't failing at blow jobs to take breaks, or go slowly for a bit, or switch to your hands entirely, or even ask him to take over (with his hands, presumably) for a while.

Lastly, you do not have to let him ejaculate in your mouth. You can kindly ask him to finish elsewhere, or even use a condom! There are so many options to explore!

As for why other women give oral sex, some of us enjoy it, which might be hard for you to imagine, but it is true. Some of us even enjoy the objectification and humiliation.
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>>16889184

I’m expected as part of a relationship, to put myself in a dominant but vulnerable position, to enter a wet vagina with my penis, and move its head back and forth repeatedly as fast as I possibly can. I’m expected to choke her while doing this while trying to gasp for breathes and cause her to tear up to the point where I can’t even see what I’m doing. I’m expected to just let her juices collect all over my dick and balls because there is no way I can prevent or get rid of it fast enough when it build up while doing this, so I look like a fucking guy with a slimy ballsack.
Not only that, I have to do this to the point that the vagina builds up enough pleasure that the outer walls start to suffer a series of contractions, and then orgasmic screaming escapes from her mouth while I am doing this, and the expectation is that I continue to move my penis back and forth inside her vagina and let her convulsions hit me in various areas of my shaft, likely causing me to feel pressure and discomfort. Or I pull out and present my penis so that it is used as a target for all kinds of praises, as if it is some sort of inaminate object. Fuck that! That has to be one of the most humiliating and degrading things that one human being can do to another out of supposed “love”.
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>I'm expected to choke myself do this while trying to gasp for breathes and cause myself to tear up to the point where I can't even really see what I'm doing.
Oral is expected in a relationship generally, especially if you receive it yourself. But it's not like you have to kill yourself doing it. Life isn't a porno.

>>16889214
lol
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>>16889224
Do it anyways
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>>16889184
You sound like you're overdoing it.
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>boyfriend is studying for his midterms
>he hates being bothered while he's studying
>i see this thread
fuck you, OP
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probably bait but i'll bite - at the very least, it's just polite. if he eats you out, suck him off and vice versa.
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>>16889250

Tell him to keep working while you go to work on him

I would marry any woman who did that for me, and do everything I could to give her the life of her dreams
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>>16889257
nah he gets this look on his face like "what the hell are you trying to do", but we've got a trip together at the end of the month so i won't have to wait too long
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>>16889266

Persistence is a virtue, lol
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>>16889250
Do it anyways! Do it so well that he forgets he hates being interrupted
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>>16889230
>your partner values oral sex more than he values you, he has the right to break up with you.

Stopped reading right there. You expect a man to live a life without head? That shit is cruel. OP is damaged, oral is standard for all. Get over it.
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>>16889280
Not sure how you got that anyone is expected to live without oral out of that...
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>>16889233

underrated post
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>>16889184
i was seeing a girl that wouldn't do it. I was okay with it because i just told her im not going to go down on her then. Just ended up having sex more so idc
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>>16889184

My wife is uncomfortable with oral and anal. Yeah I miss it sometimes but honestly oral is and never was as good as PIV sex.

If my wife wanted to give me oral right now I would take it for the novelty, but I know after a minute I will be annoyed or bored with it and want to grab her from behind and just go to town.

Just make up for it is all. My wife and I are perfectly happy with an oral free relationship. I don't have the obligation to eat pussy which I fucking hate to do.
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>>16889184
You're so right. Men are fucking dumb asses for wanting my lips around their cock. Honey, if you wanted life to be like your porno maybe you should also look like a model. But because most men don't have the right body we can't be bothered to waste time doing some stupid submissive shit.
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>>16889288
>thinks a woman like OP would ever let her man get head elsewhere.
>>16889308
Wow. Sounds like you've never had a good blow job. I'll pray for you.
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>>16889365

This. You should start letting closeted gay 20-year-olds go down on you. Best thing ever, saved my marriage
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>>16889365

I have had blow jobs from 6 different women in my life. Most of them were boring and I had a hard time cumming. Two of them were alright and I could cum but I would still rather have sex.
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>>16889371

I am not gay, but for some reason I don't feel like I would be bothered by getting a blowjob from a man, as long as there wasn't eye contact or unsettling intimacy. Would be afraid of an STD.

How did that save your marriage per se? Your wife get off on watching or is she frigid and not care?
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>>16889377
You ever had a woman do throat you while licking your balls AT THE SAME TIME.
Ever had a woman hum Happy Birthday with your cock in her mouth?
What about a woman sucking you off with such glorious hunger that she pauses every few minutes to beg you to fuck her? And you don't let her, because you want MOAR hot mouth action?

It's a golden world.
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>>16889184
>>16889327
This bait
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>>16889202
Preach.
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>>16889428
>I can't read file names
>what is sarcasm
>who am I?
>why am I not posting best girl?
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>>16889308
Denial: The Post.
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>>16889184
Why do you keep doing oral sex until he cums?

My gf and I literally only do it as some foreplay.
I have only cum a handful of times from oral.
She cums all the time from oral.

Just don't do it all the time but man some oral here and there isn't a big deal.
How can you say you love them if you can't handle putting their dick in your mouth? Like you're disgusted by a part of them?
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>>16889454
>a read or die gif

Such taste. Marry me.
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>>16889184
lol
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>>16889184
As a man I kind of agree. However, it is because the majority of women suck at giving head. They, like you, seem to believe that you are being asked to furiously slam you head up and down into our crotches. Needless to say, almost all of them fail to notice their sharp ass teeth scrapping the skin off my cock.

The best head I have ever gotten was from a fat black hooker. She popped my dick into her mouth and started to sucked. My god did she suck. It literally felt like my dick was being pulling into another dimension. After about 15 seconds of this she moved her head up and down like three time, slurped and gurgled a little, and then I busted the biggest nut of my life. Shit was so cash, mang, and I don't think my dick went more then half way into her mouth at any point.
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>>16889495
Sorry my heart has already been claimed. OP seems available though.
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>>16889512
why is it that only fat girls seem to have this ability? is it taught at fat girl club as a secret nuclear option to get or keep a man?
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>>16889184
my gf was sexually assaulted and giving oral is difficult for her. in the year we've been together she has performed oral, maybe, four times. she's terrible at it, she knows it and is self-conscious about it. i try to get her to read up on techniques to feel more confident but she just sort of does the same thing she usually does.

i appreciate that she at least tries despite it not really being the most pleasurable act. i've had past gfs that were not only eager to give oral but were good at it as well. perhaps i'm a bit spoiled from it all.

if my gf didn't have a good reason to shy away from giving oral then i would have broken up with her a year ago. a girl intends to be in a serious relationship, committed to a dude, expecting a satisfactory sex life but won't suck dick? kek, good fucking luck.
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>>16889396
>gf sucking me off
>tell her to look up at me
>she's still going and looks up
>those fucking eyes
>grab her hair and pull her off my dick
>she tries to go back to it
>use it to slap her lips and cheeks while she keeps trying
Blowjobs are amazing
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>>16889184
I'd rather eat a girl out than have her blow me, desu. Not that blow jobs aren't nice mind you.
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>>16889693
Wtf I did not type "desu" what is this shit?
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>>16889699
Kek
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>>16889184
>Why do some many other women give oral sex?
For the same reason I love eating pussy.
>I'm literally the only girlfriend that has never done it
Tits or GTFO.
>I'm expected as part of a relationship, to put myself in a submissive and vulnerable position,
So why some women find it empowering? Because when he's shaken by shivers of pleasure, you feel in charge.
>cover and erect penis with my mouth, and move my head back and forth repeatedly as fast as I possibly can
This is not a blowjob.
I mean, it is, but it is not the only way to give one.
>I'm expected to choke myself do this while trying to gasp for breathes
Chill out, girl. You don't have to deepthroat the dude on first date. Take it easy. Lick the lollipop... don't swallow it unless you mean to.
>I'm expected to just let my spit collect all over my mouth and face because there is no way I can swallow or get rid of it fast enough when it builds up while doing this, so I look like a Fucking Basset Hound.
My gf spits it out. Never had a prob with that.
>Not only that, I have to do this to the point that the penis builds up enough pressure that the urethra starts suffer a series of contractions, and then semen discharges in spurts while I am doing this, and the expectation is I will continue to move my head back and forth over the penis and let the discharges hit me in various areas of my mouth, likely causing me to choke and gasp
I wanked to this part. Neatly written.
>like I'm some inanimate object. Fuck that! That has to be the most absolutely humiliating and degrading thing that one human being can do to another out of supposed "love"

Best b8.
I give it 10/10.
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>>16889693
I'm like this. But I see my gf always insists.
So I came to realize that's what girls want.
She doesn't even want to come.
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>>16889184
Be my gf, i'll eat your pussy all day
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>>16889184
well that's what happens when you date shallow chads who only want you for sex and place the most importance on sex.
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>>16889184
My wife got told, when we were dating, that blowjobs are a requisite thing. She'd never done it but tried and after a while became really good at it.

Now I really appreciate it because her blowjobs are easily the best of any of the other women who've sucked on my cock since marriage.

Whoops, made an admission I probably shouldn't have.

What I mean is her blowjobs are easily the best of any of the other women who've sucked on my cock since marriage except the one who's doing it now.
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>>16889184
Wow not my fault you can't suck dick & I can. Grow some ovaries damn, we were made to do it.
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>>16889820
Tits or GTFO
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>>16889454
>I don't understand that some people don't bother with shit this insignificant
>Sarcasm translates easily through text
>This is worth talking about further
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>>16889579
It's because they practically inhale food
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>>16889184
Or you could just suck on the tip like a straw...
I dont give my gfs oral but luckily its not expected of alpha males to.
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>>16889327
>>16889184
I'm going to pray for both of you baiters.
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>>16889512
That was a great story; thanks for sharing! I also agree - 95% of all women I've ever gotten a BJ from needed serious coaching. Even the experienced ones. Either men don't speak up or all of you bust your nut to the worst head.

Trick is you have to train them:
>Do this.
>Now do this.
>Now do thiiiiiiis.
Is it annoying? Fuck yes. Is it worth it though when she knows exactly how you like it? Fuck yes.
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Giving a blowjob is not the same thing as eating a girl out. Most women can't orgasm from just penetration sex you selfish asshole!
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>>16890286
Over complicating things you selfish cunt.

If you're not cuming during sex, your man is shit and you should take matters into your own hands, literally.

You expect someone to put their head between your thighs, you'd better be willing to at least offer to do the same for them.

OP, relationships are built overtime. Love at first sight is a myth. I tell you this because the honest truth is most loving relationships are built on a foundation of lust and good sex.

I love my girl. If she told me she didn't want to give me head anymore, I'd be incredibly dissapointed, but we'd stay together. We might need to talk about our sexual expectations, but we'd stay together. If she'd told me no head at the outset, we'd have never been together long enough for me to fall in love with her in the first place.

Also, I got rock hard reading the OP.
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>>16889184
Contrary to popular belief, blowjobs do not exist solely to punish and humiliate women.

Many women actually quite enjoy giving them, just as many men enjoy performing oral sex on women.
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>>16889708
anon
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You Motherfuckers.

I swear to God I wish I could meet some of you misogynists in real life and teach you a Fucking lesson on how women are supposed to be treated. Like human beings.
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>>16891046
Because women all like and hate the same thing like a homogeneous hoard.
Get over yourself, some women like giving them some don't find a man who won't care about it and move on
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>>16890359
>If you're not cuming during sex, your man is shit and you should take matters into your own hands, literally.
Or you could just tell your man how to make you cum, like a real adult.
Or you know you could just keep doing what women do and not tell him and fake it and let yourself stew in resentment at his "mediocrity"
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huh. Im glad my gf loves oral. Same for me. We allways start sex with oral and i love cumming in her mouth. She loves it too.
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>>16891063
this.
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>>16889184
>I'm expected as part of a relationship, to put myself in a submissive and vulnerable position, cover and erect penis with my mouth, and move my head back and forth repeatedly as fast as I possibly can. I'm expected to choke myself do this while trying to gasp for breathes and cause myself to tear up to the point where I can't even really see what I'm doing.
Try to not do it like a hardcore movie and you'll be ok
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>>16889250
>tfw working on math homework on my time off
>gf comes home from work
>she says "hi, what you doing? It's been a while since we had days off together"
While still working, somewhat glancing at her, "I know love, we'll do something nice later. Movie? Maybe a meal as well"
>"Let's cook something and watch alien shows on Netflix"
"Uh huh "
>mfw she goes under my desk and starts blowing me

Needless to say, date night started right there and then.


Homework still got done.
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>>16891046
Fuck you.. I treat women better than human beings.. The nerve of some chicks telling me I make them come to quickly.. Bah!
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I've never had a proper BJ because my dick is too big

Seriously
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>>16889184
Bait, but you know, you should probably at some point grow up and realize sex is what you make it. A blow job can be super-degrading, sure, and it can also be super-empowering. It seems as if you don't get pleasure from being the fucking boss of his cock for a while and you CLEARLY don't get any satisfaction or enjoyment from making your SO feel good. You sound a little like a shit person, to be honest.

Regardless, some people enjoy the degradation, on both sides of your weird gender divide you seem to have made up in your head.

Sex isn't one thing, honestly, and you sound very very immature about it. My SO and I sometimes do it very sensually, sometimes it's quick, sometimes it's rough as fuck, sometimes it's fucking out of control. Same thing with any other sex act. Sometimes she wants me to kiss and lick her all over and go down on her slow, sometimes she wants me to just bury my face in it and go nuts.

Good luck with getting one to stick around very long with your attitude though.
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As a MAN I'm expected as part of a relationship, to put myself in a submissive and vulnerable position, let her cover and erect penis with her mouth...

Food for thought?
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>>16891107
>tfw you're still a virgin because they literally are scared of my 8.5x3.5 inch dick
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>>16889184
Bait. But in the chance it isn't, stop being such a fucking prude. I hope you don't expect or have your boyfriends eat you out because it's the same thing. I give my so blowjobs multiple times in a week sometimes. It turns me on getting him off. Don't think of it as being submissive, think of it as having the power. You're in control. You decide whether you tease him, or make him have the best orgasm he's ever had. It's not about being degraded it's about a mutual loving experience that brings you both together. Yes blow jobs do that. I don't blame guys for breaking up with you. I would break up with a guy for refusing to go down on me too. It's offensive.
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>>16891255
That sounds like a hilariously proportioned dick. It'd be like getting fingered by an alien.
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>>16891255
You either have the world's worst pencil dick. Orrr you don't know how to measure girth.

Wrap a tape round your dick at its widest point. You are measuring circumference.

I'm 7x6.5 which is huge for girth, gf has still done anal and tries damp hard for bjs
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>>16889184
Well I hope you don't want your bf to put his tongue near your stinky oozing gash, either.

If you can both agree to that, should be just fine.
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I always get so envious hearing women talk about how much their men love giving oral. Mine doesn't show any interest in doing that for me. It makes me feel pretty bad because I really enjoy giving him oral. I love being able to give him attention even when it means I'm not getting any in return. He never has to ask for it. I do it because I genuinely like to give him pleasure and I think it shows how much I care. I still do it for him even when he never returns the favor. I was hoping to lead by example instead of nagging him about it, but that plan didn't work. Talking about it hasn't changed anything, either. Guess I'll drop it.
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>>16889184
Never trust a woman that doesn't swallow. I am completely serious. A good man returns the favor. I guess as long as you don't expect him to eat your pussy then it should be fine. If you do then you are a hypocritical feminist cunt.
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>>16891684
You need to make it explicitly clear to him that you are not happy with your sex life and penetrative sex is not enough for you. Tell him you need oral to get off.

If he continues to not care/not do it, then it's on you to decide if you can live with that for the rest of your life (assuming you have long term plans with him).
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>>16889796
You do realize you were typing a post and not talking, right? You could have deleted those words. You are either trying to sound like a badass or just get something off your chest.
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My first gf hated giving head and would not take the time to try and get better at it or even blow me at all. I was okay with it but every girl since has been okay with blowjobs and the last girl I was with gave the most amazing head, I don't think I could ever get in a serious relationship with a non blower again. Also, I love eating pussy and do so without intentions of receiving head and have been told I'm amazing at it.
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>>16891046
You wouldn't do shit.
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>>16889184
Because I devour pussy like it's going out of style.
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>>16889184
> Fuck that! That has to be the most absolutely humiliating and degrading thing that one human being can do to another out of supposed "love".
many people (me included) love being degraded in sex

You don't have to do it, if you don't like to. many people do, but that's upto them.
>Every relationship I have been in, I'm literally the only girlfriend that has never done it, and eventually it becomes a huge issue and things fall apart.
If it falls apart over that, your relationship was hardly a relationship to begin with.
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>>16891699
We've talked about my issue with his lack of action more than a few times. The first time I brought it up he tried going down there, but only spent a few minutes and gave a pretty half-hearted attempt. He's tried it twice and the sessions last less than five minutes. Since then, nothing. I'm at a loss because, although I obviously need oral to get off when he's with me, I'm afraid he isn't interested because he doesn't like doing it....which really hurts to be honest. I care about him a lot and don't want to make him do something he doesn't like. I want him to feel the way I do about oral: do it because it's something he enjoys, not because he has to. I'm not going to end things with him because of this. He's more important to me than that. I just wish he cared more.
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>>16892068

It really is hilarious. Men can absolutely get away with not doing oral in relationships, but women for the most part cannot.
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>>16889184
bjs seem pretty popular in porn so it shouldnt be surprising that women and men are inclined to try it and then end up liking it.

It also appears that you are solely focused on your perspective, maybe people give each other oral because they want to make their partner happy?
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>>16892086
The thing is, I understand that performing oral sex on a woman is harder than it is on a man. At least in my case. I was able to get really good at fellatio in a short amount of time and have a lot of fun along the way probably because it's just easier to get men off. I can see how the process of gaining skill with that would seem daunting for him since there are so many factors involved. I was hoping he would ignore that and try his best to learn because he loves me.
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>>16891907
THis is objectively untrue. For anyone saying "hurrr if the relationship falls apart, it wasn't any good to start with!", when you enter into a sexual partnership with someone, it IS YOUR JOB to at the very least attempt to try and make them sexually happy within the bounds of your relationship. That goes both ways. You wouldn't expect a man to go through life without getting head and you wouldn't expect a woman to either. If your relationship falls apart because you're not willing to at least try to get a little out of your comfort zone to make the other person happy, then you were a shitty partner who didn't care enough about the relationship to make an honest attempt to get past your "ewww gross" childish bullshit.

Can't stand it when people say crap like this, because yes, sometimes you have to change a little for the other person, sometimes you have to try new things (in all areas) for the other person. People that run around with this, "don't you ever be anything but yourself, don't you EVER CHANGE, girl/guy!" are why relationships fail. Of course you have to change. People change.
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>I'm expected as part of a relationship, to put myself in a submissive and vulnerable position, cover and erect penis with my mouth, and move my head back and forth repeatedly as fast as I possibly can. I'm expected to choke myself do this while trying to gasp for breathes and cause myself to tear up to the point where I can't even really see what I'm doing. I'm expected to just let my spit collect all over my mouth and face because there is no way I can swallow or get rid of it fast enough when it builds up while doing this, so I look like a Fucking Basset Hound.

I'm 100% in support of this being a socially enforced relationship norm, for the simple reason that it forces you to ensure mild discomfort for non-selfish reasons. If you're not capable of that, then you're selfish, childish and you don't get a relationship, end of story.

>tfw making america great again
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>>16889184
>You know you've basically Fucked the rest of us that can't do this, right?
don't care

>>16889194
>>16889214
>>16889224
>>16889247
>>16889275
>>16889280
>>16889233
top fucking kek
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We got a lot of absolute Fucking TRICKS in this thread here!
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>>16889184
>Why do some many other women give oral sex?

It's hot and fun?

>move my head back and forth repeatedly as fast as I possible can

Try other ways of sucking dick. Not all of it has to be neck work.

>expected to choke myself

It is possible to suck dick and still breathe

>just let my spit collect all over my mouth and face

It is also possible to suck dick without slobbering everywhere. How much saliva are you making that you can't swallow it while sucking dick?
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>>16889454
>Who am I?
NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS!!!
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>>16891283
>women that don't like the same sex things I do are prudes and deserved to be dumped! WAAAAH!
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>>16894096
>>16894096
>women that don't take pleasure in doing things that make their partner happy are objectively bad people

FTFY
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The relationship falls apart if you don't deliver? You have to move your head as fast as you possibly can? Date better dudes.
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>>16894293
This is the double standard and it's appalling. It's also just another truth about the lies we are told about women and men and sexuality by the media and society in general constantly.

>my man won't go down on me
You go girl, you are in charge of your sexuality, he better do that, he sucks, find a better man, etc. etc.
>my girl won't go down on me
You shitlord, you can't expect that from a woman, she's not a piece of meat, is sex all that matters to you? Be a better boyfriend and quit being so immature!
>I don't like to suck dick
You don't have to do anything you don't want to, he's a dick if he doesn't understand, go find a better boyfriend all he cares about is sex and he's immature
>I don't like to eat pussy
Man up, you need to take care of your girl, don't be such a pussy, she has needs too, grow up, don't be so immature about it, be a better boyfriend.

It's fucking ridiculous.
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well done OP
good thread
bait these muppets more
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The penis of the person you love is a delicious wonderful thing. I'm surprised you can look at a guy you love and not think "Yum!" when his pants drop. Because that's how I feel.
As for submission, sex is a submissive experience to anyone being penetrated. It's why srap-ons are so popular with dominatrixes, even when they work with straight men. You kinda have to accept that, or cut it out completely (I know of radfems who have relationships like this, and somehow it works for them).
But in case that's just not really the point, don't you think the person you love deserves a little bit on an effort? Wouldn't seeing them happy make you happy also?
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So biased that it is obviously bait. Anyone taking this seriously, even if it is legit, is chewing bait
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You know what is really submissive? Eating bait.
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>>16891313
>You are measuring circumference
Oh. Well, I don't usually measure my dick, so honest mistake. That kicks it up to a little less than 7 though.
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How about don't knock it until you try it?

Oh, and if you think you're going to literally choke on a dick, try not sucking one while holding your nose.
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>>16889233

Ding sides are done
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>>16889184
you need to work on your gag reflex.

oh and so is jamming your tounge in a hole that you almost cant breathe in, and wiggling it about until you get coated in female ejaculate. yes its no fun for guys either...
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>>16894740
>sex is submissive for anyone being penetrated

I'm a wizard but that doesn't sound right.
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>>16894740
>sex is a submissive experience to anyone being penetrated
That's not true at all. I stay on top a lot, when we're in doggy I make him stand still and move back and forth so I decide the pace, I make him edge, I tease him. I don't feel submissive at all doing that. I feel submissive when I'm passive and he's rough.
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>>16891885
>>16891725

Share your basic techniques for pussy eating?
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>>16889184
Hot. Go on.
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>>16894822
That's not how you eat a girl out
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>>16894835
>>16894844
Just because you're on top, or because you "feel" dominant, doesn't make it so.
The one being penetrated is the one literally opening themselves to strange bodies to be put inside them. It's a vulnerability most straight men will never know. Control is an illusion, specially for women. A guy only lets you "control" him physically because he likes it, but if he wanted to, he could push you over and what do whatever he wants at any time. So yes, it's submissive.
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>>16894858
In consensual sex, control is an illusion for both. Being "submissive" or "dominant" is pretty much just playing around. Whatever I let my boyfriend do to me, it's because I want him to do so.I could easily close my legs and walk away if I didn't want him to do certain things.
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>>16894887
And he has the physical ability to go after you, overpower you and rape you. He only chooses not to, but he definitely could if he wanted to. But hey, whatever you need to tell yourself.
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>>16889184
Im a guy and you're right

You dont have to do anything your not comfortable with

The awser to your question, sluts are narrowminded and have no self respect
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>>16889220
Consider this op
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>>16891684
Well I was in the same situation like you are. Except that I really didn't want anything in return. He tried at the beginning of our relationship, but probably didn't like it and I thought it's awkward so I didn't ever ask again.
Well after 10 years of marriage suddenly he started going down and seems to enjoy it. It's still awkward for me but I try to relax and enjoy it too.
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>>16889184
Is this bait? This is bait.

If you actually fucking loved them you would get the fuck over yourself and do it for them. It's a fucking blowjob, not a fucking pregnancy.

I bet you like receiving oral too.
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>>16889233
Fucking kek dude nice job
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>>16892086
I know. It's a fucking travesty. I'm glad that society is changing to a point where females can not feel bad wanting oral sex too, but it still astounds me that there are still people that think that it's okay for men to not eat a girl out but require blowjobs.

>>16892208
How is it harder? It's just different.
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>>16895319
How do I find a girl into pegging?
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>>16895322
The same way you find people that are into other sexual acts. You could also just introduce the concept with whatever partner you have.
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>>16894066
>tfw Mysterious Bullshitter will be a little less bullshitty soon

>>16889895
Lol
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>>16895422
>>16894066
kek
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>>16889708
what is this from
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>>16889184
I'm female, 25, and have given head to every person I've been with. Why? Because they give me head and it's only fair, licking pussy isn't all its cracked up to be either.

Not only that, but your picture of a blowjob is not only inaccurate (like virgin-level inaccurate) but also paints a negative picture of something that should be mutually enjoyable.

You're retarded. Suck your guy's dick, no one said you had to swallow (most do because it's easier than spitting it out). My fiance lets me just jerk him when my mouth/jaw gets tired, and sometimes I just have him cum on me (because that's hot) or on my hand if I don't feel like letting him cum in my mouth.

You're stupid. Learn to handle sex like an adult or don't have it.
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>>16894888
If you're not physically capable of overpowering another human being, maybe you should think twice about how you treat your body, not how to treat your relationship.

Go to the gym and learn how to kickbox, or take an into martial arts class. You shouldn't live in fear that any man can overpower you just by being a man.
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>>16889233
This was precious
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>>16896003
I'm not saying I'm in fear of it. It's just a fact. If I like a boy, it usually means I trust him to respect my decisions. But I do recognize it's his choice to do so, and even in the choice of not doing something, he is still the one controlling a situation. I understand "submission" seems to have a negative connotation, but in this case, it's just a word.
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Ok, I admit I only read half of the thread, but here's my take as a female...

If this is a relationship, then you should treat it as that. Relationships are built on trust and vulnerability.
All of the things you described, to me at least, lend well to the observation that you do not want to be vulnerable physically with him.
If that is the case, if a part of his body grosses you out that much, even when it's clean, then why are you with him?
Your partner should be someone you want to be open with, that you don't feel ashamed around, and that doesn't humiliate you.

I'm a pretty kinky person, but over time I've experienced a lot of shame surrounding sex due to the fact that partners do not want to experiment with me in the ways that I fantasize.
It hurts because it makes me feel like a freak who has to hide who I am and submit to a sexual norm. Do I like having a fetish? Hell no, I wish I was normal/vanilla. However no matter how much I wish it, the truth is still that if a person makes me ashamed to express who I am sexually, then they are not the one for me.
To tie that back to your situation, I think your bf deserves someone who will be more vulnerable with him.
If you don't want to open up, then I think it may be necissary to seek some counseling before getting into your next relationship.
Sex isn't clean, but that doesn't mean it isn't a biologically necissary part of human existance.
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>>16896037

I don't trust anything you said in your post.

I don't Fucking TRUST YOU!!
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>>16889184
>I'm expected as part of a relationship, to put myself in a submissive and vulnerable position, cover and erect penis with my mouth, and move my head back and forth repeatedly as fast as I possibly can. I'm expected to choke myself do this while trying to gasp for breathes and cause myself to tear up to the point where I can't even really see what I'm doing. I'm expected to just let my spit collect all over my mouth and face because there is no way I can swallow or get rid of it fast enough when it builds up while doing this, so I look like a Fucking Basset Hound.
There's me to oral sex than this. There's more than one speed and motion.

Anyway, I don't like the idea of getting blown, so I hope my partner is OK with this. She's not getting eaten out though. Can't have one without the other. The whole idea of oral sex disgusts me.

She's going to have to orgasm through penetration with me. (Being able to orgasm with others doesn't count.) So I'm screwed, cause you'll only find that out during sex, and only if she's honest about not faking. And I know I'll be expected to go down on her eventually.
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>>16896436
Oral sex is part of relationships.
Grow the fuck up
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>>16896466
With a response like that, it looks like you're the one that needs to "grow up."
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>>16896630
Forgot this is /adv/ where everyone's underage
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>>16895319
Surely you're joking. Among guys, not going down on your girl is even more frowned upon that girls not going down on their guy.
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>>16896003
>living in fear
>acknowledging a statistical truth

There's a difference, just in case you didn't know.
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I give oral sex because I want my partner to feel good. I give it on my terms, with no choking or gagging involved.
Deep throating is not the only part of oral. There's much more you can do with your tongue on the head, it's the most sensitive part anyways.
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>>16891046

Is this even real?
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>>16896927
If anything, I feel way safer for recognizing this and understanding how bad it can be to trust the wrong person.
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>>16896938
This isn't true for all guys. The head doesn't do jack for me, it's all about consistent motion and pressure on the underside of the shaft.
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>>16897020
i thought this was true for most guys - the shaft/frenulum? - someone whose sucked a lotta dick. sorry op!
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>>16897023
Yes, I have to tell women how to do it. Also, (and I know porn isn't a good measure of much) if you watch porn where the woman gets the man off from blowing him, they almost exclusively cum from repeated, consistent sucking of the shaft or by jacking themselves off. This would suggest (if you use the visual evidence of porn, amateur or otherwise) that actual ejaculation comes from shaft stimulation, not head stimulation.
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>>16889184
It can be kinda brutish in a lot of ways, but keep in mind how hard oral is for guys. It never hurts to return the favor if you're good at it, but sometimes blatantly refusing it is a little rude. I once went down on an old GF for a solid 30 minutes to get her to cum one time, and then she just flat out said she "wouldn't in a million years suck someone off"
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>>16897033
female privilege.
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>>16897032
In my experience it's true, but you're right, everyone's bodies are different. I shouldn't have made a blanket statement.
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>>16896919

By who? The statistics bear it out, less guys give oral, more can get away with it in relationships. Frankly, it's not even debatable.
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>>16897061
http://www.the-generous-husband.com/2012/07/14/oral-sex-survey-says/

http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2010/10/06/11-surprising-facts-about-americas-sexual-behaviors/

Which statistics?

Cause pretty much every sex survey I've read through says you're wrong and that in the 18-24 age range, men perform oral at a higher rate than women.
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If you don't like giving head I'll take your boyfriend off your hands for you :P
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>>16897087
Well, someone will eventually, I just don't think (if she's a real person) she gets why.
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>>16889184
That shit got me hard, tell another one.
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>>16896966

You're a swamp of evil, and I hate everything you stand for. I would accept tremendous suffering if even a tenth of that was revisited to you.
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>>16894712
>>I don't like to eat pussy
>Man up, you need to take care of your girl, don't be such a pussy, she has needs too, grow up, don't be so immature about it, be a better boyfriend.
Looks like >>16896436 just got this from >>16896466.

Such bullshit, if the guy's not comfortable with oral sex, then he'll just have to find someone that doesn't like it or loves him for more than just his tongue, that's all.
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>>16897092

No they Fucking won't you Motherfucker you! No they Fucking won't!
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>Got my first BJ at a halloween party last year from a friend with bangin' tits
>two days later she texts saying she feels like it's too soon a relationship, I'm like "yeah me too whatever"
>Fast forward three months and she has a boyfriend

Bitch.

Still though, those tits.
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>>16889184

>expected

That's an issue that has to be handled on a case-by-case basis, if this is a consistent issue then you're consistently getting into the wrong relationships. The exact same can be true of licking out a vagina, anal (for everyone involved), positions, environment, other partners, having sex at all and anything else. You can't just say "I'm expected to X" because without context it's meaningless. There is no default setting, you have to have those conversations to figure out where everything sits.

For what it's worth I don't go down on my fiancée very often because I have a pretty weak constitution and the taste makes me gag (picky eater, har har). I try to do it whenever I'm in the mood for it but we both know that there's no point in forcing it to happen, that's not good for either of us. And we know this because we've talked it out as though we were two adults trying to negotiate a long-term relationship and not sitcom characters whining about how the world just doesn't get us.

Note as well that it doesn't have to be an "everyone gets it or nobody does" situation either. I get more than my fair share of blowjobs but to compensate I had to get better about controlling my stamina and incorporating more finger action during the main show. You just have to make sure they're getting something they want to make up for what you can't provide, just like anything else in a relationship.

PS: Don't learn how to do this by watching porn. Most guys will probably be happy with either you sticking near the top few inches or giving what is basically a handjob with a lot of licking. The latter is also good since the orgasm doesn't need to happen in your mouth. There are easier approaches than "gag and drool until it's over and you can do cry."
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>>16889184
You don't have to choke yourself go down as far as you can without choking and keep your hand there and then just go back and fourth using a hand to stop you from going to far
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>>16889184
I've never experienced a satisfying blowjob and I don't expect or really care if a girl I'm with does it.

But I've been with a lot of girls who WANT to do it and say they LIKE doing it.
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>>16896938
Deep throating feels better. No point otherwise. Your little tongue techniques you think you're good with that your boyfriend fake moans to doesn't mean jack.
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You people are a troll's wet dream. I heard that /adv/ was easy to troll but gee.
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>>16891046
>>16894045
>>16896296
>>16897608

>mfw OP always capitalises his/her swear words

On topic, I recently started getting blowjobs from my long term on/of gf after maybe 6-7 years of persistence.

tl;dr follows

She hated the idea at first but always loved jacking me off. Then after a long time of vanilla sex she began to get quite broody, always trying to talk me into leaving the condom off and coming inside her. About the same time she got really interested in my balls and started playing with them a lot, commenting on their size and weight, etc. One night after a long time apart she got a little drunk and sucked my balls for about an hour while jerking me off.

From then on she began sucking my balls on a semi-regular basis but still wouldn't put the head in her mouth, saying it was dirty and other such dogmatic things. So I told her about how good it felt when she licked up and down the bottom of the shaft, and she began incorporating that into her routine. After like 6 months of this she finally became persuaded to lick the tip, and I kinda forced the head into her mouth (I feel a bit bad about this). She pulled away, so I sat her down and basically said, look I know you feel a certain way about this, but if you just try it, you'll rewrite whatever bad associations you've got. So she said okay and started sucking properly and did a pretty good job... after a few minutes I was fit to burst so told her to stop and fucked her as a thank you. Since then she's been blowing me regularly without complaints.

I guess some people just need a lot of time and support to overcome this sort of thing.
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>>16898451

Tongue feels better for me. It's almost like different people like different things, weird.
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You don't have to give such terrible blowjobs and you don't have to suck him off till he cums on you. You could just have sex after he's really turned on.
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>>16889686
Yesss then flip her over and pound away until she whimpers and spills her juices all over the bed
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>>16889595
Mine was too, she has PTSD, and I think it's actually caused her to WANT to be degraded in bed. She asks me to slap her, tie her up, force her mouth into my cock.

At first I was uncomfortable hitting her, the most I can do is lightly slap her. As for the light bondage that's pretty cash I'll admit, but the issue is a couple times during this she'll freak out, and have a panic attack. I don't know why she wants this so bad.

The mind is an odd organ
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I love giving BJ's so I dont really know why you're complaining.

Giving BJ's is like my fave thing to do.

o_o
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>>16889184
Use your hand and your mouth... its fun over you get the hang of it. Talk to your partner. Whatever sexual thing you do, you have to be vulnerable to feel anything real. YOU CAN DO IT!
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>>16889184
Do it how the fuck you're comfortable doing it. Do the guys dictate to you you have to do it like their favourite pornstar? If they do then you need to reconsider your choices when it comes to men you have sex with.
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>>16889184
>>/tumblr/
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>>16898451
This.

Keep licking around my head while I pretend I really like it so you won't get your widdle feelings all hurt and stop sucking it altogether, when all I really want you to do is suck it hard and fast and deep so I can fucking cum already.
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>>16899253
>actively promoting not communicating how you like things done sexually and if you do, you're a bad choice as a partner

Not gonna make it, brah.
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