I'm an amateur beekeeper. I keep bees in my backyard so I can harvest their honey. I love honey, it has a lot of practical purpose on top of being delicious. It takes the bees quite a long time to finish the honey so I don't appreciate it when it's taken. They do make a fair bit though, I usually sell my leftovers to people I know who want honey. Lately I've noticed several jars of my honey going missing. My girlfriend is the only person that's ever at my house so she is obviously the only suspect.
I confronted her about this. She admitted she had been taking my honey and giving it to her friends and family, for free, and without my permission. I told her this was unacceptable, I didn't give her permission to take any honey and she completely broke my trust. I said she's not allowed near my storage closet anymore and she's not allowed to stay at my house when I'm not here.
She thinks I'm being unfair but she stole from me, I don't think that's a small offense. I trusted her around my belongings and she took some. Am I being unfair? It's not like I wouldn't have given them honey if they wanted some but she went behind my back and she gave away my honey jars on top of it, those things are pricey.
>she's stealing from you
>thinks being punished is unfair
You're in the right OP.
>Am I being unfair?
No, I personally think you overreacted a little bit, but to each their own. It's not like there is a right or wrong choice in what you decide to do, just what you feel is appropriate.
>It's not like I wouldn't have given them honey if they wanted some but she went behind my back and she gave away my honey jars on top of it, those things are pricey
Tell her that. It's fine to do things like this from time to time to show people that they can't just walk over you. Tell her you overreacted a little bit if you think you did (or don't if you don't think you did), but don't apologize because she did fucking steal from you, after all.
The fact that she did this is kind of a red flag, though. Honesty and communication is important for steady relationships, but everybody has secrets.
Nah, you reacted appropriately. You worked hard to harvest that honey, but even if you hadn't she still took something of yours without permission.
On principle you are in the right.
But your execution was completely in the wrong.
By over-reacting, what you bassically just did was shift the culpability and make HER the victim instead of you
If you wanted her to understand you shouldn't have banned her from your house and all that, you should have just told her that you love her, but she literally STOLE from you--took it without your permission and that is NOT at all cool.
She is a grown and adult and should know what is right and what is wrong.
Basically be the adult and make her feel guilty for not being one, not throw a tantrum and make yourself look like a child.
Did she try to deny taking the honey at all?
Did you set any rules about her taking honey before all this?
Did she have any idea what the honey was worth, or try to profit off it?
How much do you think was taken from you money wise?
Did you give away some to your family while she was present?
>She thinks I'm being unfair but she stole from me
She did take from you and should have asked beforehand, but she didn't. That's where she is in the wrong, but if you never set boundaries before this point concerning the honey and she was upfront about taking it, then of course she would feel that you are being unfair about this.
OK this one caught my attention,
yep she's in the wrong taking your precious sweet golden delicious nectar(am a hunny lover myself) without your permission.
But depending on how much you love her and if she makes a genuine apology then yeah better to forgive and forget
OP....how sure are you that your GF isn't a fucking BEAR?
Why is nobody questioning the fact that you stole the honey from the bees beforehand?
>babe, where's my honey?
>oh I gave some to steve and julie they really loved it!
>but I was saving that honey!
>teehee, I'm sorry sweetie I didn't know you were saving it
>well now you're just going to have to gimme some of YOUR honey
Missed opportunity, anon.
She didnt think it mattered. You are going to break up eventually. Protip though, no one is going to give a shit about your honey. Youve ruined this relationship. Try to find a girl who can understand how crazy you are about honey.
You could have just told her not to touch your stuff since it means a lot to you, desu you sort of spazzed out and are overreacting since.
Lel it's honey
But yeah she shouldn't be taking your shit and giving it to people.
I'm a bit mindboggled that people here think that OP is overreacting. If someone steals from you, are you really going to let them back in your house unattended? Ridiculous.
If she doesn't think that stealing from you was a big deal, it speaks loads about your relationship, and you have a lot to think about.
What a shithead. Why does she think she's allowed to give away your honey? It's yours.
It's as if she likes to knit and you start going to her house and give away her doilies and knitted shirts and scarves and whatnot, or if she likes to draw and you give away her drawings. What a selfish bitch.
Lately I've noticed several toilet paper rolls of my mine have going missing. My girlfriend is the only person that's ever at my house so she is obviously the only suspect.
I confronted her about this. She admitted she had been taking my toilet paper rolls and giving it to her friends and family, for free, and without my permission. I told her this was unacceptable, I didn't give her permission to take any honey and she completely broke my trust. I said she's not allowed near my toilet paper roll storage closet anymore and she's not allowed to stay at my house when I'm not here.
Whether or not you like it, this is how crazy you sound. Instead of going straight bitch mode, try to make her understand how important it is to you. It is unfair when theres no way for her to know how crazy you are.
You realise that honey can be quite expensive, right? But that isn't the point, this is something he produces himself, not buys whenever it's on special offer and they're running low.
>You realise that honey can be quite expensive, right?
No one else knows this. So to everyone else, its insignificant as fuck.
>this is something he produces himself
And he can always make more of the insignificant as fuck item in question.
This is how any reasonable person is going to see it. Not everyone is a honey expert. He should have gotten her to understand that his honey is not an insignificant item.
Look it's the fact that she took and not asked.
Op your fine but this is a breach of trust
You tell children to ask before they take but a grown woman not to?
If a child did the same and it's not just one jar its several how many hours did I just lose? If it's more than one that's bad cause that my time she gave away without caring cause my time is unimportant.
I'd break up with her.
Guys say that's extreme clearly don't have boundaries. They let their girl walk over them.
Any thing that breaches trust is important cause know I have to wonder if this bitch will do it again.
To much frustration.
Why break up? Every action has its consequence she clearly never though of them she apparently didn't know my time is a valuable fucken asset that she gets the luxury of giving away.
>Be a carpenter
>Spend just over a week building a chair
>A few days after it's completion it goes missing
>Girlfriend says "oh I gave it to my friend lol. It's cool, you'll simply make more, right? Chairs are an insignificant item."
I can't believe you people are defending this. It doesn't even matter if it's expensive or not.
It's like she started taking books right out of your bookshelf and giving them away, it doesn't matter if they were cheap paperbacks, they were your goddamned books. You shouldn't have to tell a grown person "oh by the way don't steal my shit while you're at my house ok"
>And he can always make more of the insignificant as fuck item in question.
Um, no, actually, he can't. I don't keep bees myself, but I do brew mead, so I've had to learn a thing or two about the process. You cannot, in fact, "always make more". It's true that I know more about this than many people do, but this is true of any foodstuff, meat, vegetable, or otherwise. Most people know at least that much.
>This is how any reasonable person is going to see it. Not everyone is a honey expert.
Um, no. Not everyone is a honey expert, but any reasonable person understands that beekeeping, and the products thereof, are not insignificant. You're the one being unreasonable about this, not OP: honey is not toilet paper.
I do think that OP may have flown off the handle a bit much, but he was basically correct.
>>You realise that honey can be quite expensive, right?
>No one else knows this.
Everyone who buys their own food knows this. Honey is not some exotic foodstuff in most of the world.
It happens a lot actually. And even then you can feel the effort put into making a chair. No one gives a shit about bees making honey for you. Its insignificant as fuck and even though you think you put a lot of effort into it, literally no one else thinks that. Sure they would be misinformed according to you, but this is the world you live in. try educating people on how honey collecting is a real thing and not some insignificant replaceable jar.
books are not easily replaceable. You analogy fails immediately. did you even try.
He was correct, but in overreacting to this he made her the victim. Sure she stole your honey but she doesn't think it's a big deal, so she will feel your reaction unjustified and most people will agree with her. I'd have explained to her that the honey was mine and that it was important to me. If it happens again, she is untrostworthy and doesn't respect the boundaries you set. But as you saidy you overproduce honey and sell some anyway, so it can't be this hard to forgive her if it only happens this once.I'm not saying it's an insignifcant item, but it definitely doesn't seem something to get very angry about.
Food is expensive, not homegrown food. You know how many people steal from gardens. What I mean by expensive is what you lost to acquire it. How expensive it is for him to get the honey. Guess what. It cost nothing and needs no effort according to most people.
>new bf is into beekeeping
>keeps all the honey in jars
>tell my friends and family about him and his beekeeping
>"oh that sounds cool! you should get us some if it's ok with him"
>"I'm sure it'll be fine, he has dozens of jars and gives them away to family and friends"
>give a few jars away thinking it's not a big deal
>bf finds out
>loses his temper in an autistic fit of rage
>"MY PRECIOUS HONEY HAS BEEN DEFILED WITH YOUR WHORE HANDS!! YOU CAN NEVER COME BACK UNLESS IM WATCHING YOU THE WHOLE TIME!!!!"
>seriously, it's just honey
Bro its a toilet paper roll. Are you fucking seriously mad? Try having a roommate and you can see the logic of how people think.
Hell what do you think goes through people's mind when they eat others food.
>Um, no, actually, he can't.
Um, yes, he can. My roommate brews mead. Guess what he does, makes more. I would use his hobby as a way of making everyone laugh at how much effort hes putting into something so silly.
>any reasonable person understands that beekeeping, and the products thereof, are not insignificant.
You cant be serious. Hate to break it to you be bee keeping is an insignificant hobby to most.
Its unreasonable to you because you understand the effort he put in. But no one else does and you cant expect them to nor care unless you explain it to them.
You I just realized that no ones fucked you up for taking shit that's not yours.
Your a man child
Some nigga be taking my mead I'd be decking his face in and getting some dough.
Your luck your peeps are faggots cause real people wouldn't tolerate this.
Id inform her how important the shit is and what it takes so that she can understand the importance of the effort Im putting into this.
Not being a flaming faggot and raging because someone doesnt understand. Trust me, Ive had it much worse than you
I started playing with circuits in highschool. You think my mom knew how important and irreplaceable that headphone speaker was for me. Someone without a way to replace it. Yeah I was a child like OP and threw fits. Then I learned to communicate like an adult and tell her that she cant go throwing my shit away no matter how insignificant she thinks it is because its important to me. And when you phrase it that way people actually listen.
You call me a tool but thats because you are just a child.
Did I say i was taking it. Thats just you being a faggot and projecting now. Youre such a faggot you cant even read. And good luck challenging me to a fight. I would love for you to try and take me out. Would make me happy actually.
Your mom owns your pad she'll throw away your shit happens to everyone.
My mom and my gf are 2 different things see my mom gave me life my gf gives me pussy I think the scales are drastically tipping in favor of my mother.
Mom gave something important my gf has only given me pussy and companionship still not in the same level.
My time is important and someone like my gf touching my stuff whether she know or doesn't is an issue that I have to take care of. It's like she owns my stuff which she does not.
>happens to everyone
Exactly, which is why you should have learned to handle things like this with your mother instead of spazzing out now.
Who the person is doesnt change the act.
>It's like she owns my stuff which she does not.
Bro no one gives a shit about who owns insignificant things. No parent thinks they own stuff when they through your things away. Just that its insignificant.
It's not about how expensive or significant honey is, but the fact that his girlfriend takes his shit without asking, not even because she needs it but just to give it away. How are so many people defending that?
But thanks for the giggles op, best thread I've seen in a long time
>My roommate brews mead. Guess what he does, makes more.
He can do that. I could too. But we have the luxury of being able to buy our honey, which we do from commercial providers with large enough operations that they can lay in big stores, and sell them even when it's out of season. An amateur with a couple of hives in his backyard is not going to be able to do that.
>I would use his hobby as a way of making everyone laugh at how much effort hes putting into something so silly.
So in addition to being willfully ignorant, you're also a bully. Good to know, I guess. One less reason to respect you.
>any reasonable person understands that beekeeping, and the products thereof, are not insignificant.
>You cant be serious. Hate to break it to you be bee keeping is an insignificant hobby to most.
You know, I despise PETA. For many of the same reasons I'm having trouble respecting you, in fact. But perhaps they're onto something when they complain that people have become too cut off from the way their food is produced.
>Its unreasonable to you because you understand the effort he put in. But no one else does and you cant expect them to nor care unless you explain it to them.
I don't expect people to understand the intricacies of beekeeping. I learned about it in order to better understand some of my own interests, but I understand that those interests aren't something a lot of people share. Frankly, most people don't need to inderstand the minutiae. But I do think it's fair to expect people to understand that it takes a lot of effort: if nothing else, I'd expect people to figure that out just from the prospect of working with thousands of bees in a regular basis.
It doesn't matter in the slightest how expensive it is or how much effort it takes to make.
If you take shit that isn't yours without asking you're a thief.
Do you think anything that people haven't explicitly told you not to steal is okay to steal?
It costs nothing to you because you still live with your parents.
Honey is extremely costly to purchase or produce. This isn't simply about money but time and effort. You're being retarded.
No I dont live with my parents nor do I go around buying honey because like everyone else I consider it an insignificant item.
>time and effort
Im sure you think you time and effort into your stupid hobby is important, but no one else does.
Try suing her for your stolen honey and see how many fucks no one gives lol.
Its not stealing if its insignificant. If he cant explain the importance of the honey making process or if she just refuses to listen then they shouldnt be together, but it definitely sounds like OP went full autistic mode here over some honey lol. Its cracking me up just thinking about it.
She stole from you. She can't be trusted. it doesn't matter that it's just honey (for real though, are you a bear? These are bear problems) it's a principle thing. Some people steal, some people don't.
What he fck is going on in this thread ?!
Clearly OP, you're in your right mind. I mean who fucking cares if honey is cheap insignificant. It's something OP cares about and which is important for him. And she took it without permission, I mean that's something he cares about, you can't compare this to toilet paper ?! Wtf ? He doesn't like to make fcking toilet paper and sell them to his friends ?! Jeez
>Its not stealing if its insignificant
I can tell you're a piece of shit. It's just a difference in personality. Some people don't steal. Some people will steal and sneak and lie and cheat just as much as they think they can get away with. It's "insignificant" if you think you won't be caught, or if you're betting the victim will just decide it isn't worth a confrontation. But you're not trustworthy, you're not honest. When I see this in people I socialize or do business with, that's it. I start slowly phasing them out of my life.
>These are bear problems
I am laughin
OP dump her ass and find someone that appreciates and respects you
OP, you're not in the wrong.
I don't get what you're trying to point out here, I'd be pissed if the person I was dating was taking my toilet paper and handing it out to who the fuck ever.
Thieves almost never think that what they're stealing is significant for the person they took it from. If it's a car, he'll tell himself that person can just buy another one, since he had enough money to get one already. If it's a wallet, he'll tell himself stealing $200 isn't going to ruin anyone. The moment you tell yourself "It's not a very expensive item so I have the right to steal it" you just turned into a piece of shit.
For anything uncommon or weird like that, socially awkward or stupid moments of fuckery can happen in anybody where we cross a line that we never realized was there.
She probably wasn't thinking straight. Assume the best about your partner before you lose trust in them. Assume it was an honest absent minded mistake.
CORRECT HER. Establish the consequence of doing it again, then move the fuck on.
You would be perfectly in the right to kick her out if you told her this once and she did it again. She has no exuses that time, but ignorance is a perfectly valid excuse in this case.
You are being a dick. You should apologize.
>we cross a line that we never realized was there
>She probably wasn't thinking straight
>honest absent minded mistake
>You are being a dick. You should apologize.
>she (an adult) snuck into his storage, stole his stuff, gave it to other people, all without asking permission or even mentioning it
I know the word gets overused these days, but guys like you are the reason "cuck" gets used as an insult
Do we just pick insults at random now.
Significance varies from person to person. As OP obviously finds his honey important but his gf (and the rest of the world) doesnt. If you hobby isnt really respected in general such as something stupid like bee keeping, then people are going to consider it insignificant. You can try to change their mind or go austist mode like OP and give your hobby a bad rep.
Its not stealing if its insignificant. Get over it.
You are actually a person with autism I am assuming. You have to understand that not everyone sees the world as you do. Fortunately we have this thing called language where we try to work out our problems. If you want people to be in your life you have to be understanding so they understand you. You only become the villain when you act like this and Im willing to be this isnt the first time something like this has happened in your life. You have to learn how to handle situations like a functioning member of society.
How convenient that *you* get to decide whether something you steal from someone else is significant or not. I bet you're the kind of asshole who steals his coworker's lunches out of the fridge. Because fuck them, you are hungry at the moment and too lazy to get your own food, so them not having lunch is not "significant." That's why that poster called you a narcissist; it's a perfectly fitting insult for someone who sees their needs as the most important, and any one else's needs as "insignificant."
Also, I guess your mommy and daddy didn't tell you this, but it's wrong to steal. If you shoplift a pack of gum from the convenience store, it's a small item but it's still stealing. Don't kid yourself.
Uh, it's right in the DSM-V, "unwilling to identify with or recognize the needs of others" plus the bonus "interpersonally exploitative i.e. takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends." From what you've posted in this thread you have two of the required five symptoms on that bingo card.
Ooooh, boy, it's not "legally" wrong, lemme just catch my eyeballs before they roll right out of my head. Neither is cheating on your spouse, you dumb shit, but plenty of people agree that cheating makes you a garbage human being. It's morally and ethically wrong, just as it is morally and ethically wrong to steal.
So, you steal your coworkers' lunches Y/N?
Even though that a lot of psychology is simply bullshit assumptions, we all know the real reason why you say psychology is bullshit is because you've been diagnosed with a disorder you can't accept tripbag.
For starters you need unessary attention, for 1 you're a trip fag on an anonymous site.
Fairly reasonable. It's your product, your food. It would be one thing if she used some of it to make a dish for the two of you, but this is the equivalent of a woman taking food out of my pantry and giving it to her friends under the table if not worse from my perspective.
>Its not stealing if its insignificant.
Are you retarded
You seem to be extremely invested in the idea that it's ok to take peoples product without asking. Maybe you should start bringing your own lunch to work friend.
>what is petty theft
If you're stealing something, apparently it has value to you. Why try playing it down and belittling someone when they call you out for being an inconsiderate douche?
Why waste your breath when you could steal other meaningless shit in the mean time?
>missing the point he made on purpose
You know, I'm not that guy, and I've never seen a reason to call you out because you're generally benign, but you should at least be self aware that it's more of a flaw that you desire to be known on a relatively anonymous website.
Regardless of whatever way you want to twist that, I think you should try to stop being as defensive towards legitimate criticism.
I also apologize for whatever horrible change in your life that caused you to come back to the vice of tripfagging.
To you personally you're saying, some fucks old cheese he would die for is wothless to you, by the same venue a man steals you're car and burns it since he thinks it's a shit wothless car, therefore you are ascribing ethics to monetary value which is obviously wrong you dumb fucking nigger
If its not easily replaceable then its not worthless.
Hate to break it to you but this honey is not one of a kind and significant in any way other than the effort put in that no one gives a fuck about.
You had one job. One job.
You are so defensive you can't physically respond confidently with a "No." You can't even muster one anonymous guy to back you when "everyone else" agrees.
I dont know what point you are trying to make. But if you have something significant to say then say it.
Im not about to let you side track me. No one thinks honey is significant and its not stealing if its insignificant.
Op cares and his gf stole it.... It has sentimental value which in a relationship is worth significantly more and harder to forgive, if you can't see that you may be severe autistic famalam
No one gives a shit about honey. Theres no sentimental value for it. If OP is a freak with sentimental value for honey he should make it clear so his gf can know shes dealing with a freak. But no one is going to assume hes a freak with sentimental value for honey.
>gets cornered by the basis of all his previous posts: 'everyone else agrees that petty theft (aka taking 'insignificant' items without permission) is okay'
>don't sidetrack me
I wish you were a troll, but this isn't a meme or a creative argument.
And yeah, taking something insignificant is still stealing. By law, and definition. Keep telling yourself that though.
And I like honey. Fresh honey is especially delicious. Pretty sure people who reply acknowledge the intrinsic value of freshly cultivated honey. Why can't you?
Or am I sidetracking you again?
Ive been saying the same thing the entire time. Do you have a point to make or not.
>Pretty sure people who reply acknowledge the intrinsic value of freshly cultivated honey
Your autism is showing. No one gives a fuck about this.
The thing is you dont get to decide what people ascribe personal value to.
She knew OP made honey and put time and effort into it, im a painter if somebody took my artwork i put my time into I'd be pretty pissed, it literally does not matter how mundane or stupid you think somebodys hobby is, it matters to them
The fact that you cant even conceptualize other people having non material feelings is deeply frightening, so heres a hot tip: anything you spend your own personal time towards gains some emotional value for good or ill
Its part of whats called being a human being you miserable person
>Honey has value everywhere
Insignificant value. Businesses are based on selling in bulks large enough to make it significant. A penny is worthless and no one gives a fuck about 1. But if you have 100 million then it matters.
>literally everybody in thread saying that homegrown honey = not ok to steal
>"nobody gives a fuck about this, nobody cares about honey"
are you literally retarded? dont steal peoples shit, especially stuff they personally make and spend time making you doofus
>The thing is you dont get to decide what people ascribe personal value to
You actually do because thats how society functions. I value my time, doesnt mean I can sue you for wasting it. No one gives a fuck if its insignificant. We have all come to a general agreement on what is significant and what is not in society. If you have a case for something insignificant that you want others to see the importance of you have to make it first and not assume anyone else is going to care.
>Businesses are based on selling in bulks large enough to make it significant.
You can literally say this about anything, that's not an argument. Whether the value is small or big, she stole it.
Yes, you can say that about anything insignificant. If you cant easily replace what you took then it has value. I cant easily replace 100 million pennies. But I can definitely replace a few because they are insignificant.
Things in bulk have value that they dont in small amounts. Take the air you breathe. Theres no value to the air around you but if you stole all the air and hoarded it for yourself itd definitely change.
It is stealing. The reason this wouldn't go to court though is because court costs about as much as a shitty used car. It wouldn't be worth the time or the money. But if you're rich and you actually didn't give a shit, you would win in court because you fucking stole it.
Hey anon, just a sidenote is it ok to cheat?
because legally its ok, and you cant sue me for it.
How about being really passive aggressive to strangers?
Taking up two seats on a bus?
just being as genral as a dick as you can withought anybody having legal recourse?
Because it seems like you just want free reign to be a horrible person, and thats ok but you just got to admit it, cause you allready admitted to taking peoples shit, making fun of your freinds to thier face and swiping lowkey shit on the sly
You keep harping on "legally wrong" and lawsuits. That's completely outside of this discussion.
1) things can be morally and ethically wrong yet not "legally wrong" e.g. adultery, petty fucking theft like taking your coworkers lunch
2) someone taking something from someone else that has value to them, although maybe not as much value to someone else, falls into this morally/ethically wrong category
3) as it is morally/ethically wrong, people get pissed about it, like OP
There are two sides in this, people who understand that taking whatever you want whenever you want it is bad for society, and entitled shitbags like you and OP's gf. Petty theft is destructive to the social contract.
DO YOU STEAL YOUR COWORKERS LUNCHES Y/N?
Are you saying its not significant enough to take to court. Is that perhaps because it is insignificant and no one gives a fuck.
Supermarket has a security force whos job it is to care. You literally have to pay someone to care about something insignificant. Its too insignificant to take anything around a security guard.
No, its not. because its insignificant. Sue me and we'll see if the law agrees with you.
OP is just a freak and should have informed his gf he was a freak before hand. Everyone assumes its insignificant. OP is a freak for giving it significance and should express that if he wants others to respect it.
>thats just like your opinion man
You cant just call another persons hobby stupid, you're stupid you doublenigger, those are subjective opinions instead of facts, stop treating your feelings like a universal constant
>You cant just call another persons hobby stupid
Not stupid. Just insignificant. It is stupid but that has no place in this conversation.
Its not a universal constant, just the general opinion of the public. Accept that no one gives a shit about bee keeping.
>throwing away lent is stupid and socially awkward
You can only find these people on 4chan
>my opinions are FACTS, the post: the movie; based on the book; taken from the famous post: starring anon as the faggot in a phenomenal lifelike performance 9/10 stars
Your opinons are insignificant, let me hang out with malt maker bro, he seems much nicer than you i bet he wouldnt swindle my honey and sperg out about how it was ethically ok as he ate it while laughing
Just my opinion:
She saw the jars of extra honey, took them to do something nice for her friends and family, didn't consider that a)regardless of them being "left over" they're still your property and b) she should have got your permission first.
She fucked up. She's in the wrong. You get to be angry. However, she didn't break into your house and steal your wallet and your TV, she gave away from extra jars of honey to her family.
Explain the above to her, and if she's apologetic, forgive her and move on.
Society also thought that eating albinos gained you magic powers
Society also thought that owning slaves and beating them to death was ethically ok
nigga you a dumb motherfucker, society aint jack shit, if i care about honey you best respect my respect of honey because if i found out you nabbed it ill take somthing i deem insignificant back like the monetary value back in your shit since you cant sue me either.
>if i care about honey you best respect my respect of honey
Or what, you are going to cry to the society that doesnt give a shit about you. Significance is ascribed by society. If no one gives a fuck its insignificant. If you want society to change there mind try having a peaceful assembly of bee keepers and maybe society might have a few fucks to give.
op your reaction and handling of the situation was completely fine. Please dont listen to beta enablers posting that you're in the wrong because they're pathetic husks of men who are too terrified of loneliness to call women out on their bullshit.
Once again, im not going to cry to society, im going to either take it back or take some of your shit.
How hard is it to comprehend personal accountability? When you take something somebody values, you instigate something with them personally, not a difficult idea desu.
Society aint going to stop either of us, because they dont care about either of our shit you dumb faggot.
>If i value my honey at 20 bucks and you take 4 jars I cant sue, but i can take 80 dollars worth of your stuff and you cant either, or i tell everybody anons a guy who'll steal all your stuff he thinks he can get away with for some reason, and people start avoiding you like the plauge because belive it or not, people dont like it when you unashamedly take things people own. Just like how people HATE the office theif and the luch theif with a passion
>I'd break up with her.
Said autismo foreveralone.
You guys are so fucking autistic it hurts. You really don't understand the least how a healthy relationship with two healthy people work. Communication love and understanding each other. You'll never get to the point where two people become one in soul, where they help and nurture each other, where they grow up together to become adults and life's not about them anymore but their very own proof of love, their kids.
But society agrees with me, everybody thinks you're a fag when they find out you take peoples shit withought any shame or guilt
Sorry man, insignificant or not, everybody hates that guy
>this fag actually thinks society gives a shit about honey
Oh man Im crying here. Okay. Go tell all you friends you probably dont have. Im sure you have at least one bee keeper friend who will share your delusion with you. Im cracking up. Thanks for the laughs. Its rare to see someone this autistic on here.
I'm a different anon.
Literally your entire argument rests on the fact that 'honey is insignificant'. This is retarded. Whether the item is significant or not, it's still theft. Regardless of what the fuck the item even is. You may not consider it very important theft, or the courts and police may not, but it's theft.
Now lets say that by some miraculous chance I'm OP and I don't personally consider it to be theft. I'd still be mighty pissed because what the gf has done is just shown the basest lack of respect towards him by taking some of his shit without asking. This is something you tell 5-year-olds to do.
Hell look at this post which illustrates the 'common sense hurr durr' view which you espouse: >>16886788
>"oh that sounds cool! you should get us some if it's ok with him"
>"IF IT'S OK WITH HIM"
It's not fucking unreasonable to expect the person to be aware his shit is being taken.
>"I'm sure it'll be fine, he has dozens of jars and gives them away to family and friends"
>"I'm sure it'll be fine"
Unless you are severely autistic and have crippling social anxiety, this is not an excuse to not ask your bf if you can take something of his. Actually, not even then.
Fuck, you're retarded.
>I literally cannot ask permission before i take something
>huh, thanks for the food, nothing personal....kid
And then all the
>TFW no girlfriend
I hate the fact that they can't get their own shit life together and still think they have any right to give their autistic advice to ppl seeking help.
>Am I being unfair?
Depends if you guys have been going out for a couple years (I say 4 but others may look at it differently) then she's within some parameters to take a couple things to use.
If you met her in the past six months then she's crossing the line.
With the way bees are going extinct now you are sitting on a goldmine. Tell her to knock that shit right off. If she wants honey she's gotta help you do the job.
Way to ignore the point and the entire second half of my post, autismo
>Which is addressed by the fact that its insignificant.
Only in your own demented little mind. Reasonable people understand that theft has nothing to do with how "significant" the item is.
noun: theft; plural noun: thefts
the action or crime of stealing.
"he was convicted of theft"
gerund or present participle: stealing
take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it.
"thieves stole her bicycle"
>Did she permission?
>Did she have the legal right?
No, the honey is his. They're not even married where you could argue that she has a conjugal right.
>Did she intend to return it?
Start taking a dollar from a friend without their permission every time they hang out. Do it right in front of their eyes.
I think OP sounds really god damn autistic, but its still taking something away from someone without permission and giving it to someone else.
Maybe his girlfriend is autistic too, for not understanding this, in which case they belong together.
>Supermarket has a security force whos job it is to care. You literally have to pay someone to care about something insignificant. Its too insignificant to take anything around a security guard.
Retarded. The value is already there, as no one would pay a security guard to protect something that has no value.
See: No security guards protecting weeds and dogshit on the side of the road.
God damn, these autistic ideas from you guys are killing me.
>Supermarket has a security force whos job it is to care. You literally have to pay someone to care about something insignificant.
So because people care enough to pay people to guard it, it's insignificant?
You know what? I take back what I said. You're not demented. You're just a bad person.
>No, its not. because its insignificant. Sue me and we'll see if the law agrees with you
I have no reason to believe you've ever taken anything from me, "significant" or otherwise. This means I have no legal standing to sue you: a fact which has nothing whatsoever to do with whether or not stealing "insignificant" items constitutes theft. So I'm afraid I cannot accept your challenge as valid proof of anything whatsoever.
You claim the law agrees with you. Cite the law. You claim society agrees with you. Cite the polls. It's not difficult.
No but seriously, everyone should stop and let this thread die. I think OP got the advice he needed, and it seems pretty obvious that the one person here arguing with you all is a massive bait.
He hasn't responded to any of the points that are actually the end of his line of reasoning, or provided any thing meaningful.
Not to mention how much his argument depends on circular logic.
Agree with you, she is a cunt for stealing from him
and should be severely punished. I see no other option but the death penalty. Alternatively, she could become a beekeeper herself, and produce honey which she will give to him until she has paid back what she owes...
Ctrl + F "honey"
More than 100 matches lmaoooo
>>I dont know the difference between judicial and legislative
>Proving autism I see.
Um, no. You only said "the law", which any reasonable person would assume meant statute. No autism there.
If you meant case law (which is what I think you mean by "judicial"), then very well: cite the case.
>If its insignificant it isnt stealing.
Yes, it is. You are not Jean Valjean.
Google petty theft.
What you're essentially saying is that as long as someone takes everything in your house one tiny piece of wood at a time, they haven't actually stolen any of your furniture.
I'm curious now, could you give me a list of ten items you consider insignificant enough to steal? What about ten items that are only just significant enough to not steal? Where exactly is this line in the sand?
A cup of instant coffee
My shirt with a hole in it
My socks with a hole in it
My girlfriends hairband
>just significant enoug
An entire pot of instant coffee
My dirty painting pants
A bike repair kit
My souvenir Rocks
My homemade cider
A little trash can
Mini USB plug
Unfinished warhammer Models
I am not even the guy you were arguing with. You're just being a pedantic small minder cuck