>>16829282 Although I've had them for awhile, it may be best to opt for a normal life. (Or atleast I think..)
Since 8.. >Always think of self as a woman in future reference >Pretended to be a girl online for years since I was young because it felt more comfortable >Chose only girl characters and drew only females >out to family, friends and girlfriend >Girlfriend and I go out from time to time so I can get a feel for the future
I don't feel I need to transition to validate liking girl things by becoming a "man in touch with femme side". I read something about "Intersex" people that I may identify with, but I feel this is just another mental pitfall to get trapped in.
>>16829348 >I've been to a therapist and unfortunately all they really did was enable it.
Thats the ethical thing to do in the overwhelming majority of cases. Conversion therapy doesn't work and trans folks have startlingly high suicide rates. Besides, its not my job to talk you out of shit.
This is how I felt for a LONG time, too. I picked male characters in games, I pretended to be a male (online) for 7-8 years.. Came out to my Parents but at the time Mom denied it and said I wasn't. Later on as she became more into Christianity, she said she'd "pray for me" and it made her cry when I said I was interested in women. She'd beg for me not to have sex with another woman because I'd burn in hell for it.
I mean.. It was her reaction that bothered me the most. Not because OH NO I MADE MOMMY CRY but because I wouldn't have the support I would have needed.
Have you considered purchasing female clothing? If you wear it when you're at home by yourself you might feel satisfied for a while, and maybe work up the courage to do it in public too, along with whatever transitional stuff you'd want to do.
>>16829367 so? why do people who realize that they weren't trans try to speak for everyone else
I SAW THE LIGHT WHY COULDN'T ANYONE ELSE because you're you and they are themselves
everyone who uses this argument just sounds like those that tell depressed people who think that they may have depression that Everyone has that phase and that they're not really depressed, not because they want to be encouraging or wish well for them but because they hate it when people are mentally ill. what the fuck is wrong with wanting to be happy?
>>16829367 I know.. I can't tell if it's the lack of support or if I've been conditioned by her and my father believing it's a phase. I can't tell if it help me put things in perspective, or seriously messed up my mental health. Or maybe it was tarnished to begin with..
What did you decide to do?
>>16829383 I've got a whole wardrobe of female clothes, and I go out in public almost half of the week.
A few pictures of myself : http://imgur.com/a/40PGY
>>16829442 I certainly don't think it's a big deal, but society does. Though it's not just clothes hormones too.
I know what you mean, for some reason repressed people seem to make a bigger deal about them being trans than when they accepted themselves. I want to avoid that so the past few weeks I've been clawing like crazy to find myself, I don't want to walk the middle line forever.
I want to go with the flow, but I also want my family to be comfortable around me.
>>16829490 Hi OP. Thanks for not being a cunt about my post; I greatly appreciate it.
What I did? I don't know.. It just.. faded away, really. I'm not sure if I was motivated by the lack of support, or if it just really was a phase for me... Getting a lover helped me also, to be honest. He supports me in everything I do, but when I look at him.. I don't want to be a male anymore.
I'm sorry I'm not much help, OP. If it means anything, you are lovely and VERY convincing; I've seen my share of trans mtw who screamed that they were beautiful and feminine and sexy but decided to keep the beard. It was confusing to say the least... But you rock the look.
>>16829527 It's okay, I'm not really looking for specific responses in this thread, just hoping something will stick to the wall. If anything, sorry if any information gets lost in translation or by order, today had been a rough one. I've got a girlfriend, but we've done more working *towards* the situation.
Thanks ! A lot of things are lined up on the trans side, but when I think about family reactions, it being a phase, I just cringe hard and get overwhelmed by all the decisions.
>>16829731 >between ages 8 and 20 How do you explain a vast majority of peoPle who come out in their mid thirties then after all of the oppression? Not to mention these men are usually married with a few sons. They've also tried to ignore and repress these feelings by excercising and other "masculine" activities. Eventually they come back to it
I was going to address some other things but I think that example alone was enough to void that post ..
>>16829766 I actually post on both of those boards to help me gauge how well I'm passing, probably why I didn't worry too much. But on those boards I just get attention and compliments on how well I look or what I can change, right now I don't even know if transitioning is what I want. I wouldn't have posted them if I knew they were going to make a big deal, but if all else fails at least it's a closer glimpse at my situation Thank you though
I am for telling each others lies so we can sleep well at night. You, me, do that. And its fine. How else would we cope with life and go on?
Thing is, faggots like you try to make these kind of things like if they were a big deal when they arent. Like if it was the ''discussion of the century'' an ''endless fight to achieve the long awaited freedom of the transexuals from an oppressive society''.
However, this is not the case. Its a fad thats becoming more and more apparent because of its popularity and how hard media is pushing it (for some reason?)
In reality, its just something built upon foundations made out of lies, like everything else. And you are not as important, nor people really care about you, as you think you are.
Sure, people here will give you attention (proven by the amount of answers), but then again look were you are.
>>16829868 yes, it's a fad because trans people in history have had their identities erased (similar to those that argue sappho was actually bi and not a raging dyke)
>In reality, its just something built upon foundations made out of lies, like everything else. babby nihilist detected
also it never was about seeming more important or colorful or interesting, it's to be respected and seen as a human being lmao but i guess you wouldn't understand that being an oh so enlightened equal opportunity "i'm not an asshole i hate everyone equally!!" offender fuck off faggot
>>16829800 >How do you explain a vast majority of peoPle who come out in their mid thirties then after all of the oppression?
They lived 30 years as one gender, failed as human beings and obtain a "grass is greener on the other side" mentality.
Gender is not fluid. Gender is not an outfit you can change when you get bored of it. Gender is a genetic fact of your existence and nothing will ever change or alter it. Attempts to do so will only result in mutilated penises, demolished hormonal balances and inevitable suicide.
You want honest advice? Stop being a retard and invest in being a faggot. If you like wearing girl's clothes then wear them. If you like putting on make-up then do it. Just don't make horrible life decisions that any medical practitioner will tell you is beyond stupid.
Lel, bet you were dying to use words, awaiting the oportunity to sound profound.
However, you are wrong. I am in no way a nihilist.
>also it never was about seeming more important or colorful or interesting
Events about the subject and the people partaking in them prove you wrong.
>enlightened equal opportunity
I am in no way enlightened. But I do know why you say that right out of the bat. My post gave you the wrong idea, you probably found your own ''enlightment'' threatened so you use this opportunity to come here and show me the ''true way'' with your words.
And no, theres no such a thing of equal opportunity. Some people are, simply, more than others.
>"i'm not an asshole i hate everyone equally!!"
I dont see why I wouldnt be an asshole. Nor I see why it would be wrong to be and hate others.
>>16829939 The dictionary says gender is the state of being male or female. How can you be male or female without physically being male or female?
You people are just making shit up. It doesn't matter how much a male want to be a female HE WILL NEVER EVER EVER EVER BE FEMALE and vice versa. Humans have similar bone structures to most other mammals but that doesn't make us species-fluid. I'm not part dog because I think I'm a dog and I have a femur and tibia like a dog. You're not fucking female because you identify as female and take estrogen and cut your dick up to look similar to a vagina
also, what would a person with cais be? they're genetically male, but are phenotypically female. where would this sit on the binary for you, are you going to try to argue that an intersex person with cais is a man?
>>16829868 >you're not important >this isn't the discussion of the century >this is only some popular fad in media (???)
Look, I don't want attention. Nor is this the pinnacle of my entire life but a speedbump in the road towards the beginning of it, and figuring myself out.
>Sure, people here will give you attention (proven by the amount of answers), but then again look were you are.
Replying to posts like this?
>>16829888 >"grass is greener on the other side" mentality. Is this necessarily a bad mentality to have? Some might say this is how many make everyday decisions in the first place..
Don't YOU weigh pros and cons?
Gender fluidity is a weird subject. NO gender fluidity does not exist when you are going to have sex with someone. You will need to accept that you were born with male genitals. It does exist in all other areas though such as ass, tits, face, all secondary features. What do you think "passing" is, anon? If gender in those areas are not fluid, certain men should not be able to have the spitting image of a female
I like wearing clothes, and putting on makeup. As far as I would go is hormones so that I wouldn't end up aging like a man as my life progressed (receeding hairline, bulkier bones and muscles, deeper voice, rougher skin, etc.)
Is it really so bad for me to let my body naturally react to differently balanced hormones in my body?
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