My boyfriend wants to stick it in my butt so I said I would but only if he let me fuck his butt with a strap-on (this is my fetish) and he refused and said I'm being unfair.
Am I being unfair? I thought it was pretty fair, butt for butt.
how bout you let him do it once, and then tell him you want to enjoy too.
Imho, try putting fingers with saliva around his back area, once he's comfortable enough, go for it. Also might wanna do it with fingers and toys before.
You're being unfair if you just made it up as an arbitrary price to pay. He's sharing a sexual interest of his with you. It's not a transaction. It's being open with your lover. If you don't want to oblige him then just say so. Otherwise you can consider for yourself whether you're on board for being part of your boyfriend's sexuality. And if pegging really is a legitimate fetish which SOMEHOW didn't become a hot button issue until he brought up one of his, well, talk about it like adults.
i guess technically because you have a vag & hes got a dick you are biologically on the receiving end of dicktype apparatus, its kinda your thing
but if we're talking biology then we also have to admit butt stuff isnt exactly the intended purpose
I don't think it's unfair. If you want to fuck someone in the ass which no matter what you say, is an unnatural and rough experience no matter what your gender is. Your asshole just wasn't made to get fucked even if you're a girl. The least you could do is reciprocate.
You should quit spouting pseudo-scientific bullshit. Gay sex, for example, is perfectly natural. It is found in many species, other than humans.
>wasn't made to get fucked
How can i get my bf to get over this? I've already managed to get him to enjox and relax untill the first knuckle but after that he chickens the fuck out.
>tfw just want to milk his prostata
OP: i think it's a fair deal. He should let you do buttstuff to him too - atleast once to see if he's into it
>Gay sex, for example, is perfectly natural
It's acceptable abnormality; yes it does occur in nature but biologically it's useless, as it doesn't lead to pregnacy and offsprings, ergo doesn't fulfill its role, because sex is for making babies, primarily.
ergo it's bullshit
do you believe in god or evolution? im not being smarmy, i just tailor my responses.
if god, the bible says to maintain sanctity in the marriage, keeping free from unclean habits & maintaining a separation from the attitudes of the world
if evolution, then who gives a fuck about morality, but the statement 'all the time' is an exaggeration, as homosexual or heterosexual butt stuff is usually either a dominance display or a fucking orgy, respectively
i dont really give a fuck about your opinion, this isnt you thread
OP, sex isnt a trade for anything, just talk it out.
Does he know it's your fetish? He might think you're just being coy or indirect.
Anyway, you should do what you can both live with. If he really wants to fuck your butt and you don't mind too much, let him. If you want to fuck his butt but he absolutely doesn't want to, let it go. Like that other guy said, it's not a transaction.
I don't know how to get a male into it, I've only encouraged women to do it (and myself)
Try using a soft SMALL dildo instead of your finger and make him play with himself too
(if you aren't touching his cock at the same time and he isn't experienced he is going to feel awkward)
Like imagine if a guy fingered you but not once touched your clit
>relax untill the first knuckle but after that he chickens the fuck out.
Oh for the love of God.
And he honestly expects you to go forward with a fill-in size dick in your ass? He's not even logical.
Oh, i didn't negelect his dick or balls. He was diamonds. And when he fucks me and i start playing with his ass he cums in a matter of seconds. It's just mental. I dunno why he's so hesistant. Meh, one day...
We haven't done anal yet (only dating fir a few weeks, saving some of the good stuff when extreme vanilla gets too boring). But i have to admit that i'm concerned. He's HUGE and he goes VERY fast when he's near cumming. I can sense a bleeding asshole, lol
Yet he acts like the tip of my finger is the end of thw world. Hell i can't even close my HAND around his dick...
Getting fingered while a girl strokes you is god-tier orgasm
I can't wait to get him to trust me enough to just let me do my thing.
Besides, any good general tips on doing ass/prostata stuff on a guy? Oh, and: i love to rub my bf's perineal area. I adore how you can feel his dick go all the way back and up. Does this feel any good for him or is this area not very receptive to touch?
A "real man" wouldnt want a strap on up his ass.the only people who do that is people that have that fetish (and having this specific fetish doesnt make u a "real man) and people who are STRAPED for cash
Its not that complicated, some guys like the vibrating motion and others prefer the "in and out" motion
Vibrating does nothing for me and its annoying
In and out makes me drool and I love it
Constant pressure on it usually isn't good, kind of go in waves
Well, a strapon seems a bit excessive. But you can't honestly think that licking ass or stucking your finger in is "gay" or "unmanly". It's a part of your body. A very sensitive and sensual part that is. I don't see how enjoying your body would be unmanly. Quiet the opposite
This is totally fair. My opinion might not be qualified though, since i would definitly get pegged if i could.
But i totally think that this is fair, its in his favor if anything. Since you can hit his prostate while doing so, which can cause an awesome orgasm, From what i know females dont have any sexual organs in the rear. I might be wrong though.
I think you should stand by this opinion. If he is man enough to ask you for anal, he should be man enough to get buttfucked himself... wow... that makes no sence... but still... hmm...
Anyways, i think you are right, its all fun and games anyways :)
It is of nature, humans are natural being and such every act we do is natural
The "nature" argument is so easily diffused I'm surprised people still make it
Its basically the equivalent of saying its the current year
alright, lets remove my comment and focus on the one you called pseudo science bull shit.
they literally said:
>but if we're talking biology then we also have to admit butt stuff isnt exactly the intended purpose
it is not exactly the intended purpose of the anus to get fudge punched. its not. you can argue about how if its possible to happen its natural and thats great and all, but its not the intended purpose of an anus. dont get me wrong, im gay, i love butt sex. its great. im very gung ho in appreciation of it. but its not the intended purpose. nothing wrong with that either, im just acknowledging a fact.
>butt for butt
it very well may be, but so is the 'everything humans do is natural' argument
the Chinese got one thing right with the term Tao, there are things that fall into the pattern that existed before we did, & there are things that do not, & there is often a way to perform those that do not that aligns them with that pattern
not that i expect you to give a damn, im waxing historically philosophical on a taiwanese oncology board in a thread about buttfucking
Agreed. Why would anything you can do with just two bodies be "unnatural"? I'm sure even cavemen used to do buttstuff. Babies are very much interested in their anus. It's just that we teach them that it's juck and later the "gay" stigma adds to it. I think it's about time to get it over ith this bull crap. Sex is how adults play. There are no rules as long as everybody is of age and enjoying it
You can't prove evolutionary "intent'
Larmarck showed that pretty well fact pretty well
That's baseless anthropomorphism to say "intended purpose"
You're entire argument is nonsense
you also can't prove theres no god, so good luck with that.
we poop from our butts. that is an intended purpose. just cuz we CAN make ourselves vomit doesn't mean were supposed to be able to.
but go ahead and believe that science want syou taking even more cock up there.
It's not necessary for reproductional purpose, sure. But we are also the only species (besides dolphins if i recall that right) that has sex for the sake of it and as an enjoyable act. Thus not every sexual act has to have a "reproductive purpose". If you would think this argument trough you'd have to say that every sexual act not acted out on the few days a female is ovulating is "unnatural".
evolution is a bumbling, idiotic force, that technically isnt a force at all, just our name for an accumulation of chaos
but the anus is where waste comes out. the reproductive organs are for making more people. the point of life is to do so. therefore, buttsex is a dead end, & that other guy is shamelessly, happily gay & saying so
honestly i dont care what you do but its not anthropomorphism to say the anus isnt for sex you fucking mong
i will gladly admit that, under these terms that is a correct statement
im not saying its bad, but people get uppity about admitting what you just said
gold star dude, youre alright
>sex is how adults play
This is fucking golden.
Anon we're absolutely designed to be able to vomit. It's the way our body gets rid of spoiled food. If we couldn't do that we'd have to wait until the spoiled food goes through our whole system if we're lucky enough to survive that long.
did you even read the first fucking line? forget the concept of 'natural' were focusing on intended purpose.
also, headsup, we are not the only two species to have sex for fun.
that being said, i did not claim anything about reproductive purpose, just an 'intended purpose'. the anus intention is to release stool. this is fact. that is the intended purpose of the anus. the anus can be traced back all the way to the dinosaur and beyond that. this is what butts are for.
>if oyu would think this argument through you'd have to say that every sexual act not acted out on the few days a female is ovulating is 'unnatural'
wrong again. my argument was what the intended purpose of the anus was for. not even vag. but lets pretend to use your logic.
if women are only ovulating for a few days, and we did not have pleasurable sex, the species would die because we wouldnt be fucking them often enough. pleasure ensures we keep fucking, and that ensures that they will get pregnant on the correct days.
that is the intended purpose of pleasure during sex: guaranteeing we do it enough to get pregnant.
yes, i know we are designed to be able to vomit. the intended purpose is, like you said, vomiting up things we shouldnt be eating.
but that does not mean we are intended to force ourselves to vomit, say, to lose weight. that is not the intended purpose of our gag reflex. its just something we happen to be able to reverse engineer.
>what i know females dont have any sexual organs in the rear.
No, we absolutely don't.
Girls allow anal - very few actually enjoy it. It hurts like fucking hell, and even when the pain dulls down, there's no positive sexual stimulation, except maybe a little in your imagination.
>your hand wasn't intended for jerking off
i agree. your penis wasn't intended to be masturbated.
>why do you masturbate
because its fun. you arent making an argument against me.
my argument was and still is
>the anus was not intended for anal sex
>but its still great and fun and should be enjoyed by anyone who wants to
we werent intended to live in houses or use glasses either, but im not against it in the slightest.
i am just acknowledging scientific fact of what the intended purpose of parts of our body were. not that there is some moral issue that goes along with them.
what is YOUR issue here?
Plenty of girls do! God knows how or why; I have a fucking prostate and I'm still terrified of anal, but I've met plenty and been with at least one. It's fine if you're not one of them.
>to keep their situation healthy
in what sense? i have never heard this. sure we can develop blue balls, but back before consent was a thing i imagine it didnt matter, it was easy enough just to fuck whatever was close to you.
though its an interesting idea id believe it if i read it in a book for sure.
>back before consent was a thing i imagine it didnt matter
Consent was always a thing, in fact it mattered way more before birth control wasn't a thing. Women did not want to impregnated by any old piece of shit, they wanted top specimens.
yeah, but generally speaking you could just over power them. if that woman wasn't over-powerable you'd find one that was.
i imagine you'd have to be pretty bottom shelf to be the only cave person not getting rape-laid
>Gay sex, for example, is perfectly natural
Holy shit I didnt realize fags were this delusional.
Its just as much of an abnormality in those species.
Yes. Do you want to do it or are you just being a bitch trying to deter him.
Either way it is unfair. Sexual intercourse is all about sexual organs entering each other. Dick is vagina. Not some people like dick in ass and it is a form of intercourse. But that being said it is easy to consider anyone with a dick being penetrated as gay. Two many dicks involved.
Whether it's biologically useless or serves a purpose is pretty hotly-debated. Sex serves other purposes than reproduction. Don't speak so confidently on subjects you know nothing about.
Cause it's not the same. Does he make you lick is ass in return for eating you out?
That aside, you prolly came over as being too insecure to say no. He prolly thinks you were passive-aggressively trying to kill the deal.
Also, going tit for tat makes a relationship seem really shallow and trustless desu.
It's only use is in order to establish dominance. Sex only serves other purposes besides those two in animales of higher intelligence, same with self destructive behaviors.
So it is biologically pointless.
what? im not OP, but what?
>cuase its not the same
its literally the same
>i would get pleasure from fucking you in the ass
>i would also get pleasure from fucking YOU in the ass
>THATS NOT FAIR!!1!
how is that not fair?
>does he make you lick his ass in return for eating you out
no, but generally if ones willing to suck a dick, the others willing to eat vag.
>probably thought you were trying to kill the deal
this is possible though. most men dont expect women to be into this sort of thing and he probably thought you were trying to make a point, even if you werent.
>also asking someone to partake in your fetish because he asked you to partake in his fetish is shallow
what? so she should just let a guy fuck her in the ass because wanting to explore her own sexuality is shallow? he opened up and asked for something she wanted. she opened up and asked for something she wanted. he said its unfair. thats how stupid this is.
>it's not the same.
Buttsex is the same no matter what sex you are, you're getting fucked in your poophole. They both work the same, except men have a prostate. In fact men are more meant to be fucked in the ass because of that so maybe they really aren't the same and men are more built to be fucked in the ass.
Either way OP is in the right.
Hard to tell if you're a troll or just retarded.
Can you imagine dating someone who says "you owe me for that one" every time you kiss? Approaching a relationship like it's some fucking bank account that's gotta be balanced is just obnoxious, and it makes you seem not very invested in the whole thing.
Sure no one wants to feel like they're getting exploited, but explicitly keeping score is a real bad sign. And mind you I'm not even saying she's wrong to ask something in return, just that posing it as a condition is a real mood killer, in general. ESPECIALLY when you're dealing with shit like intimacy where telegraphing "I don't trust you" easily kills the appeal.
>It's only use is in order to establish dominance
Na man. Bonobos, one of our closest relatives, have sex to establish friendships, resolve tensions, boredom, for food, etc. Sword fighting, scissoring, orgies, oral. They aren't just having sex to show dominance
If the man ass wasn't intended for buttplay, how come shoving stuff up there is pleasurable? It is not just a fetish thing, it's purely biological. Milking the prostate makes a guy cum like no tomorrow. I don't think any animals, or women for that matter, that has pleasure centers deep inside their anus. But male humans do.
I am a sadist, there is nothing wrong about. Inflicting pain to others is my pleasure.
I spat in my mom's face, I beat the shit out of my sister a thousand times, I hurt my friends. Both physical and psychological pain of others excites me and makes me aroused.
I had a meaningful relationship with a girl I loved and will never stop loving. After a few months of us going out she invited me to a "cup of coffee".
One thing led to another and I was fucking her missionary, I took her hands in one hand and started choking her with the other, she started squirming, spitting, trying to get out of it but I just fucked her harder.
After I came on her tits she threw a fit about charging for rape, how I'm a sicko. I left and never saw her again.
I then found out how stupid the way the world works is and that us, people that accept our traits, will never be accepted in the conservative western society.
It should be a controlled trait, rather than something you let loose. If the world was like how you lived, you'd probably be getting raped by fat, ugly chicks on a daily basis. Find someone who fits you, has the same/similar fantasies. Hell, there are a bunch of things I would love to do that isn't acceptable in society, but there are people just like me and you that would help us fulfill our desires. Yes, society has boundaries, but that's because we are all different, some can handle things better than others and others are just fucking crazy. Society is joke, yes I can agree with you on that, but it's how we stay safe, I guess.
It's one thing to fuck a girl when you've told her of your tendencies and she obliges you, both of you agreeing on a safe word and everything, and it's another to choke her while fucking her when she doesn't know what the fuck's going on. You have issues.
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