Hi /adv/, hope you're all having a nice day. I didn't really know where else to go, so I though I'd just make a thread here.
I am a 20 year old male virgin and I want to completely destroy my sex drive for the foreseeable future. I have already made my mind up about this and there's probably not much you can say that will convince me otherwise but you are welcome to try.
I have already found out that lowering testosterone is one of the best ways of reducing sex drive. This can be accomplished by cardiovascular exercise and avoiding meats such as beef, pork and chicken, which contain high protein levels. Another potential factor is to consume Vitex agnus-castus, also known as Chasteberry or monk's pepper. Apparently this herb has been used since the middle ages to make it easier for monks to remain celibate, something I wish to mimic. There is no "proper" scientific evidence to back this but it's been used for many centuries and has no known adverse effects,
I think accepting the fact that I'll never find love or have sex is an obstacle in the way toward more meaningful goals, and I think I can either eliminate or convert the sexual energy into something better.
If anyone else has had a similar experience then I would love to hear how things went for you, and I will also be happy to answer your questions.
As long as you're lowering your test levels (and not doing some irreversible stupid stuff like balls surgery or something), you should be fine. If you ever feel the need to undo it, you should be able to do it without any major problems.
I admire your courage. I have gave a lot of thought to that idea, and it seems very appealing - but then again, I'm not a virgin and I love female body too much to leave it forever. It's like a drug of some kind for me.
Anything that excludes women.
If you think that women are a meaningful goal on their own, you're probably still 18.
>if you think that women are a meaningful goal on their own, you're probably still 18
>anything that excludes women
first off, gay here, so there's that. but even then, ive been single for 3 years and i frankly just dont date. all my major relationships end because they are not compatible with my life goals.
but with that being said, i actually have life goals. you dont. you make big talk like you're mature for realizing you're too ugly to get women (and there fore they must not be meaningful!!1!) yet you are trying ot base your entire world view around specifically avoiding them.
if you had some actual goals id be inclined to welcome you to the 'pack of one' but when your goals boil down to
>anything that excludes women
you arent actually trying to do anything meaningful. ur just being an edge-lord who DID base all of his life around women before realizing he cant get a cute one.
so good luck with that.
Just look at some good STDs, that'll get you good. Just use the good old mk.I hand.
20 years old is young to be speaking so authoritatively on what you want to do with the rest of your life, in my opinion. i'm 7 years older and even still throughout the course of a day i might think a thousand conflicting, contradictory things. at age 20, i was unsure of everything.
that said, i'm in the same boat as you op and since around your age i've been working on reducing my sex drive. i personally think that 'mental desire' precedes hormonal functionality, i.e., that even if you neuter yourself physically, a mental desire can still remain, even if unfulfilled. this is why older men can lose their ability without losing the mental desire. this results in frustration.
so, what you really need is to remove the mental desire, then the physical will follow. you don't need to change your hormonal balance or anything else but change your mode of thinking. this is contrary to current scientific models of sexuality which see the causality lying in forces out of our control. i think we are living in weird times where the scientific opinion has taken on the respectability that the priestly opinion used to have on common people. we rely too much on what our scientific overlords tell us, even though their views might be totally different in 100 years. thus, i think a healthy dose of skepticism is helpful. there's too much know-it-allness on the internet these days, reciting information without a really solid base in deep thought.
>i actually have life goals. you dont
>you make big talk like you're mature for realizing you're too ugly to get women
>you are trying ot base your entire world view around specifically avoiding them
>you arent actually trying to do anything meaningful
that's a lot of assumptions mate
don't be so bitter, man, i aint that serious as I seem
>thats a lot of assumptions mate
>As opposed to the single assumption you made when being a twat
just remember that of the two of us, only one chooses to be single. the other pretends that anything outside of women is 'meaningful'.
maybe if you took yourself seriously women would too.
I'm not quite sure yet. Pervasive sexual fantasies and thoughts constantly infest my mind so I want to blot them out and be able to think more clearly. Sorry if I'm being terribly ambiguous but that's just the way I see it.
Thank you for encouraging words anon, it is pleasing to see someone who can see some sense in my thoughts. I feel the need to clarify that this idea does not at all stem from any hate of women or sex, but rather from a great degree of personal introspection.
You make some great points anon, but do you not think that with a hormonal change, a mental change will follow? I think so, but I am (at least for now) limiting myself to a reversible condition, I do not want to influct any permanent changes on myself, as I'm sure you can understand.
I'm sorry anon that whatever life experiences that have happened to you make you feel it is necessary to create a lengthy post slandering an completely anonymous internet user for his opinions. Get well soon.
the problem here is that you are acting like you need to have no sex drive in order to have meaningful life goals.
thats not how it works. you either know what you want to do, or you dont. removing sex drive will just make you an asexual with no life goals. they cant be meaningful if you literally cannot list a single goal
I've felt the same at times, it can be very frustrating to be constantly distracted by something so basic and primal as your sex drive. But the truth is you can't switch it off and expect every other part of you to keep working perfectly. You are a combination of many different highly integrated systems.
Remember, you can love things in your life without having sex... And you can have sex without being love too. You don't necessarily have to combine the too. Sex is the most natural form of pleasure, alongside eating, sleeping, taking a shit....
Are you insinuating is is necessary to have a sex drive in order to have life goals?
>removing sex drive will just make you an asexual with no life goals
Because it sure sounds like you are. Whilst I understand where you are coming from, I see my sex drive as an unnecessary obstacle that lies between me and what is actually important. How can you get anything done when you are constantly thinking about sex and fapping?
I'll keep that in mind anon.
This is where the conflict stems from, anon. I couldn't have really said it better myself.
A sex drive is simply a part of the many symbiotic systems that make me, me. Shutting one down could be good or bad, I just need to find out.
no. im implying that that the two are unrelated. on the contrary, you seem to think sex is so fucking important that it cant exist without it taking up your entire life.
you have no life goals. you've admitted to it., you want to find deeper meaning in life and the world and what you do with it, but you have no idea where to start. so you are blaming sex drive.
the entire world has existed with sex drive. successful people are rarely ever asexual. what makes them successful is that they know hot to prioritize their pursuits.
if the world operated the way you claim it does (not being able to get anything done because sex) we'd all just be in one orgy in the streets that never would have been built.
removing your sex drive wont make you realize what you want to achieve in life. it will just make you an asexual who still doesnt know what to do.
I think you are making unfair assumptions, anon. If I held sex in such high esteem, why would I wish to abstain from it? I am not blaming sex drive at all, nor do I blame the people that do.
I realize that my thought may not resonate in some people, that is quite clear, but I do definitely have life goals. Losing my v-card is not one of them, or at least not one I have much intention of completing.
While sex does not take up "a huge portion" of my life, I do consider it to be an unhealthy amount for someone who does not know what to expect.
But thank you for your opinions anon, and apologies if I am frustrating you in any way,
>How can you get anything done when you are constantly thinking about sex and fapping?
I don't know man, ask all the engineers, scientists, businesspeople, writers, entertainers, professors and politicians who manage to have sex lives. Idiot.
>i think you are making unfair assumptions anon
>i am not blaming sex drive at all
except for when you say:
>I see my sex drive as an unnecessary obstacle that lies between me and what is actually important. How can you get anything done when you are constantly thinking about sex and fapping?
if you do have real life goals, tell us what they are. but you insist you cant see them because sex.
I am aware that you have pointed out a possible contradiction, I was being rather brash when I made that comment for which I must apologize. Having a sex drive is not an inherently bad thing, and as the other anon poited out; the engineers, scientists, business-people, writers, entertainers, professors and politicians manage to have sex lives perfectly fine and lead a meaningful life.
Consider this, from a purely logical standpoint, if the purpose of having a sexdrive is to have sex, and I will never have sex, then there is no justification for me to have a sex drive.
Soon, my friend.
You must be trolling hard, so I'm cosidering this while writing.
I didn't read all those replys, all that I have to say is you have to fuck the world before it fucks you.
If you seriously consider that, you are a loser. Fuck woman, accept that they aren't perfect, but neither you will be when castrated.
>toward more meaningful goals
>If anyone else has had a similar experience then I would love to hear how things went for you, and I will also be happy to answer your questions.
I don't think /adv/ is as degenerate as you think.
sure. but you are operating under the assumption that it will make your pursuit of meaningful life goals possible. it wont. it wont even make them possible to figure out.
before you decide to cut off your balls, why not write down what you actually want to do then try to do that? you are saying sexuality is distracting you from doing things you dont even know.
>fuck the world before it fucks you
Happened one day one, friend.
>If you seriously consider that, you are a loser.
I never said I wasn't. If I am am then so be it. It doesn't affect you.
>Fuck woman, accept that they aren't perfect, but neither you will be when castrated.
I have no desire to be perfect.
Why are you even in the thread, anon?
Are you utterly convinced that removing my sex drive will turn me into a useless husk who cannot make critical decisions? I assure you it will not. I have stated earlier in this thread that I have no desire to make permanent changes, I'm not an idiot.
FYI I am not >>16757469
In regards to your question, I did not come here to lust my life goals, nor do I have any intention to make them public. I understand that you are attempting to make me prove that I do infact have at least some life goals, and I assure you that they do exist.
Okay, if you desire so hard to see my life goal list:
1) finish college so I can work as a programmer or programming teacher
2) move out of my parents house
3) have a tour through the europe with my band
4) have the music I produce played at some huge party
5) write a book
I would also love to work on the development of artificial intelligence, but that isn't a specific goal so I didn't put it up there.
I suppose you'll now call me out on how my life goals are meaningless and childish. Do your best.
i dont think their meaningless and childish. i live in hollywodo trying to make it as a writer while managing an office for a psychic. my life is the epitome of imagination.
my issue was that you werent listing any goals at all, and implied that you'd be able to find meaningful goals only after removing your sex drive.
all that being said, you dont need to remove your sex drive. especially considering half of what you are pursuing is art. theres a reason so many songs are about sex and love. those that arent are all about personal development, and if you remove an aspect of your humanity you're only going to make this harder than yourself.
in history, those who removed their sex drives were all religious followers who intended to devote themselves purely to religion, they were aligning themselves with something strictly non human.
im not saying an asexual couldn't produce music, but you have no reason to stop your sex drive. if anything you need to learn to control it. is porn addiction an issue?
i had issues where i was fapping too much and it was slowing down my work progress a loit. now i just fap before bed and its great, all my sexual and creative energy is tied together and then i let it all out before bed.
I'm pretty sure those people just have confidence and goals. Two things you clearly lack, as you seem to think it's impossible for you to have sex (this is purely your mind bullshitting you, also a self-fulfilling prophecy, i suggest discarding it), and at the same time have no dreams, goals, aspirations or endeavours you want to be a part of.
Honestly man, just grow some balls. There's a whole planet full of things to do, places to see, people to fuck, movies to watch, and yet here you are thinking about basically castrating yourself or becoming a monk. It's just sad.
You're 20 fucking years old. Your life has barely started. It's all in your fuckin head mate, I have zero doubt you could get your dick wet if you just tried to stop being a pussy, and tried to get some pussy.
I'm 32 going on 33 OP.
I'm a-sexual, and have zero desire for having sex ever. ( I'm straight, as I'm attracted to women but that's it. )
I couldn't be happier. However, choosing it... I'm not sure that can happen. I didn't really chose my life and no-sex choice.
I've dated plenty of women. But aside from one, they all knew I was never going to have sex with them. I was after the emotional aspects. It worked out for a while. But like most dudes will tell you they want to have sex. I think good girls should put out till 6 months into a relationship. ( This is where most of this cry babies who don't get sex usually have issues. )
If a woman wants to fuck you on the 1st day, 2nd date, 3 week etc. You should as a man, know shes either trying to hard to fill another males ideals put into her head. Or she's literally a slut. Have some pride in yourself, and wait a bit.
But what do I know? Do whatever you want. I'm happier without the drive to fuck and I've done more things with my time that most men sooner or later regret and get too old cause they chase the lose pussy and then find out the baggage wasn't worth the two seconds of wet tunnel feelings.
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( Positives below. )
You will earn e-cred and no faces anons will get angry and jelly for it.
>dreams, goals, aspirations, etc
>grow some balls
pick one nigga
isn't the point of being a man to be realist about life? dreams and goals you know are just self delusions and it doesnt matter on the great scheme of the things you know?
i've been lurking all my life and never discovered something worth. just picking a random goal is meaningless to me.
if i'm fine with this? no, it sucks but there is no option...
Tbh I don't have problem with sex drive, it's just that I'm too fucked up in head to maintain a healthy relationship so I avoid them altogether.
I was just supporting OP in his decision because he really seems like he needs support.
There's a thread going around /adv where this chick has a bf w/ a really small penis. Chick has said she doesn't mind but it's fucking mentally w/ bf. If you're goin do this, please consider donating your penis to this chick's bf.
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