I am gay. I came out to my family, and was promptly disowned. Strangly enough, I moved in to a friends house and fell in love with him. we kissed, then promptly fucked hardcore. I love dicks, men, semen, and the idea of expressing love to a man. but im not gay. what am i?
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>when i think of "gay" i think of someone loving men, semen, and gay sex. i am a man. but i dont do any of these things.
is what "gay" means to you. Didn't you ID yourself as gay when you originally stated:
>I love dicks, men, semen, and the idea of expressing love to a man
Butch gay. In other words the guy who claims to be the straight one in the gay relationship. I hope homosexuals aren't offended by that. Trying to word things correctly. But basically you would be the guy who is all tough and strong and your boyfriend would be the one who is all girly and talkative. Butch gay means looking straight and manly but actually being gay.
i always hate that definition. its just so fucking stupid and is only actually done so that they can feel more secure about themselves.
whats worse is most of these 'straight guys' only ever want to get with other 'straight guys'.
You phrased it just fine, really. It's just that even within the gay community, most people are turned-off and annoyed by the flamboyant queen types, and this makes them bitter. So they get angry and offended by basic observations
that isnt the wrong way to word it, thats the way the culture is, i just get personally annoyed by it. im probably just butthurt cuz i spent all of highschool plying rugby, go camping, play video games, and do all the normal guy stuff, but have been called a sissy faggot just becuase im short and skinny.
also just the inherent stupidity of referring to a gay person as straight just because they are 'butch'. kinda defeats the purpose of having 'gay' or 'straight' and its really only done so these 'straight' guys can feel superior.
that used to be a thing, now they just say 'im str8'. i dont understand why normal is offensive. deviance is celebrated in the gay community.
the issue i have with it is just that they are using words like straight, masc, etc. to make themselves feel superior to the general gay populace (much like a girl saying 'im not like other girls'). they act like being gay is still a sin but they are exempt because they think their voice isnt as faggy as everyone elses (Even if it is)
I think you've misunderstood, its not about feeling superior, its about easily navigating the small dating pool you have.
4% have for many years in private polling identified as gay, that means that 96% of guys you meet are not potential partners from the get go.
Since you don't have to deal with women and their stupid seduction games you can just say what you want so the labels help.
>saying your straight helps you easily find guys to fuck
what? im sorry i think i totally misunderstood what you are saying or something.
if you are posting on a gay app or a gay site saying 'im straight' on your profile doesn't do anything but help you feel better about yourself.
sure it might include a few guys who are closeted like i am, but that doesn't mean i list myself as straight on fucking grindr.
str8 or straight-acting just tells the other person that you don't want fag hags to treat you like a handbag or have a limp wrist. it's not because you actually think guzzing sperm makes you straight.
saying you're discreet will attract other men that are also discreet, and so on.
>saying you are 'straight acting' will tell all the girls on grindr not to be your faghag
pretty sure you're entirely off point. have you ever talked to these people? they really do think they are straight and make a point to announcei t as often as possible, even in real life.
>go to friends
>another guy there
>he keeps talking about how hes straight
>faggiest voice you could imagine
>wraps around his arm my friend 'a couple of straight guys like us are gonna get all the girls'
>i explain that my friend is gay
>'oh i know. but like... we only date girly guys, so we might as well be straight'
its retard logic these guys use to feel superior. if it wasn't they'd settle on 'masc' at the very least, but the fact that they need to say 'IM STRAIGHT' is telling. especially considering most do the 'i only date girls, dudes are for fucking so im straight' shpeel.
i dont talk to gay guys that i intend to have sex with and say 'im straight' because that would be stupid. it doesnt matter if you go camping, play rugby, or are closeted to your other friends, telling a gay guy you are 'straight' when trying to fuck them is stupid. if you need to clarify you are closeted, say closeted.
you stupid fuck, no one gives a shit. stop obsessing about trying to put a label on it. That's part of the problem with you people we don't fucking care and don't need to hear it
some people seem to, and i understand roleplay, but that isn't exactly whats happening here.
when you got guys that say 'i hooke up with straight only' you're just being a retard.
But there are some guys who actually have marriages/relationships with women, and they're not always sexless shams either. They actually do live a whole life as a straight person, and just fuck dudes and/or suck dick in secret. So while they might technically be bisexual based on the sum of their actions, their entire social, professional, and public life is "straight."
no, you're thinking of trannys. they have to go to great lenghts to be sucked by 'straight guys'.
straight guys makes terrible lovers and are petrified of their assholes unless its a boring plastic cock.
'straight' isn't a social, professional, or public thing. its a sexual orientation. are you one of those people who think you can sexually identify as a lesbian even though you're a dude?
most of the married men i hook up with just say 'bi/discreete' not that they're straight. mostly becuase by the time you're married you're not naive or retarded enough to say stupid shit like 'HURRR DURRR STRAIGHT CUZ MANLY'
im closeted myself, but that doesnt mean i tell gay guys im straight. i just say im closeted.
Don't kid yourself, man. Maybe you're lucky enough to live in a very liberal, accepting community. And that's a good thing. But in most parts of the world "straight" is absolutely an important social, professional, and public thing.
You're absolutely correct on a theoretical level. But practically speaking, I have no trouble understanding why people might want or need to "lie" that way
>because of social and professional reasons it makes sense taht gay guys would tell the person they are fucking in the ass that they are straight just becuase they are manly
you're really missing the point here. whats worst is the discreete crowd isn't even the big issue cuz most just say 'discreet'. its guys who openly fuck other guys but refer to themselves as straight.
maybe ur just trying to comfort yourself, i dont know, but its elitist faggotry at its worst.
I think you're missing the point, honestly. It has nothing to do with "manliness." Most people who identify as straight, even though they have gay sex, are not retards who think that gays can only be feminine. They identify as straight because anything else would ruin their family, their friendships, their professional life, etc etc etc. It's not about "manly straights" and "girly gays," it's about real-life consequences for anything other than total discretion