Long story short I stole my boyfriends journal because in it he talks about cheating on me. I havnt broken up with him yet but I ended up burning the journal and he keeps asking me for it. He keeps saying he misses it and had precious memory's in there.
Can I get in any sort of trouble for stealing it because if he finds out I took it I feel like he might try to do something?
The fuck is wrong with you?
I mean, reading your SO's journal I kinda get; it's not a nice thing to do but I respect giving in to temptation, it's good that you found out he's a cheater.
But instead of dumping him you set his shit on fire and pretended like nothing happened?
I set it on fire RIGHT after I read what I needed too! Along with all our pictures and notes he gave me. And I threw out everything that couldn't burn. I was in a blind rage. I don't think I've even been so mad. I was practically shaking.
You have to come clean.
You already are planning on breaking up with him, he's going to want to know why.
If you tell him you know he cheated, he's gonna figure out you took his journal.
Just tell him you read his journal, found out he cheated, and you got really angry and threw it away...for the love of god just don't say you set that shit on fire, that'll just make you look fucking crazy.
Setting someones memories on fire it literally one of the worst things a human can do. Far worse than cheating.
You know when someones house burns down the thing people mourn losing are photos.
I cant bring myself to even think about giving advice to such a shitty person. You exemplify why women are seen as children to men.
having sex with other in a monogamous committed relationships is not okay. go right ahead and fuck everything that moves if you're single or your partner is okay with it but betraying you partner's trust is not okay.
Of course you dont feel bad about it. You dont understand what its like losing things precious to you like that. I didnt give a shit about old photos until I realized that I couldnt remember the faces of loved ones and they were gone forever. But youre just hateful so you could never sympathize with another.
If you had to pick between being cheated on and forgetting what you loved ones looked like forever with no way of recovery which would you pick.
Yes and No.
In terms of monetary value, it's just a fuckin book, he won't get much back out of it.
But honestly, guys are not huge pussies. If I cheated on my gf and he wrecked my journal I would think I had it coming. Reporting her to the police is something a woman would do...no offense.
Look, I'm being honest.
Is it cool that women get away with crime because men are too proud? Not really, but it's just how it is.
Not saying to say what's right/wrong, just saying what's probably going to go down.
What the fuck is wrong with you lol? Are you unable to grasp that this guy isn't you and his journal wasn't about precious memories of loved ones. It was a narcissistic notebook on cheating with some notes from OP.
Burning the journal was a stupid move,but you'll hardly get in legal trouble for it. It only has sentimental value, it's not worth large amounts of cash.
He'll be pissed, but he also cheated on you, so it's not like he'll have the high ground when you tell him what happened to the journal.
She already said she only read that part. Not the whole thing. It could contain precious memories of loved ones in it.
Honestly if someone took someone irretrievable, and irreplaceable such as that itd be one of the few things short of being hitler that could get me to stop seeing a person as human and Id probably direct all my hostility and spite at that person.
I could only hope someone cheated on me before doing something so low.
It may be childish but no less childish than betraying someone's trust and journaling about it. Get over yourself. You're not as mature as you think. Only a child wouldn't understand that treating others with respect and kindness is the most important thing.
>Can I get in any sort of trouble for stealing it
Technically you've committed invasion of privacy, petty theft, and arson. It is extremely unlikely that your boyfriend would be able to find anyone willing to prosecute you for it, given the extremely low value of the goods involved (unless his diary was made out of platinum or something), but you are technically guilty.
You should have just left him.
Guess which will happen first, youll get over it or he'll get his journal and memories back.
You dont understand the weight or your actions. All you see is your hurt feelings. Nothing more than a child.
You think that because you cant understand the weight of what you did.
>all I did was burn your precious memories. You didnt need them. Memories arent that big a deal. Who needs to remember things about those they care about.
HE IS NOT YOU. How is that so hard to understand? It wasn't family pictures and shit.
And I'm not OP. It's hilarious though how you think the weight of his actions have no effect on the situation.
Tell me what a person needs to do to have their precious memories burned. Tell me what action is so bad that they dont deserve to remember the face of their loved ones.
His actions are minuscule in comparison. Hers are childish and outright evil.
People talk to you and provide arguments while you keep ranting about faces of loved ones and precious memories. It's actually really funny if you're serious and think you're some mature soul lel.
Oh sure but when the boyfriend goes through his girlfriend's diary and finds out she was cheating anons scream to beat the whore. If she says it's his fault for looking into her privacy then twice as hard. Fuck you faggots.
Its not projecting because you literally burned someones memories. Just a child who doesnt want to be blamed.
Id wish for you to lose the things you love that are irreplaceable and your memory of them but its cruel to do so on a child.
You pretend to care so deeply about this person you've never even met, but the scope of your empathy seems to be limited only to men. You give no consideration to the fact that she had to find out her boyfriend was cheating on her by reading it in a stupid diary, how that might feel, how a person might do something impulsive in a moment of anger.
Instead, you just give half-cocked sermons about how evil and thoughtless she was, as if anyone asked for or cares to hear your judgment. Hoping for what, exactly? Your insights would shatter her worldview, reduce her to tears, begging for your forgiveness and praising your wisdom? You don't give a shit about this guy's burnt diary, you're just a misogynist with a power fetish and an inflated sense of self-importance, and it's obvious to everyone except you.
Nobody wants to hear it. boo hoo nigga. shut the fuck up already
That has nothing to do with the fact that she burned someones memories which is evil by itself. But she doesnt even know how important they were. Its something youd expect of a child. Not seeing the consequences of her actions.
No, the scope of my empathy is on the person who lost something valuable to them that is irreplaceable and irretrievable. You cant recover from such an evil such as that. Her feelings will heal.
Do you think anyone would give a shit how she felt if she killed his family. Your actions have weight and shes too childish to see that.
Im not even going to respond to your insults because they are baseless and honestly too pathetic to consider.
Its forgivable and forgettable and she didnt take any more damage than her feelings being hurt. She doesnt have any permanent lasting effects from it. When someone pushes you down you stand up. You dont cut off their legs and say that they are evil.
>few years of your life
Yeah it was just my mothers face, no big deal. A photo is just one moment in time. You dont need to remember that right.
I hope you lose a record of the things youve done in your life. So that when you grow old and start to forget you can look back on your life and think you did nothing.
No were talking about you now. After stealing his memories the only justice would be for you to truly feel the pain for your actions. You wont seem to understand just how evil you are until you try to back on your life and cant. And have no record of your past. Until you feel the despair of dying while thinking youve accomplished nothing in your life. You dont understand the importance of memories so this is the only justice.
It's clear to all you're projecting. So you have a precious pic of a family member you'd sperg out over if it got destroyed because you can't remember their face on your own. The fucking tragedy. That has nothing to do with this.
Why do you automatically assume the journal was a carbon copy of yours? That it was full of pictures of dead family members and so important the bf will never get over the loss of it? In all likability it was a simple diary he used to write down his thoughts like most people do. Losing that sucks ass but it is not a tragedy or the end of the fucking world.
We get it, you'd kill yourself if someone burned your diary, doesn't make it the action of Satan. If that shit is so important to you, scan it and put it on an external hard-rive grandpa.
It's not forgivable, or forgettable, this will effect future relationships for me. I still have a pit in my stomach from seeing what a read. Also I havnt been the one awnsering you I was in class
Op you did the right thing all these people are dumb as hell he cheated on you he deserves it. Its not even that bad just some pics he can grow the fuck up. If my gf cheated on me she would get wayy worse than that.
This is what you get for trusting crazy women, guys. Don't let them see your soft side, they'll think you're cheating.
You didn't even bring it up to him, you didn't ask for what he meant, or an appology, nor any reasonable non violent measure, you went full crazy so you deserve the title.
Why would I need an explanation? I can read what he did.. He dosnt have a soft side. Nothing was written softly. 90% of it was him checking out chicks and how Girls approve of him sexually
>show a woman your vulnerable side
>she sees a way to burn you later if shes mad
Remember never to treat a woman as a human. Give her no way of ever hurting you. This is what they do when given the chance.
She's not erased them from his brain FFS. It's not nice to burn someone's diary, but if you're using it to describe how you're cheating on their partner and they see it, it's understandable they'll fly off the handle.
What I don't get is why she hasn't broken up with him yet. That's just weird.
Honestly, OP, I'm cheering for you. I'd never actively advise someone to do anything that destructive and vindictive, but I'm not exactly going to weep bitter tears for the man who was cheating on you.
If you want somebody to treat you with any kind of decency, don't lie to them and betray them. You have no obligations towards him anymore.
Anyway, you're not going to be charged with shit. You destroyed a couple of pictures and scraps of paper. They had sentimental value but almost no real value. If he called the cops, "my girlfriend threw out my diary," they'd maybe ask him, "has she destroyed or threatened any of your other property?" and when he said no they'd tell him to call back when he had a real emergency.
Can you idiots please stop posting that picture, like it makes you clever or something?
It's seriously posted in like a dozen threads a day. Yes, we know some of them are probably bait. They're also entertaining. I don't come here to prove how fucking hard I am to trick, I come here to read interesting threads and occasionally pitch in. If I waste five minutes of my time having an entertaining conversation with somebody who ends up having made it all up, no skin off my nose.
I've probably wasted more time staring at that stupid fish picture than responding to bait threads.
Why are you on such a hyperbole? Are you pretending to be retarded? If he kept a diary of his whoring it would be interesting for historians. I have no idea why you're comparing it to some random faggot's journal.
You think anyone gave a shit about Anne frank and her diary at the time.
You seem to think that only people you deem valuable deserve their memory. You are quite honestly a horrible person.
>mad he was cheating
Lol were you two married? Relationships and all the shit like it were a modern woman-invented thing to control dudes.
God, the age of the tumblrina is upon us.
>tfw you don't realize monogamy is a sham
>tfw you don't realize monogamy was invented by women
>not realizing men weren't made to have 1 mate, seeing as how we can pump out tons of kids
Guys cheat because guys have to cheat. It's in our nature to want to screw as many women as we can.
You don't deserve a man.
You don't respect him enough to not look through his journal you fucking child? Really? I bet you're the kind of bitch to go through his phone too? Grow up. Adults don't look through eachother's shit like that. If you don't trust them or feel they are hiding something, break up. If you trust and believe them, then take what they have to say as law and don't go snooping. You'll never be happy when you're going around LOOKING for things to get mad about. You put yourself in the situation.
I hope he decks you for burning his memories like that
I know I would if a girl burnt my journal
Luckily for me, I keep a virtual journal instead that's encrypted so no one can ever read it but me and I have several backups of it.
He'll learn though. Theres no honor in dealing with women. If might hit her in a fit of rage but he'll learn not to trust women in general.
You dont give women access to your important things.
Lol what? His actions are miniscule? He cheated on her you dumbass. He could have had unprotected sex and given her an STD. He betrayed trust and wrote it down to remember his shit actions as trophies.
Once someone cheats, withholds that info and has sex with their partner-they should be prepared for whatever their partner has in store for them if they find out.
>someone cheats on me
>better burn down their family
If he actually did more damage than just hurt her feelings like giving her an std then sure, thered be an argument. But he didnt.
>Burning his shit hurts his feelings too, nothing more
Im crying here. Its too funny.
>killing his dog hurts his feelings too, nothing more
>burning his house hurts his feelings too, nothing more
>emptying his bank account hurts his feelings too, nothing more
>cutting his tires hurts his feelings too, nothing more
I wonder what goes through a crazy persons mind.
>I cant see how its the exact same scenarios, just a different possession because Im crazy.
My only question is how did he not see she was crazy ahead of time. People like this usually show sings elsewhere. You cant really suppress crazy.
It was his trip through Europe apparently. Not just a cheating journal. Apparently he thought it was important enough to make into a tangible thing.
If you dont see how setting fire to someones possession is outright crazy it could only be because you are crazy.
>can I get in any sort of trouble for stealing and burning things
How is this thread not bait.
>I have no sympathy for cheaters
>thinks burning possessions is as crazy as cheating or equivalent in any way
I get it. This how crazy people think.
Its the exact thoughts a crazy person has when doing crazy shit. But it normally shows just somewhere first.
>killing his dog
>burning his house
>emptying his bank account
>cutting his tires
He had it coming. This is why crazy people are genuinely scary. They have no concept of equivalency and if you think burning shit is an appropriate retaliation for being cheated on you cant be trusted and should be locked up for everyones safety. But theres no way he couldnt have known she was crazy. He might not even get mad because he knew how crazy she was.
If the genders had been reversed I'm pretty sure everyone in this thread would be rooting for OP for burning a cheating slut's diary, but because a guy cheated (and he can't really help that anyway, know what I'm sayin, bros?) his "precious memories" of cheating should be preserved.
This thread is hilarious.
You've never been cheated on have you. I have loved women for years but dropped them and never look back when they cheated. I would rather forget everything than feel that again.
Why are you asking such a ridiculous question, what is wrong with you? I didn't hate them to the point of killing them, I just didn't want to have anything to do with them any more.
Holy shit crazy person walking. This is honestly how those kids that shoot up schools think. The bullys actions have consequences. They dont think twice about how crazy they are or how theres no sense of equivalent exchange.
Why are you trying to equivocate burning a diary, which was apparently used to catalog sexual encounters with people other than your girlfriend with murdering someone by burning them alive?
What is wrong with your brain?
Im just putting your statements in perspective.
You see they think the same thing you do. Because youre both crazy.
You think destruction of property is a consequence of having your feelings hurt.
They think school shootings are a consequence of having your feelings hurt.
Neither should really be allowed to roam freely.
You're retarded, you're comparing burning a book to burning humans. Do you dig a grave for books youve read too? For your information, I burn everything a woman has ever given me if she cheats on me. I have no contact with her and every gift, card, article of clothing, and photographs I burn. It helps me move on and watching the flames helps me move past a mental wall that comes up when you've been cheated on. But you wouldn't know anything about that would you? You sound like you've never had a real relationship. You value the secrets you keep more than the honesty shared between a couple.
Nothings wrong with burning your own stuff. But if you sympathize with OP why not go further and burn stuff thats not yours? Why not burn them?
>You value the secrets you keep more than the honesty shared between a couple.
This projecting is cute.
If this is putting things in perspective for you I don't want to know what the inside of your head is like. You are mad because she destroyed something that was valuable to him, thus hurting his feelings. Yet her feelings which were hurt as much if not more don't come into the equation.
School shooters are deranged people, not someone who has been betrayed by their partner and lashes out in an unsuitable way.
You mistake sympathy for empathy. The difference between our perspectives is that I can imagine how OP feels right now, where as you simply cannot fathom how she feels or consider it unimportant. Your avoidance of the whether or not you've ever even been in a relationship paired with you hyperbolizing mentality of skewed justice only proves your naivety further. Why are you even here, to berate everyone who disagrees with you? Almost everyone in the tread has called your views insane and yet you think you're still in the right here. We're here on this board to give advice, not name call and lecture like some puritan minister. If you don't like what OP does then stay the fuck out of her business,she won't listen to you anyway.
Anyway this idiot derailed your thread OP so here's what you should do: dump him, don't burn it to prove your better than he is, cut all contact and never look him up again.
Im sure people who are shot feelings are hurt as well.
>School shooters are deranged people
No they are just like her in principle. They are butthurt from having their feelings hurt and seek to do more harm that just hurt the victims feelings. Just like she did. Burning someones possessions does more than just hurt their feelings just like shooting someone does more than just hurt their feelings.
You honestly have to be crazy to think that destroying someones property only hurts their feelings.
Other people have already said it. If its something that can be easily replaced then you didnt really do any damage. Its just an inconvenience. Maybe she photocopied the journal and plan on giving him it afterwards so it only amounts to his feelings being hurt. Itd be equal that way.
>and seek to do more harm that just hurt the victims feelings
What harm did OP do other than (potentially) hurting his feelings? You think someone's deepest trust is easily replaced? It's honestly hilarious that you think your rants are somehow mature.
Everyone knows what its like to be betrayed. Not everyone is crazy enough to set stuff on fire because of it.
You clearly think setting things others possessions of fire is appropriate. So again, why dont you go further.
I feel like you must truly have a warped perception of the value of physical possessions if you equate them to human life.No matter how many times you say it, no one else is going to ever agree with you on that because the craziest thing anyone has said in this entire thread is that burning a diary that details how your boyfriend cheated on you is morally the same as shooting up a school.
That is sincerely disturbed thinking, anon.
She burned a material tangible possession like a crazy person. Like any other possession.
You think burning peoples possession is something any sane person would think is okay.
It does more than hurt their feelings, you destroyed a physical tangible thing.
>You think someone's deepest trust is easily replaced
She'll grow old and live a happily life after giving it to someone else. Now if he made it so that she literally could not ever love and trust again thatd be an interesting thought experiment. The damage would be greater than just hurting her feelings.
Everyone except you apparently. And no I don't think that burning property is an appropriate reaction, but I believe it is more forgivable than cheating on someone. Precious memories? Too bad. You know where memories stay? In his head. And he'll remember most of all to not keep written records like an idiot of his cheating escapades. Honestly both OP and her bf were idiots going around each others back and neither of them telling the other the truth. But goddamn it man for you to equate the emotional value of losing a journal to the emotional value of losing a relationship you've spent years working at then you my friend are fucked in the head, and you'll realize that one day if by some miracle you ever have a proper relationship.
Never said it was okay lol. Thats just you projecting. I just said shooting up a school because you feelings are hurt is far crazier and a much bigger problem. And you should probably not be allowed to interact with people.
Hurting someones feelings isnt a crime. Burning and stealing are.
Listen, when people are in hurtful or extreme situation they do crazy shit out of hurt. I'm sorry if that is such an alien concept that you can't possibly empathize.
Lol do you even hear yourself? He'll grow old too and find other whores to fuck and take other trips. Meanwhile still remembering the things he has done even without his stupid journal. You must be autistic is this is so hard for you to grasp.
>And no I don't think that burning property is an appropriate reaction, but I believe it is more forgivable than cheating on someone.
>Committing crimes is much more forgivable than cheating on someone
Again, why didnt you go further? Im sure before a court you crime will be dismissed in light of how hurt your feelings are.
He actually does seem like he has legitimate autism from the way he thinks. He doesn't appear capable of empathizing with the idea that being cheated on hurts very very deeply. He places a higher value on tangible objects, regardless of what they are, than human emotions and even life because he seems to have a hard time understanding emotions in the first place.
Getting bullied and being betrayed by a close romantic partner are not the same. Neither are burning a diary and shooting someone. How bored do you have to be to keep this retarded troll persona up?
Shed lose. No question about it.
Hitler thought the holocaust was perfectly reasonable and a sane way of handling the jew problem. Im so glad people were able to see that the legality of killing people outweighed his morals.
You cant wage war because your feelings are hurt.
.... wow. no. yeah. its personal property and if you havent ever read an article, there can be grave penalties for something seemingly cheap but holding artistic or sentimental value.
you knew beforehand to so it wasn't really a crime of passion you just straight up planned your revenge.
>Getting bullied and being betrayed by a close romantic partner are not the same.
Being bullied does far more trauma to people than being cheated on. But a crazy person couldnt understand that.
>Being bullied does far more trauma to people than being cheated on
Have you been diagnosed? Yeah it messes with people's self-esteem but have you ever actually experienced heartbreak?
>Hitler thought the holocaust was perfectly reasonable and a sane way of handling the jew problem. Im so glad people were able to see that the legality of killing people outweighed his morals.
>You cant wage war because your feelings are hurt.
First of all, you missing the point of what he said and second of all, this makes no sense.
Here's what the data generally indicate:
Physical trauma actually heals faster than emotional trauma of any type. People who are bullied psychologically tend to have lasting effects of bullying, including serious PTSD as adults if they are bullied as children.
Similarly, emotional trauma from a betrayal of a romantic partner can cause depression and long term psychological pain.
Getting punched in the face generally heals a hell of a lot faster than ANY type of emotional trauma.
Wow OP, I thought the dumbest thing I've ever read was your image but your post blew it out of the water.
>Burning it instead of either confronting him and trying to deal with it or straight up dumping him
I don't get why he trusted you with the diary. I bet he didn't even write about cheating at all.
It was probably just recorded encounters with girls on his travels and you went full psycho bitch.
Well I'm in a more rational state today, and it sucks that I burnt some of his memories but when I was doing that I was just trying to get rid of everything in my room that reminded me of him. It wasn't like I wanted to burn all his possessions. I was just trying to burn the memories try to find the quickest way to start forgetting him. I don't want anything in my room that's going to remind me of him
I'm still really sad today, every time im think about it I tear up, even in public. I love him but I know I have to break up with him.
I've been ignoiring his calls and texts for the last 48hrs and I'm going to tell him what I did to his journal and I'm going to break up with him then block him on everything. Not that he'll care since he clearly is more interested in fucking other girls rather then me.
Also I've never done anything like this before so I am scared about how he will react. I feel like there could be the possibility of him hitting me or I don't know hopefully he just yells. But I was thinking maybe I'd just do it in public or in a car so he's less likely to do something
>when the crazy starts wearing off and you realize what youve done
Its too late now.
He needed to face the consequences of cheating and get his diary burned. Now its your turn to face the consequences of you actions and get your face turned into a bloody mess.
He didnt hide his diary, you dont get to hide your face.
Do you think he wont find you?
Guys can claim crime of passion just like girls and get away with it. As long as he hasnt hit you before or has a history of abuse. If he makes up some sob story about whats in the diary and how important it was to him.
He you dont want to get hit the only safe way is to do it through text and bar your house up.
UPDATE: well I repeated to him what I read in his journal about him cheating on me, at first he acted mad but then shortly after dissolved into tears. Said he fucked up and ruined the best thing ever then I started crying, took about 20 minutes to talk and cry. And then as I got out of the door I let him know that I was indeed breaking up with him and to never contact me again. apparently he didn't hear that part because he's called me 5 times in the last 10 minutes and texted me "anon pick up your phone please". Thanks to those who gave me advice. Now I just have to work on
Coming from someone who's been in your position, I learned that you should not drink even if you think it'll give you relief right now. Even taking a nice bath and then a sleeping pill in bed would be a better idea because you can sleep this off and not do or say anything you regret in the next 6 hours.. Like taking him back..
Also look up support forums. Just by browsing and reading other people's posts until you fall asleep. They will provide the reassurance and backbone you need to stay confident in your decision. I don't know how it works but trust me it does.
Here's one I found and used: http://www.survivinginfidelity.com/forums.asp
Good luck, and even looking around on google what your feeling and your situation can help too.
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