>>16659879 Most women do not respond well to this. It comes off as desperate, and sometimes creepy.
>>16659879 I think only under very rare circumstances would this work...like if there are obvious signs of mutual attraction (her smiling at you) and if you've previously acknowledged each other. Otherwise, no.
>>16659870 Wait for her to stop and the approach her. Now if you want to do it like me, what I did was work on my smile. So when I see a girl I like, I cheese and her and she smiles back and I take that as an initiative to talk to her. That being said you have to look pleasing to the eye in order for it to work and if shes actually trying to get somewhere without detours youre going to be bothersome. So you gotta look for the signs. How is she walking. If shes walking fast, leaning forwards, let it go. Shes on a mission. If shes casually strolling along a street window shopping then thats ideal. Dialogue that I use is normally along the lines of >hey enjoying the [park/scenery/weather] >do you come here often >[vague hint at an inquiry about whats shes doing there] >give my name then ask for hers >depending on whats shes doing ask if I can accompany her or if shes willing to accompany me somewhere extremely close by so that I can talk to her a bit more Then at some point you ask to exchange information. If you do the vague inquiry thing wrong though youll come off as a stalker. You gotta let her think that shes the one choosing to tell you and that shes free to tell as much or as little as she wants. Its also a good way to gauge her interest since you can tell how much shes willing to give you a chance by how much she says.
>>16659892 >asking for name before giving yours Please disregard this >>16659915 You have to remember, only attractive girls have the confidence to appreciate being called attractive. Most girls arent attractive so shes right about it being inconvenient to the majority there.
just be yourself: The most important part is to know if I woman is receptive, or not and how to screen unreceptive women from that bunch. The more work demanding thing is to know which of these women who are unreceptive are actually just neutral. You got to confront them by being yourself, get them out of their shell.
The most important thing about this is being totally self-aware of what you want.
>>16659926 No its because of how courting has developed throughout the ages. Its a mans job to approach women and try and gain their favor while its a womans just to select amongst multiple suitors. Its how courting has and is done in pretty much every society. Women have a clear advantage in courting because they pick between multiple suitors and are pretty much guaranteed a partner of their choice. Men try to court multiple women because they are going to get rejected a lot. Women dont know how much rejection a guy has to go through.
>>16659928 I abstracted from my own experiences. I take that you think its recited from a book as a good thing. One of the things Im good at is isolating variables so my way of explaining hopefully conveys that.
>>16659915 Because anyone who's not desperate for creepy guys' compliments is a landwhale? I'm 5'5" and 115 lbs. Get over yourself. Not everyone is as desperate for meaningless attention from desperate horny guys.
>>16659901because our balls swell up and we need someone to dump our obscenely large loads into, it's tough enough finding a girl who's a candidate, you also have to court her, convince her you're good enough, and make all the first moves. So whenever we score, it's a win.
>>16659999 Tell me how you'd feel if you had unattractive Tumblr feminazis putting on an act to try to get in your pants every time you went out. It's transparent and fucking annoying. If it were about simply complimenting people, you'd be doing it to men as well.
>>16660021 >your handsome >thanks >walk away It actually happens a lot. I take it as a good thing that girls find me attractive. I use to handle it poorly like you when I didnt find myself attractive questioning why this person is bothering me. But Ive long grown out of that. I like to think that confidence boost is why women approach me. >If it were about simply complimenting people, you'd be doing it to men as well. No. Guys dont notice other guys. I cant compliment something I never look at. Women are aesthetically pleasing to men, whereas other men are pretty much invisible to other men. Its very straightforward.
>>16659901 Smart men are much pickier when it comes to actually dating someone or having kids. Maybe pickier than women, who in my experience start looking for anybody with a real career after about age 27
>>16659912 What you don't understand is that we don't give a fuck about inconveniencing the 80% who will give a fake number or act all assmad. We give a fuck about the 20% who are flattered and want to get pumped full of our semen.
We're not "hollering" and catcalling from the streetcorners, so get the fuck over yourself.
>>16659928 Dating and connecting with women isn't some mystical magical process. Women like the idea that it is, because it doesn't flatter their ego to believe that their most of their desires for a mate are simple enough to be broken down into a trifold pamphlet.
>>16660021 >men are either 10/10 gorgeous studs or ugly basement creeps >implying neckbeards aren't the most timid, retiring species >implying my women friends aren't more creeped out by someone who just watches them and is too timid to approach
And actually I DO talk to men on the street if they do something worth noticing--not to try to fuck them, but to create a little joviality and camaraderie in my neighborhood.
>>16660058 I have as well and I compliment guys when I see fit. But in general men are invisible to other men appearance wise. >you're a handsome dude Potentially very gay. Being handsome is not an objective thing. You can assess a guys model worthiness based on symmetry and fitness level but you actually say hes handsome is to say that you find him attractive. Why are you attracted to other men. That being said you could you handsome in a very platonic way with fairly loose rules such as the same as that for a model. Depends on how it comes across and how you say it I guess.
>>16660092 Hate to break it to you but men think women are aesthetically pleasing more than just with their penis. If you werent so insecure youd understand that. Hell honestly if it were just based on penis guys would only chase after girls with giant breast and hips.
>>16660081 Personally I don't use compliments. Just an ice breaker. "nice day, huh?" "I like your scarf"
Obviously "do you have the time" is a little obsolete.
I learned this from a guy in his fifties who regularly draws in women in the middle of their jog or morning errands just to stop and chat with him. The results speak for themselves.
>>16660088 I dunno what to tell you man. Politely approaching someone who doesn't appear to be in a rush anywhere has been part of dating for as long as we've had cities big enough to have "strangers". I'm pretty conservative in my approach, and wait for the right glance or smile to walk up to her.
And compared to holla back culture, or guys waggling their tongues between their fingers from the seat of a backhoe, I'd say it's about as old fashioned and sweet as dating can get. I'm sorry if you get hit on by guys who can't take a hint. I had a girlfriend who had to put up with "urban youth" trying to holler at her all the time.
It's annoying to be approached when I have shit to do. If I'm walking or working, the irritation of being disrupted is going to a lot stronger than the pleasure of being complimented. Compliments are a penny a dozen, they stopped being special when my tits came in.
In my opinion, your best bet is to talk to girls who are hanging around one spot, or who seem bored.
>>16660092 >women don't like attention >women don't like sex with men they're attracted to >women don't admire boldness and confidence >women are perfect little flowers who only date and fuck after a lengthy courtship by a sweet, quiet gentleman who has been vetted by her father, grandfather, and the village elders
I didn't know 4chan tunneled into the bizarro dimension.
My daygame is much better than my nightgame. Thing is, it heavily depends on where you are that makes things a lot different. In the Netherlands approaching women on the street would be weird to say the least. It's just a cultural thing, since every time I'm in the US it's perfectly fine to do so. Read what >16659892 says, except for the mood part. Just be yourself. What I'd add to that is to make up some scenarios beforehand. For example, when I'm in the supermarket there are often people looking at the different foods available waiting to pick something. If there aren't too many people around I like to pick something out of the shelf, hand it to her and say 'This is what we're eating tonight'. Out of this you will *always* get a reaction. For me this is something that always works as I feel comfortable talking in that situation. Another tip is to let the woman do some of the work. This is absolutely necessary! Many women are used to having men talk to them and take charge. Tell your part, and wait for an awkward silence to fall. Make sure you make good eye contact throughout, she'll now feel compelled to talk. If she doesn't I tend to give her a look that says 'are you too awkward to have a conversation with someone?'.
>>16660133 >women don't like being bothered by men on the street they have no connection to >women can get attention and sex from guys they know through friends, family or from work >your options are either to bother random women on the street for the chance to wet your dick or 1800s courtship >autism.jpg
What some people don't understand is that regular rules of politeness still apply. If someone is hustling to catch a bus, carrying a bunch of groceries, or otherwise involved in what they're doing, you don't bother them.
Compliments are pretty shit anyways--a more neutral icebreaker is less embarrassing for both parties if she's not interested.
>>16660221 Because in context of the discussion, gay guys dont count. Obviously men arent invisible to gay men. But in general men are invisible to other men and thats why you dont see them running around complimenting each others appearance.
>>16660199 Eh, it can be. I mean the most extreme example is "hey, nice tits". Literally speaking, it's a compliment, but it should be obvious why it's actually a mean and shitty thing to say to a woman.
For my own part, compliments feel too obvious. If she returns your glance or a smile, and you lead in with some neutral ice breaker, it's much easier for her to brush you off without resorting to "being mean".
From what I know, many women are less afraid of the approach, and more afraid of being seen as a bitch (or god forbid, interacting with a real nutjob who will shout at her or hurt her). I know someone who gave the finger to some really obnoxious guy and he snapped her fucking finger.
>>16660221 That's sort of my test for what's over the line >would I be annoyed if a gay guy approached me this way?
There have been occasions where some fag came on strong and made gross innuendos and I wanted to smash his face in... most of the time I can't really tell if they're gay/interested in me--which is a great sweet spot to aim for when picking up women.
I had to ask a woman a question at a bar the other night while I was waiting for a date, and I could tell she was pretty disappointed that I was just asking her a question and not trying to strike up a convo.
>>16660225 Because it's a free fucking country. Why do you assume all men are all pussy-seeking robots who can't read body language and take a hint when a girl isn't interested?
>>16660246 I have been approached by guys in public. It's annoying and transparent. It's incredibly retarded of you to keep jumping to conclusions about who the person on the other side of the screen is, when you've never met them. Because everyone who disagrees with you is a fat ugly virgin, amirite?
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